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Are Aliens Visiting Us? (1 Viewer)

All these cameras all over the world and no clear picture of a true space craft
All these cameras all over the world and no clear picture of a true space alien
I need more than a blip on a screen or night goggles/vision or whatever they pass off as UFOs
I also don't put a lot of credibility in people just saying they have a number of things in their possession, show me proof

I do think they have an active ongoing UFO program, whether that means they have a spacecraft from outer space or are just tinkering with technology and people see something and mistake it for a UFO from a far off galaxy, but until we see one in the middle of the day without having to squint or make believe what we are seeing is real.
Should be some evidence as clear as a family picture at Disney World at this point and we have nothing like that...yet
 
Ministry of Pain said:
All these cameras all over the world and no clear picture of a true space craft
All these cameras all over the world and no clear picture of a true space alien
I need more than a blip on a screen or night goggles/vision or whatever they pass off as UFOs
I also don't put a lot of credibility in people just saying they have a number of things in their possession, show me proof

I do think they have an active ongoing UFO program, whether that means they have a spacecraft from outer space or are just tinkering with technology and people see something and mistake it for a UFO from a far off galaxy, but until we see one in the middle of the day without having to squint or make believe what we are seeing is real.
Should be some evidence as clear as a family picture at Disney World at this point and we have nothing like that...yet
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Lue Elizondo has said in interviews that there is HD photos of “occupants”. If you are unaware of him just google, long story short is he ran the government investigation program on this.
In the Debrief article Grusch told congress where the crafts are and the names of the programs . There is a theory that the whole thing is a slow roll orchestrated disclosure since the Nimitz article in the NYT in 2017

Either it’s the biggest news story ever and also the government lied to us for years upon years or it’s a massive psyop. Whichever one it is it’s still a massive story
 
HellToupee said:
Ministry of Pain said:
All these cameras all over the world and no clear picture of a true space craft
All these cameras all over the world and no clear picture of a true space alien
I need more than a blip on a screen or night goggles/vision or whatever they pass off as UFOs
I also don't put a lot of credibility in people just saying they have a number of things in their possession, show me proof

I do think they have an active ongoing UFO program, whether that means they have a spacecraft from outer space or are just tinkering with technology and people see something and mistake it for a UFO from a far off galaxy, but until we see one in the middle of the day without having to squint or make believe what we are seeing is real.
Should be some evidence as clear as a family picture at Disney World at this point and we have nothing like that...yet
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Lue Elizondo has said in interviews that there is HD photos of “occupants”. If you are unaware of him just google, long story short is he ran the government investigation program on this.
In the Debrief article Grusch told congress where the crafts are and the names of the programs . There is a theory that the whole thing is a slow roll orchestrated disclosure since the Nimitz article in the NYT in 2017

Either it’s the biggest news story ever and also the government lied to us for years upon years or it’s a massive psyop. Whichever one it is it’s still a massive story
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So like, where's the photos
 
Hoh said:
ghostguy123 said:
Of course, never a video of the actual thing. Crazy how that's always the case
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To be fair, and maybe it’s just because I’m older, but if I saw something terrifying reaching for my phone wouldn’t even cross my mind.
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But isn't that what they did? Reach for their phone?
"There's like an 8 foot person... beside it. And another one inside and it has big eyes and it's looking at us... and it's still there."
 
jhib said:
Hoh said:
ghostguy123 said:
Of course, never a video of the actual thing. Crazy how that's always the case
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To be fair, and maybe it’s just because I’m older, but if I saw something terrifying reaching for my phone wouldn’t even cross my mind.
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But isn't that what they did? Reach for their phone?
"There's like an 8 foot person... beside it. And another one inside and it has big eyes and it's looking at us... and it's still there."
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The Las Vegas kid was making it up
 
Zow said:
Hoh said:
ghostguy123 said:
Of course, never a video of the actual thing. Crazy how that's always the case
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To be fair, and maybe it’s just because I’m older, but if I saw something terrifying reaching for my phone wouldn’t even cross my mind.
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They literally reached for a phone and called 911.
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Again, while I might think to call 911 for help it wouldn’t occur to me to turn on my camera. I guess that’s just me though.
 
tymarsas said:
I find it very suspicious that aliens can invent a craft that can travel millions of miles across the galaxy in the depth of space, but seem to crash regularly over the United States. Seems like really bad luck.
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Or maybe it’s a smart move on their part to let us reverse engineer the POS tech while they keep the reliable stuff for themselves.
 
tymarsas said:
I find it very suspicious that aliens can invent a craft that can travel millions of miles across the galaxy in the depth of space, but seem to crash regularly over the United States. Seems like really bad luck.
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I like that we have unmanned vessels to cruise our solar system, but superior intellects from million of miles away need to man their craft.

