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Always makes me nervous when they agree on anything. Probably means members of both parties have been replaced by alien replicants.Might be the only time in the past 10 years or the future 10.Both parties of congress working together
They don't have access to it. That's hopefully an outcome of an oversight committee.
Depends on quantity of visits versus number of crashes. Also, are these vehicles with aliens inside or probes of some sort?
Mostly agree - but if we were to send something to another planet, perhaps into another solar system, do you think all of our first attempts would be successful, and have a successful return flight? We know of 10 Soviet probes that successfully landed on Venus, none returned (nor were they meant to) - as well as a few from NASA. Less than half of our first 50 missions of probes and such launched to Mars were successful - and that’s just one planet away, not potentially lightyears away.
Grusch addressed this
Not to my satisfaction he didn’t.
He said that there were non-human biological pilots.
Not in all of them. My point is some, or many, of these might not contain biological pilots. Probes or drones.
“I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals”
That's great I guess if you trust both parties of Congress.I was listening in the background but a couple of other interesting things
Grusch telling AOC that he will provide her with specific names and locations of special access programs in a classified settings
Gaetz claiming he was showed classified photos , documents and radar signatures and threatening defunding
Both parties of congress working together
So there have been plenty of crashes, supposedly and statistically a subset of a multitude of visits, yet we can't find a photo or video with quality greater than 80s TV scramble porn?
It’s only vast to us as we are technologically limited. No different then the ocean once was to for early humans, it was impossible to get across and unfathomably big. Now we fly across it in a matter of a few hours.
Exactly. We are looking at it from our current perspective of time and space.
Always makes me nervous when they agree on anything. Probably means members of both parties have been replaced by alien replicants.Might be the only time in the past 10 years or the future 10.Both parties of congress working together
We are an insignificant spec of dust in comparison to the size of the galaxy, let alone the universe (or multi-verse).
Spec of dust, yes. Insignificant? Well that depends on your view of life and it’s worth. Regardless neither of those things have anything to do with the points I was addressing in your first post.
Yep. Very interesting doc
It was very interesting. Lots of crying and conjecture but of course no hard evidence.
It's that level of coyness that continues to piss me off the most about all of this.
one thing?
People say stuff like this all the time thinking that it sounds wise, but it's obviously wrong. If there's one thing that we've learned about the universe during out lifetimes, it's that life -- or intelligent civilization at least -- is a lot rarer than what the Drake equation led us all to believe. If we discovered a civilization similar to ours on another far-away planet, it would be the biggest story ever and we would be extremely curious to learn more about them. Why wouldn't other civilizations be similarly curious to learn about us, especially if they're spacefaring?
In other words, this.
Agreed. I think it’s shortsighted to assume, even if we think it’s impossible, that it’s actually impossible. Another civilization could be far ahead of our knowledge and advancements or even exist in time and space differently than we do.
Life, we believe started on earth about 3.8 billion years ago. About 6 million years ago, we believed eve, our first ancestors came around. “Humans” then came only 200-300,000 years ago. We only developed tools maybe 50k years ago, “civilizations” maybe 5-10k years ago. The Industrial Revolution maybe 200 years ago. We reached the moon ~50 years ago.
No idea. But cosmology is weird and I don't think we really know enough to definitively say that a civilization from 10,000 LYs away couldn't somehow get here using technology that wouldn't otherwise occur to us for centuries. I doubt it, but no way am I going to totally rule something like this out.
I bet, if they could talk, some squirrels probably would have said the something similar about people and cars.
There are a few hundred stars within 25 light years of the Sun. That number jumps to about 60k stars within 100 light years. Multiple that by the average number of planets per each star.
Yep. Or assuming that our current thought of travel by distance and speed is the only method of travel.
Well, that’s depends. If we’re the only place with intelligent life, or even any type of life then I’d say we’re extremely important, and honestly incredible. Or there are lots of places with intelligent life, at which point we have other things to consider.
Hasn’t it already been proven to be of importance? With the scarcity of life just within our own vicinity it’s clearly rare. That rarity makes it important, without even factoring in the intelligence of the life, which is another magnitude of rarity.
Again, this is all from your perspective that we are not important. How do we know what's important to aliens?
At great personal risk I might add. It’s one thing to go on a podcast or talk show and spin a tale. It a whole nother thing to do in in front of the world, under oath, to Congress.
I would love to hear what he would say in a secure room.
So would Congress. But that was denied. Which speaks volumes imo.
All 3?
How was it denied? And by whom?
At the hearing it was brought up that a SCIF room was requested by the committee to speak with Grusch about his classified information knowledge. It was denied.
