Article In The Atlantic: Legalizing Sports Gambling Was A Huge Mistake (2 Viewers)

[John123]

I think we should keep it off the TV and radio. If you can't drop the f bomb or show certain body parts without the FCC up your pooper, then why can you pimp player prop bets?

Well you can drop the f bomb. On cable/sat/streaming. Watch a drama on FX. They have no issues with the F bomb any more. The only place you can't is network TV. So maybe you could limit gambling talk on SNF but not on ESPN.

 

[3 hour lunch]

I’ve sort of come around on this. I’m fine with it being legal, and I do make bets; but Matthew Berry spouting his parlay picks on the SNF pregame just feels so skeezy for some reason. I didn’t feel that way a year or two ago, so not sure if it’s gotten more prevalent or I’m just tired of it

 

[Deepster]

I’ve sort of come around on this. I’m fine with it being legal, and I do make bets; but Matthew Berry spouting his parlay picks on the SNF pregame just feels so skeezy for some reason. I didn’t feel that way a year or two ago, so not sure if it’s gotten more prevalent or I’m just tired of it

I used to keep track of a bunch of guys picks like him to see how often they hit. Uhhhh, they don't.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I’ve sort of come around on this. I’m fine with it being legal, and I do make bets; but Matthew Berry spouting his parlay picks on the SNF pregame just feels so skeezy for some reason. I didn’t feel that way a year or two ago, so not sure if it’s gotten more prevalent or I’m just tired of it

I used to keep track of a bunch of guys picks like him to see how often they hit. Uhhhh, they don't.

Seriously, I can lose my money without their "help".

 

[Joe Bryant]

For the people replying they're tired of the seemingly endless touting and promoting by site and analysts:

Understood. That's the primary reason we have left money on the table not going that route with our content on the Footballguys site.

 

[bostonfred]

For the people replying they're tired of the seemingly endless touting and promoting by site and analysts:

Understood. That's the primary reason we have left money on the table not going that route with our content on the Footballguys site.

Dude you are one of the rare good people who have always consistently put your money where your mouth is on stuff like this. I don't know many people who do.

 

[Joe Bryant]

For the people replying they're tired of the seemingly endless touting and promoting by site and analysts:

Understood. That's the primary reason we have left money on the table not going that route with our content on the Footballguys site.

Dude you are one of the rare good people who have always consistently put your money where your mouth is on stuff like this. I don't know many people who do.

You're kind, GB.

We make plenty of mistakes, but trying to see things long-term has served us well. I have a couple of close friends with gambling addiction problems, and I think that has colored my view on things too.

And of course, putting money into a regular fantasy football home league and getting a payout 4 months later has risks as well. But they seem significantly different from the impulsive challenges with sportsbook betting.

Bottom line, it's complicated. And we don't have any high ground to stand on. I'm just trying to operate this the way that seems best. But it has put us at a pretty significant competitive financial disadvantage compared to our primary competitors.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I was unprepared for the visceral reaction I had to Jon Hamm doing a gambling site (is it BetMGM?) commercial. I just remember feeling like he instantly became 80% less cool. Like the only way he could have lost more aura would have been if he'd have said, "I'm Jon Hamm, and I didn't have a going problem, I had a GROWING problem! See your doctor about FloMax!"

 

[Northern Voice]

I think fantasy football is definitely a gateway into prop betting. You're already essentially trying to pick which players will score, get "x" amount of yards, be the top performers for the week anyway, if you have strong convictions on a guy, why not throw some $$ on it. For me it was the logical next step from fantasy, instead of just following your players, you can have action on every game!

 

[Joe Bryant]

I was unprepared for the visceral reaction I had to Jon Hamm doing a gambling site (is it BetMGM?) commercial. I just remember feeling like he instantly became 80% less cool. Like the only way he could have lost more aura would have been if he'd have said, "I'm Jon Hamm, and I didn't have a going problem, I had a GROWING problem! See your doctor about FloMax!"

Thanks. I'm out of touch some there on the celebrity stuff, was there really a strong negative reaction to Hamm for this?

Does Jamie Fox get same?

Others?

