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Ashley Madison hacked - Start hiding everything (1 Viewer)

I searched for my email addresses and the addresses of some former coworkers. All clear. Then I felt like a sleazeball and stopped.
Did you feel like a sleezeball when you looked at nudes during "The Fappening"?
Not really. Maybe that's hypocritical. :shrug:
I think it is.

FTR I would do the same and probably feel same as you
Thought about this a little more. The fappening pictures are of celebrities that I have no connection to. It feels a little different investigating someone I might "know". Not saying either is right or wrong, just different.

Would feel the same if there was revenge porn out there of someone I knew. But who am I kidding? I would probably still look that up.
Our brains evolved to live in social groups of around 100-200 people. So it's natural (if not necessarily ethical) to treat people outside that limit worse than you would the 200 or so people you're closest to.

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
Dam, that is rough

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
Dam, that is rough
You did that to a friend? That's horrible. Good god....

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
Dam, that is rough
You did that to a friend? That's horrible. Good god....
Not you, CN....should have quoted FN.

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
Dam, that is rough
If by 'rough', you mean funny, I agree

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
Dam, that is rough
If by 'rough', you mean funny, I agree
3 days is funny 6 months is borderline sociopolitical

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
Dam, that is rough
If by 'rough', you mean funny, I agree
Coming from a guy who is sexually aroused by Little Pony characters. And that is all I need to know about your judgement.

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
I don't think they do it to mess with people. I think they do it for the same reason people catfish others by pretending to be women.

 
Came home last night and wife asked me: "So what's your username to Ashley Madison."

I looked her dead in the eye and said: "I'm not stupid enough to leave a digital footprint. I'll just go to a bar, pick up a girl using a fake name, and cheat the old fashioned way."

And that's when the fight started. :lol:

 
Yes. He was a friend. Not a close friend...He was the roommate of my best buddy at the time. They were friends growing up. It was more a roommate out of financial convenience who my buddy could also tolerate. This was waaaaay back when the internet was still kind of new and the term "Catfishing" had no on-line meaning. This guy was constantly bragging about how he'd meet hot girls at Korn concerts and how he was always hooking up with them...yet he NEVER brought a girl back to their shared apartment, so we felt he was full of crap.

We created this girl, alias "Korn Kween" on his favorite forum and it went from there.

In retrospect, it was pretty mean to do in my now mid-30's eyes, even to a guy who lied and was annoying about lying about bagging chicks...but we were like 19-20 years old and it seemed like fun at the time.

 
Came home last night and wife asked me: "So what's your username to Ashley Madison."

I looked her dead in the eye and said: "I'm not stupid enough to leave a digital footprint. I'll just go to a bar, pick up a girl using a fake name, and cheat the old fashioned way."

And that's when the fight started. :lol:
Jesus. I think if you want a divorce you can legally just ask for one.

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
I don't think they do it to mess with people. I think they do it for the same reason people catfish others by pretending to be women.
Which is what? We just did it to mess with people.

Are there people who get some kind of real emotional benefit from it?

 
That would be pretty clever of the hackers to set up the sites to have people check their email addresses, then use that to determine who to blackmail.
True.

I also always assumed that every real woman on AM was there to set a guy up to blackmail. Seemed like the stupidest way to cheat on your wife since the guy is easy pickings for criminals.
Any list i've seen thus far is like 99% dudes. Giant sausage fest there. I can't imagine guys actually made many "connections."
One woman sleeping with 99 guys.
I like those odds!

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
I don't think they do it to mess with people. I think they do it for the same reason people catfish others by pretending to be women.
Which is what? We just did it to mess with people.

Are there people who get some kind of real emotional benefit from it?
Do you ever watch that show on MTV called Catfish? It's one of my guilty pleasures. Half of the episodes are people talking to people that they think are the opposite sex but turn out to be the same sex. I guess some gay people (or gay people who are not out of the closet yet) use online sites because they can pretend to be someone they're not.

When they said 95% of all signups were dudes, my first thought was that a lot of dudes were sexting with other dudes pretending to be hot ladies. :shrug:

 
Came home last night and wife asked me: "So what's your username to Ashley Madison."

I looked her dead in the eye and said: "I'm not stupid enough to leave a digital footprint. I'll just go to a bar, pick up a girl using a fake name, and cheat the old fashioned way."

And that's when the fight started. :lol:
And that's the last time you ever went to a bar

 
I still don't understand why so many guys would join a site that's 95% other dudes. Word would have gotten out that AM was nothing but dudes, there had to be something legit about it.

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
Dam, that is rough
If by 'rough', you mean funny, I agree
3 days is funny 6 months is borderline sociopolitical
:lmao: wut?

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
What a ####.

