Arian Foster torn hamstring? Per John Clayton (2 Viewers)

[Hawk Fan]

If I'm not mistaken you can get his name, date of birth, and social security number from this image.Either he has Lifelock , or he is auditioning for the next generation of "I am Emmitt Smith" commercials.

Probably his medical record number.

 

[Sir Chadwick]

This is all a big ploy so that Arians Mom can now get her baby boy at the turn on the first round in her fantasy draft. It's working well. Suckaz!

 

[Otis]

Worst leg injury I've seen since Theismann. Certainly career threatening.



S A R C A S M

This is novel shtick.

 

[LawFitz]

Is it really beyond reason that Foster could've had his name added to an image of someone else's hamstring tear just to F with the fantasy football community? He himself said it was a joke soon after and him jogging indicates less severity than how that image appears. Wish we could get a doctor to give some input regarding the image. I don't think Clayton would've made the comment without getting an ESPN doctor's opinion, but I'm not convinced the image is really Arian's hammy. He could easily be playing games as a response to the earlier twitter controversy.

He'd be effing with all of the Texans' and his fans as well..I doubt that is the case as it would turn a lot of people off to him. You don't fake injuries just to have fun or prove a point that you think fantasy football is stupid.

To me the smoking gun is how displeased he was with fantasy football owners' original reactions to his hammy flare up earlier - on twitter - the irony! I'm probably wrong and you are probably right, but I'm not dismissing this possibility just yet.Either way this was a bad call or a really really bad call on his part. Bruschi sums it up well:

Edited to fix link - http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6913448

 

[shadyridr]

I cant find the quote right now, but I thought the headline this morning was MRI NEGATIVE.....

PROGNOSIS NEGATIIIIIIVVVEEE

 

[Statler & Waldorf]

So I know this is a stupid question, so please don't all jump down my throat but does anyone think there could be potential disciplinary action made by Kubiak with Foster posting his medical situation out there? Most coaches want to keep this stuff as hush hush as possible. Maybe he won't miss a game with his injury, but maybe he'll miss one for being so forthcoming with information on Twitter? I think that was part of the reason Logan Morrison of the Florida Marlins got sent to the minors......too much tweeting.

 

[glong989]

Is it really beyond reason that Foster could've had his name added to an image of someone else's hamstring tear just to F with the fantasy football community? He himself said it was a joke soon after and him jogging indicates less severity than how that image appears. Wish we could get a doctor to give some input regarding the image. I don't think Clayton would've made the comment without getting an ESPN doctor's opinion, but I'm not convinced the image is really Arian's hammy. He could easily be playing games as a response to the earlier twitter controversy.

He'd be effing with all of the Texans' and his fans as well..I doubt that is the case as it would turn a lot of people off to him. You don't fake injuries just to have fun or prove a point that you think fantasy football is stupid.

To me the smoking gun is how displeased he was with fantasy football owners' original reactions to his hammy flare up earlier - on twitter - the irony! I'm probably wrong and you are probably right, but I'm not dismissing this possibility just yet.Either way this was a bad call or a really really bad call on his part. Bruschi sums it up well:http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/clubhouse?leagueId=722517&teamId=1&seasonId=2011

Doesn't let me read the link because I'm not a member of your league. Probably just need to edit the link without visiting it from your league page.Either way, after reading a few of his tweets he's pretty immature. I can now see your theory being a little more plausible. He thinks he's being cute and proving some ground breaking point by lashing out at fantasy people.

 

[LittlePhatty]

So I know this is a stupid question, so please don't all jump down my throat but does anyone think there could be potential disciplinary action made by Kubiak with Foster posting his medical situation out there?

Actually, that is the most sane question in the thread so far.But I don't think he would punish him by making him sit. Maybe in some other way? I'm sure every NFL team has social media rules now, apart from whatever the NFL itself has set forth.

 

[rizzler]

Is it really beyond reason that Foster could've had his name added to an image of someone else's hamstring tear just to F with the fantasy football community? He himself said it was a joke soon after and him jogging indicates less severity than how that image appears. Wish we could get a doctor to give some input regarding the image. I don't think Clayton would've made the comment without getting an ESPN doctor's opinion, but I'm not convinced the image is really Arian's hammy. He could easily be playing games as a response to the earlier twitter controversy.

