Anyone else considering offering a motherload package for AD? (1 Viewer)

[ILoveMyLions]

I rarely overpay for players in FF, but I'm becoming convinced that AD is in for a 3-4 year of total dominance (ala Emmitt, LT, Faulk, etc) All of his tools, on a run first team with a great Oline, plays on turf to utilize his speed, etc. the only negative I see is injury risk. I'm considering putting together a huge package for the guy. I'll make him an offer he can't refuse. After all, FF is about studs and I have the ammo to get hum so I'm putting my pieces together to make an offer. Anyone else considering this in your dynasty leagues? For those of you who have AD, what would it take to get him?

 

[sib]

I rarely overpay for players in FF, but I'm becoming convinced that AD is in for a 3-4 year of total dominance (ala Emmitt, LT, Faulk, etc) All of his tools, on a run first team with a great Oline, plays on turf to utilize his speed, etc. the only negative I see is injury risk. I'm considering putting together a huge package for the guy. I'll make him an offer he can't refuse. After all, FF is about studs and I have the ammo to get hum so I'm putting my pieces together to make an offer. Anyone else considering this in your dynasty leagues? For those of you who have AD, what would it take to get him?

I offered Steve Smith & Brian Westbrook in my PPR dynasty league for "All Day" and I got turned down right away. The owner said that if the offer was Steve Smith, Brian Westbrook, and Tom Brady then he would consider it seriously. I said he can keep "All Day" if that is the case....

 

[bradf35]

I got him during about week 10 last year for Reggie Bush and what turned out to be the 1st and 3rd pick in this years rookie draft. I overpaid a little, but I'm not too excited about McFadden.

 

[Sweet Love]

I just traded for him in a Keep 3 .5 PPR and sent S-Jax 3rd and 7th round picks for ADP 4th and 8th round picks. Honestly, I would rather have had S-Jax, but had to move him due to keeper length restrictions.

I like ADP, but I would not cripple my team to get him.

 

[benm3218]

I just traded for him in a Keep 3 .5 PPR and sent S-Jax 3rd and 7th round picks for ADP 4th and 8th round picks. Honestly, I would rather have had S-Jax, but had to move him due to keeper length restrictions.I like ADP, but I would not cripple my team to get him.

I would.If you do not have a team that will compete for the playoffs then go get him and build around himin dynasty. He is WAY better fantasy than SJax or Gore or any other top tier RB.

 

[FUBAR]

I just traded for him in a Keep 3 .5 PPR and sent S-Jax 3rd and 7th round picks for ADP 4th and 8th round picks. Honestly, I would rather have had S-Jax, but had to move him due to keeper length restrictions.

I like ADP, but I would not cripple my team to get him.

You got a heckuva deal, but you're right. This is a team game.Ask yourself, did the owner of LT win each of the previous 3 years? Did Faulk's owner win every year? If not, is AD that much better? I don't think he is (and I've been a huge fan since his freshman year).

I don't mind overpaying for a difference maker, as I can generally find replacement players, but I wouldn't be completely dismantle a championship caliber team for him. I would EASILY trade a few 1sts for him though.

 

[FUBAR]

I just traded for him in a Keep 3 .5 PPR and sent S-Jax 3rd and 7th round picks for ADP 4th and 8th round picks. Honestly, I would rather have had S-Jax, but had to move him due to keeper length restrictions.

I like ADP, but I would not cripple my team to get him.

I would.If you do not have a team that will compete for the playoffs then go get him and build around himin dynasty. He is WAY better fantasy than SJax or Gore or any other top tier RB.

That wouldn't be crippling your team then.

 

[maccabees]

I have ADP in one of my dynasty leagues and he is darn near untouchable.I don't need to rebuild so why trade him.

If I needed to rebuild I would trade him for a boat load of players or trade for him and build around him.

 

[gianmarco]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right.

The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.

The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

 

[lynx4ben]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right. The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

I'm lower on ADP than most but I traded him for Braylon, Ronnie Brown, and Stewart.

 

[FUBAR]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right.

The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.

The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

I think your last paragraph nails most people's opinions. While I don't think AD will have the longevity of LT, he should put up some monster years. He's more likely to have 4 of the best years ever produced by a RB than 7 years like LT. Aside from SJax, who else is close? LT/Westbrook? Maybe for a contender, but the age is a key. Addai? Maybe as 1/2 of the package, meaning you'd have to include someone else of comparable value, so Gore + Addai? Not if the AD owner has a legit RB2 already - besides, would anyone actually give that?

