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LawFitz
Footballguy
Raiders offensive players are likely to be completely ignored and I see possible steals on this roster since most will completely ban Raiders from their teams after last year's offensive debacle. Porter's gonna be the early #1 and Curry could be a 1a - he's a flat out STUD if he can just stay healthy.
Me thinks the Raiders might be sneaky this year.
I like this Kiffen character. McCown was a nice p/u as was Rhodes, Griffith, Carlisle, and maybe Newberry if the knees make it thru.
The key is Cable and Knapp and their ability to fix that OLine. The pedigree's supposedly there. It's time for Girllery and Grove to put up or get out. The resurrection of these two and the OL as a whole will be THE big key for how quickly this team can compete again. Maybe the ZBS will be the answer.
At least they have McC to deal with the line's growing pains before JaMarcus.
Me thinks the Raiders might be sneaky this year.
I like this Kiffen character. McCown was a nice p/u as was Rhodes, Griffith, Carlisle, and maybe Newberry if the knees make it thru.
The key is Cable and Knapp and their ability to fix that OLine. The pedigree's supposedly there. It's time for Girllery and Grove to put up or get out. The resurrection of these two and the OL as a whole will be THE big key for how quickly this team can compete again. Maybe the ZBS will be the answer.
At least they have McC to deal with the line's growing pains before JaMarcus.
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The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Just whine baby.
?just hate baby
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Wait...... Rex just threw another pick.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Barring injuries, Jerry Porter will have his first 1000 yard receiving season (finally), and IMO, will be a solid #2 WR at the very least.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Wait, the Raiders are about to score a touchdown...just wait, it's coming soon...still waitingWait...... Rex just threw another pick.
Anyway, I think my first comment was misinterpreted - it was meant as a slap at the complaints of the NFLPA (and, I would guess, the Raider players who complained about the practices to the Players' Association), not at Raider fans. Unless the NFLPA independently monitors teams' practices, it would stand to reason that the only way they would hear about the rigorous nature of the practices is from the players themselves. And I found it pretty pathetic that players on a team coming off a 2-14 season as well as a team that had serious problems with coach-player relationships (and then had a difficult time even hiring a coach) would then complain about tough practices. I would think that they would be working as hard as possible to erase the debacle that was last season instead of complaining about hard work.I don't hate the Raiders - I attended a lot of their games when they were in Los Angeles, including the '83 AFC title game. I think the NFL is more interesting when they are at least decent (it certainly makes sports radio out here more entertaining when the Raider and Charger fans can talk trash to each other). But complaining about tough practices? That's pretty weak. Didn't the Lions do that a season or two ago? That hasn't worked out too well for them as I remember.So if any FBG Raider fans thought I was calling them whiners, my apologies.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Spoken like a gentleman.So if any FBG Raider fans thought I was calling them whiners, my apologies.Wait...... Rex just threw another pick.
The Jacket
Footballguy
Glorious optimism.
4-12.
4-12.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Gallery is a big "?" for the team. If he plays as he has it will set the team back deeply. If he plays to his expected potential then it will propel the team to a faster turn around. The one encouraging thing is the seemingly 'getting it' that has happened with the new coaching staff and system. He was talking about last year not really understanding what they wanted or was expected of him and that now it is a 'oh, gotcha' type thing. Hopefully the #2 overall investment will pay off- otherwise it is hard to find a top tier T in the NFL to anchor an O-Line. Only one thing is for sure- this a very important year for this kid.
LawFitz
Footballguy
You don't know squat. Last year, they were a 6-10 squad with an 0-16 coaching staff. This team has a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. If they can get some decent coaching (Kiffin looking good so far) and decent OLine and QB play, they will easily win more than 4 games.But keep looking in the rearview mirror when assessing things, genius.The Jacket said:
The Jacket
Footballguy
Keep dreaming. It's June; this is the best time of the year for you Raider fans. A couple months after your top-10 pick, and a couple months to go so you can still pretend like your team will sniff .500.Btw, your offensive talent is mediocre at best. You have two backup RBs, no QB, no TE, no WR with a 1000-yard season under his belt (unless I'm forgetting someone... possible) and an embarrassingly bad offensive line.Kid coach just promoted from college coordinator gonna fix all that?Good luck. 