Maybe the AI cannot handle the manual transmission.
 
massraider said:
tymarsas said:
I find it very suspicious that aliens can invent a craft that can travel millions of miles across the galaxy in the depth of space, but seem to crash regularly over the United States. Seems like really bad luck.
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I like that we have unmanned vessels to cruise our solar system, but superior intellects from million of miles away need to man their craft.

Maybe the AI cannot handle the manual transmission.
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We have unmanned craft because we can’t get there ourselves. If we could we’d go.
 
dkp993 said:
massraider said:
tymarsas said:
I find it very suspicious that aliens can invent a craft that can travel millions of miles across the galaxy in the depth of space, but seem to crash regularly over the United States. Seems like really bad luck.
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I like that we have unmanned vessels to cruise our solar system, but superior intellects from million of miles away need to man their craft.

Maybe the AI cannot handle the manual transmission.
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We have unmanned craft because we can’t get there ourselves. If we could we’d go.
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Not if we were just going to hide (somewhat badly) and occasionally crash once we got there. I would think that If all we were going to do was observe, and we had that kind of technology, we'd let machines gather all the data we'd want.
 
jhib said:
Not if we were just going to hide (somewhat badly) and occasionally crash once we got there. I would think that If all we were going to do was observe, and we had that kind of technology, we'd let machines gather all the data we'd want.
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Disagree, we’d do both. As we do now when observing other species on this planet. For example we have the ability to dive to the depths of the ocean with remote subs yet we still go down there too. It’s not an either or proposition.
 
:alien:

Emojalien. He cries and goes to Hot Topic to find his latest, greatest angsty alien parade band.

When I was
A young boy
My father
Took me to the city
To see a marching band
He said, "Son when you grow up would you be the savior of the broken the beaten and the damned?" He said, "Will you defeat them your demons and all the non-believers the plans that they had made. Because one day I'll leave you a phantom to lead you in the summer to join the black parade."
 
dkp993 said:
jhib said:
Not if we were just going to hide (somewhat badly) and occasionally crash once we got there. I would think that If all we were going to do was observe, and we had that kind of technology, we'd let machines gather all the data we'd want.
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Disagree, we’d do both. As we do now when observing other species on this planet. For example we have the ability to dive to the depths of the ocean with remote subs yet we still go down there too. It’s not an either or proposition.
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Are we trying to hide from any lifeforms down there while simultaneously regularly crashing & dying in these manned submarine dives?
 
jhib said:
dkp993 said:
jhib said:
Not if we were just going to hide (somewhat badly) and occasionally crash once we got there. I would think that If all we were going to do was observe, and we had that kind of technology, we'd let machines gather all the data we'd want.
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Disagree, we’d do both. As we do now when observing other species on this planet. For example we have the ability to dive to the depths of the ocean with remote subs yet we still go down there too. It’s not an either or proposition.
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Are we trying to hide from any lifeforms down there while simultaneously regularly crashing & dying in these manned submarine dives?
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Not to my knowledge. Nice deflection though.
 
dkp993 said:
We have unmanned craft because we can’t get there ourselves. If we could we’d go.
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Would we? Yes, I am sure some people would want to.

At some point, let's say 50-70 years after we started crashing our spacecraft on other planets, do ya think we might send the unmanned craft?

How many humans would need to get tangled up in alien power lines before we might send HAL 9000 out by himself?

If our science was advanced enough that we design crafts that would travel that far, why would we need manned craft? We a little ways away from autonomous taxis, but we would simply HAVE to send live humans umpteen miles away?
 
massraider said:
dkp993 said:
We have unmanned craft because we can’t get there ourselves. If we could we’d go.
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Would we? Yes, I am sure some people would want to.

At some point, let's say 50-70 years after we started crashing our spacecraft on other planets, do ya think we might send the unmanned craft?

How many humans would need to get tangled up in alien power lines before we might send HAL 9000 out by himself?

If our science was advanced enough that we design crafts that would travel that far, why would we need manned craft? We a little ways away from autonomous taxis, but we would simply HAVE to send live humans umpteen miles away?
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The simple act of curiosity. Is there anything more fascinating that another advanced civilization out there? The thought that we wouldn’t want to personally visit that and observe it is wild to me. Again, we do it here on our own planet, we go out of our way to personally observe areas that we could observe remotely, often at great risks to out own safety.