Where do you see most of it?

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I was unprepared for the visceral reaction I had to Jon Hamm doing a gambling site (is it BetMGM?) commercial. I just remember feeling like he instantly became 80% less cool. Like the only way he could have lost more aura would have been if he'd have said, "I'm Jon Hamm, and I didn't have a going problem, I had a GROWING problem! See your doctor about FloMax!"

Thanks. I'm out of touch some there on the celebrity stuff, was there really a strong negative reaction to Hamm for this?

Does Jamie Fox get same?

Others?

Where do you see most of it?

No idea what the larger reaction is. I didn't have that type of reaction with Jamie Fox, or Kevin Hart for that matter, because I guess they've always seemed like "try hard" celebs to me? I admit it's weird. Don Draper going to Las Vegas to see the Rat Pack and hitting the tables would seem completely in character. But there's just something way less cool about betting first to score props over an app. It's an aesthetic thing with me.

I do have to admit that I raised my eyebrow at seeing Lebron do it. It's weird seeing an athlete promote a gambling site. We used clutch our pearls at athletes even knowing people associated with gambling.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I was unprepared for the visceral reaction I had to Jon Hamm doing a gambling site (is it BetMGM?) commercial. I just remember feeling like he instantly became 80% less cool. Like the only way he could have lost more aura would have been if he'd have said, "I'm Jon Hamm, and I didn't have a going problem, I had a GROWING problem! See your doctor about FloMax!"

Thanks. I'm out of touch some there on the celebrity stuff, was there really a strong negative reaction to Hamm for this?

Does Jamie Fox get same?

Others?

Where do you see most of it?

No idea what the larger reaction is. I didn't have that type of reaction with Jamie Fox, or Kevin Hart for that matter, because I guess they've always seemed like "try hard" celebs to me? I admit it's weird. Don Draper going to Las Vegas to see the Rat Pack and hitting the tables would seem completely in character. But there's just something way less cool about betting first to score props over an app. It's an aesthetic thing with me.

I do have to admit that I raised my eyebrow at seeing Lebron do it. It's weird seeing an athlete promote a gambling site. We used clutch our pearls at athletes even knowing people associated with gambling.

Thanks. I can see that.

There's a ton of money to be made by the people doing it so I'm sure we'll continue to see more.

 

[kupcho1]

It's an aesthetic thing with me.

It doesn't help that the commercial is terrible.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I was unprepared for the visceral reaction I had to Jon Hamm doing a gambling site (is it BetMGM?) commercial. I just remember feeling like he instantly became 80% less cool. Like the only way he could have lost more aura would have been if he'd have said, "I'm Jon Hamm, and I didn't have a going problem, I had a GROWING problem! See your doctor about FloMax!"

Thanks. I'm out of touch some there on the celebrity stuff, was there really a strong negative reaction to Hamm for this?

Does Jamie Fox get same?

Others?

Where do you see most of it?

No idea what the larger reaction is. I didn't have that type of reaction with Jamie Fox, or Kevin Hart for that matter, because I guess they've always seemed like "try hard" celebs to me? I admit it's weird. Don Draper going to Las Vegas to see the Rat Pack and hitting the tables would seem completely in character. But there's just something way less cool about betting first to score props over an app. It's an aesthetic thing with me.

I do have to admit that I raised my eyebrow at seeing Lebron do it. It's weird seeing an athlete promote a gambling site. We used clutch our pearls at athletes even knowing people associated with gambling.

For the visceral reaction, where did you see that?

 

[dino259]

Parlay bets should be illegal. Too stupid for words.

This. The odds are never in your favor. Even with just 2 or 3 teams.

I am stuck in Wisconsin. They claim we have sports gambling. Kind of but not really. The only place you can gamble on sports is on premise at one of the 2 Indian casinos in either Milwaukee or Green Bay. Lots of stories of people driving over the border and parking somewhere in Illinois to place bets.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Parlay bets should be illegal. Too stupid for words.

Nah.
I killed DraftKings last year with player prop parlays. Now I get no promos from them and when I do they are $5 max bet

 

[Runkle]

Parlay bets should be illegal. Too stupid for words.

