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The phone call with Zelensky in July makes it clear that he was talking about public corruption. He talks about the specifics of the case. Talking to Rudy is fine. People are allowed to talk to each other and share information...we are not such a dictatorship yet where some people are not allowed to have a conversation with other people.zftcg said:
Probably because Biden is Hillary 2.0
The kids in their 20s that Trump and GOP Senators are hustling through to give lifetime appointments to have too much power?parasaurolophus said:
You're focusing on the wrong thing. The bigger question is whether the "investigation" of Hunter Biden is continued (or even initiated in the first place) once Joe drops out. If it doesn't, then it puts a major part of Donald's defense to a lie.
Nah, it doesn't. He never mentions "public corruption", or corruption at all for that matter. He just harps on Crowdstrike and the Bidens, and talks about needing the favor of investigating them. He also dumps effusive praise on the guy who pretty much everyone agreed was corrupt while throwing our own ambassador under the bus. This was Trump trying to make Ukraine do Trump's bidding (by way of his personal attorney and aided by his currently indicted henchmen).
Irrelevant to the impeachment inquiry and trial. Also Biden has sucked for a while. But the appearances of impropriety are what Trump wanted...which is why he released aid without any actual investigation by anyone. Obviously he wasn't too concerned with corruption with Hunter Biden since he released the aid once it was known.
Yes.
When all of these appointments throw out the 2020 election results and ultimately assert that Trump can remain the president? Yeah that would be a big story and popular opinion.
Biden publicly admitted to QPQ in 2018.... It was already a ready-made campaign ad...
Ahh we are back yo claiming its the same? Biden presented bipartisan approved US policy in line with our allies. Not meant to investigate and hurt a political opponent.
moleculo said:
I agree with both of these posts. It seems to me there are some who think the POTUS would announce "okay, we're a dictatorship now!" as a defense.song said:
GOP controlled is still power that isn't Trump's to wieldSkoo said:
If the Senate was 100% controlled by Trump, it wouldn't look any different than it does today.
Actually, that's not true. It wasn't irrelevant to the impeachment inquiry. It was the exact same thing he was being impeached for. Trump was impeached for trying to use the power of his office to smear his potential opponent. He then attempted to use the impeachment trial to further perpetuate that smear.
I have it on good authority that questioning like this can be very effective at getting 100% factual statements and even uncover things from when he was 15.
This is ridiculous. Were you complaining about Congress when Obama and the Democrats had a super majority? Or when Obama was president and they controlled the house? One half of Congress? And almost all of the judicial?Skoo said:
How many times has Trump done or tried to do dictator-like things? (Used the DOJ to harass his enemies or protect his allies; withhold foreign aid mandated by Congress; bullied the media, calling them the enemy of the people; politicized the civil service and other domestic security agencies; used state regulatory powers to punish enemies like Jeff Bezos via Amazon or Ted Turner via Time-Warner; personally enrich himself through state activities; disregard the rule of law by ignoring subpoenas; pardon his friends; appoint family members to positions of power; seek to hold a military parade; constantly spread false propaganda...)parasaurolophus said:
I don't think Trump control's GOP anymore so - and probably LESS - that Obama controlled the DNC
It’s been four years and they still have not managed it....they still chase every far flung conspiracy...every demented reading of facts...they have been granted every investigative tool at the disposal of the Federal government for some odd reason and still come up empty-handed trying to push one convoluted legal theory after another and when they lose, despite all of the advantages granted they and Their unwillingness to cede even an inch they complain that it’s rigged against them.....
I think using things he has tried to do is not a great argument for why america is a dictatorship.
Well, yeah, that's a good point.
I don't believe i mentioned polling. You could see public sentiment and that of the board here for a while.
Sure but there’s almost always a higher judge that can review and potentially overrule the other judge. There are so many judges which makes any one judge (outside of the SC) not that influential or powerful- certainly not at all on the same level as the President. The fact that the judges act differently judge to judge just makes that even more true.parasaurolophus said:
Well I certainly wasn't complaining when the Democrats let Obama off of impeachment without so much as even having witnesses at the "trial".
We still need to get rid of sharia law like every conservative source said he would institute in 2008. Every talking head warned about it every day. Some acted as if it was the biggest threat to the country since the war of 1812. Fear mongers, all of them.
The lack of removal does not indicate there is no oversight. All the checks and balances are still in place. We have a judiciary who have ruled against the Trump administration nearly 100 times (it was 70 as of last April) and stopped or put on hold his actions. We have a Congress which has refused to fund his biggest campaign promise, his wall. Congress has been investigating and fighting the executive branch the entire time of his presidency. How many in the Trump administration have been fired or forced to resign or even worse indicted? Tons of Trump policies have never become law. We have an election coming up and even if he somehow wins, he only has 4 more years of power left, period. This is like the exact opposite of a dictator.