We are an adventurous species by nature, we have been from the beginning of time. To think that we wouldn’t, if we could, just doesn’t line up with our entire human history.
 
massraider said:
Would we? Yes, I am sure some people would want to.

At some point, let's say 50-70 years after we started crashing our spacecraft on other planets, do ya think we might send the unmanned craft?

How many humans would need to get tangled up in alien power lines before we might send HAL 9000 out by himself?

If our science was advanced enough that we design crafts that would travel that far, why would we need manned craft? We a little ways away from autonomous taxis, but we would simply HAVE to send live humans umpteen miles away?
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In either a coincidence or further proof of the Google overlords are listening to everything we say and type, a news story just popped up on my feed about a submarine carrying tourists (wtf!) down to the Titanic shipwreck has gone missing.

A fitting example I guess to exactly what we were speaking too. Our advanced technology has us able to see and study the Titanic all we want remotely yet here we are not just going down there but bringing tourists! While I’d like to believe our millions of years of evolution and advanced technology has enlightened us, at the end of the day we’re still just stupid monkeys. Who’s to say that ever changes?
 
dkp993 said:
In either a coincidence or further proof of the Google overlords are listening to everything we say and type, a news story just popped up on my feed about a submarine carrying tourists (wtf!) down to the Titanic shipwreck has gone missing.
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Hahahahaha, me too.


Alexa, stop eavesdropping
 
dkp993 said:
jhib said:
dkp993 said:
jhib said:
Not if we were just going to hide (somewhat badly) and occasionally crash once we got there. I would think that If all we were going to do was observe, and we had that kind of technology, we'd let machines gather all the data we'd want.
Click to expand...
Disagree, we’d do both. As we do now when observing other species on this planet. For example we have the ability to dive to the depths of the ocean with remote subs yet we still go down there too. It’s not an either or proposition.
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Are we trying to hide from any lifeforms down there while simultaneously regularly crashing & dying in these manned submarine dives?
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Not to my knowledge. Nice deflection though.
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Deflection? It was part of my statement that you disagreed with (not if we're hiding and crashing). Just pointing out how your comparison differs from the situation that's being described to us.
 
jhib said:
Deflection? It was part of my statement that you disagreed with (not if we're hiding and crashing). Just pointing out how your comparison differs from the situation that's being described to us.
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Fair, though our continued discussion was about whether they would come visit us to which I think I made a rational argument as to why they would.

But to be clear I’m not making a definitive statement on whether they have or haven’t (if there even is a “they”). I think the evidence is getting pretty compelling we are being visited, and while I want to believe, I’m still not 100% convinced we have been.
 
I watched Tupac's hologram dancing and singing by Snoop Dogg like 15 years ago.
Those green lights looked like a fancy light trick. Really not even that fancy.
 

National Security Subcommittee to Hold Hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena​


WASHINGTON—The Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs will hold a hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.” The subcommittee hearing will explore firsthand accounts of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) and assess the federal government’s transparency and accountability regarding UAPs’ possible threats to U.S. national security. This hearing will also highlight legislative efforts to bring transparency to UAPs and require the federal government to provide the American people with information about potential risks to public safety and national security.
“The Pentagon and Washington bureaucrats have kept this information hidden for decades, and we’re finally going to shed some light on it. We’re bringing in credible witnesses who can provide public testimony because the American people deserve the truth. We’re done with the cover-ups,” said Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.).
In 2022, at the direction of Congress, the Department of Defense created the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate UAP reports. The federal government spends millions of dollars examining UAPs yet refuses to be forthcoming with the American people as it continues to declassify certain videos and studies on various UAP incidents with little clarity on the subject’s origins.
“The status quo on the part of the U.S. government has been to leave the American public in the dark regarding information about UAPs, refuse to answer questions posed by whistleblowers, avoid the concerns Americans have about the possible threats UAPs pose to our national security and public safety, and default to extreme and unnecessary over-classification. If the last few months have taught me anything, it is that this is an issue that matters to Americans. It also impacts the transparency and accountability our government is supposed to grant to the people who it serves. I look forward to bringing this topic to light,” said Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.).
WHAT: Hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.”
DATE: Wednesday, July 26, 2023
TIME: 10:00 a.m. ET
LOCATION: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building
WITNESSES:
  • Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
  • Rt. Commander David Fravor, Former Commanding Officer, Black Aces Squadron, U.S. Navy
  • David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Officer Representative, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense
The hearing will be open to the public and press and will be livestreamed online at https://oversight.house.gov/. Press must be congressionally credentialed and must RSVP by emailing oversightgoppressrsvp@mail.house.gov by Tuesday, July 25 at 5:00pm.
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Three witnesses from the military—Fravor , Graves & Grusch
 
