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Arian Foster Hamstring Injury (1 Viewer)
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captain_amazing
Footballguy
I firmly believe Foster's 2010 season was an aberration, at least from a health standpoint. Since his college days, he's had a proclivity to get banged up, so even if this is a minor hamstring injury, I'd be afraid to pull the trigger on him as the #1 pick. Yes, it's impossible to predict injuries, but you can't just ignore his past issues and think he will replicate or come close to last year's numbers.
I'm pulling for the guy, but wouldn't be surprised if Ben Tate becomes relevant by the middle of the year. I heard he's looked good in camp, but haven't seen anything the past few days--anyone have a link to some new information?
I'm pulling for the guy, but wouldn't be surprised if Ben Tate becomes relevant by the middle of the year. I heard he's looked good in camp, but haven't seen anything the past few days--anyone have a link to some new information?
NeverEnough
Footballguy
What about Ward?
by_the_sea_wannabe
:sj:
I remember watching an oft injured (14 games in 4 seasons) back in college named Curtis Martin. Well look at that he missed 8 in the NFL, 4 of which came in his last year.
No Way Jose
Footballguy
If it's any consolation he injured it on a 40 yard TD.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
Good posting. Injury-prone can be a self-fulfilling prophecy when it comes to running backs. They will all get injured. People who believe a particular guy is injury prone will point to whatever injury he eventually sustains as confirmation.
sihaokills
Footballguy
I think it will be fine
rizzler
Footballguy
Yep. Bump Rice.And Finley.
hutchins929
Footballguy
Just picked up Tate for that reason.
GregR_2
Footballguy
I posted a camp report here with a lot of talk about Tate.On Foster in general, I'm not overly worried about the hamstring. While yes, they can linger, I think a lot of players pull them in camp as they get back into football shape. Unless they say it's going to be more than a week or even two, I won't worry much.
Gopher State
Footballguy
NOT a good sign for a FF first round RB pick
No Way Jose
Footballguy
This is completely wrong. He was fumbler in college but only missed a couple games with an injury. Foster has been quite healthy all things considered.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
the sky is falling! run!!
redBourne
Footballguy
I don't believe that a college injury history can be a tool to predict a RB's (or any player really) fragility in the pro's. Saying that, I wish I knew of a listing that counted a players major injury history for both college vs professional football. On his current hamstring injury, if it was a major concern we'd probably hear more about him limping, laying on the ground in pain, etc. I played with my daughter last week and slightly tweaked my calf; I was fine in 3 days without the high dollar sports' training facility.
Anyway, I always draft with the consideration that any rb will get injured at some point in the season. Some will make it through the year, some will not.
Anyway, I always draft with the consideration that any rb will get injured at some point in the season. Some will make it through the year, some will not.
Saint
Footballguy
To me this is the major news. Leach is a beast and without him I can't see Foster repeating his performance. In addition, he played 7 games against bottom 10 defenses and 4 games against top 10 defenses. In 2011, they are scheduled to play 5 games against bottom 10 defenses and 4 games against top 10 defenses (using 2010 final defensive rankings). So his schedule is a little bit harder as well. IMO, I don't think he repeats as best overall.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Vonta??? http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2011/08/still-freaking-out-about-vonta-leach-leaving-he-is-just-a-hamburger/
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
no way he wins a rushing title on a bad hammy. fantasy servicable possibly depending on degree of injury.
i can tell you the first time i hurt mine i was a waste the rest of the season both hammys. and i reaggravated THEM every year after the injury. he is no longer a first round pick on my list. just took the magic word. HAMMY
i can tell you the first time i hurt mine i was a waste the rest of the season both hammys. and i reaggravated THEM every year after the injury. he is no longer a first round pick on my list. just took the magic word. HAMMY
T with T
Footballguy
What about Slaton??????? he seems to be the forgotten man when just two years ago he was a top 7 back in ppr scoring as many points as CJ3... did Slaton screw Kubiaks Wife???? don't get it
T with T
Footballguy
How many curtis martins come around jack??? you are giving a 1 in a million player. I can give you 1 example for any extreme but think logically... Foster has the Hardesty feel to me and can be dinged up quick. I think that is why they haven't traded slaton quite yet. ben tate is an injury waiting to happen and ward is pathetic. I bet ya Slaton could be starter by midseason if Foster goes down.
