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Lobary said:
Franknbeans said:
I know, I watched last season as Slaton fumbled and then sat for 3+ quarters. Me no likey Kubiak.
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Was this after you traded for him in week 6 or so, because he had an awfully long leash up until the mid point of the season. He'd fumbled in six of the Texans first eight games and still continued to get ample touches. It wasn't until the Buffalo game in week 8 that Slaton's role in the offense changed dramatically.
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I think there are two different issues here that are contributing to arguments on what Kubiak's "style" is for handling fumbling.Issue 1: Was Steve Slaton immediately yanked as soon as he started fumbling? Answer: No, it took a few games and fumbles before he got pulled.Issue 2: After Kubiak pulled Slaton, did he then show a short leash the rest of the season for everyone who fumbled? Answer: Pretty much, yes. Moats got yanked from the Seahawks game after 1 fumble, Foster from the Rams game after 1 fumble, and Moats only got 1 more touch after fumbling against the Patriots.So given those two issues, the question that really pertains to Foster is... will Kubiak go back to having a longer leash for fumbling, as he did in the first half of 2009 with Slaton... or will he continue on with having a short leash as he did at the end of 2009? And I think no one, maybe even Gary Kubiak, really knows the answer to that for sure, though we all probably have opinions.I think at the least, people need to approach the situation with the knowledge there is a fair possibility that Kubiak may continue with a short leash. I'm a Foster owner in both of my leagues and whenever I have a roster spot where a Texans backup is in the running for it, he wins anything close to a tie unless I have great RB depth.
 
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Pots said:
Cold Dead Hands said:
This thread seemed familiar to me, but I could not put my finger on it. Then I began substituting different names in for Foster. Names like Selvin Young, Ryan Torain, Quentin Griffin, Reuben Droughns, Mike Anderson... Now I know where I've seen this thread before.
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Since when did the Texans play in Denver or have Shanny?
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take a peek at kubiak's work history.
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To be fair Mike Anderson had a couple productive seasons...but man the Quentin Griffin thing was hilarious
 
34=Sweetness said:
ready5 said:
Pots said:
Cold Dead Hands said:
This thread seemed familiar to me, but I could not put my finger on it. Then I began substituting different names in for Foster. Names like Selvin Young, Ryan Torain, Quentin Griffin, Reuben Droughns, Mike Anderson... Now I know where I've seen this thread before.
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Since when did the Texans play in Denver or have Shanny?
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take a peek at kubiak's work history.
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To be fair Mike Anderson had a couple productive seasons...but man the Quentin Griffin thing was hilarious
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What Griffin thing?
 
Does anyone know which two running backs led the NFL in fumbles lost last year?

#1. Steve Slaton

#2. Adrian Peterson

Peterson was the #1 overall with 16 fumbles to Slaton's 11.

What does this tell us? No, Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson. But Peterson isn't going to lose his job because of his fumble history. So the obvious statement to infer from these numbers is that if Foster plays well, he will keep the job as long as he isn't fumbling constantly.

 
jdoggydogg said:
Does anyone know which two running backs led the NFL in fumbles lost last year?#1. Steve Slaton#2. Adrian PetersonPeterson was the #1 overall with 16 fumbles to Slaton's 11.What does this tell us? No, Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson. But Peterson isn't going to lose his job because of his fumble history. So the obvious statement to infer from these numbers is that if Foster plays well, he will keep the job as long as he isn't fumbling constantly.
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You just compared Arian Foster to Adrian Peterson.That's funny.
 