The Westbrook, Smith, and Brady package, while apparently excessive, is about what I'd want for him where I have him. In leagues where I don't have him, and I have another QB I like and depth at WR, I might actually do that - if not in contention this year. Problem is, if I have those 3, I'm probably in contention.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

If you think you are overpaying for him don't. If you think what you are giving up for him is worth it then make the move, f what everyone else thinks.

 

[NorrisB]

A trade that just went down in my league

.5 ppr for rbs 1 ppr for wrs, start 2 rb 3 wr and 1 flex usually a wr, so 4 wrs total.

randy moss, willis mcgahee for berrian and AD

 

[gianmarco]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right.

The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.

The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

I think your last paragraph nails most people's opinions. While I don't think AD will have the longevity of LT, he should put up some monster years. He's more likely to have 4 of the best years ever produced by a RB than 7 years like LT. Aside from SJax, who else is close? LT/Westbrook? Maybe for a contender, but the age is a key. Addai? Maybe as 1/2 of the package, meaning you'd have to include someone else of comparable value, so Gore + Addai? Not if the AD owner has a legit RB2 already - besides, would anyone actually give that?

The Westbrook, Smith, and Brady package, while apparently excessive, is about what I'd want for him where I have him. In leagues where I don't have him, and I have another QB I like and depth at WR, I might actually do that - if not in contention this year. Problem is, if I have those 3, I'm probably in contention.

Exactly on all points. A team would have to be absolutely loaded to pay the correct amount and still win out.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right. The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

I agree 100%.

 

[Raider Nation]

FF is about studs and I have the ammo to get hum so I'm putting my pieces together to make an offer.

I'd be curious to hear what "pieces" you're planning on offering.I have AD locked up for the next 5 years, and although I'll always listen, it's extremely unlikely he's going anywhere.

 

[KellysHeroes]

just wait until he gets banged and then send a offer, hes too expensive right now.

 

[Sinrj]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right.

The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.

The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

Yeah I don't get that part. Shouldn't players have the same value whether you own him or not?

 

[treat88]

Yeah I don't get that part. Shouldn't players have the same value whether you own him or not?

Less experienced FF players always tend to overvalue the guys on their team.Sometimes to the extent of passing on trades that would represent great value to them.It's emotion driven, not logic.I have been just as guilty of this as anyone else.

 

[twitch]

Most of those other great stud RBs have atleast had one other great offensive player on the team for support. Not just great support players, HOF calibler talent. Priest Holmes had Gonzalez. Faulk had Holt, Bruce and a 2-time MVP QB. Emmitt had Aikman, Novacek and Irvin. Tomlinson has had Gates. Who does Peterson have to relieve him of some of that burden? Bernard Berrian? Tarvaris Jackson at QB? He's got nothing there around him but a solid Oline. But as far as relief thru the passing game to move the chains, and help get him down inside the 10 on a consistent basis, the help is just not there. I know he's looked brilliant in a handful of games, but dont sell the farm for this kid. He's a great young player, and he'll have some spectacular games, but his offense is a solo act right now, and it wont take long for teams' to completely sell out in their defensive strategies in stopping him. Is he anywhere near that Faulk, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes level of fantasy dominance? Peterson as an individual may be ready. But his team certainly isnt.

 

[FUBAR]

Most of those other great stud RBs have atleast had one other great offensive player on the team for support. Not just great support players, HOF calibler talent. Priest Holmes had Gonzalez. Faulk had Holt, Bruce and a 2-time MVP QB. Emmitt had Aikman, Novacek and Irvin. Tomlinson has had Gates. Who does Peterson have to relieve him of some of that burden? Bernard Berrian? Tarvaris Jackson at QB? He's got nothing there around him but a solid Oline. But as far as relief thru the passing game to move the chains, and help get him down inside the 10 on a consistent basis, the help is just not there. I know he's looked brilliant in a handful of games, but dont sell the farm for this kid. He's a great young player, and he'll have some spectacular games, but his offense is a solo act right now, and it wont take long for teams' to completely sell out in their defensive strategies in stopping him. Is he anywhere near that Faulk, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes level of fantasy dominance? Peterson as an individual may be ready. But his team certainly isnt.

IBTSRL (In Before The Sydney Rice Love) - FWIW, I like the guy, but he probably won't reach this level.

 

[gianmarco]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right.

The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.

The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

Yeah I don't get that part. Shouldn't players have the same value whether you own him or not?