 
I still don't understand why so many guys would join a site that's 95% other dudes. Word would have gotten out that AM was nothing but dudes, there had to be something legit about it.
Agreed. Apparently there were some women cause they did offer some kind of guaranteed hookup for an upcharge.

 
Came home last night and wife asked me: "So what's your username to Ashley Madison."

I looked her dead in the eye and said: "I'm not stupid enough to leave a digital footprint. I'll just go to a bar, pick up a girl using a fake name, and cheat the old fashioned way."

And that's when the fight started. :lol:
we had a similar discussion. Ended with me saying I was insulted that she thought I needed to find a chick online.

Probably didn't help that I had just spent the morning surrounded by college to middle age women in spandex and bathing suits.

 
I still don't understand why so many guys would join a site that's 95% other dudes. Word would have gotten out that AM was nothing but dudes, there had to be something legit about it.
That's the beauty of a scam like this... Most guys aren't going around broadcasting the fact that they joined Ashley Madison and those that do are probably the braggarts that need to tell everyone how many chicks they banged. Shame kept Ashley Madison in business, both the shame of having an affair and the shame of wanting to have an affair but being unsuccessful.

 
I had an OKCupid account claiming to be a hot female, but it was for research purposes.
Driving a Prius and pretending to be a woman on OKCupid? That's a slippery slope, GB.
Update your notebook. I no longer drive a Prius.
I can't wait to hear what you chose to replace the Prius with.
we got the Lexus hybrid. it's basically a much better looking prius with leather and heated seats.

 
If there were basically no chicks on that site, how could there have been so many dudes signed up? Wouldn't word have gotten out it was nothing but a sausage-fest?
95% of credit cards were dudes. I'm guessing some of those dudes created "female" accounts.
Don't get me wrong...I've messed with my share of buddies via fake e-mail accounts*, but I've never paid money to do it. Somebody's really got some 'splanin' to do if their wife finds out they paid money to AM and expects her to buy the "But I pretended I was a lady" excuse.

*We once messed with a buddy of mine for 6 months using pictures of a girl on a no-nude website and a fake e-mail account. Found him in his favorite hard-rock chat room, picked an ideal user ID, and led him on for 6 months, culminating in a "meeting" at a bar. Poor guy almost cried, and was ready to start throwing punches when he found out his "dream girl" was just his roommate and me messing with him.
I don't think they do it to mess with people. I think they do it for the same reason people catfish others by pretending to be women.
Which is what? We just did it to mess with people.

Are there people who get some kind of real emotional benefit from it?
Do you ever watch that show on MTV called Catfish? It's one of my guilty pleasures. Half of the episodes are people talking to people that they think are the opposite sex but turn out to be the same sex. I guess some gay people (or gay people who are not out of the closet yet) use online sites because they can pretend to be someone they're not.

When they said 95% of all signups were dudes, my first thought was that a lot of dudes were sexting with other dudes pretending to be hot ladies. :shrug:
I'm aware of the show, but never watched it. I had no idea they were people pretending to be the opposite sex. I thought they were just people who's profile pic was of some model, while they were far less attractive.

I get your theory now. That will lead to some interesting conversations at some homes...

 
I still don't understand why so many guys would join a site that's 95% other dudes. Word would have gotten out that AM was nothing but dudes, there had to be something legit about it.
Agreed. Apparently there were some women cause they did offer some kind of guaranteed hookup for an upcharge.
The leaked info is credit card transactions. Per wikipedia:

Business model[SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]

Unlike Match.com or eHarmony, Ashley Madison's business model is based on credits rather than monthly subscriptions. For a conversation between two members, one of the members—almost always the man—must pay five credits to initiate the conversation. Any follow-up messages between the two members are free after the communication has been initiated. Ashley Madison also has a real-time chat feature that is metered. Credits are utilised to pay for a certain time allotment of chat. Women can send messages to men for free, but the men must pay to read them.[18]

Several aspects of Ashley Madison are described in the Terms and Conditions as "For Your Entertainment."[19] This included Ashley's Angels, a feature that generated fictitious profiles to simulate communication with real members and perform market research. According to the site, Ashley's Angels accounts "are NOT conspicuously identified as such."[20] Ashley's Angels profiles were limited to messaging only guest accounts and users could opt out of the feature via their profile management page. Users were charged the standard rate to read messages from and chat with these fictitious profiles.

The site allows users to hide their account profiles for free. Users looking to delete their accounts, even those made without the individual's consent, have to pay a $19 fee.[19][10]The full delete option claimed to remove user profiles, all messages sent and received, site usage history, personally identifiable information, and photos from the site.[21] The data disclosures in 2015 disclosed that this "permanent deletion" feature did not delete anything, and all data was recoverable.

