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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
sorry, do not have paypal
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Insoxicated
Do you accept coupons?
Glll GB! Will be in Vegas for a bachelor party in July. May drop ya a line if you're going to be back in town?
Mark Davis
Footballguy
At Aria July 16-20. Don't have any Bank of America's here believe it or not or I'd just buy 1% for the fun of having some action.Do you accept coupons?
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Yea I'll be getting back to Vegas in late May and staying there all summer
Run It Up
Footballguy
Never poked in here before, was just curious what was up but it looks like you are well off.Just to save me some time, what is your game of choice (ie. not the softest, the one you are best at). What are your opinions of PLO8 vs NLO8 and FLO8. And have you made any money playing Openface Chinese yet?
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
HU deepstacked PLO8 is my game of choice. PLO8 is imo a much better game than NLO8 because in the latter you'll be able to see less flops due to bad aces shoving PF and due to many shortstackers turning it into a shove-fest preflop. I don't play FL at all.Run It Up said:
I spent some time trying to solve OFC with some friends, but I haven't gotten around to playing it for any reasonable stakes yet. Probably will concentrate on other things.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
In my last poker tournament i played at in the Omaha WSOP Circuit I came to a few realizations.
1) Poker is definitely a game where playing more often and thinking about your game helps.
When i was playing a lot online and really dialed it, my game, my thoughts were a lot sharper... I think keeping up with forums like 2+2 allow you to also see and sense current trends in play.. some moves i saw were completely different from what i would see 5-6 years ago.
2) And I've lost it.
I play limit hold 'em once per month with a group of dentists.. and my lower limit hold 'em game is still fairly sharp..
My low limit buy in NLHE ring game play is fairly competent as well.
I can still compete in tournaments.. but I feel like I've lost discipline, patience, and some of the quick thinking.
Basically until online poker comes back where i can get some more repetitions in, I just don't feel like i have much game anymore.
I think the 2004-7 version of myself would crush the crap out of the 2013 me... then i was thinking about poker alot.. posting on threads here, on 2+2, discussing it with my buddy who plays, etc.
Now.. not so much.
1) Poker is definitely a game where playing more often and thinking about your game helps.
When i was playing a lot online and really dialed it, my game, my thoughts were a lot sharper... I think keeping up with forums like 2+2 allow you to also see and sense current trends in play.. some moves i saw were completely different from what i would see 5-6 years ago.
2) And I've lost it.
I play limit hold 'em once per month with a group of dentists.. and my lower limit hold 'em game is still fairly sharp..
My low limit buy in NLHE ring game play is fairly competent as well.
I can still compete in tournaments.. but I feel like I've lost discipline, patience, and some of the quick thinking.
Basically until online poker comes back where i can get some more repetitions in, I just don't feel like i have much game anymore.
I think the 2004-7 version of myself would crush the crap out of the 2013 me... then i was thinking about poker alot.. posting on threads here, on 2+2, discussing it with my buddy who plays, etc.
Now.. not so much.
I think most of us that don't live near B&M casinos are in the same boat. And the longer it takes for online play to come back, the less interest I (we?) have in starting over.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Sounds good. I have a friend who is really good with online transfers across different poker sites and 3rd party services- I'll ask him what he thinks is the best way for me to do transfers with people who can't do PS or BoA and report back later today.
Hopefully we can find a way for you and a few of the others who expressed interest to make a transfer.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
A tournament like the 1r1a Turbo PL Courchevel hi/lo high($1050), which comes out to $3k+ buy-in and has a turbo structure, probably requires a $400K+ bankroll to play using proper bankroll management. An overwhelming majority of poker players sell large parts(or all) of their action to big events....the public image of the poker world being full of millionaires who can afford these super high buy-ins is a complete myth. The truth is that poker used to be super easy but has gotten insanely competitive- edges are now super small, and very few people are raking in the money like they used to. The general public would be shocked at how many of the well known players have very tiny bankrolls currently.Good Posting Judge said:Just for fun or...Assani Fisher said:
Even if you can afford to buy into $10Ks, you're almost certainly swapping 5% with a bunch of people to minimize your risk.
