Arian Foster (1 Viewer)

[massraider]

another draft anecdote:12-team, start 1/2/2/1, reasonably normal scoring, mixed skill levels...Foster went at 4.04, at RB18, one pick after Best, and just ahead of McCoy and Wells.

I am thinking this about right in most 12 team leagues.

 

[Doug B]

The Cowboys, looking forwards to week three/Sept. 26th of the regular season, opted to play totally vanilla schemes and bring the real deal when the game counted. The Texans opted to come at the Cowboys full bore in the preseason and then deal with the consequences of doing so in week three of the regular season. We'll soon see which team was more wise in their approach to competing for the "Governor's Cup".

You're right about Dallas's defensive schemes. But there's no way Kubiak fully opened up his playbook against Dallas. ALL NFL teams largely play vanilla in the pre-season on both sides of the ball ... keeps a lot of schemes off of film.The last team I can remember not doing that was the Redskins with Spurrier as HC. Recall that Spurrier taking pre-season seriously was considered a pretty bad joke.

 

[Gr00vus]

If Kubiak can get a running game going, the likes of what we saw in Week 16 and 17 last season, and versus Dallas last Saturday, expect Schuab's numbers to decline.Kubiak wants to run.

I figure Kubiak wants to win. His 2 best skill players on offense are Johnson and Schaub. Those are the guys who'll be featured in the offense and I doubt their numbers take a significant hit (barring injury or offensive line problems).

 

[Koya]

If Kubiak can get a running game going, the likes of what we saw in Week 16 and 17 last season, and versus Dallas last Saturday, expect Schuab's numbers to decline.Kubiak wants to run.

I figure Kubiak wants to win. His 2 best skill players on offense are Johnson and Schaub. Those are the guys who'll be featured in the offense and I doubt their numbers take a significant hit (barring injury or offensive line problems).

What Houston was missing last year was the ability to run the clock. Yeah, they have a prolific offense and great passing game - what you need is a closer who can come in and eat up the last 4, 8, 10 minutes of a game. That is not about run vs. pass but about situation, and Houston will provide for running situations late in games - if they have a grinder in Foster, he would benefit (those are the times that a good RB game goes to great - 50-80 extra yards in the 4th against a tired, desperate defense, get 2-4 additional TDs in those situations over the course of a year for a RB, etc.)

 

[humpback]

Mark, I appreciate the rationale behind your rankings as well. Even if we may disagree, explanations are usually very helpful.

Any reason why you are disregarding 2008 in your analysis? Houston only ran the ball 7 more times in 2008 than they did in 2009, the system was basically identical, yet Slaton was the #7 RB in standard scoring (higher in PPR) leagues in 2008.

Isn't it possible that the RB breakdown last year was due to Slaton's injuries/ineffectiveness, and 2010 ends up closer to 2008 than 2009, when Slaton got 70% of the RB carries? If you look at the beginning of the season, Slaton was still getting 65% or so of the RB carries before he was pulled as well. I think, barring injury or horrible play, that Foster will get around 65-70% of the carries, Slaton 15-20%, and around 15% for the rest. That's about how they've handled it the past 2 seasons when they've had a healthy starting RB.

Hey humpback,The big difference between 2008 and 2009 (besides Slaton's injuries/ineffectiveness) was the below, IMO:

Matt Schaub

2007 HOU 11 192 289 2241 7.8 9 9 17 52 3.1 0 144 23

2008 HOU 11 251 380 3043 8.0 15 10 31 68 2.2 2 226 21

2009 HOU 16 396 583 4770 8.2 29 15 47 61 1.3 0 360 4

With as much improvement as Schaub showed last season (in both TDs and durability), I think that 420-440 carries (which they posted in both 08 and 09 (437 08 and 425 09) is a likely floor for the Foster/Slaton and company RBBC (my floor for the team is 430: 200 for Foster, 100 for Slaton, 60 for Schaub and the receivers; 70 for assorted backups/FBs). As I noted earlier, 510 (which is the upside case in my projections) is probably too optimistic, but I could see it happening - I just don't think it is likely. 470-80ish is probably a good bet for the final finish for the entire team, with foster at 225 and Slaton at 125, the rest basically the same.

