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Anyone have a Tahoe, Suburban, or Yukon? (1 Viewer)

I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
You really like mini-vans.
Think about the children Binky.
The minivan guys are almost as bad as the Apple guys.
DO YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN SIR?
 
I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
Small **** vs. No balls, you decide...

 
I guess I will give the serious response.

We have a 2004 Tahoe z71--bought it in 2008 when the gas prices were high, so we got an incredible deal on it. Absolutely loaded vehicle with every bell and whistle you can think of. The original sticker price (we have the original dealer sticker that was on it) was close to 60k and I think we picked it up for 21k. Split row 2nd seats which I cannot tell you how much you need this with kids so they cannot "touch" one another and those seats fold down. Third row seating that can be removed as well so you have space to move stuff. DVD entertainment system throughout.

We still have only 85,000 miles on it as it is not our daily driver, but a really, really nice vehicle. 4x4--Forest metallic green, sweet rims and tires. We have only had to replace a battery, but we have to change out tires here in a couple months which will run close to $900.

One of the best vehicles I have owned. Drive something like this and you would never ever think about a mini-van.

 
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Wait, didn't you buy a Range Rover?
Me?!

I guess I will give the serious response.

We have a 2004 Tahoe z71--bought it in 2008 when the gas prices were high, so we got an incredible deal on it. Absolutely loaded vehicle with every bell and whistle you can think of. The original sticker price (we have the original dealer sticker that was on it) was close to 60k and I think we picked it up for 21k. Split row 2nd seats which I cannot tell you how much you need this with kids so they cannot "touch" one another and those seats fold down. Third row seating that can be removed as well so you have space to move stuff. DVD entertainment system throughout.

We still have only 85,000 miles on it as it is not our daily river, but a really, really nice vehicle. 4x4--Forest metallic green, sweet rims and tires. We have only had to replace a battery, but we have to change out tires here in a couple months which will run close to $900.

One of the best vehicles I have owned. Drive something like this and you would never ever think about a mini-van.
Oh COME ON.

 
I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
You really like mini-vans.
Think about the children Binky.
The minivan guys are almost as bad as the Apple guys.
have a honda odyssey and a suburban. suburban smokes the odyssey, but i do like both vehicles. Vans are easier for women to drive around in.

 
I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
You really like mini-vans.
Think about the children Binky.
The minivan guys are almost as bad as the Apple guys.
DO YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN SIR?
Yeah, enough that I'd rather put them in a gigantic gas guzzling 4x4 monster truck capable of climbing up and over the traffic jam pancaking everything in its wake, than a Campbell's Soup commercial tin can with sliding ziplock doors.

 
Minivan is great for younger kids. Those remote power sliding doors are amazing.

We will sell the Sienna and get a full sized SUV in a few years once the 4 year old can open and close the heavy doors herself.

Oat, just try out a minivan at the dealership. I get the stigma and all that (we had it too) but our friends who own SUVs with multiple little kids are always jealous when they see how easy it is to load the kids in ours. I hit the remote door opener when we are 15 feet or so from the car in the parking lot. Kids hop in, press a button inside the car to close it themselves. Bam.
We've never really had this problem. Our boys have been able to open the door and close the door once they got it since they were five. So that leaves my younger daughter, whose car seat is directly behind the drivers seat. So from an efficiency standpoint, we load her right before the driver pops into their seat. So I would guess their outdoor exposure to be about 30 seconds at most.

 
I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
You really like mini-vans.
Think about the children Binky.
The minivan guys are almost as bad as the Apple guys.
DO YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN SIR?
Yeah, enough that I'd rather put them in a gigantic gas guzzling 4x4 monster truck capable of climbing up and over the traffic jam pancaking everything in its wake, than a Campbell's Soup commercial tin can with sliding ziplock doors.
plus it runs on poor people

 
Wait, didn't you buy a Range Rover?
Me?!

I guess I will give the serious response.

We have a 2004 Tahoe z71--bought it in 2008 when the gas prices were high, so we got an incredible deal on it. Absolutely loaded vehicle with every bell and whistle you can think of. The original sticker price (we have the original dealer sticker that was on it) was close to 60k and I think we picked it up for 21k. Split row 2nd seats which I cannot tell you how much you need this with kids so they cannot "touch" one another and those seats fold down. Third row seating that can be removed as well so you have space to move stuff. DVD entertainment system throughout.

We still have only 85,000 miles on it as it is not our daily river, but a really, really nice vehicle. 4x4--Forest metallic green, sweet rims and tires. We have only had to replace a battery, but we have to change out tires here in a couple months which will run close to $900.

