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What's his value right now?
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Arian Foster (2 Viewers)
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I read somewhere on the board last night (can't remember where though, sorry) that he went in the 4th of an experts draft. I'd say he's a solid 5th round value at this point which would make him either a low-end RB2 or a high-end RB3.
cr8f
Footballguy
In the SOFA IDP draft he went in this neighborhood-right before spiller who may be moving up now.
6.07 67. USA TODAY Foster, Arian HOU RB Tue Aug 17 8:25:21 p.m. PT 2010
7.01 73. RotoWorld Spiller, C.J. BUF RB Wed Aug 18 8:57:03 a.m. PT 2010
7.05 77. Sports Grumblings Jones, Felix DAL RB Wed Aug 18 12:26:23 p.m. PT 2010
7.06 78. USA TODAY Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB Wed Aug 18 12:45:26 p.m. PT 2010
7.10 82. FantasyFootball.com Bush, Reggie NOS RB Wed Aug 18 12:59:53 p.m. PT 2010
7.11 83. RotoWire Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB Wed Aug 18 1:02:56 p.m. PT 2010
8.02 86. RotoWire Bush, Michael OAK RB
It's a 1.5 PPR league.
6.07 67. USA TODAY Foster, Arian HOU RB Tue Aug 17 8:25:21 p.m. PT 2010
7.01 73. RotoWorld Spiller, C.J. BUF RB Wed Aug 18 8:57:03 a.m. PT 2010
7.05 77. Sports Grumblings Jones, Felix DAL RB Wed Aug 18 12:26:23 p.m. PT 2010
7.06 78. USA TODAY Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB Wed Aug 18 12:45:26 p.m. PT 2010
7.10 82. FantasyFootball.com Bush, Reggie NOS RB Wed Aug 18 12:59:53 p.m. PT 2010
7.11 83. RotoWire Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB Wed Aug 18 1:02:56 p.m. PT 2010
8.02 86. RotoWire Bush, Michael OAK RB
I held on in 2 of them. In one I traded Slaton for Charles Woodson but kept Foster(wasn't even asked to trade him).
It's a 1.5 PPR league.
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nysportsfan
Footballguy
Did he fumble again last night?
AtomicDogg97
Footballguy
In the recent Yahoo friends and family draft Foster went #47 overall.
ShortStackofPancakes
Footballguy
Which makes sense, as yahoo has bumped him up to 48 in their default rankings, thereby eviscerating his value for thos of us yet to draft.
coolnerd
Footballguy
He fumbled againt the Saints. It was technically strip, but really he did not cover the ball well.
zadok
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
Well Tate is out of the picture this year. So we have Foster and Slaton. My $$$ and value based draft approach still has Slaton as the best back to own in PPR on the Texans. I still feel talent always wins out and Slaton is the playmaker and will at some point take the reigns in this offense as the go to RB and the guy who will have the most points in PPR scoring.
Foster is a good back. And should play pretty good, but when push comes to shove and this team needs points or big plays Slaton will be on the field, especialy during the most critical times if playing from behind. Now if he puts the ball on the ground like last season....it's probably over. But I strongly feel he will be fine.
And speaking about fumbles...all the talk of ADP having a big problem (like Slaton).
Do you know who had more fumbles than ADP in his first 3 years in the NFL?
Walter Payton.
So keep telling yourself fumbles will ground very good RB's careers....as long as they work it out they will still get the ball becuase more often than not those backs will help their repsective teams win more games than lose them.
Now I am not comparing Slaton to Payton (and ADP has a long way to go to be mentioned in the same breath kid is only 3 years going on 4 years in). But Slaton is very important to this offense. And it will become evident over the course of 16 games.
Foster is a good back. And should play pretty good, but when push comes to shove and this team needs points or big plays Slaton will be on the field, especialy during the most critical times if playing from behind. Now if he puts the ball on the ground like last season....it's probably over. But I strongly feel he will be fine.
And speaking about fumbles...all the talk of ADP having a big problem (like Slaton).
Do you know who had more fumbles than ADP in his first 3 years in the NFL?
Walter Payton.
So keep telling yourself fumbles will ground very good RB's careers....as long as they work it out they will still get the ball becuase more often than not those backs will help their repsective teams win more games than lose them.