LittleLarry
Footballguy
What kind of physical shape are you in my man? Been getting a lot of exercise?Assani Fisher said:
Also have you found some time to contribute to society in some way? Helping out at the homeless shelter or something??
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
i can get to a B&M casino in 25 min... that's not the issue.
it's that i've never enjoyed ring games... and live tournaments in casinos except for the bigger ones are pure donkaments with the low minutes per round and quick blind moves... designed to get done quickly, not provide a maximal tournament skill experience (which i understand).
I don't miss online ring games, but i sure miss pokerstars tournaments... awesome way to enjoy the cold winter months or a rainy day off
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
There are BOA's all over the place here. I guess all you have to do is PM me the account number and name on it and I can just make a deposit at a branch into your account.
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I've only met assani once but I see this sort of veiled "attack" on poker players often...
1) Assani is in pretty damn good shape I believe. On twitter he was talking about some
bet he had. 2) Assani likely "contributes" as much outside making his living as the average american does.
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r0llin_game
Footballguy
Not try to take a jab at you AF, but trying to sell all action and offer yourself a freeroll is a bit, absurd? Are you playing if you don't sell out?
why is it absurd? He's without a doubt a good investment at the small markup he's charging.
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Insoxicated
a 20% markup is very fair. Assani is much more than 20% better than the average player in these tournaments. IMO These shares are +EV. This is very common among better players to lower variance.
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r0llin_game
Footballguy
I'm not disagreeing with him charging 1.2 for mark up, it's the fact that he's completely free rolling the tourneys without investing a dime of his own money that I'm questioning. Everyone that I know would at least bought a small little percentage of themselves, to go along with the rest of the mark up that covers the entire package.
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Insoxicated
He's going to have a percentage of himself. No, he's not paying for it, but what he IS doing is he's the one sitting in a chair for 20-30 hours and playing lights out poker. That's HIS contribution to the pool. I'd say he's doing his fair share.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Seems somewhat random, but whatever....
Recently been working on my squat a bit, my most recent videos:
Now that SCOOP has started and a lot of friends are in town to play it, we've been playing full court bball most days(I played DII in college and try to keep playing as much as my old man body will let me). I also do indoor rock climbing, yoga/foam rolling, and am interested in taking up surfing.
As for contributing to society, I'm deeply interested in religion/spirituality/psychedelics/meditation/philosophy/etc. I listen/read a lot of Joe Rogan, Jason Silva, Sam Harris, etc. I would love to follow in their footsteps and write more and/or start a podcast one day. I'm also thinking about starting a float tank business sometime by summer of 2014 in Las Vegas(search youtube for "float tank" or "sensory deprivation tank" for more info). Overall though I think the best way to help society is simply through day-to-day interactions- spread happiness and kindness and it really can change the world.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Ok so....
1. PokerStars transfer(my preferred method)
2. BoA transfer- can do this online or I guess, like you say, you can just go to a local branch and do it.
3. I've been told that you can make transfers to BoA from Wells Fargo and a few others major banks.
If none of these work, I may be able to use a friend's paypal account, but I'm not certain. Let me know if paypal is the only way you can do it, and I"ll ask him.
If you need my bank info to make a transfer then PM me please
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Its fairly standard- check out other threads in the 2p2 staking forum. Plenty of people sell all 100% of their action, although you are correct that many only sell partial amounts. Theres varying factors that go into determining the best way for each situation(expected EV of tournament, current overall bankroll, current online bankroll, risk tolerance, etc.), and in this case I'd rather sell all of my action so that I can use my current online bankroll to play in all the smaller tournaments during SCOOP as well as grind cash.
I will still play if I don't sell out, but I don't think it'll be an issue(the only reason I'm a bit nervous is because I waited til 2 days before it started...should've done this 2 weeks ago).
Above all else, please don't invest if you are skeptical in any way. I absolutely don't want anyone to be uneasy or to think that I'm doing anything "absurd" when they invest in me. I try to be as upfront and honest as possible about all matters(and I absolutely don't mind you posting this, as it only gives me a chance to be honest and fully explain myself).