One of the best vehicles I have owned. Drive something like this and you would never ever think about a mini-van.
Oh COME ON.
Doesn't matter to me if you believe me or not as far as what I paid, but the bottom line is it is a great vehicle.

 
Minivan is great for younger kids. Those remote power sliding doors are amazing.

We will sell the Sienna and get a full sized SUV in a few years once the 4 year old can open and close the heavy doors herself.

Oat, just try out a minivan at the dealership. I get the stigma and all that (we had it too) but our friends who own SUVs with multiple little kids are always jealous when they see how easy it is to load the kids in ours. I hit the remote door opener when we are 15 feet or so from the car in the parking lot. Kids hop in, press a button inside the car to close it themselves. Bam.
We'll check it out. I tried to talk the Mrs. into looking at the Odyssey. She's open to pretty much anything but that. Maybe if I trick her and we walk into a Dodge dealership, or some other dealership with a Minivan....

:scared:
I'd try the Odyssey or the Toyota van. I have always thought that the Chrysler family of minivans seemed smaller. We have a 'Touring' model of the Odyssey (2005 -150k!) and it is slightly larger than the standard model. Sort of like the XLT on the Yukon/Tahoe. The current years have these versions also.

The standard versions of the Honda and the Toyota have a chair that is placed in between the two captain's chairs in the middle row that allows for 8 person seating. A nice feature for carpooling when kids get older and out of car seats. My touring didn't come with it (bought it used) it came with a removable storage compartment, that I have never placed in the vehicle, like having the aisle in between the seats.
If you guys are just messing with me, I have to hand it to you, this is great groupshtick.
Read your post as you WOULD try to get your wife to look at minivans. Need sarcasm font.

I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
You really like mini-vans.
Think about the children Binky.
The minivan guys are almost as bad as the Apple guys.
What if we're both! ;)

 
Minivan is great for younger kids. Those remote power sliding doors are amazing.

We will sell the Sienna and get a full sized SUV in a few years once the 4 year old can open and close the heavy doors herself.

Oat, just try out a minivan at the dealership. I get the stigma and all that (we had it too) but our friends who own SUVs with multiple little kids are always jealous when they see how easy it is to load the kids in ours. I hit the remote door opener when we are 15 feet or so from the car in the parking lot. Kids hop in, press a button inside the car to close it themselves. Bam.
We'll check it out. I tried to talk the Mrs. into looking at the Odyssey. She's open to pretty much anything but that. Maybe if I trick her and we walk into a Dodge dealership, or some other dealership with a Minivan....

:scared:
I'd try the Odyssey or the Toyota van. I have always thought that the Chrysler family of minivans seemed smaller. We have a 'Touring' model of the Odyssey (2005 -150k!) and it is slightly larger than the standard model. Sort of like the XLT on the Yukon/Tahoe. The current years have these versions also.

The standard versions of the Honda and the Toyota have a chair that is placed in between the two captain's chairs in the middle row that allows for 8 person seating. A nice feature for carpooling when kids get older and out of car seats. My touring didn't come with it (bought it used) it came with a removable storage compartment, that I have never placed in the vehicle, like having the aisle in between the seats.
If you guys are just messing with me, I have to hand it to you, this is great groupshtick.
Read your post as you WOULD try to get your wife to look at minivans. Need sarcasm font.

I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
You really like mini-vans.
Think about the children Binky.
The minivan guys are almost as bad as the Apple guys.
What if we're both! ;)
Well then, that would make you both consistent and psychotic.

 
RacistEx owned a super up fancy Tahoe. 2010 I believe. It was nice, spacious, and had cool gadgets. Guzzled gas though.

One of the partners at my firm just traded in her sweet BMW X3 for a Suburban. She hates herself for it but says it is incredibly spacious and drives a lot like the Tahoe. Just another huge gas guzzler though.

 
This "gas guzzler" thing is silly. Gas is so incredibly cheap right now, I bet it's cheaper than an electric car these days. Our stupid X5 used to cost us 80 bucks for a premium fillup here in the NYC suburbs. I got a fillup down in South Jersey this past week for half that cost. Ridiculous.

Gas = cheap. Monster trucks = win.

 
Your family still lives in NY, right? Wouldn't a huge SUV be hard to navigate in NY?

FWIW, the Conquest Knight is the biggest SUV made. After that you have the likes of Ford Expedition, Hummber, Chevy Tahoe, Suburban, Escalade, Honda Fit, etc.