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Keep dreaming. It's June; this is the best time of the year for you Raider fans. A couple months after your top-10 pick, and a couple months to go so you can still pretend like your team will sniff .500.
Btw, your offensive talent is mediocre at best. You have two backup RBs, no QB, no TE, no WR with a 1000-yard season under his belt (unless I'm forgetting someone... possible) and an embarrassingly bad offensive line.
Kid coach just promoted from college coordinator gonna fix all that?
Good luck.
Buddy, your act is as fresh as a Foghat concert.Here... print this out and take it into the bathroom.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../SP13R95O62.DTL
Raiders linemen drilled by Cable
David White, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, July 29, 2007
Tom Cable is the new Oakland Raiders offensive line coach who yells and screams and curses and curses some more. The job title doesn't suggest it, but he might be the most important person in the eye-patch organization this season.
Think about it: Rookie coach Lane Kiffin can scheme as much as he wants, quarterback JaMarcus Russell can throw as far as possible and the defense can be stingy as ever, but if the offensive line cannot block, the Raiders will end up 2-14 as can be.
So yeah, Cable is kind of important.
"There's a lot of work to do," Cable said at training camp Saturday in Napa. "You kind of have to start over. I like what they're doing, but it's definitely a project to rebuild it."
Last year, the Raiders gave up an NFL-worst 72 quarterback sacks and created holes only big enough for a 3.9-yard average per carry. Players said they had three coaches giving them conflicting instructions: head coach Art Shell and co-offensive line coaches Jackie Slater and Irv Eatman.
With all three dismissed after the season, they now have one coach relaying one message, usually by way of screaming and yelling and cursing and more cursing.
Left guard Robert Gallery said, "He's going to push us." Rookie tackle Mario Henderson said, "He's giving to give it to you."
Raiders center Jeremy Newberry said they haven't heard the half of it.
"He's calmed down 500 percent," said Newberry, who played for Cable at Cal 10 years ago. "This is the calmest I've ever seen him."
Not so much anymore. Cable is too busy explaining to last year's players (four starters are back) a new zone-blocking scheme, where players are assigned certain areas instead of singling out particular players on every play.
Cable is Oakland's fifth offensive line coach since 2004, when Gallery was drafted second overall. The Raiders' record in that span is 11-37.
You'd think the linemen would be sick of learning new systems that come with lofty expectations, but frankly, after last year, they're willing to give anything a chance.
Cable helped the Atlanta Falcons led the NFL in rushing last season, so they're listening.
"To not have somebody come in and change everything you've ever done, it's refreshing," Gallery said. "We're a lot farther ahead than we were at any point last year."
Some of that is improved technique. More of it has to do with how the players are feeling about themselves, especially carryovers from last year's team.
Gallery's confidence was shot. Sims was left baffled by his late-season benching. Center Jake Grove still doesn't know what he was supposed to be doing. Leave it to Cable to lift their spirits in his own bleepity-bleep way.
"You've got guys who got talent, (but) you've got guys who have very little belief in themselves," Cable said. "I just worry about their minds right now because they've got the bodies.
"In order for us to move and grow, you've got to forget what's happened. Don't forget how much that hurts and how people kicked you in the (groin) and talk about you the way they do; remember that part. But forget what you know and let's just start over."
And all the hollering? Cable says that's just him being himself. He's the kind coach who "loves 'em and is (ticked) at them all at the same time."
If players get tired of it, Newberry said there's a great way to get Cable to pipe down.
"As you learn to work consistently, he won't ride you like that," said Newberry, a former Pro Bowler who never gets chewed out. "That's his way of getting people motivated. If that bothers you and you can't deal with that, then it's probably the wrong game for you."
Miller signs: Second-round draft pick Zach Miller, a tight end from Arizona State, was signed late Friday night and joined the team at practice Saturday.