There is definitely some uncertainty with the turf toe situation, which hasn't been (and won't be) resolved prior to regular season. Koya's best-case for Foster could certainly come true if Slaton is slow to rehab that sore toe (if it is a serious turf toe injury).

It's not that I am hating on Foster, I just don't see a good case for him being a top-12 fantasy RB. I think his upside is RB 2, with a RB 3 finish more likely (I know I'm repeating myself, just want to keep my actual stance on this guy clear).

I'm not really talking about the number of total rushing attempts, I'm more talking about the % split. In 2008 and the beginning of 2009, Houston gave Slaton between 65-70% of all RB carries (and touches). Slaton was the #7 RB in 2008, even with only 432 team rushing attempts. He got 62% of the team rushing attempts in 2008, and was on pace for similar numbers as the starter to begin 2009, but you're only predicting Foster to have around 47% (225/475) of the team rushing attempts this year. Not sure why, when this hasn't been their MO the last two seasons. It's possible, I just think it's more likely that barring injury, Foster will get close to 60% of the total team rushing attempts, which gets him around 285 carries using your projected team numbers (which I don't have a problem with, they may actually be a tad high).

I see where your upside projections come from, but I don't see Foster in line for 60% of the TOTAL rushing touches. If he gets there, then obviously he blows the doors off my projections/rankings. I think he gets the lion's share of the RBBC touches (225/420 = ~53.5% for Foster; ~29.7% for Slaton; ~16.9% for "other RBs" ), but the ~60 rushes for QB/WR shouldn't be part of the pool you dip your %'s from, IMO. Look, it's obvious that Foster boosters want to argue the upside case for him. My ranking/projection is more conservative, but it's not a rejection or slight against the guy. I simply think that one preseason game has some people overly optimistic about his chances. The Cowboys, looking forwards to week three/Sept. 26th of the regular season, opted to play totally vanilla schemes and bring the real deal when the game counted. The Texans opted to come at the Cowboys full bore in the preseason and then deal with the consequences of doing so in week three of the regular season. We'll soon see which team was more wise in their approach to competing for the "Governor's Cup".

Why not? I put numbers for both total team rushing attempts and just RB rushing attempts in my post. Slaton got 62% of the TOTAL team rushing attempts in 2008, and started off 2009 on a similar pace until he got injured/sucked. My point is, the Texans have given their lead RB over 60% of the rushing attempts the last two seasons, and now that Foster is the lead RB, I'd expect a similar breakdown. The reason last year's numbers look so broken up is because Slaton started like 10 games, Foster 3, Moats a couple, etc. If you look at the actual game logs, the starting RB averaged over 60% of the carries. Unless you think Foster is going to get injured or lose his job, which is possible, he should receive a higher % than you're projecting IMO.

 

[Koya]

another draft anecdote:12-team, start 1/2/2/1, reasonably normal scoring, mixed skill levels...Foster went at 4.04, at RB18, one pick after Best, and just ahead of McCoy and Wells.

I am thinking this about right in most 12 team leagues.

In my most recent draft he went with the same group of RBs (was end of the 5th for Foster due to the 2QB option in that league so 10+ more QBs went than would normally have gone by that time). McCoy went one pick after, Wells went about 10 after but was either the next or the second RB taken after McCoy.

 

[shnikies]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

 

[cr8f]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

He had a great game last week the week before he looked pedestrian to me but if he catches passes I'm OK with him.

 

[humpback]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

Sorry you missed out on him in your draft(s).

 

[cr8f]

If Kubiak can get a running game going, the likes of what we saw in Week 16 and 17 last season, and versus Dallas last Saturday, expect Schuab's numbers to decline.Kubiak wants to run.