Imbalance between male and female users[SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]70% of Ashley Madison's users are male.[22] "More men than women use the service, with the disparity increasing as they advance in age", and "Men seek sex, while women seek passion".[23] This is not revealed to prospective users. Furthermore, Ashley Madison routinely uses computer-generated female "profiles" to make it seem that more women participate than really do.[22]

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So, the majority of the people showing up on the credit card transactions were men who paid to have conversations with ladies. It makes sense that the ladies didn't have to pay to initiate many conversations as they were in the vast demand.

 
I guess their business model really isn't different than bars offering free cover to the ladies, or half-priced drinks on ladies night.

The sad thing is that there are probably thousands of cheating women out there who dodged a bullet simply because they didn't have to pony up their CC info to get some on the side.

 
I guess their business model really isn't different than bars offering free cover to the ladies, or half-priced drinks on ladies night.

The sad thing is that there are probably thousands of cheating women out there who dodged a bullet simply because they didn't have to pony up their CC info to get some on the side.
It's really not that different from the bar scene for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady a drink to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.

 
I guess their business model really isn't different than bars offering free cover to the ladies, or half-priced drinks on ladies night.

The sad thing is that there are probably thousands of cheating women out there who dodged a bullet simply because they didn't have to pony up their CC info to get some on the side.
It's really not that different from the bar scene for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady a drink to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.
Its not different if the ladies in the bar are holograms.

 
I guess their business model really isn't different than bars offering free cover to the ladies, or half-priced drinks on ladies night.

The sad thing is that there are probably thousands of cheating women out there who dodged a bullet simply because they didn't have to pony up their CC info to get some on the side.
It's really not that different from the bar scene for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady a drink to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.
It's really not that different than prostitution for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.

 
I guess their business model really isn't different than bars offering free cover to the ladies, or half-priced drinks on ladies night.

The sad thing is that there are probably thousands of cheating women out there who dodged a bullet simply because they didn't have to pony up their CC info to get some on the side.
It's really not that different from the bar scene for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady a drink to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.
It's really not that different than prostitution for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.
But they're charging guys to speak with computer generated profiles

 
I guess their business model really isn't different than bars offering free cover to the ladies, or half-priced drinks on ladies night.

The sad thing is that there are probably thousands of cheating women out there who dodged a bullet simply because they didn't have to pony up their CC info to get some on the side.
It's really not that different from the bar scene for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady a drink to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.
It's really not that different than prostitution for most men I suppose. Instead of having to buy the lady to start a conversation, you have to buy credits on the site.
But they're charging guys to speak with computer generated profiles
right, I was referring more to the guaranteed part of the site.

 
scary moment - I apparently received spam in an email I haven't used in years, from OK Cupid. :shock: Honestly, I never signed up or even heard of it until recently as part of the AM stuff. My wife saw the email :sadbanana: but at least the info was really old and outdated, from a place we haven't lived in years. But then, curious, I opened up one of the emails which stated "we see you're in a happy relationship, so we'll respect that". :cool:

 
That would be pretty clever of the hackers to set up the sites to have people check their email addresses, then use that to determine who to blackmail.
True.

I also always assumed that every real woman on AM was there to set a guy up to blackmail. Seemed like the stupidest way to cheat on your wife since the guy is easy pickings for criminals.
Any list i've seen thus far is like 99% dudes. Giant sausage fest there. I can't imagine guys actually made many "connections."
I met 4-5 women from AM in person and "connected" with three of them. But yes there were tons of dudes and the few actual women that were on there at the time (6-7 years ago) were getting hammered with messages.

Let's see,

- 99% dudes

- the women that actually were on there presumably felt the need to be on there

- any reasonably attractive woman who wants to cheat just has to make herself available in person

- they charge you and take your personal information

Morals aside, what's the attraction?
I don't know any of this for sure. I would guess most affairs take place with someone you already know (circle of friends, coworkers, etc.) As you can imagine, all kinds of issues can arise from that. I would imagine there's also a flirty/testing the waters phase not knowing for sure if the other party is down for it. A site like AM skips those issues and cuts right to the deed. I guess it's kind of a quick and lazy way if you think about it. :shrug:
Pretty much this - I had permission to get some outside of my marriage as long as it was outside of our community and social circles. So a site like AM was perfect for that.

I had an OKCupid account claiming to be a hot female, but it was for research purposes.
Funny - I actually did set up a female profile on AM, just to see what messages guys were sending trying to generate a response. I didn't even include a pic and never interacted, I just wanted to see what "the competition" for the few real females on the site that were local to me was up to so I could step up my game. I pretty quickly realized I didn't need to bother since most messages were barely literate - guys are a bunch of idiots.

 

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