HellToupee said:

National Security Subcommittee to Hold Hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena​


WASHINGTON—The Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs will hold a hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.” The subcommittee hearing will explore firsthand accounts of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) and assess the federal government’s transparency and accountability regarding UAPs’ possible threats to U.S. national security. This hearing will also highlight legislative efforts to bring transparency to UAPs and require the federal government to provide the American people with information about potential risks to public safety and national security.
“The Pentagon and Washington bureaucrats have kept this information hidden for decades, and we’re finally going to shed some light on it. We’re bringing in credible witnesses who can provide public testimony because the American people deserve the truth. We’re done with the cover-ups,” said Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.).
In 2022, at the direction of Congress, the Department of Defense created the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate UAP reports. The federal government spends millions of dollars examining UAPs yet refuses to be forthcoming with the American people as it continues to declassify certain videos and studies on various UAP incidents with little clarity on the subject’s origins.
“The status quo on the part of the U.S. government has been to leave the American public in the dark regarding information about UAPs, refuse to answer questions posed by whistleblowers, avoid the concerns Americans have about the possible threats UAPs pose to our national security and public safety, and default to extreme and unnecessary over-classification. If the last few months have taught me anything, it is that this is an issue that matters to Americans. It also impacts the transparency and accountability our government is supposed to grant to the people who it serves. I look forward to bringing this topic to light,” said Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.).
WHAT: Hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.”
DATE: Wednesday, July 26, 2023
TIME: 10:00 a.m. ET
LOCATION: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building
WITNESSES:
  • Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
  • Rt. Commander David Fravor, Former Commanding Officer, Black Aces Squadron, U.S. Navy
  • David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Officer Representative, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense
The hearing will be open to the public and press and will be livestreamed online at https://oversight.house.gov/. Press must be congressionally credentialed and must RSVP by emailing oversightgoppressrsvp@mail.house.gov by Tuesday, July 25 at 5:00pm.
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Three witnesses from the military—Fravor , Graves & Grusch
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Today was the day. Can’t wait to see how this plays out.
 
dkp993 said:
HellToupee said:

National Security Subcommittee to Hold Hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena​


WASHINGTON—The Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs will hold a hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.” The subcommittee hearing will explore firsthand accounts of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) and assess the federal government’s transparency and accountability regarding UAPs’ possible threats to U.S. national security. This hearing will also highlight legislative efforts to bring transparency to UAPs and require the federal government to provide the American people with information about potential risks to public safety and national security.
“The Pentagon and Washington bureaucrats have kept this information hidden for decades, and we’re finally going to shed some light on it. We’re bringing in credible witnesses who can provide public testimony because the American people deserve the truth. We’re done with the cover-ups,” said Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.).
In 2022, at the direction of Congress, the Department of Defense created the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate UAP reports. The federal government spends millions of dollars examining UAPs yet refuses to be forthcoming with the American people as it continues to declassify certain videos and studies on various UAP incidents with little clarity on the subject’s origins.
“The status quo on the part of the U.S. government has been to leave the American public in the dark regarding information about UAPs, refuse to answer questions posed by whistleblowers, avoid the concerns Americans have about the possible threats UAPs pose to our national security and public safety, and default to extreme and unnecessary over-classification. If the last few months have taught me anything, it is that this is an issue that matters to Americans. It also impacts the transparency and accountability our government is supposed to grant to the people who it serves. I look forward to bringing this topic to light,” said Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.).
WHAT: Hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.”
DATE: Wednesday, July 26, 2023
TIME: 10:00 a.m. ET
LOCATION: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building
WITNESSES:
  • Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
  • Rt. Commander David Fravor, Former Commanding Officer, Black Aces Squadron, U.S. Navy
  • David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Officer Representative, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense
The hearing will be open to the public and press and will be livestreamed online at https://oversight.house.gov/. Press must be congressionally credentialed and must RSVP by emailing oversightgoppressrsvp@mail.house.gov by Tuesday, July 25 at 5:00pm.
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Three witnesses from the military—Fravor , Graves & Grusch
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Today was the day. Can’t wait to see how this plays out.
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I listened to most of it. There were things Grusch could not answer due to security clearance. Rep. Burchett noted that they were denied a SCIF to talk to Grusch.

Here is a top 10 list I found summarizing the hearing.