He'd be effing with all of the Texans' and his fans as well..I doubt that is the case as it would turn a lot of people off to him. You don't fake injuries just to have fun or prove a point that you think fantasy football is stupid.

To me the smoking gun is how displeased he was with fantasy football owners' original reactions to his hammy flare up earlier - on twitter - the irony! I'm probably wrong and you are probably right, but I'm not dismissing this possibility just yet.Either way this was a bad call or a really really bad call on his part. Bruschi sums it up well:http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/clubhouse?leagueId=722517&teamId=1&seasonId=2011

Doesn't let me read the link because I'm not a member of your league. Probably just need to edit the link without visiting it from your league page.Either way, after reading a few of his tweets he's pretty immature. I can now see your theory being a little more plausible. He thinks he's being cute and proving some ground breaking point by lashing out at fantasy people.

Im a Foster supporter. But I agree, the tweeting stuff is lame. Just go on the field and shut people up by beating last yrs #s

 

[LawFitz]

Is it really beyond reason that Foster could've had his name added to an image of someone else's hamstring tear just to F with the fantasy football community? He himself said it was a joke soon after and him jogging indicates less severity than how that image appears. Wish we could get a doctor to give some input regarding the image. I don't think Clayton would've made the comment without getting an ESPN doctor's opinion, but I'm not convinced the image is really Arian's hammy. He could easily be playing games as a response to the earlier twitter controversy.

He'd be effing with all of the Texans' and his fans as well..I doubt that is the case as it would turn a lot of people off to him. You don't fake injuries just to have fun or prove a point that you think fantasy football is stupid.

To me the smoking gun is how displeased he was with fantasy football owners' original reactions to his hammy flare up earlier - on twitter - the irony! I'm probably wrong and you are probably right, but I'm not dismissing this possibility just yet.Either way this was a bad call or a really really bad call on his part. Bruschi sums it up well:http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/clubhouse?leagueId=722517&teamId=1&seasonId=2011

Doesn't let me read the link because I'm not a member of your league. Probably just need to edit the link without visiting it from your league page.Either way, after reading a few of his tweets he's pretty immature. I can now see your theory being a little more plausible. He thinks he's being cute and proving some ground breaking point by lashing out at fantasy people.

Fixed.

 

[solwoldjr]

Didn't something like this happen to Addai a few years ago? It started with a pull, then progressed into a tear. He never really did much that year IIRC. Not saying Arian is in the same situation, it just seems similar to me.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I don't know a whole lot about a lot of stuff....like tweets and x-rays.....but Foster's reaction after he rehurt it is about all I need......that to me said more than much of the information we are or are not getting right now....

for any of you in here that have ever really injured your hammy....you know how it feels and there isn't a ton you can do for it....and you would also know that little nagging feeling that lingers after you try to come back.....almost like it can go again at any time...I realize these guys get the best treatment there is, but his reaction to REinjuring it says a bunch....and I could be wrong, but often the second reinjuring can be worse than the first....

would not be surprised to see him out 4 weeks.....

 

[joffer]

this is kind of like a congressman texting a picture of his junk to his staffer

 

[KeithKow]

Not sure if anyone else posted this yet, but that doesn't look like a "tear" per se. It does look like a pretty significant sprain, which consists of individual fiber "tears." So calling it a hamstring "tear" is essentially the same thing, but just sounds worse (as if the muscle were pulled from the bone - that isn't the case). The white signals on the MRI represent increased water, or edema, from muscle inflammation. Honestly, it all looks pretty consistent with how they described his original injury.

He should be resting. He will get back to 100% eventually, the question is how soon. I'll be picking up Tate in the late rounds, but I was going to do that anyways.

Keep in mind - it's very difficult to draw conclusions based on one grainy tweeted image. MRIs consist of hundreds of images for a reason.

 

[Thomsen]

via @Stephstradley:

Foster's mon chimes in!!

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

 

[texasheat]

clearly, its /thread now

 

[LittlePhatty]

via @Stephstradley:Foster's mon chimes in!!http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

...with absolutely nothing relevant to the injury discussion. Admittedly I just skimmed it, but she just seemed to go on and on about how much he loves to play football. What was her point?