Now I am not comparing Slaton to Payton (and ADP has a long way to go to be mentioned in the same breath kid is only 3 years going on 4 years in). But Slaton is very important to this offense. And it will become evident over the course of 16 games.
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talent always wins out, so you think Slaton takes the job? Foster is one of the better runnung backs to ever come out of Tennessee. He should have broken Travis Henry's rushing record if it werent for a joke of a line, coaching problems and crap qb play.eta: he's got the fumblitis bad though. "fumblin foster"
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Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Slaton is still useful of course and should get some screens and maybe some returns. But I can't envision him being close to Foster in rushing attempts as things stand now. Slaton has value but is not a guy who you'd want to start in many games in my opinion. Foster looks good to me right out of the gate vs. Indy.
I like Foster in this offense a lot, especially with at least a few 2009 games demonstrating legit production.
I like Foster in this offense a lot, especially with at least a few 2009 games demonstrating legit production.
timschochet
Footballguy
I'mj watching Houston/Dallas. On the first drive there were 6 passes, and Foster was targeted 4 times (he caught 3 of them.) I have a VERY good feeling about this...
bulger2holt
Footballguy
what will his adp in a ppr be after this game ?
"The Waterboy"
Footballguy
Not to "change the subject" too far off but who's thinking that Foster is now/was ahead of Best going into the season??? Foster is playing awfully well and catching the ball quite a bit better than I expected which the fact that Schaub is looking to him so often is somewhat interesting!!! Looking forward to the rest of the half....
Todem
Footballguy
No..Best is a full round ahead of Foster IMO.
"The Waterboy"
Footballguy
I was thinking the same thing but Foster is looking really good and may not be as much of an "injury risk" as Best...
"The Waterboy"
Footballguy
No kidding...I have to draft in a keeper league tomorrow and I believe I'll have the choice between Foster and Best and his effort tonight really has me freakin' out....
coolnerd
Footballguy
Even as Houston Homer, Best over Foster. Especially if there is another player @ another position you like, might consider skipping Best for foster a round later though.
The Jerk
Footballguy
This sounds good in a vacuum (and I don't think it will hurt elite RBs career all that much) but it's somewhat misleading because fumbles are considerably less frequent today than they were in Payton's early seasons.With huge help from an article on pro-football-reference: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=522
It's absolutely true that Payton's 30 fumbles on 921 touches (3.26 fumbles per 100 touches) are far more both in number and in frequency than Peterson's 20 fumbles on 998 touches (2.00 fumbles per 100 touches). However, once the data is normalized by looking at leaguewide numbers, a different story emerges.
The frequency of fumbles leaguewide from 1975-1977 during Payton's first three seasons was 2.63 fumbles per 100 touches.
In the article, only 2007 was shown, which indicated 1.11 fumbles per 100 touches. Being kind to Peterson, let's increase that number by 20% in case there was a surge in fumbles in 2008 and 2009 and make the frequency 1.33 fumbles per 100 touches.
Even with this very likely overestimation of the fumbling rate, it can be seen that Peterson far exceeds Payton's NORMALIZED fumbling frequency:
Payton: 3.26 fumbles per 100/2.63 NFL average per 100 = 24% higher fumble rate than the NFL average
Peterson: 2.00 fumbles per 100/1.33 estimated NFL average per 100 = 50% higher fumble rate than the NFL average
So it's not a fair comparison to just look at total fumbles. The modern NFL places a far higher premium on turnovers than the mid-1970s NFL of Walter Payton's first three seasons.
The NFL in the 1970s was far more forgiving of turnovers. Watching a replay of SB XIV on NFL network, I thought I didn't hear the announcers correctly when they stated that the Steelers and Rams were #1 and #2 in turnovers committed in the 1979 season, but there they were in the Super Bowl. The Steelers had 50 turnovers that year.
"The Waterboy"
Footballguy
I am worried about Best's size and the fact that he's had at least on somewhat serious concussion but he sure did his thing earlier too!!! I need to draft a RB at my draft position so it's either one as Mathews will be gone...I apologize for all of my "who do I draft" ?'s but I was all set to take Best, especially after his effort today, but Holy Cow does Foster look good...not to mention the Texan's offense being what it is compared to Detroit's who's just "up-and-coming" at best....
