do you want me to cherrypick a bunch of dudes who were questionable and put up monster games? and aj had 64 and 95 yards respectively, hes certainly done that while healthy.
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Anyone starting Calvin? (1 Viewer)
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shadyridr
Footballguy
So then cant you make the same argument here? Giants are the #1 pass Def in footballthat had a lot more to do with the steelers D than the injuryTell that to Ray Rice. It was true though for Steven Jackson.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
xthat had a lot more to do with the steelers D than the injuryTell that to Ray Rice. It was true though for Steven Jackson.
degenerate
Footballguy
alright, assuming he goes, i'm going to start maclin over cj in one league, but start cj over bjax in another
CaptainHook
Footballguy
im starting amendola over him
silentmark
Footballguy
Since I'm benching him this week, by all means start him, he's bound to blow up, 6-120 & 1 TD ...
gary mexico
Footballguy
They will be down by 3 td's early, he will be resting....
OU#1
Footballguy
Agreed.Rest Best too. With next weeks bye let your #1 QB, #1 RB, and #1 WR get some much needed healing and come back strong in week 8. I have no idea why they are even considering putting Megatron in this game. It's in New York and the Giants look scary on D right now.I think this is all a coaching ploy to get the Giants planning on Megatron being out there. Not that it really matters. Don't be surprised when Calvin is inactive this week.I'm starting Crabtree and Tampa Mike over him in 1.0 PPR if anybody really cares.
nickel&dime
Footballguy
well, when your other option is Mike Williams (unfortunately of the SEA variety, not TB), you hope and pray that Calvin is active and starting.
SEA on the road is brutal. I just can't drop Big Mike because I told all my league mates that he was my super duper sleeper this year. I'm holding him until he either has a big game (at which time I'll say, "I told you so" and then promptly try to trade him), or gets injured. I hope one or the other happens soon so I can free up the bench spot!
SEA on the road is brutal. I just can't drop Big Mike because I told all my league mates that he was my super duper sleeper this year. I'm holding him until he either has a big game (at which time I'll say, "I told you so" and then promptly try to trade him), or gets injured. I hope one or the other happens soon so I can free up the bench spot!
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I can't think of a good reason why they would play him. If this team is going to develop, they need to have their #1 QB and #1 WR working together for more than one half of one game. Why would you risk not having them back at the same time by sticking one out there when he's clearly hurt? Not to mention they're playing a good defense on the road. It makes all kinds of sense to rest Calvin and let him and Stafford regroup for the second half of the season.
griff321
Footballguy
Yes, but please focus on Megatron.Like some other posters here I was burned when he had 1 rec. for 2 yds at home vs. Pitt the first week he was back from that injury last year. If anyone can show me some stats where he had a good statistical week when he was on the injury report leading up to the game then by all means please share.cvnpoka said:
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Calvin got hurt IN that game against the Steelers on an end around. He was coming off 8 catches for 133 yards against the Bears the previous week.I'm pretty sure he was on the injury report after the Thanksgiving day game in 2009. He started that one and only had 2 grabs and an early TD, but he was clearly hurt. In the next game with a questionable tag he torched the Bengals (a top 5 pass D at that time) with 6 receptions, 123 yards, and a 54 yard TD.
That was a knee injury. This is a shoulder problem. I think the difference there is significant. This is simply a matter of pain tolerance. He still has his legs and leaping ability. All of this talk of Calvin being a decoy is laughable to me as well. Why would the Lions risk their best player with a bye next week if they aren't going to involve him in the game plan? That doesn't make any sense.
Never. Ever. Bench Calvin Johnson. Ever.
Class Dismissed
Footballguy
Leaving for a game and i can't afford a goose egg......Hoping for a big case of the Crabs instead.
kupcho1
Footballguy
Maybe they want to win?
Calvin got hurt IN that game against the Steelers on an end around. He was coming off 8 catches for 133 yards against the Bears the previous week.
I'm pretty sure he was on the injury report after the Thanksgiving day game in 2009. He started that one and only had 2 grabs and an early TD, but he was clearly hurt. In the next game with a questionable tag he torched the Bengals (a top 5 pass D at that time) with 6 receptions, 123 yards, and a 54 yard TD.