He does have the same value. That's the point. Essentially, it would take something along the lines of Westbrook, Smith, and Brady for me to trade him away. However, if I owned those 3 on a team, it's unlikely I'd be able to afford that price, thus making him untradeable in my eyes. If I had a stacked team where I could afford to give up that much (very rare), I would do it. For most, however, the price it would take to acquire AD would cripple most teams and force them to rebuild around him for a couple of years. Many won't do that as being wrong would then kill your team. Selling him for less than that same value would be selling him too cheap and you'd stand a good chance of giving up the next LT/Faulk/Emmitt.I had discussions with one team about giving up AD/Bowe/McMichael for MJD/Grant/Edwards/Scheffler. I think that's a VERY reasonable price for AD and so did he but he simply couldn't afford to pay it.

 

[David Yudkin]

Most of those other great stud RBs have atleast had one other great offensive player on the team for support. Not just great support players, HOF calibler talent. Priest Holmes had Gonzalez. Faulk had Holt, Bruce and a 2-time MVP QB. Emmitt had Aikman, Novacek and Irvin. Tomlinson has had Gates. Who does Peterson have to relieve him of some of that burden? Bernard Berrian? Tarvaris Jackson at QB? He's got nothing there around him but a solid Oline. But as far as relief thru the passing game to move the chains, and help get him down inside the 10 on a consistent basis, the help is just not there. I know he's looked brilliant in a handful of games, but dont sell the farm for this kid. He's a great young player, and he'll have some spectacular games, but his offense is a solo act right now, and it wont take long for teams' to completely sell out in their defensive strategies in stopping him. Is he anywhere near that Faulk, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes level of fantasy dominance? Peterson as an individual may be ready. But his team certainly isnt.

That would explain why guys like Payton, Sanders, Dickerson, Alexander, and OJ never amounted to much.

 

[gianmarco]

Most of those other great stud RBs have atleast had one other great offensive player on the team for support. Not just great support players, HOF calibler talent. Priest Holmes had Gonzalez. Faulk had Holt, Bruce and a 2-time MVP QB. Emmitt had Aikman, Novacek and Irvin. Tomlinson has had Gates. Who does Peterson have to relieve him of some of that burden? Bernard Berrian? Tarvaris Jackson at QB? He's got nothing there around him but a solid Oline. But as far as relief thru the passing game to move the chains, and help get him down inside the 10 on a consistent basis, the help is just not there. I know he's looked brilliant in a handful of games, but dont sell the farm for this kid. He's a great young player, and he'll have some spectacular games, but his offense is a solo act right now, and it wont take long for teams' to completely sell out in their defensive strategies in stopping him. Is he anywhere near that Faulk, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes level of fantasy dominance? Peterson as an individual may be ready. But his team certainly isnt.

LT has had Gates for only 4 of his 7 years. In fact, his team AND O-line were atrocious in those first few years. As far as AP's team, it's all speculation, but they are definitely moving in the right direction. I think some people are going to miss the boat on some fantasy producers on that team.Again, it's all speculation at this point, but there's those exceptional players that come around very rarely that you want to try and get your hands on. You may be wrong, but it's much worse to be right and miss the opportunity, IMO. At least that's my recipe for championships even though I know there's more than 1 way to skin a cat.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Most of those other great stud RBs have atleast had one other great offensive player on the team for support. Not just great support players, HOF calibler talent. Priest Holmes had Gonzalez. Faulk had Holt, Bruce and a 2-time MVP QB. Emmitt had Aikman, Novacek and Irvin. Tomlinson has had Gates. Who does Peterson have to relieve him of some of that burden? Bernard Berrian? Tarvaris Jackson at QB? He's got nothing there around him but a solid Oline. But as far as relief thru the passing game to move the chains, and help get him down inside the 10 on a consistent basis, the help is just not there. I know he's looked brilliant in a handful of games, but dont sell the farm for this kid. He's a great young player, and he'll have some spectacular games, but his offense is a solo act right now, and it wont take long for teams' to completely sell out in their defensive strategies in stopping him. Is he anywhere near that Faulk, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes level of fantasy dominance? Peterson as an individual may be ready. But his team certainly isnt.

ADP has a pretty bad supporting cast, uless you are a believer in Tavaris Jackson, but is it that much worse than LT-Rivers-Gates or Green-Gonzo-Kennison or Huard-Gonzo-Kennison?1983 Rams had Ferragamo-pile of retreads and Dickerson put up 1800 and 18 in 1984 it was Jeff Kemp and some retreads.

