ProBowler88
Footballguy
I can't see Ward being very effective with Dixon under center. Thoughts?
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Anyone gonna be starting Hines Ward the first 4 weeks? (1 Viewer)
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cubbie5150
Footballguy
For week 1 (in a start 3 WR league), I am seriously considering benching him & rolling the dice w/ TBB Mike Williams. Ward is "safe", but I see pretty much no upside w/ anyone other than Ben under center. If it doesn't work out for me week 1, Ward goes back into my lineup; at least that's my thought process right now.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Agreed, And Dixon doesn't seem like a bad QB option either. He's lead several scoring drives during the preseason. Sounds like the Steelers are going to give him a chance to earn more starts as well. I read somewhere that Ben Roth isn't guaranteed the starting job when he returns. It would be hard for me to believe Ben would be handed the clip board when eligible to play but there must be something to Dixon since the statement has been made.Edit to add: I'm starting Ward this week as my WR3, and I'm very confident he'll produce better than WR3 #'s
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't have a choice, really. I got Hines as my WR2 (I'm a bit weak there). Hines is generally about the 20th WR off the board, so I'd imagine most that drafted him (in 3 WR leagues) are going to need to use him.
Hines had, somewhat arguably, his 2 best seasons before Roethlisberger was drafted. That probably means absolutely nothing, as it was nearly a decade ago, and we have no idea if Dixon can be as good as the legend Tommy Maddox.
I'm not any more worried about Hines than I am about most of my other players.
Hines had, somewhat arguably, his 2 best seasons before Roethlisberger was drafted. That probably means absolutely nothing, as it was nearly a decade ago, and we have no idea if Dixon can be as good as the legend Tommy Maddox.
I'm not any more worried about Hines than I am about most of my other players.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Not to derail the thread but Tomlin never said that Roethlisberger was not guaranteed the starting job when he returns.Back on topic: Ward has succeeded with the likes of Kordell Stewart, Mike Tomczak and Kent Graham throwing to him. I wouldn't necessarily say that he is a good play but I wouldn't automatically bench him either.
Wu-banger
Footballguy
Slash 2.0 will be fine starting in Big Bens place.... Ward has good hands , knows how to get open, and will be a comfort blanket for Dixon.
Ideally it would be to wait a week or two to see what Pitt does offensivly but if you dont have better options Ward should be solid at least.
Ideally it would be to wait a week or two to see what Pitt does offensivly but if you dont have better options Ward should be solid at least.
baconisgood
Footballguy
Bad QBs rely on their best targets more than good qbs. As long as he isn't Jamarcus/Quinn bad Ward should be fine.
In PPR leagues Ward is gold.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I'm starting him over MSW & Knox this week
Steeler
Footballguy
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ben pass out at Quaker Steak and Lube last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Wow! that does sound serious!
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I predict 7-84-1 for Hines Ward.
I'm doing the same thing and in another leagues I'm starting Mason instead of Wallace which probably means Dixon will throw for 350 and 4 TD's while my guys get shut out.
SYMPHONY X
Footballguy
Not sure what to do with Hines weeks 1-4. I did draft him to be my WR3, but I also like the upside of some of my late round flyer WR picks, at least for this week. Many of us are facing the same decision..plug the solid vet into our lineup who had 95 catches last year, but has Dixon throwing the rock now, or roll the dice with upside?
Just read this post gazette article that has me leaning towards Hines: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10252/1086153-66.stm
Just read this post gazette article that has me leaning towards Hines: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10252/1086153-66.stm
Steeler
Footballguy
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com makes an interesting point that Roethlisberger is in a weird spot, if Dennis Dixon is ultra successful he might not get his job back, so he actually need Dixon to fail to take back control of the team.There must be something to it, if Tomlin won't make a stance... Which leads me to beliewve, and from what I've seen I have liked, Dixon can do the job...
Meaning Ward is probably still a safe bet to get his #'s regardless..
Steeler
Footballguy
There is a three page thread about this non-story so I'm not going to rehash it here.Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com makes an interesting point that Roethlisberger is in a weird spot, if Dennis Dixon is ultra successful he might not get his job back, so he actually need Dixon to fail to take back control of the team.There must be something to it, if Tomlin won't make a stance... Which leads me to beliewve, and from what I've seen I have liked, Dixon can do the job...
Meaning Ward is probably still a safe bet to get his #'s regardless..
Megalomaniac
Footballguy
IMO the real reason coaches say these type of things is to make sure the suspended player doesn't get to comfortable and do nothing but party, eat devil dogs and make it rain every night. It also allows the current player to THINK he has a shot at keeping the spot. Everybody wins.......unitl 4 weeks from now.Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com makes an interesting point that Roethlisberger is in a weird spot, if Dennis Dixon is ultra successful he might not get his job back, so he actually need Dixon to fail to take back control of the team.There must be something to it, if Tomlin won't make a stance... Which leads me to beliewve, and from what I've seen I have liked, Dixon can do the job...
Meaning Ward is probably still a safe bet to get his #'s regardless..
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
The point is, that Dixon has potential and Ward should be fine... I don't care whether or not Ben gets his job back... If you would have read through my entire first post you'd understand that I have a hard time believing he wouldn't getting his job back.But where there is smoke there's fire. And the Steelers have already made moves this season based on character value of players so... we will see... not impossible to imagine, especially if Dixon lights things up for 4 games.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Most of the good that you've seen from Dixon has come against second & third teamers. His experience with/against first teamers is not enough to draw any conclusions but what little exists is not very good.In his only start last season Dixon played okay in the first half against the Ravens but was lousy in the second half and threw the pick in OT that lost the game. Against Denver's first team in week 3 of the preseason he was downright awful.
Don't get me wrong, I hope he plays lights out and the Steelers kick butt this week but lets temper our enthusiasm by remembering that he is the 3rd string quarterback.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
You should know better than I, I haven't had the opportunity to see him face first string. I did however see his good pre-season games and with all this buzz, I'm expecting him to play well... Still hard for me to believe Ward wouldn't get his touches. He's the most dependable player on the team. If Dixon needs a completion, he's certainly going to Ward 1st read, where as Ben may be more likely to spread the ball..
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I agree that Ward will get his looks no matter who is the QB. And I hope you are right about Dixon.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Ward is the WR1 in our PPB (point per block) league.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I honestly don't know enough about him. I've only read about him and watched him play 2 pre-season games. But I was impressed with the games I watched... He's certainly better than the 2nd and 3rd string competition.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
What do you think MSW can do against Denver?
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
2 for 50 and 1 TD
ProBowler88
Footballguy
hopefully he can perform better than his 3rd preseason game against Denver's first untit
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Guess time will tell. There is a spark there though, maybe he can catch fire..
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I'm considering Welker over Ward.. That's a tough one, because Welker could just be trotted out there as a decoy.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
two_dollars
Footballguy
going with Floyd over Ward as my wr3.
I need 1 game to see what Dixon has.
I need 1 game to see what Dixon has.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Leftwich could return as early as Week 2. So just take it one week at a time.
I'm lowering expectations for all Pittsburgh offensive players, but only slightly.
I'm lowering expectations for all Pittsburgh offensive players, but only slightly.
Dixon winner of QB derby
Voodoo Rage
Footballguy
The possession veteran is always going to be the new guy's best friend and safety net. I wouldn't shy away from Ward.
Usually it's the Te and rb checkdowns that most young Qb rely on and they seem to go more Wr the more they play.
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
yepSame
Voodoo Rage
Footballguy
I'd have to check some actual data on it but I'm thinking of guys like Donald Driver or Derrick Mason who both sustained solid production when new QB's took over the team's offense.