 
Your family still lives in NY, right? Wouldn't a huge SUV be hard to navigate in NY?

FWIW, the Conquest Knight is the biggest SUV made. After that you have the likes of Ford Expedition, Hummber, Chevy Tahoe, Suburban, Escalade, Honda Fit, etc.
I live in the suburbs, I'm not driving in Manhattan, so a large SUV shouldn't pose a problem. I've noticed tons of our neighbors all of whom have big families have these things.

 
I see. Mrs Otis makes the decisions. One of those marriages.

Good luck with your ridiculous giant look-at-me **** compensation mobile. Feel bad for the kids shivering in the cold while daddy has to open each door for them.
You really like mini-vans.
Think about the children Binky.
The minivan guys are almost as bad as the Apple guys.
DO YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN SIRI?
FYP

 
Went and checked these out today. Awesome trucks.

Guy at GMC tried to talk us into the Acadia even though it felt cramped. I later realized it was because he had Acadia's to move, and there is a two-month wait list for the Yukon. The Yukon he had there was really nice.

Then went and checked out Chevrolet. Saw some Suburbans and Tahoes. He had a sweet fully loaded Tahoe with all the bells and whistles and 22" wheels available with some $4k discount to Costco customers, promotion ending tomorrow. Made a pretty compelling case for us to go join Costco and then pull the trigger. The lease on our BMW isn't up until the end of March, so we'd be eating a bunch of money in that respect, but still we'd come out in the green with this promotion. That said, I don't want to make a decision under pressure so we may wait.

We probably should at least read up some more on the Expedition and maybe the Durango, but I was really impressed with both of these cars--really nice design, felt substantial and high quality, really like the interior space, and get a chuckle of little Mrs. O climbing up onto the running boards to get in. I don't think there is another car in the $60k MSRP range in this size class, so I'm suspecting we'll end up with one of these.

We decided we don't need the Suburban or XL; as much as a little extra trunk room is nice, we're still only currently a family of four and that feels like overkill. If we end up with kid 3 and then kid 4 suddenly starts to sprout, we can always go and trade in the Tahoe/Yukon for a Suburban then if we feel we need to.

Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$

 
What's the typical depreciation curve on these things like?

I have a 2009ish Expedition that we might be trading in.

 
Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$
About 40% of our field sales vehicles are 2015 Expeditions right now. When we order a sales car, we basically just check every box. These started getting delivered late summer, they will probably get turned in late spring. We have about 120 people based in Maweh NJ, but I am not sure the timing would work out with your lease turn in. I would guess they go to Auction with 15k miles between 15-20k less than MSRP.

 
Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$
Yeah, like you're going to wait a few months for that to happen.

 
Nugget said:
Otis said:
Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$
About 40% of our field sales vehicles are 2015 Expeditions right now. When we order a sales car, we basically just check every box. These started getting delivered late summer, they will probably get turned in late spring. We have about 120 people based in Maweh NJ, but I am not sure the timing would work out with your lease turn in. I would guess they go to Auction with 15k miles between 15-20k less than MSRP.
Any way to get out ahead of this?

The guy today had a couple of 2015 "fleet cars," but he said those are never ordered with premium setups. None of these had a few of the essential options we want: captain's chairs in the 2nd row; keyless entry and keyless pushbutton start; forward and rear parking sensors and backup camera; leather.

If we can find a 2015 with that setup and a couple scratches and 10-15k miles on it, I'd gladly take it and save 20 grand.

If we aren't talking about too much time in between, my wife could make due for a month or two in my old beater LR3. It stinks like cigarettes and Slash guitar solos, and has a tendency to stall on occasion if you don't know what you're doing with it, but it could work if it's gonna save us loot.

 
By the way, moops is gonna be SO mad at me for this thread.
:hugs:You remind me of my parents, who I love dearly.

They bought some giant Suburban a few years back with the same worst case scenarios in mind.

THEM - "we need the third row for those once a year occurrences where we somehow need to shove 8 adults into one car."

YOU - "we need a giant SUV because we may one day have 3 kids and will occasionally go on long weekend vacations where we will bring way too much stuff that we don't need."

Good luck my friend

 
I guess I will give the serious response.

We have a 2004 Tahoe z71--bought it in 2008 when the gas prices were high, so we got an incredible deal on it. Absolutely loaded vehicle with every bell and whistle you can think of. The original sticker price (we have the original dealer sticker that was on it) was close to 60k and I think we picked it up for 21k. Split row 2nd seats which I cannot tell you how much you need this with kids so they cannot "touch" one another and those seats fold down. Third row seating that can be removed as well so you have space to move stuff. DVD entertainment system throughout.