T with T
Footballguy
playing with your little daugher in the back yard picking flowers is different then running through a Pile of 300 lb angry men looking to eat you.
I don't think we can use them comparisons
Wild Young Billy
A Crazy Cat
2009 - 7 Fumbles, 5 Lost fumbles.What about Slaton??????? he seems to be the forgotten man when just two years ago he was a top 7 back in ppr scoring as many points as CJ3... did Slaton screw Kubiaks Wife???? don't get it
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I was concerned about this as well until I learned that Foster's ypc was actually higher when he was in one back sets last year. And the Texans just signed a real fb last week (Vickers I think) to replace Leach, so this should be a non-issue, imo.
cheese
Footballguy
Its an interesting stat, but I would expect most guys to be in the same boat. I assume it has more to do with all RB's having more room on non-running downs from non-running formations than it does with how good Leach is or isn't.It does make me wonder how much of the total yardage happened while Leach was not even on the field if you happen to have that stat as well.I was concerned about this as well until I learned that Foster's ypc was actually higher when he was in one back sets last year. And the Texans just signed a real fb last week (Vickers I think) to replace Leach, so this should be a non-issue, imo.
Shutout
Footballguy
Was Hardesty among the league lead in all major offensive categories for a runner last year too? No? Then there is no comparison. I don't know where people manufacture (yes...make up) all these notions that foster is just an ongoing series of injuries because he is not and he never has been. He has had less injuries than Adrian Peterson and has missed fewer games. People can be wrong all they want in thinking it, but it is totally WRONG to be reporting it as if it is the truth.If you want to talk about someone who DOES seem to be having a series of nagging injuries, then you should be talking abut everyone's golden boy Ryan Matthews.
Just the fact that everyone tears Foster down for the slightest thing and completely ignores Matthews despite ongoing injuries tells me that this is a witch hunt not supported by the facts at all.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I thought that stat included a 2 te subset that showed the same thing, but I could be wrong. I saw it around here somewhere.Its an interesting stat, but I would expect most guys to be in the same boat. I assume it has more to do with all RB's having more room on non-running downs from non-running formations than it does with how good Leach is or isn't.It does make me wonder how much of the total yardage happened while Leach was not even on the field if you happen to have that stat as well.I was concerned about this as well until I learned that Foster's ypc was actually higher when he was in one back sets last year. And the Texans just signed a real fb last week (Vickers I think) to replace Leach, so this should be a non-issue, imo.
shnikies
Footballguy
I think people are referring to Foster's injuries in college. Any preseason injury has to be at least a little worrisome for someone with an ADP of 2 compared to the 36 of Matthews. Matthews may have been the golden boy last preseason but it's been quite the contrary this year.
Shutout
Footballguy
Yeah, I know he missed a couple of games one year early in his Tenn career but I really don't remember him having injuries in any of the other years. He sat the first year but that was because they had Gerald. I may be wrong but I don't remember it being like every year he had this or that.I get the hightened concern for a high profile player but I REALLY think some people are trying to make a lot more of it than exists because this is a very common hammy issue. Every year, you see dozens of name players (and more you never hear of) have these issues in camp and all works out. But this is being portrayed as the "beginning of the end??" and "told ya so" and "so it begins" for foster while, at the same time, Chris Johnson just let a season of credit be forgone and it doesn't get half the banter. And for Matthews; yes he's not a top 5 but 36 is still high and, to be honest, the only reason, he's not on the short list at the top is because of his factual multitude of minor injuries last year. And now he shows up to camp and doesn't pass the physical right away. and Now he has something else. Just comparing them because on one hand you have a guy with literarly only one hamstring tweak VS. a guy that was plagued all last year and into this year. The guy with less injuries achieved SO much more last year, yet the guy with the "name" gets a pass while the guy that performed all year last year gets criticized heavily.I just don't see it being a big deal. Even with Matthews'multiple injuries, I'm not moving him around on my draft board so I don't see a reason to do it for Foster.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
If Foster is healthy he will be a top3 RB, no question about it. The OL in Houston is the best in the NFL, perfect combination of finesse, strength, and also their use of screen passes is unmatched right now. Emmitt Smith would still look like he did 20 years ago behind that OL. If you are nervous then take a couple fo the back ups late because whoever is starting is going to rack up FF points, it's that simple. I have heard that ben tate is not the RB2 in Houston and if Foster did go down that perhaps the ball would end up in Ward's hands. I'll stand down to anything the locals are reporting but the nonsense of Foster just becoming pedestrian is horsespit. Unless you predict Foster to go down with a major injury then you are grasping at straws, and even the injury thing feels like wishful thinking for nonowners who are mad they missed out or perhaps owners that won with him last year and are downplaying him this year so they don't get too excited. My .02
Please See Mine
Footballguy
It seems like you are not thinking logically.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
'Please See Mine said:
I spotted that yesterday but resisted the urge.