"The Waterboy"
Footballguy
Oh boy, I just had something come to my attention...it seems I was unaware of Foster's propensity to cough up the ball aka Slaton!!! I think if both are available, which is not for sure, I'll take Best but I sure to like what I'm seeing out of Foster tonight....
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gnarboots11
Footballguy
I'd take Arian Foster over Best everytime. He plays in one of the top offenses in the NFL and they get him the ball constantly and he is a stud. Arian Foster is this years Ray Rice, you better get on board.
gorf
Footballguy
seriously? poor.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Please stop.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
seriously? poor.
Does this set the bar for poorest?bulger2holt
Footballguy
I hope the dude in my league that is drafting 12th isn't watching this game because I want to take Foster at 4:2. I am going Best/Spiller/Foster in 3rd,4th and 5th. I bought the hype on these three. Last year you guys sold me on Ray Rice and I won the league. Thanks Shark Pool.
loser and racist. nice.
He's going in the 4th at this point ... unless he REALLY can be a RB1 he's no longer someone I expect to be able to draft in a redraft format over the SSmiths and Welkers of the world let alone the next tier of QB's and the start of the TE run but he does look pretty good.
i got this guy in the 12th 2 weeks ago when everyone was still thinking slaton. im ecstatic. but i agree, no value left here.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
While the nickname is pathetic, I don't think he was trying to be racist. Ignorant, sure, but go easy on labeling someone a racist based on one dumb comment.
true my bad.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Aware of the differences in spelling?
Regardless he's climbing up draft boards if you all havent drafted. Someone will get him in Round 4 no doubt.obviously. the spelling isn't the issue.Aware of the differences in spelling?
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
I'd guess that if someone came up with a dis-tasteful nickname that came from black culture there would be much less uproar...obviously. the spelling isn't the issue.Aware of the differences in spelling?
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you are a troll.I'd guess that if someone came up with a dis-tasteful nickname that came from black culture there would be much less uproar...obviously. the spelling isn't the issue.Aware of the differences in spelling?
netnalp
Footballguy
Your right! Why then of all the words they could combine with his name did they come up with nation? I guess it's like KISS Nation, or that show Sports Nation.Aware of the differences in spelling?
Like the paint job on top of the General Lee shouldn't be offensive. The Confederate Flag was a symbol of the Confederate States, not a Dodge Charger. 
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Gopher State
Footballguy
Foster, Best, Spiller, Finley will cost you more then their true value now. In my 10 team re-draft last night Foster, Best, Spiller, all went late 3rd/ early 4th round. I was left taking Ryan Grant late in the 4th round. I take the sure deal over the hype.bulger2holt
Footballguy
I think he is worthy of the 4th round of a redraft at this point, especially PPR. He looks the part of a top 10 rb to me. I would probably handcuff Slaton in rd 9 or 10 though.
I like the way J Johnson looks. Good size and quick through the hole.
gnarboots11
Footballguy
I think it just rolls off the tongue. Seriously I was at the sports bar tonight and a bunch of dudes were watchin the game and I heard random people callin him Arian Foster. I don't know what to tell you or argue against you or whatever but thats just his nickname. It's a good nickname, I don't even know what the hooplah is. We as fans are part of the Arian Foster and he is the grand wizard of the Arian Foster.Your right! Why then of all the words they could combine with his name did they come up with nation? I guess it's like KISS Nation, or that show Sports Nation.Aware of the differences in spelling?Regardless he's climbing up draft boards if you all havent drafted. Someone will get him in Round 4 no doubt.
Doug B
Footballguy
Going into a redraft full of risk-takers tomorrow ... pretty confident Foster will go late 2nd round or early 3rd (12 drafters). There are some major services that already has Foster ranked around RB 10-12 ... think he'll climb a few notches after the tonight's action.
Myself .... he looks like a Top-5 RB to me.
Myself .... he looks like a Top-5 RB to me.
Todem
Footballguy
Pre-Season bear traps gotta love them.Not saying Foster will not be good...top 5 based on a pre-season game.Unreal.I will let everyone else take him in round 3...4th round..yeah I would take that chance. He has done nothing yet.
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HenryMuto
Footballguy
Top 5 ? What in the ?So your saying Foster is better then at least 1 of these RB's ?C-JohnsonPetersonDrewRay RiceGore