Eric Dickerson had a number years with monster numbers and little help (1988 1600 and 14 - Chandler and Bill Brooks (who?))

Ricky Williams had 1850 and 16 with Fiedler - McMichael (39-485-4) - Chamber (52-734-3)

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Just before the trading deadline last season I offered

LT, McGahee and Holt for Adrian Peterson.

I was turned down. I ended up winning the Championship

because of the deal I didn't make.

I was shocked that he didn't accept the offer.

.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I rarely overpay for players in FF, but I'm becoming convinced that AD is in for a 3-4 year of total dominance (ala Emmitt, LT, Faulk, etc) All of his tools, on a run first team with a great Oline, plays on turf to utilize his speed, etc. the only negative I see is injury risk. I'm considering putting together a huge package for the guy. I'll make him an offer he can't refuse. After all, FF is about studs and I have the ammo to get hum so I'm putting my pieces together to make an offer. Anyone else considering this in your dynasty leagues? For those of you who have AD, what would it take to get him?

I often overpay to get the players I target, and I would absolutely do so in Adrian Peterson's case.You're right that fantasy football is about studs. Depth is incredibly easy to find . . . difference-makers not so much.

 

[Jon_Moore]

I was offered:

Peterson/Chestor Taylor/Steve Smith (CAR)/Ben Roethlesberger

for

Peyton Manning/Jamal Lewis/Larry Fitzgerald/AJ Hawk

 

[sholditch]

I think AD is, for the most part, untradeable in most leagues. Reason is, as an owner in a few leagues, my asking price is more than I'd be willing to pay if I didn't own him if that makes sense. The response to the owner about Westy, Smith, and Brady is just about right. The only guy that will make a deal reasonable is using SJax and even then a small bump isn't usually worth it for the AD owner unless he prefers SJax and a larger bump isn't worth it for the SJax owner as the difference between the 2 probably isn't that large.The way I try to explain it to people that want to trade for AD is imagine what it would cost to get LT back in 2001 if you knew what he would do the last 7 yrs. When you consider that, even Westy, Smith, and Brady is barely enough. Now, I know some of you say there's no way to tell that AD is going to do what LT has done for even 1 yr let alone that many. Well, I believe that he's capable of it and I'd rather be wrong and keep him than be right and trade him away. I know not everyone shares the same opinion about him or his trade value, but that's how I feel about it and I'm quite comfortable with it as an AD owner in a few leagues.

I own him in a 2QB dynasty, and after seeing him play in the NFL, it would literally take Peyton or Brady + another essentially 1st round player to get him. Heaven and Earth basically.

 

[twitch]

Most of those other great stud RBs have atleast had one other great offensive player on the team for support. Not just great support players, HOF calibler talent. Priest Holmes had Gonzalez. Faulk had Holt, Bruce and a 2-time MVP QB. Emmitt had Aikman, Novacek and Irvin. Tomlinson has had Gates. Who does Peterson have to relieve him of some of that burden? Bernard Berrian? Tarvaris Jackson at QB? He's got nothing there around him but a solid Oline. But as far as relief thru the passing game to move the chains, and help get him down inside the 10 on a consistent basis, the help is just not there. I know he's looked brilliant in a handful of games, but dont sell the farm for this kid. He's a great young player, and he'll have some spectacular games, but his offense is a solo act right now, and it wont take long for teams' to completely sell out in their defensive strategies in stopping him. Is he anywhere near that Faulk, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes level of fantasy dominance? Peterson as an individual may be ready. But his team certainly isnt.

That would explain why guys like Payton, Sanders, Dickerson, Alexander, and OJ never amounted to much.

As always, all the answers all the time.

 

[jurb26]

Peterson's value will come down. No need in severely overpaying now.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Jim Morrison was right: people are strange. I just don't get the contrarian view on a player like Peterson. You should have been able to tell the first time you ever saw him run that he was a once-in-a-generation talent, so why are people still trying to go against the grain here?

Remember, growing up, the guy in your neighborhood who always hated Michael Jordan . . . just to be different? And the guy was always a little off on the intelligence scale. His arguments against Jordan made little sense and sounded like something he heard from a strange uncle?

The skeptic is wise, but the contrarian is just annoying. Can't these guys ever just sit on the deck and have a beer? The wheel's still turning, but the hampster's gone. . . .