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I'll mark you down for 5% in the staking thread, please let me know ASAP if you change your mind or can't find a way to send the funds.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
Give you give my your routing and checking #, I will be if I can do it from a bank account, if not I will go to the branch. Paypal is simple for me too. Either way I am in.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
received, thanks. You actually sent $6 too much, as I made a slight error in the first post of that thread and corrected it in a later post. Hopefully I'll make at least one cash, and when I send you the money back I'll include the $6. If not, i"ll owe you a beer!
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
I just reread this, WTF am I illiterate? Must have been taking a phone call.
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Footballguy
Mark Davis
Footballguy
If 3 is true if someone could let me know how that part is done from Wells Fargo. I'd be in for 1% to have an interest if I can find a way to do it via Wells online.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I asked my friend on Skype and he said:
transfers and then "send and receive money"
in wells fargo online banking
and then they need to send by mobile number or email address
My email address would be either kamagf@yahoo.com or assanifisher@hotmail.com
Send me a PM if you need my mobile #
transfers and then "send and receive money"
in wells fargo online banking
and then they need to send by mobile number or email address
My email address would be either kamagf@yahoo.com or assanifisher@hotmail.com
Send me a PM if you need my mobile #
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Sending funds now. Hopefully they show on your end immediately, says within 1 day.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This. I can pick up a bridge book and it's like picking up right where I left off, almost, but I feel like my poker game has depreciated dramatically.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Have not received yet, but I"m sure it'll be there within a day. You are booked for 1%, thanks. Will verify that I have recieved tomorrow.
4% left to sell.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Nice, PLO8 is my game of choice as well, but I enjoy NLO8 and FLO8 as well. My normal mix game loves to play fixed limit terribly so its rewarding if you can get a bunch of NL/PL honks to sit down. Despite the large amount of interest in OFC around here the game feels just as one dimensional to me as regular chinese.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
sorry guys just came here to post that it was sold out. I'll probably do a WSOP package- I'll post about that here when I do, and I will try to set up paypal account by then. Thanks to those who bought a piece, gl to us!
Zegras11
Footballguy
I'm going to play in the Om8 WSOP on June 10th. You playing? New to the thread, but would be interested in buying in and/or having a brew.
flapgreen
Footballguy
You alive!!! :fistpump:
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Right. I've seen the difference in poker playing online low-limit games where I used to crush pretty easily, It's gotten a lot harder.A tournament like the 1r1a Turbo PL Courchevel hi/lo high($1050), which comes out to $3k+ buy-in and has a turbo structure, probably requires a $400K+ bankroll to play using proper bankroll management. An overwhelming majority of poker players sell large parts(or all) of their action to big events....the public image of the poker world being full of millionaires who can afford these super high buy-ins is a complete myth. The truth is that poker used to be super easy but has gotten insanely competitive- edges are now super small, and very few people are raking in the money like they used to. The general public would be shocked at how many of the well known players have very tiny bankrolls currently.Just for fun or...
Even if you can afford to buy into $10Ks, you're almost certainly swapping 5% with a bunch of people to minimize your risk.
If the big edges are gone, is it even worth pursuing as a living anymore? Are there enough tourists and dead money in the WSOP and endorsement deals to make it worthwhile for the non-Negreanu/Hellmuth/Iveys? What's the saddest story you've heard about a former pro? Gavin Smith has to be parking cars somewhere now, right?
Re: swapping, of course it minimizes risk, but it also minimizes the upside. And if you know you're +EV, isn't there some worry about swapping with someone who isn't?
Have you ever met Billy Walters?
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Will definitely be playing both PLO8 events(but not the FLO8), not sure which one is on June 10th. Definitely feel free to come say hi anytime.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
"If the big edges are gone, is it even worth pursuing as a living anymore?"Right. I've seen the difference in poker playing online low-limit games where I used to crush pretty easily, It's gotten a lot harder.A tournament like the 1r1a Turbo PL Courchevel hi/lo high($1050), which comes out to $3k+ buy-in and has a turbo structure, probably requires a $400K+ bankroll to play using proper bankroll management. An overwhelming majority of poker players sell large parts(or all) of their action to big events....the public image of the poker world being full of millionaires who can afford these super high buy-ins is a complete myth. The truth is that poker used to be super easy but has gotten insanely competitive- edges are now super small, and very few people are raking in the money like they used to. The general public would be shocked at how many of the well known players have very tiny bankrolls currently.Just for fun or...
