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Article In The Atlantic: Legalizing Sports Gambling Was A Huge Mistake (3 Viewers)


Tim Donaghy on PBD podcast saying this scandal is only at the beginning. He claims someone from the FBI said the NBA wont be able to cover this one up like they did with his case.

I know that I believe Stern covered something up but what is that loopy fella claiming?
 

Tim Donaghy on PBD podcast saying this scandal is only at the beginning. He claims someone from the FBI said the NBA wont be able to cover this one up like they did with his case.

I know that I believe Stern covered something up but what is that loopy fella claiming?
That there were 5 or 6 other people who should have gone down with him, but the person leading the FBI investigation didn't bring charges. That person since landed a job a law firm that gets the NBAs legal work.
 

Tim Donaghy on PBD podcast saying this scandal is only at the beginning. He claims someone from the FBI said the NBA wont be able to cover this one up like they did with his case.

Is it really an NBA case though? Initial reports make it sound like Billups was the involved in rigging poker games (Operation: Full House or something like that). The two former players were a by-catch I think. I'm not even sure I've heard how the two things overlapped or were connected.

Speaking of that... has anybody seen the perp walks and mug shots of the 31 other arrestees? These high-ranking members of the La Cosa Nostra. I was looking around but all I keep seeing are the three dudes from the NBA, a bunch of mob stories from the 1980s, and the movie trailer for Goodfella's.
 
Clase’s MLB career over because he placed prop bets on himself.

Unbelievable.

Unconfirmed but a strong strong rumor he is done pitching in MLB.

Get ready for a lot of this garbage.

Have to. Baseball might make it.

Basketball jumped the shark when Stern closed the Donaghy investigation and refused to extend it.

Football is in serious trouble and everybody here that is here for football is going to feel this badly and intimately if they don't get it together.

I said in the Shark Pool that Isaiah Rodgers, MN cornerback, he of the pick-six and then forced fumble, fumble recovery, and return for his second touchdown of the day in the first half alone against Cincinnati this past Sept. 21—not to mention his 145 return yards in that half to go along with those two scores that he and only he was really physically responsible for!—well, he met with a curious press after his game and the next day things were written about him. An incredible performance, right? Well, friends, read these. You would think that his career had begun in Philly and the Vikes—your Vikes!—just signed him as a free agent! Rejoice!

The New York Times, the paper of record, wrote about it:


Minnesota Star Tribune, the local paper, wrote extensively about it


Then it went national

Newsweek covered it!


CBS News did!


Fox News! Let's get everybody on the spectrum here!


Or you could have been me during the game thinking about draft picks and all sorts of weird thoughts while watching it.

Did anybody ever notice that MN corner this year against Cincinnati? The pick-six and then the forced fumble, scoop, and score? That dude?

Did y’all know that that guy—that particular CB, Isaiah Rodgers—had been suspended for an entire year by the NFL for gambling not just on the NFL, but for gambling on his own team?? He was released by the Colts for betting prop bets on his teammates and a bet came from his account that bet a grand on a prop bet for Jonathan Taylor's rushing over/under, which is something he either denies or doesn't because the reporter never clarifies what the reporter is asking or what Rodgers's weirdly-worded answer means.

Anyway, he was suspended for a full year for wagering on an event he was participating in. Nobody said peep one about it that I knew of, and they were giving a background story at some of the sites and in some of the media outlets. Not a word. Didn't they know this?

So what did ESPN say about it? The Worldwide Leader In Sports?

Well, they've covered this story. Big story.


"Rodgers also said he understands the inevitable questions that will arise when people consider the reasons behind his suspension -- like whether he ever altered the outcome of a game because of a bet.

"I studied too hard and too long and worked too hard to even get to this position to go out there and say, 'I'm going to make this guy catch the ball and score a touchdown on me just for $25, $50 bets.' Nah, that's not even the type of person I am.'" - John Barr, ESPN, 2/1/2024

My personal opinion (and it might be just me) is that he sounded both vague and slightly dismissive of the seriousness of it, even though he did take full responsibility and acknowledged the problem and seemed to get the gravity of it up until his explanations, which sounded weird, vague, strangely-worded, and thus evasive to me. I actually blame the reporter, who needs to clarify even if the reporter seems or sounds uncool because they don't understand the slang or they have cross-cultural confusion with language and idiom.


So what does ESPN do about the feature they ran on that day, which is linked above? Well, they said this.

"Rodgers, a sixth-round pick in the 2020 draft by the Indianapolis Colts, spent three seasons as a reserve before he was suspended in 2023 for violating the NFL's gambling policy. He signed with the Philadelphia Eagles for the 2024 season, when he was a part-time player with nine starts, before the Vikings signed him in March." Kevin Siefert, ESPN.com, 9/21/2025

Ah, I see. Well at least they mentioned it. But does that capture the gravity of betting on your own contests? It sounds like they're reporting a traffic citation that had no mens rea.