 

[David Yudkin]

Most of those other great stud RBs have atleast had one other great offensive player on the team for support. Not just great support players, HOF calibler talent. Priest Holmes had Gonzalez. Faulk had Holt, Bruce and a 2-time MVP QB. Emmitt had Aikman, Novacek and Irvin. Tomlinson has had Gates. Who does Peterson have to relieve him of some of that burden? Bernard Berrian? Tarvaris Jackson at QB? He's got nothing there around him but a solid Oline. But as far as relief thru the passing game to move the chains, and help get him down inside the 10 on a consistent basis, the help is just not there. I know he's looked brilliant in a handful of games, but dont sell the farm for this kid. He's a great young player, and he'll have some spectacular games, but his offense is a solo act right now, and it wont take long for teams' to completely sell out in their defensive strategies in stopping him. Is he anywhere near that Faulk, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes level of fantasy dominance? Peterson as an individual may be ready. But his team certainly isnt.

That would explain why guys like Payton, Sanders, Dickerson, Alexander, and OJ never amounted to much.

As always, all the answers all the time.

There are certainly instances either way on this one, so I think it's a push on whether having a HOF player supporting you helps or hurts. THe argument goes both ways . . . if there isn't another option, then you get all the love (see, Tiki, Gore, Westbrook, etc. in recent years). And if there is another option, then you potentially fewer defenders your way.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I offered Steve Smith & Brian Westbrook in my PPR dynasty league for "All Day" and I got turned down right away.

Good. That's an absolutely horrible offer. If you sent me that proposal, I wouldn't bother with a counter. In a re-draft, it's a great offer, but in dynasty? Brutal. Westbrook isn't a spring chicken....

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Jim Morrison was right: people are strange. I just don't get the contrarian view on a player like Peterson. You should have been able to tell the first time you ever saw him run that he was a once-in-a-generation talent, so why are people still trying to go against the grain here?

Exactly. The only argument against Peterson, from day 1, was his ability to stay healthy. He's at least a top-5 talent.....in the entire NFL. Period.

 

[bcr8f]

In a no RB required league I traded the top pick for picks 2.05. 3.05, 1.12, 2.212, 3.12 rookies.

That became-

Steve Smith

Chad Johnson(subsequently traded again)

Keith Rivers

Kenny Phillips

Jerome Simpson

 

[sib]

I offered Steve Smith & Brian Westbrook in my PPR dynasty league for "All Day" and I got turned down right away.

Good. That's an absolutely horrible offer. If you sent me that proposal, I wouldn't bother with a counter. In a re-draft, it's a great offer, but in dynasty? Brutal. Westbrook isn't a spring chicken....

Horrible offer?? Westbrook is a monster in PPR leagues. Steve Smith has also been a monster in PPR leagues for the past couple of years when Delhomme has been healthy. I can understand that if you feel that the offer isn't up to par for Peterson, but I'm willing to bet that most folks would have Westbrook and Steve Smith in the top 7 or 8 at their respective positions in a dynasty league.

 

[Pipes]

I rarely overpay for players in FF, but I'm becoming convinced that AD is in for a 3-4 year of total dominance (ala Emmitt, LT, Faulk, etc) All of his tools, on a run first team with a great Oline, plays on turf to utilize his speed, etc. the only negative I see is injury risk. I'm considering putting together a huge package for the guy. I'll make him an offer he can't refuse. After all, FF is about studs and I have the ammo to get hum so I'm putting my pieces together to make an offer. Anyone else considering this in your dynasty leagues? For those of you who have AD, what would it take to get him?

I often overpay to get the players I target, and I would absolutely do so in Adrian Peterson's case.You're right that fantasy football is about studs. Depth is incredibly easy to find . . . difference-makers not so much.

 

[Pipes]

I offered Steve Smith & Brian Westbrook in my PPR dynasty league for "All Day" and I got turned down right away.

Good. That's an absolutely horrible offer. If you sent me that proposal, I wouldn't bother with a counter. In a re-draft, it's a great offer, but in dynasty? Brutal. Westbrook isn't a spring chicken....

Horrible offer?? Westbrook is a monster in PPR leagues. Steve Smith has also been a monster in PPR leagues for the past couple of years when Delhomme has been healthy. I can understand that if you feel that the offer isn't up to par for Peterson, but I'm willing to bet that most folks would have Westbrook and Steve Smith in the top 7 or 8 at their respective positions in a dynasty league.