Even if you can afford to buy into $10Ks, you're almost certainly swapping 5% with a bunch of people to minimize your risk.
If the big edges are gone, is it even worth pursuing as a living anymore? Are there enough tourists and dead money in the WSOP and endorsement deals to make it worthwhile for the non-Negreanu/Hellmuth/Iveys? What's the saddest story you've heard about a former pro? Gavin Smith has to be parking cars somewhere now, right?
Re: swapping, of course it minimizes risk, but it also minimizes the upside. And if you know you're +EV, isn't there some worry about swapping with someone who isn't?
Have you ever met Billy Walters?
If you're just getting in to poker now, unless you're legitimately a genius level IQ or have extensive high level experience at games like chess/Magic/gin I would advise against getting into it. The learning curve is too steep, and the winrates are too low until you get really good.
Its a very weird situation in that most people get into an industry, gradually get slightly better at their jobs over time, and earn more and more money as they go along. Poker was just the opposite- it started out incredibly easy, and tons of young arrogant kids like myself made way more money than they deserved(however there was nobody around to teach us about proper investing, bankroll management, etc.). If you're still around today, you've most likely improved at your job way beyond how much the average person improves at their job. The best comparison I can think of is UFC- an average fighter from today would utterly destroy the Royce Gracies/Ken Sharmrocks that were around in the beginning. In the same way an average $.5/1 online grinder today would be far and away the best player in the history of poker if you transported him 15 years back into the future. Yet despite this improvement, the winrate has gone down and down.
Personally I think that if financial goals are your main priority then its probably best to save up a decent amount from poker and then look to get into some other businesses while doing poker on the side. However, if you're interested in competition and you are proud to be part of an industry that has been a clear testament to the speed at which human's can accomplish something(never before has there been a logic game where it was possible to make tons of money and that had the internet to help the spread of information- this has resulted in an absurd growth in the past ~10 years....just imagine if 10 years ago a company set out to solve poker as much as possible- if they had progressed this much I think it'd be seen as a HUGE success). then you might still be drawn to poker."Are there enough tourists and dead money in the WSOP and endorsement deals to make it worthwhile for the non-Negreanu/Hellmuth/Iveys?"First off remember what I said about the average fan greatly overrating the bankroll(and poker ability) of many TV pros. Unless they got tons of sponsorship money or made money in shady ways, most of the older generation of pros are not raking in the money like you'd think. Many of them are staked for everything they enter. I won't comment on any one of those 3 individually since I don't have completely accurate information and don't want to speculate, but I've heard enough from friends of friends to have a general idea.As to your general question, there are no endorsements in poker anymore unless you are a hot girl, have a deep run in a tourney and do something memorable, or are truly elite. And these endorsements are worth way way less than you think nowadays(average endorsement probably $5k/year if I had to guess). Theres plenty of dead money in the WSOP Main Event, other events are still pretty soft but have gotten noticeably tougher in recent years."What's the saddest story you've heard about a former pro?"
Take your pick....re-watch an episode of the early seasons of High Stakes Poker, and about 1/2 the table is either broke, involved in a cheating scandal, was unable to adjust to tougher games, or out of poker completely. Its not really "sad" though- tons of people made tons of undeserved money for a long time in poker. Nowadays you have to work your ### off and actually be good to make money. Its more fair than ever imo."Re: swapping, of course it minimizes risk, but it also minimizes the upside. And if you know you're +EV, isn't there some worry about swapping with someone who isn't?"Yea, you don't just go around swapping with randoms. Most of the top level players have a group of 5-15 friends who they will swap with if they happen to see them before the tournament starts. Have never met Billy Walters.