Anyway, ESPN reported that his Minnesota teammates were "lost for words" when they were asked to describe his feat. They hadn't seen anything like it, they said. Oh, "lost for words," huh? Well, my droogies, so was I that day reading the papers.
 
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The Turkish Football Federation (TFF) and İstanbul prosecutors have launched separate investigations against more than 150 professional referees for allegedly placing bets, including 22 officials from the country’s top-tier Süper Lig.

An internal investigation within the federation found that 371 out of 571 active referees across professional leagues held betting accounts, and 152 were actively involved in gambling, TFF President İbrahim Hacıosmanoğlu announced today at a pressconference at the federations's headquarters in İstanbul. Among the top-tier officials, seven were referees and 15 were assistant referees.

“We have started by cleaning up our own house,” Hacıosmanoğlu remarked. “The referee community, which is both the pride and the problem area of Turkish football, was our starting point.”

Systematic gambling​

The data, gathered in cooperation with government agencies and professional analysts, indicated that betting activity ranged from isolated instances to systematic gambling, according to the president. “One referee placed bets 18,227 times. Ten referees placed bets exceeding 10,000 liras, and 42 referees bet on more than 1,000 different matches.”

Disciplinary proceedings will begin immediately, according to the TFF. Hacıosmanoğlu said the referees would be referred to the disciplinary board and sanctioned in accordance with federation guidelines.

He also confirmed that the investigation’s findings had been shared with FIFA and UEFA.

“We began with referees. That includes myself and my executive board. We’ve also been reviewed through the same channels. We will share those results too,” he said. “Just as we are cleaning up our own doorstep as the TFF, the rest of the football community, especially club presidents, should do the same, starting with themselves and their boards, and including their players.”

Criminal investigation​

Separately, the İstanbul Chief Public Prosecutor’s Office has been investigating betting allegations involving referees since April, according to public broadcaster TRT Haber.

Under Article 11 of Law No. 6222 on Prevention of Violence and Disorder in Sports, anyone found to have offered profit or advantage to influence the result of a sporting event can face one to three years in prison and a fine of up to 20,000 judicial days.

Even reaching an agreement on such gain is enough to constitute a crime. If the offense is committed to manipulate betting outcomes, the sentence is increased by half.


Turkey investigates over 150 referees for active betting, including Süper Lig officials Some 42 referees placed bets on over 1,000 matches each, with one referee alone wagering more than 18,000 times, according to the football federation.
 
Pablo Torre on Breaking Points discussing the recent events with gambling and NBA.


Highlights:
-Other names involved with the poker in some way: Kevin Garnett, Ty Lue, & Antonio Gates
-NBA knew the gambling risk to it's brand, accepted it and actively downplays it
-NBA cleared Rozier of wrongdoing after an internal investigation
-Miami Heat are upset with the NBA over the Rozier trade
-Not many journalist willing to investigate NBA/GAMBLING due to all the revenue generated from gambling... i.e. big money legalized gambling has tainted the media coverage of gambling

Finally goes on to cover the K. Leonard issue of circumventing the salary cap. His sources confirmed it happened and its too quiet from Adam Silver to think the right thing is being done. He also goes on to talk about how sports franchise owners are some of the richest people in the world and this finding new ways to get money to players may continue.
 
Defector weighs in

This was buried in the article but I think important.

Addiction, and not the odd $15 thrown around here or there, is the true engine of the sports gambling economy, which I think is a critical fact to establish when discussing every league and big-time media shop's gleeful partnership with betting companies.

The NBA Media Is Not Built To Cover A Gambling Scandal​

https://defector.com/the-nba-media-is-not-built-to-cover-a-gambling-scandal

Hours after the FBI arrested Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups, and published a pair of indictments detailing the former's alleged involvement in a cooked prop-bet unders scheme and the latter's alleged involvement in a rigged mafia poker game, the sports-watching public turned to sports media to help make sense of the story. They found a press corps telling them that the probable sudden end of a coach's career and the unearthing of a gambling ring were mere growing pains for an industry just getting its feet under it. Actually, they said, some good might come of this.

"If gambling's gonna be more and more prevalent, we're probably gonna have a couple bad apples," said Bill Simmons the day the story broke. "Everybody's gonna learn how to behave and deal with it." After his guest searched for the word "constrict" for 30 seconds in service of a point about how the gambling companies could solve their problems by simply constricting available prop bets, Simmons noted, "We've always been doing this. We're more honest about it now. And in the process of being more honest about it, I think there's gonna be a couple hiccups that ultimately, that if we can police all this ... it's gonna be a plus, not a minus."