GregR said:
Lobary said:
Franknbeans said:
I know, I watched last season as Slaton fumbled and then sat for 3+ quarters. Me no likey Kubiak.
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Was this after you traded for him in week 6 or so, because he had an awfully long leash up until the mid point of the season. He'd fumbled in six of the Texans first eight games and still continued to get ample touches. It wasn't until the Buffalo game in week 8 that Slaton's role in the offense changed dramatically.
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I think there are two different issues here that are contributing to arguments on what Kubiak's "style" is for handling fumbling.Issue 1: Was Steve Slaton immediately yanked as soon as he started fumbling? Answer: No, it took a few games and fumbles before he got pulled.Issue 2: After Kubiak pulled Slaton, did he then show a short leash the rest of the season for everyone who fumbled? Answer: Pretty much, yes. Moats got yanked from the Seahawks game after 1 fumble, Foster from the Rams game after 1 fumble, and Moats only got 1 more touch after fumbling against the Patriots.So given those two issues, the question that really pertains to Foster is... will Kubiak go back to having a longer leash for fumbling, as he did in the first half of 2009 with Slaton... or will he continue on with having a short leash as he did at the end of 2009? And I think no one, maybe even Gary Kubiak, really knows the answer to that for sure, though we all probably have opinions.I think at the least, people need to approach the situation with the knowledge there is a fair possibility that Kubiak may continue with a short leash. I'm a Foster owner in both of my leagues and whenever I have a roster spot where a Texans backup is in the running for it, he wins anything close to a tie unless I have great RB depth.
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Fair points, but you've overlooked a key issue -- how does Gary Kubiak react to fumbles at the running back position when he believe he has a clear RB1?Given what we saw in OTAs and the preseason, especially the game against the Cowboys, I don't think there is much doubt about where Arian Foster fits on the depth chart. He is the starter and has been since they told him during OTAs that he'd be running with the 1s. When Gary Kubiak thinks he's found his definite starting running back, that guy that separates himself from the others on the depth chart, he sticks with him just as he did with Slaton last year. Remember, Foster was an undrafted rookie who spent most of last year on the practice squad and didn't get his first touch until wk 14, so we really shouldn't draw any conclusions about how Kubiak will react based on that fumble against St Louis in week 15. Kubiak employed a RB rotation that game and even had all three backs (Brown, Moats, Foster) get touches on the first possession of the game. The lesson here imo is that it will take multiple games of fumbling for Foster to get the Slaton treatment. This Foster owner is more concerned that he loses touches due to ineffectiveness or injury than putting the ball on the ground.
 
Christo said:
jdoggydogg said:
Does anyone know which two running backs led the NFL in fumbles lost last year?

#1. Steve Slaton

#2. Adrian Peterson

Peterson was the #1 overall with 16 fumbles to Slaton's 11.

What does this tell us? No, Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson. But Peterson isn't going to lose his job because of his fumble history. So the obvious statement to infer from these numbers is that if Foster plays well, he will keep the job as long as he isn't fumbling constantly.
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You just compared Arian Foster to Adrian Peterson.That's funny.
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Interesting that you decided to infer that from my post when I said specifically: "Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson." Foster isn't in the same universe as Peterson.
 
jdoggydogg said:
Christo said:
jdoggydogg said:
Does anyone know which two running backs led the NFL in fumbles lost last year?

#1. Steve Slaton

#2. Adrian Peterson

Peterson was the #1 overall with 16 fumbles to Slaton's 11.

What does this tell us? No, Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson. But Peterson isn't going to lose his job because of his fumble history. So the obvious statement to infer from these numbers is that if Foster plays well, he will keep the job as long as he isn't fumbling constantly.
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You just compared Arian Foster to Adrian Peterson.That's funny.
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Interesting that you decided to infer that from my post when I said specifically: "Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson." Foster isn't in the same universe as Peterson.
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Actually he's in the same paragraph.
 
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Christo said:
jdoggydogg said:
Does anyone know which two running backs led the NFL in fumbles lost last year?#1. Steve Slaton#2. Adrian PetersonPeterson was the #1 overall with 16 fumbles to Slaton's 11.What does this tell us? No, Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson. But Peterson isn't going to lose his job because of his fumble history. So the obvious statement to infer from these numbers is that if Foster plays well, he will keep the job as long as he isn't fumbling constantly.
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You just compared Arian Foster to Adrian Peterson.That's funny.
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no he didnt. learn to read.
 
thehornet said:
Christo said:
jdoggydogg said:
Does anyone know which two running backs led the NFL in fumbles lost last year?#1. Steve Slaton#2. Adrian PetersonPeterson was the #1 overall with 16 fumbles to Slaton's 11.What does this tell us? No, Arian Foster is no Adrian Peterson. But Peterson isn't going to lose his job because of his fumble history. So the obvious statement to infer from these numbers is that if Foster plays well, he will keep the job as long as he isn't fumbling constantly.
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You just compared Arian Foster to Adrian Peterson.That's funny.
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no he didnt. learn to read.
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:goodposting:
 