That was a knee injury. This is a shoulder problem. I think the difference there is significant. This is simply a matter of pain tolerance. He still has his legs and leaping ability. All of this talk of Calvin being a decoy is laughable to me as well. Why would the Lions risk their best player with a bye next week if they aren't going to involve him in the game plan? That doesn't make any sense.
Never. Ever. Bench Calvin Johnson. Ever.
But damn, I had him out for <cough> Devery Henderson (options are slim in start 3 WR 16 team league)....but now I'm reconsidering.
I'm pretty sure he was on the injury report after the Thanksgiving day game in 2009. He started that one and only had 2 grabs and an early TD, but he was clearly hurt. In the next game with a questionable tag he torched the Bengals (a top 5 pass D at that time) with 6 receptions, 123 yards, and a 54 yard TD.
That was a knee injury. This is a shoulder problem. I think the difference there is significant. This is simply a matter of pain tolerance. He still has his legs and leaping ability. All of this talk of Calvin being a decoy is laughable to me as well. Why would the Lions risk their best player with a bye next week if they aren't going to involve him in the game plan? That doesn't make any sense.
Never. Ever. Bench Calvin Johnson. Ever.
But damn, I had him out for <cough> Devery Henderson (options are slim in start 3 WR 16 team league)....but now I'm reconsidering.
gary mexico
Footballguy
The way the giants D has been playing I dont see a lot of time to look his way down the field. I see a lot of dumpoffs and some TE love..
Bronx Bombers
Footballguy
If he's active, I'll start him. Due to a couple of WRs on byes my only other option would be Tate. I think I'd take my chance with an injured CJ over an untested Tate.
Northbound Train
Footballguy
Perfect....then Hill should have all game to attack via the air to get back in it.Hill to CJ has been a nice combo lately
Northbound Train
Footballguy
This is reasonable....but some of the starts over CJ if he plays are laughable
Calvin Johnson, WR DET
News: The Detroit Free Press reports that WR Calvin Johnson was out on the field catching passes as part of his pregame warmup. He was listed as questionable for Week 6 at the Giants with a sore right shoulder, and he was limited in practice earlier in the week.
Analysis: Johnson's condition improved throughout the week, and this is just one more good sign. Owners should plan to make Megatron active in all Fantasy formats, barring any negative developments, and even though he and the Lions have a tough matchup against the Giants pass defense. We'll be first to know for sure whether or not he'll be active this Sunday on Fantasy Football Today, 11 a.m. ET here on CBSSports.com
News: The Detroit Free Press reports that WR Calvin Johnson was out on the field catching passes as part of his pregame warmup. He was listed as questionable for Week 6 at the Giants with a sore right shoulder, and he was limited in practice earlier in the week.
Analysis: Johnson's condition improved throughout the week, and this is just one more good sign. Owners should plan to make Megatron active in all Fantasy formats, barring any negative developments, and even though he and the Lions have a tough matchup against the Giants pass defense. We'll be first to know for sure whether or not he'll be active this Sunday on Fantasy Football Today, 11 a.m. ET here on CBSSports.com
griff321
Footballguy
:nod: you are right. I was thinking of the Seattle game where he had 2 for 27.Calvin got hurt IN that game against the Steelers on an end around. He was coming off 8 catches for 133 yards against the Bears the previous week.
I'm pretty sure he was on the injury report after the Thanksgiving day game in 2009. He started that one and only had 2 grabs and an early TD, but he was clearly hurt. In the next game with a questionable tag he torched the Bengals (a top 5 pass D at that time) with 6 receptions, 123 yards, and a 54 yard TD.
That was a knee injury. This is a shoulder problem. I think the difference there is significant. This is simply a matter of pain tolerance. He still has his legs and leaping ability. All of this talk of Calvin being a decoy is laughable to me as well. Why would the Lions risk their best player with a bye next week if they aren't going to involve him in the game plan? That doesn't make any sense.