He got a four-year deal worth $5.18 million with a $965,000 signing bonus, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Incentives could bump the contract to more than $5.5 million.
Miller shared first-team snaps and is considered a leading contender to start. The Raiders thought enough of him after offseason workouts to waive former starting tight end Courtney Anderson on Thursday.
Russell, the No. 1 pick overall, is the final player unsigned. He's home in Mobile, Ala.
Raiders linemen drilled by Cable
David White, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, July 29, 2007
Tom Cable is the new Oakland Raiders offensive line coach who yells and screams and curses and curses some more. The job title doesn't suggest it, but he might be the most important person in the eye-patch organization this season.
Think about it: Rookie coach Lane Kiffin can scheme as much as he wants, quarterback JaMarcus Russell can throw as far as possible and the defense can be stingy as ever, but if the offensive line cannot block, the Raiders will end up 2-14 as can be.
So yeah, Cable is kind of important.
"There's a lot of work to do," Cable said at training camp Saturday in Napa. "You kind of have to start over. I like what they're doing, but it's definitely a project to rebuild it."
Last year, the Raiders gave up an NFL-worst 72 quarterback sacks and created holes only big enough for a 3.9-yard average per carry. Players said they had three coaches giving them conflicting instructions: head coach Art Shell and co-offensive line coaches Jackie Slater and Irv Eatman.
With all three dismissed after the season, they now have one coach relaying one message, usually by way of screaming and yelling and cursing and more cursing.
Left guard Robert Gallery said, "He's going to push us." Rookie tackle Mario Henderson said, "He's giving to give it to you."
Raiders center Jeremy Newberry said they haven't heard the half of it.
"He's calmed down 500 percent," said Newberry, who played for Cable at Cal 10 years ago. "This is the calmest I've ever seen him."
Not so much anymore. Cable is too busy explaining to last year's players (four starters are back) a new zone-blocking scheme, where players are assigned certain areas instead of singling out particular players on every play.
Cable is Oakland's fifth offensive line coach since 2004, when Gallery was drafted second overall. The Raiders' record in that span is 11-37.
You'd think the linemen would be sick of learning new systems that come with lofty expectations, but frankly, after last year, they're willing to give anything a chance.
Cable helped the Atlanta Falcons led the NFL in rushing last season, so they're listening.
"To not have somebody come in and change everything you've ever done, it's refreshing," Gallery said. "We're a lot farther ahead than we were at any point last year."
Some of that is improved technique. More of it has to do with how the players are feeling about themselves, especially carryovers from last year's team.
Gallery's confidence was shot. Sims was left baffled by his late-season benching. Center Jake Grove still doesn't know what he was supposed to be doing. Leave it to Cable to lift their spirits in his own bleepity-bleep way.
"You've got guys who got talent, (but) you've got guys who have very little belief in themselves," Cable said. "I just worry about their minds right now because they've got the bodies.
"In order for us to move and grow, you've got to forget what's happened. Don't forget how much that hurts and how people kicked you in the (groin) and talk about you the way they do; remember that part. But forget what you know and let's just start over."
And all the hollering? Cable says that's just him being himself. He's the kind coach who "loves 'em and is (ticked) at them all at the same time."
If players get tired of it, Newberry said there's a great way to get Cable to pipe down.
"As you learn to work consistently, he won't ride you like that," said Newberry, a former Pro Bowler who never gets chewed out. "That's his way of getting people motivated. If that bothers you and you can't deal with that, then it's probably the wrong game for you."
Miller signs: Second-round draft pick Zach Miller, a tight end from Arizona State, was signed late Friday night and joined the team at practice Saturday.
He got a four-year deal worth $5.18 million with a $965,000 signing bonus, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Incentives could bump the contract to more than $5.5 million.
Miller shared first-team snaps and is considered a leading contender to start. The Raiders thought enough of him after offseason workouts to waive former starting tight end Courtney Anderson on Thursday.
Russell, the No. 1 pick overall, is the final player unsigned. He's home in Mobile, Ala.