 

[rizzler]

via @Stephstradley:Foster's mon chimes in!!http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

...with absolutely nothing relevant to the injury discussion. Admittedly I just skimmed it, but she just seemed to go on and on about how much he loves to play football. What was her point?

she did say there's no tear.

 

[LittlePhatty]

she did say there's no tear.

Ah, my reading comprehension skills have failed me once again. Damn SATs, now this.

 

[matttyl]

As fate would have it, the Foster owner in my league is an actual ER Doctor. He and I go back and forth about each other's teams all the time. He responded to the e-mail I sent him with all this "Foster fiasco", and he wrote back - "Well I saw foster's post and MRI. I hope they sit him week one. Doug ------ Medical Director, the hospital he works at".When he talks bad about the players on his own roster, he's normally being very serious.

While I don't doubt your story... And dont totally disagree that Foster may end up sitting week 1.And accurate and unbiased statement cannot be made on a single MRI photo.

Oh, I completely agree. He's just giving me his opinion (again, as both a Doctor and a Foster fantasy owner) from the single picture he saw.

 

[VaTerp]

via @Stephstradley:

Foster's mon chimes in!!

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

...with absolutely nothing relevant to the injury discussion. Admittedly I just skimmed it, but she just seemed to go on and on about how much he loves to play football. What was her point?

You need to read it again:"The pic of his hammy was from the day after the SF game. The white stuff is probably just fluid. There was no tear and he is fine. He's been cleared of anything major and now will just ease back when he's feeling ready."

 

[rizzler]

she did say there's no tear.

Ah, my reading comprehension skills have failed me once again. Damn SATs, now this.

The only reason I read through it all was because, at the risk of sounding racist to some people (I'm half black btw), I was shocked at well spoken his mother is.

 

[RUSF18]

via @Stephstradley:Foster's mon chimes in!!http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

...with absolutely nothing relevant to the injury discussion. Admittedly I just skimmed it, but she just seemed to go on and on about how much he loves to play football. What was her point?

She was replying mostly to the "mega thread" on that board about the "you FF guys suck" tweet.

 

[LawFitz]

via @Stephstradley:Foster's mon chimes in!!http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

...with absolutely nothing relevant to the injury discussion. Admittedly I just skimmed it, but she just seemed to go on and on about how much he loves to play football. What was her point?

The pic of his hammy was from the day after the SF game. The white stuff is probably just fluid. There was no tear and he is fine. He's been cleared of anything major and now will just ease back when he's feeling ready.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Man, I have a draft in about 2 hours. I hope this gets cleared up by then.

How would the Sharks or Hawks handle this situation? Ignore this news? Avoid him? Just drop him a couple spots?

 

[rizzler]

Man, I have a draft in about 2 hours. I hope this gets cleared up by then. How would the Sharks or Hawks handle this situation? Ignore this news? Avoid him? Just drop him a couple spots?

I #### you not, Id still take him no1 or 2.And be sure to grab Tate as well

 

[Hawk Fan]

via @Stephstradley:

Foster's mon chimes in!!

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

...with absolutely nothing relevant to the injury discussion. Admittedly I just skimmed it, but she just seemed to go on and on about how much he loves to play football. What was her point?

You need to read it again:"The pic of his hammy was from the day after the SF game. The white stuff is probably just fluid. There was no tear and he is fine. He's been cleared of anything major and now will just ease back when he's feeling ready."

There is a tear. It may be small and within the muscle, but no one can tell without the other images. She probably means it wasn't avulsed off the bone, which would be way more serious. It just sounds worse when you say partial tear rather than muscle pull or muscle strain, but they are the same thing.

 

[glong989]

Man, I have a draft in about 2 hours. I hope this gets cleared up by then. How would the Sharks or Hawks handle this situation? Ignore this news? Avoid him? Just drop him a couple spots?