Top 10 things we learned from the Oversight Committee hearings on UAPs.
1. Everyone should go read Mr. Grusch’s interview on News Nation.
2. U.S. government is using irad (Independent Research and Development) program to funnel money from its initial designated use to a “black ops” type use for re-engineering technologies not from this planet.
3. There’s an active government campaign to deny the existence of UAPs and ET life forms.
4. CDR. Fravor, who witnessed the tic tac firsthand, said there was something in the Pacific Ocean causing a white water effect, on a perfectly calm day on the water, then when they returned, it was gone.
5. According to Mr. Grusch, the U.S Government has effectively known of UFO/UAP craft, and life forms since the 1930s.
6. The tic tac or its “follow craft” had radar jamming technologies.
7. The U.S. Government has satellite images of UAPs.
8. The Military Industrial Complex is actively keeping this information under a high-level of security clearance in order to use this technology against our enemies.
9. Whistle blowers are being harassed and possibly murdered for their knowledge of alien life forms.
10. The U.S. Government is still lying to the public about the existence of alien life forms, UPAs and the fact the government has recovered these vehicles multiple times.
 
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bcat01 said:
dkp993 said:
HellToupee said:

National Security Subcommittee to Hold Hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena​


WASHINGTON—The Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs will hold a hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.” The subcommittee hearing will explore firsthand accounts of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) and assess the federal government’s transparency and accountability regarding UAPs’ possible threats to U.S. national security. This hearing will also highlight legislative efforts to bring transparency to UAPs and require the federal government to provide the American people with information about potential risks to public safety and national security.
“The Pentagon and Washington bureaucrats have kept this information hidden for decades, and we’re finally going to shed some light on it. We’re bringing in credible witnesses who can provide public testimony because the American people deserve the truth. We’re done with the cover-ups,” said Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.).
In 2022, at the direction of Congress, the Department of Defense created the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate UAP reports. The federal government spends millions of dollars examining UAPs yet refuses to be forthcoming with the American people as it continues to declassify certain videos and studies on various UAP incidents with little clarity on the subject’s origins.
“The status quo on the part of the U.S. government has been to leave the American public in the dark regarding information about UAPs, refuse to answer questions posed by whistleblowers, avoid the concerns Americans have about the possible threats UAPs pose to our national security and public safety, and default to extreme and unnecessary over-classification. If the last few months have taught me anything, it is that this is an issue that matters to Americans. It also impacts the transparency and accountability our government is supposed to grant to the people who it serves. I look forward to bringing this topic to light,” said Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.).
WHAT: Hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.”
DATE: Wednesday, July 26, 2023
TIME: 10:00 a.m. ET
LOCATION: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building
WITNESSES:
  • Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
  • Rt. Commander David Fravor, Former Commanding Officer, Black Aces Squadron, U.S. Navy
  • David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Officer Representative, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense
The hearing will be open to the public and press and will be livestreamed online at https://oversight.house.gov/. Press must be congressionally credentialed and must RSVP by emailing oversightgoppressrsvp@mail.house.gov by Tuesday, July 25 at 5:00pm.
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Three witnesses from the military—Fravor , Graves & Grusch
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Today was the day. Can’t wait to see how this plays out.
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I listened to most of it. Nothing big. There were things Grusch could not answer due to security clearance. Rep. Burchett noted that they were denied a SCIF to talk to Grusch.
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My expectations were extremely low and couldn’t disagree with you more. Anytime Grusch said he could answer in an open forum the answer was Yes.
I’m very interested in Grusch’s claim of overcharging and money be stolen to secretly fund programs. From Graves the Vandenberg AFB incident while Boening contractors were there
This moves the football forward
 
HellToupee said:
My expectations were extremely low and couldn’t disagree with you more. Anytime Grusch said he could answer in an open forum the answer was Yes.
I’m very interested in Grusch’s claim of overcharging and money be stolen to secretly fund programs. From Graves the Vandenberg AFB incident while Boening contractors were there
This moves the football forward
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I edited out the nothing big. I think a lot of people were hoping for actual proof to come out. It does give Congess more items that need to be investigated.
 
I was listening in the background but a couple of other interesting things

Grusch telling AOC that he will provide her with specific names and locations of special access programs in a classified settings

Gaetz claiming he was showed classified photos , documents and radar signatures and threatening defunding

Both parties of congress working together 👍
 
Why all the gobbledegook about discussing evidence behind closed doors? Get this stuff out NOW (if it exists).
 
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So no proof? Just "I was told someone else saw bodies, I saw pictures of craft that don't look like anything I've seen before"?

That's not anything that's going to move the needle.
 
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