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are you as passionate about anything as Tim is about posting about politics (1 Viewer)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Keeping with the poetry theme, here is the FFA vs. politics.
The Dover #####
Anthony Hecht
A Criticism of Life: for Andrews Wanning
The Dover #####
Anthony Hecht
A Criticism of Life: for Andrews Wanning
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So there stood Matthew Arnold and this girl
With the cliffs of England crumbling away behind them,
And he said to her, ‘Try to be true to me,
And I’ll do the same for you, for things are bad
All over, etc., etc.'
Well now, I knew this girl. It’s true she had read
Sophocles in a fairly good translation
And caught that bitter allusion to the sea,
But all the time he was talking she had in mind
The notion of what his whiskers would feel like
On the back of her neck. She told me later on
That after a while she got to looking out
At the lights across the channel, and really felt sad,
Thinking of all the wine and enormous beds
And blandishments in French and the perfumes.
And then she got really angry. To have been brought
All the way down from London, and then be addressed
As a sort of mournful cosmic last resort
Is really tough on a girl, and she was pretty.
Anyway, she watched him pace the room
And finger his watch-chain and seem to sweat a bit,
And then she said one or two unprintable things.
But you mustn’t judge her by that. What I mean to say is,
She’s really all right. I still see her once in a while
And she always treats me right. We have a drink
And I give her a good time, and perhaps it’s a year
Before I see her again, but there she is,
Running to fat, but dependable as they come.
And sometimes I bring her a bottle of [I]Nuit d’ Amour[/I].
timschochet
Footballguy
I may have reported 2-3 people the entire time I've been here. I haven't reported anyone in years.identikit said:
Should they choose to, the moderators can back me up on this.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Maybe it's time we remove the stigma from bigotry and racism and have a free and open debate about whether blacks, Mexicans and gays are destroying America. I mean, 63 million people voted for Trump so those views are essentially mainstream already. We just don't want to talk about it. So screw it, let's talk about it. It's better than what we have now.timschochet said:
Capella
Footballguy
I like Tim. I pretty much avoid him because the topics he talks about suck but he seems like a legit nice guy who would help others
However, I do love the fact he has a 106,000 posts and only 5500 likes though.
Even factoring in how fairly recent the likes are, that's an astonishing ratio.
However, I do love the fact he has a 106,000 posts and only 5500 likes though.
Even factoring in how fairly recent the likes are, that's an astonishing ratio. 
wormburner
Footballguy
ShamrockPride said:
Suicide by ban? You want to be a martyr.timschochet said:
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
I'm not a TimHater, but this is BS.timschochet said:
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Would you be offended by the sweeping generalization above?timschochet said:
cobalt_27
Footballguy
That's incredible. And, perhaps, noteworthy...in a tree in the forest sort of way.I like Tim. I pretty much avoid him because the topics he talks about suck but he seems like a legit nice guy who would help others
However, I do love the fact he has a 106,000 posts and only 5500 likes though.
Is it possible there's a worse ratio (1 'like' for every 19 posts) in the entire FBG universe?
rockaction
Footballguy
I might get there. Well, not really.
But do likes matter in terms of quality content, though? Who decides and all that jazz...
I don't generally "like" tim posts because I don't agree with him. Not many do. To be a centrist and fan of the executive is a really unpopular position in politics these days. It doesn't mean he posts stuff that isn't quality.
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captain_amazing
Footballguy
Apathetic is a pathetic way to be.ProstheticRGK said:
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
FUBAR
Footballguy
Depends on your definition of passionate if it's simply caring deeply, sure.
30k isn't that hard if you participate in draft threads - mock forum or here. The truly impressive, awe inspiring part is the size of his posts.McGarnicle said:
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timschochet
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
My best Tim moment was losing some sports bet to him and he asked me to donate to the ACLU. As a goof, I put my name and addesss on the donation form and for the second line I put Tim Schochet.
So now every 90 days I get mail from the ACLU addressed to me and Tim Schochet and my wife always asks who that guy is.
So now every 90 days I get mail from the ACLU addressed to me and Tim Schochet and my wife always asks who that guy is.