The idea here is that by bringing gambling out of backrooms and onto smartphones, gambling companies can more accurately detect irregular betting patterns and close off suspicious bets, preserving the integrity of the game, and more importantly, the sanctity of online gambling. This is not dissimilar from the ways other corners of NBA media covered the story. Zach Lowe had ESPN's betting guy David Purdum on his podcast the same day; the conclusions they reached were that Rozier-esque issues can be tweaked out of existence by reducing prop bets, and that worries about players sharing inside information with people who turn out to be gamblers can be allayed by changing how NBA teams report injuries. Lowe's podcast, like Simmons's, began with a FanDuel ad. These are two particular examples, though they are broadly representative of how the sports media world has handled the story, are indicative of the industry's deadly blind spots. The NBA itself, in a memo sent to teams on Monday, was only willing to suggest "additional scrutiny" on prop bets as a potential solution.

Lowe, unlike Simmons, possesses critical-thinking abilities and is capable of self-reflection, and he at least talked about addiction and named an important contradiction: his own FanDuel ads. His conclusion was simply that "everyone is compromised." He is almost right—can anyone think of a media company not compromised by gambling partnerships?—though the explanation is neither exculpatory nor sufficient to the structural realities of online sports gambling.

Much has been made about sports gambling's takeover of sports media, a nasty marriage enabled by the simultaneous legalization of app-based gambling, now available in 38 states, and the drying-up of media's traditional revenue streams. The first-order concern is that a mass onboarding event of (mostly) young men into the frictionless experience of making a few prop bets and a parlay every other NFL Sunday serves to activate and exploit whatever latent gambling addiction might otherwise go untapped in the population. Addiction, and not the odd $15 thrown around here or there, is the true engine of the sports gambling economy, which I think is a critical fact to establish when discussing every league and big-time media shop's gleeful partnership with betting companies. A very good recent Rolling Stone story highlighted both the harrowing realities of addiction and the alarming prevalence of sports gambling among college-age young men. That alone rebuts the idea that gambling is eternal and inevitable, and that diverting it all onto apps with monitored marketplaces actually protects everyone (or anyone).

The second-order concern, and one far more relevant to this scandal, is that a sports and sports-media world funded by gambling companies is unable to grapple credibly with a story like this. Inherent to claims that problem gambling can be managed away merely by reducing prop bets or changing how injuries are reported is a framing of sports gambling as an immutable law of nature, rather than something millions of people are doing every day now, who previously were not doing it at all, because it is on their phones. There's not even a hint, in any mainstream sports-media conversation about this scandal, that legalized sports gambling may have been a bad idea.

That's an essential prior to have before you move onto the broader and more uncomfortable topic of widespread sports gambling having warped the relationship between game and fan. Basketball on TV is no longer merely an entertainment product, an aesthetic experience, or an exercise in tribalism; it is an interactive experience, a moneymaking platform, something that the gambler is part of—if not something that exists explicitly to facilitate wagering. In every ad for sports gambling, the company will advertise that betting will take the fan inside the action, or bring them closer to the game. That's a fundamentally different sort of experience, and it tracks that people having that experience will develop both a fundamentally different relationship to the game's real participants (as evidenced by the ceaseless harassment players face by stricken gamblers) and a fundamentally different understanding of the purpose of sports. Players are just as inundated with the gambling industry's exhortations to use its products as fans are. Is it any surprise, then, that some of them may have started to see their own jobs as just a means to an end? Games exist, in this mindset, primarily as market opportunities.

One could make a case that sports gambling is simply too entrenched now for the basic question of its appropriateness in society to be worth litigating—that there is no point indulging in optimistic counterfactuals about how things could be better or different were every 21-year-old with an untapped addiction issue not on the verge of losing everything and dropping out of society due to the frictionless ease and constant availability of carrying a casino in their pocket. I would argue that engaging in such counterfactuals is an essential task for writers and professional commentators, that untangling thorny contradictions in the world as it exists and imagining and articulating a better world, one without those compromises, is more or less the job. But diagnosing any of this, or making an argument against sports gambling, is beyond the scope of a sports media largely funded by its audience's predators.

The omnipresence of sports gambling, and its total takeover of big-time sports media, limit the acceptable parameters of conversation and debate. Maybe Lowe, the ESPN guy, and Simmons would all have the exact same takes even if they were not being propped up by the gambling industry, but there's no way of knowing it. Are they hopelessly compromised, or are they only continually allowing themselves to appear that way? Is there any difference?
 

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