I figure Kubiak wants to win. His 2 best skill players on offense are Johnson and Schaub. Those are the guys who'll be featured in the offense and I doubt their numbers take a significant hit (barring injury or offensive line problems).

Unless those woes cause injury.

 

[shnikies]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

Sorry you missed out on him in your draft(s).

Yeah, it's ok. I was targeting him for round 9 as my RB5 with RB3 upside but somebody took him in round 3 so I was left with Jahvid Best in round 3 as my RB2 with top 5 potential.

 

[humpback]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

Sorry you missed out on him in your draft(s).

Yeah, it's ok. I was targeting him for round 9 as my RB5 with RB3 upside but somebody took him in round 3 so I was left with Jahvid Best in round 3 as my RB2 with top 5 potential.

No worries- NFL network is replaying the game tomorrow at 9 a.m. EST in case you want to check it out. He's no Jim Brown, but I find it hard to believe you watched the game and came away thinking he's garbage.

 

[jon_mx]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

Sorry you missed out on him in your draft(s).

Yeah, it's ok. I was targeting him for round 9 as my RB5 with RB3 upside but somebody took him in round 3 so I was left with Jahvid Best in round 3 as my RB2 with top 5 potential.

Best is a steal in round 3. He is this years Ray Rice.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

I'm guessing Kubiak has seen him run and I'd also guess his opinion matters most.

 

[shnikies]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

I'm guessing Kubiak has seen him run and I'd also guess his opinion matters most.

Crazy Gary? He hasn't made up his mind on what to wear to his high school prom.

 

[elmanx]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

Sorry you missed out on him in your draft(s).

Yeah, it's ok. I was targeting him for round 9 as my RB5 with RB3 upside but somebody took him in round 3 so I was left with Jahvid Best in round 3 as my RB2 with top 5 potential.

Best is a steal in round 3. He is this years Ray Rice.

Even Ray Rice wasn't Ray Rice in his rookie year.

 

[shnikies]

I would like to see a show of hands of many people are talking up Arian Foster without ever seeing him carry the ball. You are all going to be sorely disappointed.

Sorry you missed out on him in your draft(s).

Yeah, it's ok. I was targeting him for round 9 as my RB5 with RB3 upside but somebody took him in round 3 so I was left with Jahvid Best in round 3 as my RB2 with top 5 potential.

Best is a steal in round 3. He is this years Ray Rice.

Even Ray Rice wasn't Ray Rice in his rookie year.

This will end up getting off topic. I'm not the one comparing him to Ray Rice and I'm still not but Ray Rice touched the ball 140 times his rookie year and Jahvid Best is going to be the featured back. There's a little bit of a difference in situations.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Just an FYI: he went in the mid SECOND round in my draft this afternoon. This is a bandwagon of Finley-esque proportions.

 

[Zegras11]

He went 2.12 in FPC draft tonight

That gave me D.Williams at 3.3

 

[Tango]

I figure Kubiak wants to win. His 2 best skill players on offense are Johnson and Schaub. Those are the guys who'll be featured in the offense and I doubt their numbers take a significant hit (barring injury or offensive line problems).

Go back and watch the pressers after Schaub's biggest games. GK didnt want to pass as much as they did last year and he made it clear. Even when it was successful and carrying them, he always went out of his way to say they need to run more immediately after the games. Coaches like Mike Martz would never go out of their way to say such things. They ran only 40.7% of the time last year. If Foster/the run game is successful, that number will move to 43 or 44%. That 4% delta is around 3 pass attempts per game which equates to a decrease of about 20 passing yards per game.

 

[PatsFanCT]

I got Foster at the end of the 5th (11th pick) last night, and best at the end of the 3rd. Although my big money league drafts this Sunday and has much bigger sharks in it, but if he lasts to the 5th again, I'll take him again.

 

[jdoggydogg]

He went 2.12 in FPC draft tonight That gave me D.Williams at 3.3

That is insane. I own both players, but I'd take DeAngelo over Spiller right now.