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Reg Lllama of Brixton
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
So you're okay with anti-semitic comments as long as the negative broad sweeping generalization is true?
wormburner
Footballguy
No more true than your clown post about all Trump supporters. At least you put effort into your liberalism, now you're just being lazy.
timschochet
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Answer to the OP is YES.....my family.
timschochet
Footballguy
Really? Can you give me an example of a Trump supporter who is not either bigoted or tolerant of bigotry in others or ignorant about bigotry? I don't think it's possible. If you are an intelligent person who voted for Donald Trump and you are not yourself a bigot, then at the very least you are tolerant of bigotry in others, because if you were intolerant of it you could never have voted for Trump given his rhetoric.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
This is broad...even for you. Be careful here. You're in uncharted territory and being so vague you can use this statement for just about every single politician out there....definitely for the two major party options.
wormburner
Footballguy
Besides me? If you want to play The Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, you will find that we're all connected to at least one fool in our lives. But, falling back on guilt by association proves my point about your laziness.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
I'm half inclined to
him and get him banned. I won't though, because it would be too easy... and obvious.
wormburner
Footballguy
I'm half inclined to think he's playing the Ban Me Card on purpose.I'm half inclined to
I won't though, because it would be too easy... and obvious.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Dedfin
Footballguy
David Dodds
Administrator
If anyone wants an example of what I am not going to tolerate, this is it. If the people posting these kinds of broad statements (lumping everyone doing A to be this kind of person) , they will lose their accounts. Not going to keep saying it. Last warning.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
yea, that is pretty bad.
in this case, though, I don't think Tim intends to be incendiary. rather, he simply lacks the nuanced thought process necessary to conceive of an unprejudiced Trump supporter. not defending him, but I don't think it's necessarily his fault. in the spirit of the holidays, we should attempt to be mindful and forgiving of others' shortcomings, however frustrating they may be.
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Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
timschochet
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timschochet
Footballguy
All right David. I will bow to your wishes. I will not make these statements any longer. I respectfully disagree with you, but it's your forum and I wish to stay.
I apologize if I offended anyone.
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
Although I still despise these type of threads, I retract my defence of Tim after reading his last few generalizing posts. How a grown man cannot realize these type of statements will offend people is completely beyond me!
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Look, if you're going to post a million times, you'll eventually stumble into a take that's reasonably good. Problem for Tim is it takes a long time to get there, and you have to wade through the slog of his other crap to get there. There's probably not a guy out here who does less with more in terms of what he could bring to the table, but he gets in his own way. And, usually it's because he's so self-focused and attention-seeking, he posts incessantly, making it impossible to sift through the signal and the noise.
His last few posts representing pretty good examples.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I take your point.
But more to the point: I'm in the finals and sat Cousins for Stafford in a standard 4-pt pass td league, so I'm not sure debating the merits of tim at this point is forefront on my mind.
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Oops, thought this was the getting a boner at work thread.
Carry on.
Carry on.
The Commish
Footballguy
I don't think he has a problem with a discussion of the topic. The topic is fine to discuss just don't be so vague that it becomes a pointless comment that can be seen as a
comment above all else. Seems simple enough 
The Commish
Footballguy
I tend to agree here, though I am still not convinced he lacks the ability to be nuanced. He's shown that he can be and incredibly so. However, in this scenario it doesn't behoove him to be that way because when he is, it detracts from his point.
timschochet
Footballguy
Of course I can be nuanced. And if you read my post again (I won't repeat it here) I NEVER wrote nor implied that all Trump supporters are prejudiced. I think people read what I wrote a little too quickly and then ok what they wanted out of it.
That being said I have resolved simply not to comment any more about Trump supporters (or frankly anybody in here.) It gets misunderstood too easily and in any case it's not necessary to a good discussion of issues. From now on my comments will be reserved for Trump himself or other public figures.
That being said I have resolved simply not to comment any more about Trump supporters (or frankly anybody in here.) It gets misunderstood too easily and in any case it's not necessary to a good discussion of issues. From now on my comments will be reserved for Trump himself or other public figures.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
I for one am glad we've finally arrived in the FFA that Nietzsche predicted. Objective truth is so 2015.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Dedfin
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
I think people over think Tims post. Its really simple. He believes Trump to be a bigot.
Ergo,he believes anyone supporting him must at least tolerate such behavior in order to support Trump.
you can argue he is wrong about a trump. You can turn it around and say Hillary is corrupt and anyone who supported her at least tolerates corruption.
i dont think it's early as incendiary as some may.
Note...I'm not calling anyone anything here...just explaining his post
Ergo,he believes anyone supporting him must at least tolerate such behavior in order to support Trump.
you can argue he is wrong about a trump. You can turn it around and say Hillary is corrupt and anyone who supported her at least tolerates corruption.
i dont think it's early as incendiary as some may.
Note...I'm not calling anyone anything here...just explaining his post
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Politician Spock
Footballguy
What does them being, or not being, prejudice have to do with it? You made a broad sweeping generalization that they are either bigots or tolerate bigotry. That's offensive enough. You didn't have write or imply that they are prejudice to cross the line. You already leaped over the line with the bigotry accusation.