We still have only 85,000 miles on it as it is not our daily driver, but a really, really nice vehicle. 4x4--Forest metallic green, sweet rims and tires. We have only had to replace a battery, but we have to change out tires here in a couple months which will run close to $900.

One of the best vehicles I have owned. Drive something like this and you would never ever think about a mini-van.
This is the right answer. We also had tried many vehicles with 3 kids. Had the Pilot for 2 years, Traverse for 2 years and 2007 Tahoe. The Tahoe rides smoother, fits the kids better and is big enough to haul anything you need. (Wife hated the Traverse even though it had 2nd row buckets - looked too much like a minivan and drove like a van not a truck.) The Tahoe is a heavy vehicle which makes it ride smoother but of course takes more gas.

 
And I will tell you one other thing that is neat (well, I think it is anyway) is now that my daughter is 15 and involved in everything under the sun, we have become the parents that do a lot of the driving for my daughter's friends to and from events. One of the things I believe is it is important to know who your kids are hanging out with and this lets us do that. Plus we get to look like the cool parents pulling into Starbucks when we buy drinks for her whole group (and let me tell you as a parent of a teenager when your kid gets the compliment of "you have the coolest parents" from her friends, that makes you feel pretty great because those small victories are sometimes few and far between)

 
Nugget said:
Otis said:
Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$
About 40% of our field sales vehicles are 2015 Expeditions right now. When we order a sales car, we basically just check every box. These started getting delivered late summer, they will probably get turned in late spring. We have about 120 people based in Maweh NJ, but I am not sure the timing would work out with your lease turn in. I would guess they go to Auction with 15k miles between 15-20k less than MSRP.
Any way to get out ahead of this?The guy today had a couple of 2015 "fleet cars," but he said those are never ordered with premium setups. None of these had a few of the essential options we want: captain's chairs in the 2nd row; keyless entry and keyless pushbutton start; forward and rear parking sensors and backup camera; leather.

If we can find a 2015 with that setup and a couple scratches and 10-15k miles on it, I'd gladly take it and save 20 grand.

If we aren't talking about too much time in between, my wife could make due for a month or two in my old beater LR3. It stinks like cigarettes and Slash guitar solos, and has a tendency to stall on occasion if you don't know what you're doing with it, but it could work if it's gonna save us loot.
The vehicles should be fairly loaded. I ordered a black on black 4wd limited when I was in Orange County. It listed for about 62k. Our only limitations were no EL models.

There is not a real clean process. We order vehicles every 6-9 months, they show up and we turn in the old car. ford comes and picks them up and puts them through the auction. Local Ford store usually buys them as the get first crack.

Other companies will also have sales vehicles, but they likely keep them longer. If you decide you like the GM product best, figure out where Chevy has a regional office in New York and talk to the local fleet manager. They should be able to give you ideas on who they work with for courtesy deliveries.

I am turning in a 7000 mile Fusion for a new GT Mustang on Friday. Horrible timing as it is currently 12 degrees, but looking forward to the doughnuts.

 
Nugget said:
Otis said:
Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$
About 40% of our field sales vehicles are 2015 Expeditions right now. When we order a sales car, we basically just check every box. These started getting delivered late summer, they will probably get turned in late spring. We have about 120 people based in Maweh NJ, but I am not sure the timing would work out with your lease turn in. I would guess they go to Auction with 15k miles between 15-20k less than MSRP.
Any way to get out ahead of this?The guy today had a couple of 2015 "fleet cars," but he said those are never ordered with premium setups. None of these had a few of the essential options we want: captain's chairs in the 2nd row; keyless entry and keyless pushbutton start; forward and rear parking sensors and backup camera; leather.

If we can find a 2015 with that setup and a couple scratches and 10-15k miles on it, I'd gladly take it and save 20 grand.

If we aren't talking about too much time in between, my wife could make due for a month or two in my old beater LR3. It stinks like cigarettes and Slash guitar solos, and has a tendency to stall on occasion if you don't know what you're doing with it, but it could work if it's gonna save us loot.
The vehicles should be fairly loaded. I ordered a black on black 4wd limited when I was in Orange County. It listed for about 62k. Our only limitations were no EL models.

There is not a real clean process. We order vehicles every 6-9 months, they show up and we turn in the old car. ford comes and picks them up and puts them through the auction. Local Ford store usually buys them as the get first crack.

Other companies will also have sales vehicles, but they likely keep them longer. If you decide you like the GM product best, figure out where Chevy has a regional office in New York and talk to the local fleet manager. They should be able to give you ideas on who they work with for courtesy deliveries.