 

[gethugefast1]

He went 2.12 in FPC draft tonight

That gave me D.Williams at 3.3

That is insane. I own both players, but I'd take DeAngelo over Spiller right now.

Monday Draft (08/30/10). 10 Team League. (see signature for league rules)1. (1) Adrian Peterson RB

2. (20) Randy Moss WR

3. (21) DeAngelo Williams RB

4. (40) Jahvid Best RB

5. (41) Arian Foster RB

6. (60) Steve Smith (CAR) WR

7. (61) Joseph Addai RB

8. (80) Jay Cutler QB

9. (81) Pierre Garcon WR

10. (100) Clinton Portis RB

11. (101) Santana Moss WR

12. (120) Jabar Gaffney WR

13. (121) Miami DEF

14. (140) Matt Prater K

 

[jdoggydogg]

He went 2.12 in FPC draft tonight

That gave me D.Williams at 3.3

That is insane. I own both players, but I'd take DeAngelo over Spiller right now.

Monday Draft (08/30/10). 10 Team League. (see signature for league rules)1. (1) Adrian Peterson RB

2. (20) Randy Moss WR

3. (21) DeAngelo Williams RB

4. (40) Jahvid Best RB

5. (41) Arian Foster RB

6. (60) Steve Smith (CAR) WR

7. (61) Joseph Addai RB

8. (80) Jay Cutler QB

9. (81) Pierre Garcon WR

10. (100) Clinton Portis RB

11. (101) Santana Moss WR

12. (120) Jabar Gaffney WR

13. (121) Miami DEF

14. (140) Matt Prater K

Whoops. I confused the Foster thread with the Spiller thread.Nice late Gaffney pick. He should be a monster this year.

 

[humpback]

J. Johnson has a dislocated toe, Slaton questionable for week 1 with turf toe.

Kubiak:

Toe problems: Running back Jeremiah Johnson, who got his first start on Thursday, left the game in the second quarter with a dislocated toe.

Starter Arian Foster (rest) and backup Steve Slaton (toe injury) did not play against the Bucs, leaving Chris Henry as the lone running back standing after Johnson's injury. Henry finished with 51 rushing yards on 16 attempts.

Johnson had averaged 5.4 yards per carry in the first three preseason games, moving up to third on the depth chart behind Foster and Slaton.

"We've got issues," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. "Steve is out, we're hoping he's ready to go against Indianapolis. Jeremiah looks like he's going to miss some time. Chris, I'll have to go back and see how he played. I've got one healthy running back right now, two counting Chris, on this football team. We'll see where we're at. It's going to be day to day

 

[Kenny Powers]

Landed Foster at 42nd overall yesterday and got multiple people angry about it. Think I got great value on him, even if he isnt as good as some in here think, as the next few RBs to go off the board were Beanie, Bradshaw, and Felix Jones and I like Foster a ton more then all of them.

 

[SWC]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

 

[facook]

Figuring if I want him in my draft tonight he'll have to be taken at 4.10 or I won't get him, if he isn't already gone. On a similar note, the Jermichael Finley bandwagon probably means I'd have to take him at 5.3 or he'll be gone (TE NOT required). Trying to decide if either is worth that value. I'd say yes on Foster, no on Finley at this point.

 

[Mario Kart]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

 

[SWC]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

I just try to help people out and make sure that they are using analogies that make sense so that someone quickly glancing at a thread won't get the wrong idea and draft someone they don't really want.

 

[The Goose is Loose]

I had 2 drafts yesterday -

Foster went 3.12 in my 12 team PPR league (mostly sharks)

I took Foster at 3.10 in my 12 team .5 PPR (guppies and sharks). I was sitting next to the guy picking 11th and he said he was going to take him if I didn't.

Moral of the story here. Foster is no longer a secret. If you want him, be prepared to give up a 3rd/early 4th round pick for him.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

I just try to help people out and make sure that they are using analogies that make sense so that someone quickly glancing at a thread won't get the wrong idea and draft someone they don't really want.