While I wouldn't say it's a horrible offer there's absolutely no way I'd make this trade if I had Peterson. Westbrook is a great player but he's be ridden hard the last few years and at his size and with him approaching 30 I can't see how he maintains his numbers over the last couple of years. Smith is a top WR as well but there are alot of question marks surrounding his QB.No way should the #1 RB in a dynasty format (and arguably in a redraft) who's in his early 20's should be traded for a top 5-10 RB & top 5-10 WR who have most likely peaked in their respective careers. Peterson hasn't come close to peaking.

 

[Flash]

AD? Adrian Dantley?

I thought he retired a long time ago from the NBA?

 

[Manster]

NO. he's overvalued right now. you will likely have to give up more than he's worth to get him.

i like LT as the hands down #1 RB in FF, and SJAX as the #2, with Westy and AP fighting for #3.

obviously the values change from redraft to dynasty, and PPR, etc...

if i had AP in a dynasty, i'd be looking to deal him to someone like you, who will possibly give too much.

 

[Manster]

Just before the trading deadline last season I offeredLT, McGahee and Holt for Adrian Peterson.I was turned down. I ended up winning the Championshipbecause of the deal I didn't make.I was shocked that he didn't accept the offer..

i'm shocked you made that offer.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Remember, growing up, the guy in your neighborhood who always hated Michael Jordan . . . just to be different? And the guy was always a little off on the intelligence scale. His arguments against Jordan made little sense and sounded like something he heard from a strange uncle?

Lets claim down, ADP is not the Jordan of NFL RBs.

 

[Dancing Bear]

Walk away from the ledge and let someone else pay the price.

It's a long season ... he has a horrible surrounding cast.

I think that he is an incredibly exciting guy to watch, but from a Fantasy perspective, you are going to get more than your share of :

14 carries for 3 yards ...

9 carries for 27 yards ...

11 carries for 36 yards ...

For certain he will break a few games too, but you are going to lose a lot more games when he lays an egg than when he gives you 40+ ...

 

[Ned]

Walk away from the ledge and let someone else pay the price.It's a long season ... he has a horrible surrounding cast.I think that he is an incredibly exciting guy to watch, but from a Fantasy perspective, you are going to get more than your share of :14 carries for 3 yards ...9 carries for 27 yards ...11 carries for 36 yards ...For certain he will break a few games too, but you are going to lose a lot more games when he lays an egg than when he gives you 40+ ...

just remember, the kid was a rookie last year. i'm just sayin'...

 

[Moe Green]

ADP's a great player, but it's going to be funny to see him fail to live up people's unrealistic expectations.

 

[jurb26]

Just before the trading deadline last season I offeredLT, McGahee and Holt for Adrian Peterson.I was turned down. I ended up winning the Championshipbecause of the deal I didn't make.I was shocked that he didn't accept the offer..

CO is an absolute fool for turning that down. He more than likely would have won the title last year with that trade and still ended up with McFadden. Unbelievable, really.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

FF is about studs and I have the ammo to get hum so I'm putting my pieces together to make an offer.

I'd be curious to hear what "pieces" you're planning on offering.I have AD locked up for the next 5 years, and although I'll always listen, it's extremely unlikely he's going anywhere.

I was going to offer T. Edwards, McGahee, Bowe and the guy's first next year (which I got in a previous trade). Keep in mind this is a start 2 QB league so they have more value. He has only 1 QB and needs help at RB and WR.

 

[offdee]

Just before the trading deadline last season I offeredLT, McGahee and Holt for Adrian Peterson.I was turned down. I ended up winning the Championshipbecause of the deal I didn't make.I was shocked that he didn't accept the offer..

CO is an absolute fool for turning that down. He more than likely would have won the title last year with that trade and still ended up with McFadden. Unbelievable, really.

For anybody wondering, I'm the "fool" who turned this deal down. And I don't regret and still wouldn't accept the offer today. I had a plan when we started the league 2 years ago to build my team for the long haul and even if acquiring those 3 guys would've helped me last year it would've gone off course for me down the road. With the way my team is setup presently I just can't think of a deal I'd accept to move AD.

 

[Getinthemix]

FF is about studs and I have the ammo to get hum so I'm putting my pieces together to make an offer.

I'd be curious to hear what "pieces" you're planning on offering.I have AD locked up for the next 5 years, and although I'll always listen, it's extremely unlikely he's going anywhere.

I was going to offer T. Edwards, McGahee, Bowe and the guy's first next year (which I got in a previous trade). Keep in mind this is a start 2 QB league so they have more value. He has only 1 QB and needs help at RB and WR.

Would you accept that if you owned AD?