Lobary said:
...Fair points, but you've overlooked a key issue -- how does Gary Kubiak react to fumbles at the running back position when he believe he has a clear RB1?Given what we saw in OTAs and the preseason, especially the game against the Cowboys, I don't think there is much doubt about where Arian Foster fits on the depth chart. He is the starter and has been since they told him during OTAs that he'd be running with the 1s. When Gary Kubiak thinks he's found his definite starting running back, that guy that separates himself from the others on the depth chart, he sticks with him just as he did with Slaton last year. Remember, Foster was an undrafted rookie who spent most of last year on the practice squad and didn't get his first touch until wk 14, so we really shouldn't draw any conclusions about how Kubiak will react based on that fumble against St Louis in week 15. Kubiak employed a RB rotation that game and even had all three backs (Brown, Moats, Foster) get touches on the first possession of the game. The lesson here imo is that it will take multiple games of fumbling for Foster to get the Slaton treatment. This Foster owner is more concerned that he loses touches due to ineffectiveness or injury than putting the ball on the ground.
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I don't think that is something I've overlooked. I'm just not willing to say that stance is definitively correct as you are, and to the level you imply. Kubiak has publicly stated what his RB philosophy is, and that involves splitting carries. He's got 2 guys that in the last 12 months he felt were a "clear RB1". When Slaton or whoever is backing him up is getting 1/3 or more of the carreis as Kubes has stated his philosophy is... it's not that hard to switch the ratio if the backup is out playing the starter, especially when it comes to putting it on the turf.My point is that anyone who thinks Foster doesn't have a shorter leash than normal is probably wrong, and likely so is anyone who thinks he's yanked on the very first fumble. It's probably somewhere in the middle. If Foster fumbles at the rate Slaton did, for example, I can't see any way that he lasts as long as Slaton did last year... and he probably won't last 1/2 as long as that.And that is something you need to account for when putting your roster together with Foster as a contributor.
 
Anyone out there a little concerned about Slaton sapping Foster's value in the passing game?

(TheHuddle) Houston Texans RB Steve Slaton (toe) fully participated in practice Thursday, Sept. 9. Analysis: Slaton told reporters, "I'm good." He's been practicing all week and appears ready to assume the No. 2 role behind Arian Foster. "I feel like my role might be a third-down guy catching passes and catching screens and everything, but whatever it is, I'm going to take full advantage of it," added Slaton.

 
the spanker said:
Anyone out there a little concerned about Slaton sapping Foster's value in the passing game?(TheHuddle) Houston Texans RB Steve Slaton (toe) fully participated in practice Thursday, Sept. 9. Analysis: Slaton told reporters, "I'm good." He's been practicing all week and appears ready to assume the No. 2 role behind Arian Foster. "I feel like my role might be a third-down guy catching passes and catching screens and everything, but whatever it is, I'm going to take full advantage of it," added Slaton.
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It may happen. Just like it may for Shonn Greene, Ryan Grant, Ryan Mathews, Michael Turner, Adrian Peterson and a number of other primary backs.
 
Please elaborate for those of us fortunate enough to draft this kid, yet unfortunate enough to watch this kid on a weekly basis...

:excited: :popcorn:

 
Tony Jabroni said:
Please elaborate for those of us fortunate enough to draft this kid, yet unfortunate enough to watch this kid on a weekly basis... :bag: :goodposting:
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100 and a touch in 3 qrtrs. Texans get a lead and come out in the 2nd half putting the ball in Fosters hands. He responds with about 5 yds a carry march down the field and he puts it in while getting all the carries inside the 10.Slaton giving him a breather on occasion, cop back and it's all good. Cant type anymore gotta watch.
 
For those not watching...

HOU caused a fumble around their own 5 yard line. They give the ball to Foster who breaks one out to midfield. He comes out for a breather for a few plays and then goes back in and takes it into the endzone from about the 30. Announcers are going gaga over Foster.

 
What's been impressive about Foster, besides his long runs, is his ability to finish off his 4-5 yard runs up the middle. This guy is going to be a handful for any defense.

 
ponchsox said:
Wow. I thought Foster would have a nice game, but I don't think anyone imagined this. Lookout Chris Johnson!
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:thumbup: One thing I noticed last year is the team blocked better(or his running style fit the scheme better) when he was in there.
 
I love it. Indi cant stop him and they KNOW he is getting the ball.

Punishing.

..and as i type that...

TOUCHDOWN!

And to Avery, i think this tells you how little they trust Slaton.

 
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i love that someone who had made 10 transactions in a week in the preseason sniped me when i picked up anthony dixon with my only transaction

 
only negative for me is that i own matt schaub as well, was hoping he could do a forte, take a pass and go for the long score, but i guess if you're gonna hold schaub's stats down, 200+ yards, 3 tds will do.

 
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