I hope that you aren't using analogies because I think those analogies are poised to take a big hit and not be nearly the analogies they have been for the past several years which would end up meaning that you would also not be a good investment using the theory of analogies.

 

[LTF]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol.

If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

 

[icehouse]

I took Foster at 4.07 last night. I highly doubt he would have made it back to me in the 5th. He went at 3.01 in my draft last Sunday. He went at 12.09 in a draft the week before Tate went down. 

 

[PatsFanCT]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol. If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

Nice , but this isn't your fathers Detroit Lions.

 

[shnikies]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol. If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

I'm not sure who said Best is this year's Ray Rice, but if he is, I'm guessing the Lions win more than 4 games.This is about Foster, though, and I like him in the RB15-20 range. He's a solid RB2. I like him more than Wells, McCoy and Moreno who are ahead of him in ESPN's ADP.

 

[Doug B]

Jealous of you guys that were able to get Foster after the second round. As I posted before, I had to take him at the 16th pick overall (12 team draft) last weekend.

In another 12-team money redraft on the 5th, I let him go by at #16 overall only to watch Foster get snapped up two picks later (right after Mendenhall, right ahead of C Benson and R Grant). Was hoping to get him at 3.09, but there was no chance.

In the two money redrafts I'm in, Foster is basically being treated as a totally legit FFB RB1.

 

[shnikies]

Jealous of you guys that were able to get Foster after the second round. As I posted before, I had to take him at the 16th pick overall (12 team draft) last weekend.In another 12-team money redraft on the 5th, I let him go by at #16 overall only to watch Foster get snapped up two picks later (right after Mendenhall, right ahead of C Benson and R Grant). Was hoping to get him at 3.09, but there was no chance.In the two money redrafts I'm in, Foster is basically being treated as a totally legit FFB RB1.

Taking him ahead of Benson and Grant is absurd IMO. Some may want a guy with a speculated role over a guy that's posted two 1200 yard seasons but I don't.

 

[red]

agreed. benson and grant may not be flashy pics, but they will perform consistently (ala rudy johnson)...nevertheless, i like foster (and his ceiling) before guys like

mccoy

moreno

mendenhall (i'm just down on him)

wells

forte

charles

stewart

 

[LTF]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol. If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

Nice , but this isn't your fathers Detroit Lions.

Based on what? They won 2 games last season. If Stafford stays healthy and starts 16 games he might lead the NFL in interceptions. They're lacking NFL talent in several areas and have no depth whatsoever. Not to mention the division they play in. Of course, right now no one is predicting any team to finish 2-14 or 3-13, everything is rosey and optimistic. All the bottom dwellers have greatly improved themselves and surely won't be as bad as last season, right? The Lions have improved, the Browns have improved, the Rams have improved, the Chiefs have improved, the Raiders have improved, ect... same story, different year. Where are all those wins coming from? The whole league isn't going to be 9-7 or 10-6, there will be some dominant teams who win 12-13 or more games. Subsequently, there will be a team this season who struggles to win three games, probably a couple to a few of them to be honest. Don't see any reason to believe the Lions won't again be one of the worst teams in the entire NFL. They're much likely to finish with 4 wins or less than they are to win more than 4 games.

 

[shnikies]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol.

If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

Nice , but this isn't your fathers Detroit Lions.

Based on what? They won 2 games last season. If Stafford stays healthy and starts 16 games he might lead the NFL in interceptions. They're lacking NFL talent in several areas and have no depth whatsoever. Not to mention the division they play in. Of course, right now no one is predicting any team to finish 2-14 or 3-13, everything is rosey and optimistic. All the bottom dwellers have greatly improved themselves and surely won't be as bad as last season, right? The Lions have improved, the Browns have improved, the Rams have improved, the Chiefs have improved, the Raiders have improved, ect... same story, different year. Where are all those wins coming from?