Nah.
I killed DraftKings last year with player prop parlays. Not I get no promos from them and when I do they are $5 max bet

This should be illegal.

Banning/limiting people for winning should invalidate their license. I get why a Vegas casino might want to limit taking, say, bets above $500,000 or a few million without vetting/insurance/etc but there should be a level tier for all the non-whales where they have to take your action or close up shop. Period.

 

[Runkle]

Also why these are allowed, horse racing betting is allowed, but poker isn't is the biggest BS there ever was or ever will be. Even tho online poker was killed by the bots (RIP)

 

[Todem]

Clase’s MLB career over because he placed prop bets on himself.

Unbelievable.

Unconfirmed but a strong strong rumor he is done pitching in MLB.

Get ready for a lot of this garbage.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Parlay bets should be illegal. Too stupid for words.

Nah.
I killed DraftKings last year with player prop parlays. Not I get no promos from them and when I do they are $5 max bet

This should be illegal.

Banning/limiting people for winning should invalidate their license. I get why a Vegas casino might want to limit taking, say, bets above $500,000 or a few million without vetting/insurance/etc but there should be a level tier for all the non-whales where they have to take your action or close up shop. Period.

Yep

 

[Joe Bryant]

Parlay bets should be illegal. Too stupid for words.

Nah.
I killed DraftKings last year with player prop parlays. Not I get no promos from them and when I do they are $5 max bet

This should be illegal.

Banning/limiting people for winning should invalidate their license. I get why a Vegas casino might want to limit taking, say, bets above $500,000 or a few million without vetting/insurance/etc but there should be a level tier for all the non-whales where they have to take your action or close up shop. Period.

I'm always amazed when people tell me how limited they are on some of the books.

That seems wild. The books let you bet as much as you want when the book is winning. But win too much and the book cranks down. I'm always surprised when people just at this.

I guess though it's a "what are you going to do?" thing.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Parlay bets should be illegal. Too stupid for words.

Nah.
I killed DraftKings last year with player prop parlays. Not I get no promos from them and when I do they are $5 max bet

This should be illegal.

Banning/limiting people for winning should invalidate their license. I get why a Vegas casino might want to limit taking, say, bets above $500,000 or a few million without vetting/insurance/etc but there should be a level tier for all the non-whales where they have to take your action or close up shop. Period.

I'm always amazed when people tell me how limited they are on some of the books.

That seems wild. The books let you bet as much as you want when the book is winning. But win too much and the book cranks down. I'm always surprised when people just at this.

I guess though it's a "what are you going to do?" thing.

What choice does one have? I don’t use that book anymore.
It’s a ****ing racket

 

[FairWarning]

I am always amazed how many bettors follow the betting suggestions of the very people trying to take their money.

Parlay bets should be illegal. Too stupid for words.

Nah.
I killed DraftKings last year with player prop parlays. Not I get no promos from them and when I do they are $5 max bet

This should be illegal.

Banning/limiting people for winning should invalidate their license. I get why a Vegas casino might want to limit taking, say, bets above $500,000 or a few million without vetting/insurance/etc but there should be a level tier for all the non-whales where they have to take your action or close up shop. Period.

I'm always amazed when people tell me how limited they are on some of the books.

That seems wild. The books let you bet as much as you want when the book is winning. But win too much and the book cranks down. I'm always surprised when people just at this.

I guess though it's a "what are you going to do?" thing.

Books will limit you/show you the door if you beat them on a price/number. You dont have to win, they know you eventually will.

 

[Max Power]

Clase’s MLB career over because he placed prop bets on himself.

Unbelievable.

Unconfirmed but a strong strong rumor he is done pitching in MLB.

Get ready for a lot of this garbage.

I can't recall the podcast because it was just a clip, but it was a pro basketball player (Porter from the Nuggets) talking about how easily players can make their friends and family money just by giving insight on daily games. His example was a player nursing an injury that knows they aren't getting their standard playing time that game, bet his unders.

Players are going to figure out the sneaky ways where "no one gets hurt" to get money out of this. They are already talking about it.