Never. Ever. Bench Calvin Johnson. Ever.
Max Maximus
Footballguy
Going to wait until 12:50 to decide whether to play him.
Worst case, I will start Dexter McClusker over CJ
Worst case, I will start Dexter McClusker over CJ
joffer
Footballguy
i think this says it all
Wrigley
Footballguy
9 of them vs CHI
If you have another WR with a higher floor than an injured CJ and near the same upside, sure bench Calvin. But that kind of player is not Crabtree, yet (similar floors, lower upside gamble), or a guy like Wallace, or a guy like TB Williams who has similar injury and defense concerns.
gary mexico
Footballguy
I am sitting him in one league for Floyd and Amendola and playing him in another over Mike Williams (Sea) and Dez Bryant. Im a habitual "hedge better"
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
I think I'm starting Calvin over Knox, M Williams (SB), and Brandon Tate (also starting Mike williams TB and H Nicks). Windy in NY? Sure. Isn't it usually so?
Green Bay had a nice pass rush and good schemes and Johnson riddled them pretty well.
Tough call for me, because Seattle seems like good pickings for Cutler and Knox. It just seems that Knox gets 2-3 grabs a game and Calvin earns twice that amount. I still have to go with opportunity and I think Calvin sees them.
Green Bay had a nice pass rush and good schemes and Johnson riddled them pretty well.
Tough call for me, because Seattle seems like good pickings for Cutler and Knox. It just seems that Knox gets 2-3 grabs a game and Calvin earns twice that amount. I still have to go with opportunity and I think Calvin sees them.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Right now he's on my bench in favor of D-Jax, Lloyd and Ward. I really wasn't expecting him to be active so I'm not sure what to do now. The injury seemed serious all week and something that could easily come back and re-injure.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Exactly. The Giants have also put up their defensive passing ranks against such potent attacks as Carolina, Tennessee, Chicago in an awful performance, and Houston with a hobbled AJ, a hobbled Owen Daniels, and no Jacoby Jones.The Lions aren't exactly the Colts, but Peyton shredded that defense. Shaun Hill has been playing well and he's targeting Calvin like crazy when the Lions get in the red zone.
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
Neither do I, tough call.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I keep remembering last Thanksgiving when I played him over Driver. Calvin scored a one yard TD and left and Driver went on to have about 160 yards and a TD.
Do I really sit him for Crabtree or Mike Thomas...?
Do I really sit him for Crabtree or Mike Thomas...?
Meat
Footballguy
Kinda my thought process here. I want to start Calvin, but on the road + against the #1 pass D, coming off an injury - I'm starting Knox over him.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
From the pinned thread:
It sounds like Calvin owners can start him with confidence.
The Football Freak
Footballguy
I'm in a similar situation myself. I just put him in over Thomas, but it may change back before gametime. I am nervous about a quick re-injury, but am hopeful since he seemed to get better over the course of the week. They are going to need a big game from Calvin to win, so I'm leaning towards getting his upside into my starting line-up. Tough call, though.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Megatron back in over all other options. Probably the wrong call, even though now logic seems to indicate it's the right move.
Underachievers
Footballguy
Going with Tampa Mike Williams over Calvin today. First time I have ever sat Calvin if he was playing. Grrrrr....better not backfire.
BlueBandit24
Footballguy
Leaving Calvin on the bench in favor of Nicks, Maclin, and Tampa Bay Mike. I'll probably end up regretting it.
Fire the Fat Man
Footballguy
I have no idea who to choose between Calvin, Bess and Knox.
Bess has over 10 points in his last 2 games and GB D is filled with injuries. Seat pass D is 27th and Knox gets Cutler back. Calvin goes against the #1 pass D this week. Calvin really didnt even do that good last week, the TD saved his numbers.
Bess has over 10 points in his last 2 games and GB D is filled with injuries. Seat pass D is 27th and Knox gets Cutler back. Calvin goes against the #1 pass D this week. Calvin really didnt even do that good last week, the TD saved his numbers.
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
Beginning to come around on the Knox vs. Seattle over CJ vs. NYG idea.