The whole league isn't going to be 9-7 or 10-6, there will be some dominant teams who win 12-13 or more games. Subsequently, there will be a team this season who struggles to win three games, probably a couple to a few of them to be honest. Don't see any reason to believe the Lions won't again be one of the worst teams in the entire NFL. They're much likely to finish with 4 wins or less than they are to win more than 4 games.

Since I believe the over/under is 5 wins, there's somebody in Vegas who knows a lot more than you that would disagree.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Taking him ahead of Benson and Grant is absurd IMO. Some may want a guy with a speculated role over a guy that's posted two 1200 yard seasons but I don't.

I like Foster more than Benson this year, easily. For as good as Benson was last year, he only scored 6 times and caught a whopping 17 balls. Meh. Foster should amass the same amount of total yards from scrimmage (if not more), will catch more passes, and will score more. For where I got Benson last year in one league, he was a great value, but for where he is going this year, I avoided him like the plague.

 

[SWC]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

I just try to help people out and make sure that they are using analogies that make sense so that someone quickly glancing at a thread won't get the wrong idea and draft someone they don't really want.

I hope that you aren't using analogies because I think those analogies are poised to take a big hit and not be nearly the analogies they have been for the past several years which would end up meaning that you would also not be a good investment using the theory of analogies.

If someone in a big money league read your post and got confused and ended up drafting the wrong guy, you'd have that on your mind all season long and the feelings of guilt could cause you to make an incorrect roster decision and lose your league. That's karma, and it's just not worth messing around with.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

I just try to help people out and make sure that they are using analogies that make sense so that someone quickly glancing at a thread won't get the wrong idea and draft someone they don't really want.

I hope that you aren't using analogies because I think those analogies are poised to take a big hit and not be nearly the analogies they have been for the past several years which would end up meaning that you would also not be a good investment using the theory of analogies.

If someone in a big money league read your post and got confused and ended up drafting the wrong guy, you'd have that on your mind all season long and the feelings of guilt could cause you to make an incorrect roster decision and lose your league. That's karma, and it's just not worth messing around with.

I would feel simply awful and would just have to find some way to go on.

 

[LTF]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol.

If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

Nice , but this isn't your fathers Detroit Lions.

Based on what? They won 2 games last season. If Stafford stays healthy and starts 16 games he might lead the NFL in interceptions. They're lacking NFL talent in several areas and have no depth whatsoever. Not to mention the division they play in. Of course, right now no one is predicting any team to finish 2-14 or 3-13, everything is rosey and optimistic. All the bottom dwellers have greatly improved themselves and surely won't be as bad as last season, right? The Lions have improved, the Browns have improved, the Rams have improved, the Chiefs have improved, the Raiders have improved, ect... same story, different year. Where are all those wins coming from?

The whole league isn't going to be 9-7 or 10-6, there will be some dominant teams who win 12-13 or more games. Subsequently, there will be a team this season who struggles to win three games, probably a couple to a few of them to be honest. Don't see any reason to believe the Lions won't again be one of the worst teams in the entire NFL. They're much likely to finish with 4 wins or less than they are to win more than 4 games.

Since I believe the over/under is 5 wins, there's somebody in Vegas who knows a lot more than you that would disagree.

Is that supposed to be a serious point?The lines in Vegas simply reflect the general views of the betting public. That's what they're shaped and formed by.

Don't really get your point here. I could care less what the voting public thinks and how that's reflected in an over/under line.

 

[SWC]

I would feel simply awful and would just have to find some way to go on.

Exactamundo. Think how much better it would be without that hanging over your head.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol. If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

Nice , but this isn't your fathers Detroit Lions.