GregR
Footballguy
Couple of different takes.On the depth chart it's Foster, Ward, Slaton, Tate, and Chris Obgonnaya. Right now only Ward and Ogbannaya aren't missing time with hamstrings.'Ministry of Pain said:
If you asked me 2 weeks ago who to get as the backup, I would have said Ward. I've been to two training camp sessions, and at the first one Tate looked pretty awesome to me and I started to hedge on the previous statement.
I think Ogbonnaya looks decent enough I wouldn't count him out. Risk to Foster, of course not, but a risk to Slaton making the team or not being traded, possibly. That said, there are reports Slaton is looking good this year too. I thought he looked decent, but not as good as Tate. That said, I've seen 2 practices and not much blitz pickup, and the reporters saying this have seen over a dozen, so I'll give what they said consideration.
So really, I'm saying the situation is a mess right now. I'd probably still take Ward, and if I had to bet right now I'd say Ward goes into the season as the #2, but Tate might come out of as #2. But better would be to hold off and see more how it plays out. It's really up in the air.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Guy w/#2 slot in my league is trying to trade down in an open sign of disrespect for Foster. I think he's crazy. AP and Foster are in a class by themselves this season. The hamstring worries a little, but not enough to pass on this guy IMO. He was a monster last season. You don't pass on guys like this when they have such a good chance of repeating. That whole offense is still in tact.
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Silver & Black
Footballguy
Any word on the injury?
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Insoxicated
And HERE'S where it all falls apart for ya..... even FBG Experts all agree drafting based on SOS projections is foolhardy and ineffective.
Clayton Gray: How much does strength of schedule influence your drafting decision when deciding between players with similar projections? And if so, what specific players will you be targeting due to their easier SOS?
Matt Waldman: None.
Jason Wood: I can't emphasize this enough...Strength of Schedule analysis for preseason projections is a complete waste of time. Honestly. And this is from personal experience. As someone who does projections for the site, I try to factor in every angle I can, and for a number of years that included SOS. But it simply never worked out.
Will Grant: I have to agree with Jason on this one - SOS isn't worth much to me in the pre-season, simply because too many things change once the season starts. As Matt points out, it takes about a month or so before you really see who the true contenders are and who is not living up to pre-season expectations.
Forgive the subscriber content post...
It seems that if it was short term, Ward would get it. If it was long term, Tate would be the guy.
GregR
Footballguy
Texans signed RB Javarris Williams. My expectation is that he's only signed so they will have 3 RBs for the preseason game Monday night, and that he doesn't have much chance of making the team unless he really wows. He and Ward and Ogbonnaya got a lot of reps today as they were the only RBs.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Arian Foster has looked good in two straight practices prompting Coach Gary Kubiak to declare Foster good to go for the Texans preseason game versus the Saints on Saturday. (Nick Scurfield on Twitter)
djjosee
Footballguy
Silver & Black
Footballguy
Phew. Just hope he goes easy, gets a few reps and gets out of the game without any exacerbation of the injury.