I #### you not, Id still take him no1 or 2.And be sure to grab Tate as well

Well, if this draft is in a few hours Tate will be going a lot earlier than he was yesterday. I think Without knowing anything further I would avoid this whole situation if I had an early first round pick and could just go with ADP, Rice, etc. Let someone else deal with it. If you have a later first round pick and he falls I might consider it. Hamstrings are fickle injuries. This could really be a nagging injury that hinders someone all year off and on..or it could be fine and he's out there for the first game.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Just had my draft an hour ago, took Tate in the last round. Go over to rotoworld and see the Foster news. SHARK.

 

[Shutout]

John Clayton, Senior SenILE Football Analyst

Must be tough trying to find any scraps between Schefter and Mort.

The Hawks wouldn't have drafted Tate. A 12 year old kid can look at a roster and say "wow. This team has two RBs on the team that are under 30 AND don't have a fused neck and the starter led the league last year."

*Walks to laptop..clicks "add Player"

Oh..and Bump Finley.

 

[Chaka]

Is it really beyond reason that Foster could've had his name added to an image of someone else's hamstring tear just to F with the fantasy football community? He himself said it was a joke soon after and him jogging indicates less severity than how that image appears. Wish we could get a doctor to give some input regarding the image. I don't think Clayton would've made the comment without getting an ESPN doctor's opinion, but I'm not convinced the image is really Arian's hammy. He could easily be playing games as a response to the earlier twitter controversy.

He'd be effing with all of the Texans' and his fans as well..I doubt that is the case as it would turn a lot of people off to him. You don't fake injuries just to have fun or prove a point that you think fantasy football is stupid.

To me the smoking gun is how displeased he was with fantasy football owners' original reactions to his hammy flare up earlier - on twitter - the irony! I'm probably wrong and you are probably right, but I'm not dismissing this possibility just yet.Either way this was a bad call or a really really bad call on his part. Bruschi sums it up well:

http://games.espn.go...1&seasonId=2011

Doesn't let me read the link because I'm not a member of your league. Probably just need to edit the link without visiting it from your league page.Either way, after reading a few of his tweets he's pretty immature. I can now see your theory being a little more plausible. He thinks he's being cute and proving some ground breaking point by lashing out at fantasy people.

at your definition of lashing out.

 

[Shutout]

Just had my draft an hour ago, took Tate in the last round. Go over to rotoworld and see the Foster news. SHARK.

Congratulations on your 4-person, 7 round draft at the golden years rest home. Hope its a big money league "shark".

 

[rizzler]

Just had my draft an hour ago, took Tate in the last round. Go over to rotoworld and see the Foster news. SHARK.

Congratulations on your 4-person, 7 round draft at the golden years rest home. Hope its a big money league "shark".

COuldn't have said it any better

 

[glong989]

Is it really beyond reason that Foster could've had his name added to an image of someone else's hamstring tear just to F with the fantasy football community? He himself said it was a joke soon after and him jogging indicates less severity than how that image appears. Wish we could get a doctor to give some input regarding the image. I don't think Clayton would've made the comment without getting an ESPN doctor's opinion, but I'm not convinced the image is really Arian's hammy. He could easily be playing games as a response to the earlier twitter controversy.

He'd be effing with all of the Texans' and his fans as well..I doubt that is the case as it would turn a lot of people off to him. You don't fake injuries just to have fun or prove a point that you think fantasy football is stupid.

To me the smoking gun is how displeased he was with fantasy football owners' original reactions to his hammy flare up earlier - on twitter - the irony! I'm probably wrong and you are probably right, but I'm not dismissing this possibility just yet.Either way this was a bad call or a really really bad call on his part. Bruschi sums it up well:

http://games.espn.go...1&seasonId=2011

Doesn't let me read the link because I'm not a member of your league. Probably just need to edit the link without visiting it from your league page.Either way, after reading a few of his tweets he's pretty immature. I can now see your theory being a little more plausible. He thinks he's being cute and proving some ground breaking point by lashing out at fantasy people.

at your definition of lashing out.

lash outvb (intr, adverb)

- attack in speech or writing

synonyms would include criticize.

Where did I go wrong? Please educate.

 

[whodeywhodey]

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/27247/video-arian-fosters-mri

ESPN medical analyst Michael Kaplan insists Arian Foster is "very unlikely" to play in Week 1 after examining the MRI Foster tweeted of his injured hamstring on Wednesday.