Based on what? They won 2 games last season. If Stafford stays healthy and starts 16 games he might lead the NFL in interceptions. They're lacking NFL talent in several areas and have no depth whatsoever. Not to mention the division they play in. Of course, right now no one is predicting any team to finish 2-14 or 3-13, everything is rosey and optimistic. All the bottom dwellers have greatly improved themselves and surely won't be as bad as last season, right? The Lions have improved, the Browns have improved, the Rams have improved, the Chiefs have improved, the Raiders have improved, ect... same story, different year. Where are all those wins coming from? The whole league isn't going to be 9-7 or 10-6, there will be some dominant teams who win 12-13 or more games. Subsequently, there will be a team this season who struggles to win three games, probably a couple to a few of them to be honest. Don't see any reason to believe the Lions won't again be one of the worst teams in the entire NFL. They're much likely to finish with 4 wins or less than they are to win more than 4 games.

Stafford has a year under his belt and Megatron is in his prime, their O-line is improved and Best will have plenty of room to run since they can't put 8 in the box to stop him. Best could easily finish top ten in the league if things go well.

 

[shnikies]

Gotta love the people bashing Arian Foster while at the same time throwing out how Jahvid Best has top five back potential and is this year's Ray Rice... have fun drafting RB's from the Lions is all I can say. Kevin Smith, Brian Calhoun, and Kevin Jones all want to say hello and let you know what a big part they played in helping people win fantasy titles, lol.

If you think a RB on a team that might win 4 games is "this year's Ray Rice" I don't know what to tell you.

Nice , but this isn't your fathers Detroit Lions.

Based on what? They won 2 games last season. If Stafford stays healthy and starts 16 games he might lead the NFL in interceptions. They're lacking NFL talent in several areas and have no depth whatsoever. Not to mention the division they play in. Of course, right now no one is predicting any team to finish 2-14 or 3-13, everything is rosey and optimistic. All the bottom dwellers have greatly improved themselves and surely won't be as bad as last season, right? The Lions have improved, the Browns have improved, the Rams have improved, the Chiefs have improved, the Raiders have improved, ect... same story, different year. Where are all those wins coming from?

The whole league isn't going to be 9-7 or 10-6, there will be some dominant teams who win 12-13 or more games. Subsequently, there will be a team this season who struggles to win three games, probably a couple to a few of them to be honest. Don't see any reason to believe the Lions won't again be one of the worst teams in the entire NFL. They're much likely to finish with 4 wins or less than they are to win more than 4 games.

Since I believe the over/under is 5 wins, there's somebody in Vegas who knows a lot more than you that would disagree.

Is that supposed to be a serious point?The lines in Vegas simply reflect the general views of the betting public. That's what they're shaped and formed by.

Don't really get your point here. I could care less what the voting public thinks and how that's reflected in an over/under line.

The linesmaker doesn't take public perception into account, the bookmaker shifts lines to balance sides. At least that's what I remember being told, I'm not a big gambler. The point is you said they're much more likely to finish with 4 wins or less when in fact, they're more likely to finish with more.

 

[Mario Kart]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

I just try to help people out and make sure that they are using analogies that make sense so that someone quickly glancing at a thread won't get the wrong idea and draft someone they don't really want.

I hope that you aren't using analogies because I think those analogies are poised to take a big hit and not be nearly the analogies they have been for the past several years which would end up meaning that you would also not be a good investment using the theory of analogies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

 

[SWC]

You better hope that he isn't fantasy gold because I think that gold is poised to take a bit hit and not be nearly the investment vehicle it has been for the past several years which would end up meaning that Foster would also not be a good investment using the theory of anaologies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

I just try to help people out and make sure that they are using analogies that make sense so that someone quickly glancing at a thread won't get the wrong idea and draft someone they don't really want.

I hope that you aren't using analogies because I think those analogies are poised to take a big hit and not be nearly the analogies they have been for the past several years which would end up meaning that you would also not be a good investment using the theory of analogies.

Woah!!!! You just blew my mind with this. What a spot on posting this is.

You and me must be on the same wavelength. I hope that I am never in the same Yahoo! public league with you or we'll tie for the championship and everyone wll accuse us of collusion which may hurt our mutual reputations on the Yahoo! universe.