I am turning in a 7000 mile Fusion for a new GT Mustang on Friday. Horrible timing as it is currently 12 degrees, but looking forward to the doughnuts.
Do you hate your money? Why are you turning cars over so quickly?

 
Nugget said:
Otis said:
Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$
About 40% of our field sales vehicles are 2015 Expeditions right now. When we order a sales car, we basically just check every box. These started getting delivered late summer, they will probably get turned in late spring. We have about 120 people based in Maweh NJ, but I am not sure the timing would work out with your lease turn in. I would guess they go to Auction with 15k miles between 15-20k less than MSRP.
Any way to get out ahead of this?The guy today had a couple of 2015 "fleet cars," but he said those are never ordered with premium setups. None of these had a few of the essential options we want: captain's chairs in the 2nd row; keyless entry and keyless pushbutton start; forward and rear parking sensors and backup camera; leather.

If we can find a 2015 with that setup and a couple scratches and 10-15k miles on it, I'd gladly take it and save 20 grand.

If we aren't talking about too much time in between, my wife could make due for a month or two in my old beater LR3. It stinks like cigarettes and Slash guitar solos, and has a tendency to stall on occasion if you don't know what you're doing with it, but it could work if it's gonna save us loot.
The vehicles should be fairly loaded. I ordered a black on black 4wd limited when I was in Orange County. It listed for about 62k. Our only limitations were no EL models.

There is not a real clean process. We order vehicles every 6-9 months, they show up and we turn in the old car. ford comes and picks them up and puts them through the auction. Local Ford store usually buys them as the get first crack.

Other companies will also have sales vehicles, but they likely keep them longer. If you decide you like the GM product best, figure out where Chevy has a regional office in New York and talk to the local fleet manager. They should be able to give you ideas on who they work with for courtesy deliveries.

I am turning in a 7000 mile Fusion for a new GT Mustang on Friday. Horrible timing as it is currently 12 degrees, but looking forward to the doughnuts.
Do you hate your money? Why are you turning cars over so quickly?
I think he uses them for business...not solely personal.

 
Nugget said:
Otis said:
Ideal scenario is we wait a few months and find a 2015 with 10k miles on it and all the options we want, and we pick that up for 10 or 20 grand savings. $$$$$$$$$$$
About 40% of our field sales vehicles are 2015 Expeditions right now. When we order a sales car, we basically just check every box. These started getting delivered late summer, they will probably get turned in late spring. We have about 120 people based in Maweh NJ, but I am not sure the timing would work out with your lease turn in. I would guess they go to Auction with 15k miles between 15-20k less than MSRP.
Any way to get out ahead of this?The guy today had a couple of 2015 "fleet cars," but he said those are never ordered with premium setups. None of these had a few of the essential options we want: captain's chairs in the 2nd row; keyless entry and keyless pushbutton start; forward and rear parking sensors and backup camera; leather.

If we can find a 2015 with that setup and a couple scratches and 10-15k miles on it, I'd gladly take it and save 20 grand.

If we aren't talking about too much time in between, my wife could make due for a month or two in my old beater LR3. It stinks like cigarettes and Slash guitar solos, and has a tendency to stall on occasion if you don't know what you're doing with it, but it could work if it's gonna save us loot.
The vehicles should be fairly loaded. I ordered a black on black 4wd limited when I was in Orange County. It listed for about 62k. Our only limitations were no EL models.There is not a real clean process. We order vehicles every 6-9 months, they show up and we turn in the old car. ford comes and picks them up and puts them through the auction. Local Ford store usually buys them as the get first crack.

Other companies will also have sales vehicles, but they likely keep them longer. If you decide you like the GM product best, figure out where Chevy has a regional office in New York and talk to the local fleet manager. They should be able to give you ideas on who they work with for courtesy deliveries.

I am turning in a 7000 mile Fusion for a new GT Mustang on Friday. Horrible timing as it is currently 12 degrees, but looking forward to the doughnuts.
Do you hate your money? Why are you turning cars over so quickly?
I think he uses them for business...not solely personal.
This. I work for Ford and they have me order a new car every 6-8 months. I dont pay for them or the gas, maintenance, insurance. We do low mileage leases for my wife on a 2-3 year cycle, but we may keep her Flex. She loves it and it is a great family car. May be too close to a minivan for Mrs. Otis though. But 350+ HP out of something that looks like a refrigerator is fun.

I encourage everyone else to buy a Ford every 6-8 months though. I would appreciate it.

 
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