Just be sure to take this with a grain of salt. We never trust third-party medical opinions and are just relaying an opinion. "He's torn some of the muscle fibers, we'll call it Grade 1 to 2," said Kaplan. "There's a fair amount of swelling and bleeding on the MRI, so this is real. ... It's gonna be a couple weeks at least. If you get him back too soon, he's at a high risk of re-rupture. I think they're gonna go a little slow with him."

 

[Multiple Scores]

What are the chances foster rushes back and kills his season? High IMO

 

[Concept Coop]

What are the chances foster rushes back and kills his season? High IMO

Doctor? Or Hawk?

 

[joffer]

i'm going to go steal Arian's identity....BRB

 

[heidbrink]

http://a3.img.mobypicture.com/5780493af65815d4868f1a56d16d65e2_view.jpgHere is the actual MRI Foster posted. Any Doctors care to evaluate?

Looks like a leg.

...a horse leg.

 

[eoMMan]

Word is that the Texans are contacting Domanick Williams (formerly Davis), their former stud RB....

justjoking

 

[GroveDiesel]

FWIW, Sigmund Bloom is tearing up Twitter saying that the guy to have right now is Ward, not Tate and that the Tate love is horribly misplaced.

Reason given is that Ward is a better pass blocker and the Texans/Kubiak want a to be able to run or throw at any time and they don't trust Tate to not get Schaub killed.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Just had my draft an hour ago, took Tate in the last round. Go over to rotoworld and see the Foster news. SHARK.

a smart shark doesn't swim with other sharks. He swims in leagues with lots if big fat stupid tunafish. Keep talking nonsense about 7 team leagues though. Amusing.Congratulations on your 4-person, 7 round draft at the golden years rest home. Hope its a big money league "shark".

COuldn't have said it any better

 

[Couch Potato]

via @Stephstradley:Foster's mon chimes in!!http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764362&postcount=1

Nice post by the mom. Seems to be an intelligent woman too, and has a good perspective on things in general.

 

[joffer]

Word is that the Texans are contacting Domanick Williams (formerly Davis), their former stud RB....

justjoking

not the shark move, not the hawk move, but the Gorilla move is DD.

 

[uwftbl]

If you are going to make a play on the situation wouldn't you pick up Ward rather than Tate?

 

[ScottNorwood]

THIS THREAD IS JUST HEARSAY AND CONJECTURE! WHERE ARE THE COLDHARD FACTS!?!?! I NEED 2 NO CUZ I DRAFT 2NITE

 

[rizzler]

THIS THREAD IS JUST HEARSAY AND CONJECTURE! WHERE ARE THE COLDHARD FACTS!?!?! I NEED 2 NO CUZ I DRAFT 2NITE

The best fact youre going to get is Foster and his mom saying no tear and ready for week 1.

 

[pantherclub]

If you are going to make a play on the situation wouldn't you pick up Ward rather than Tate?

tate by a long shotI think he moves from teh 10th round into the 7 range. Maybe higher if you feel Foster will be out a while.

 

[Helm]

tate and ward would split for sure right now, but hopefully we don't have to see it

I happen to have Foster on my team... couldn't decide WHO to pickup for a handcuff, but finally after looking up their profiles at nfl.com went with Tate. I simply decided with that Terrell Davis Goatee he HAD to be the better option. Also realized this was an even better decision than I anticipated being Kubiac was coaching with the Broncos during TD's hayday, coincidence? Maybe.

 

[dhockster]

As I said in the Texans thread a week or two back, I think Tate is the one to have this season if Foster is hurt. Ward is more of a straight ahead, pound the ball runner and would be used more than Tate when Foster is healthy because he is a change of pace from Foster and keeps the defense from getting comfortable in how they play the run. When Foster is hurt, though, Tate is much more of a typical Kubiak one-cut and go runner, and he would fill Fosters role if Foster doesn't play.

I agree with an earlier post that earlier in the season the split of carries between Tate and Ward would probably be more 50/50 because Ward would definitely be used in passing downs if Kubiak is more comfortable with him as a pass protector. As the season goes on, and assuming Tate progresses as a pass blocker, Tate would become the more dominant running back.