At WR, Do you gamble on the young first rd WRs or go after young prove (1 Viewer)

[bigreese82]

I left Calvin Johnson out of the thread title but...do most of you take chances on these first rd guys or do you go after the guys who have shown a little something. Do you trade/prefer rookie wrs for proven young guys that might not have elite potential

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Are we talking dynasty or redraft?

In a redraft, I'd much rather have Colston or Edwards over any rookie WR not named Calvin Johnson.

As far as Johnson is concerned, I'd rank them Colston, Johnson, Edwards, just for example.

 

[bigreese82]

Are we talking dynasty or redraft?In a redraft, I'd much rather have Colston or Edwards over any rookie WR not named Calvin Johnson.As far as Johnson is concerned, I'd rank them Colston, Johnson, Edwards, just for example.

Meant Dynasty...sorry I didn't make that specific...interesting you have Colston above the great CJ :(

 

[bigreese82]

I have seen tons of people trade guys like Colston for rookie picks 4-10

 

[dirtyhalos]

for me, i would rather have the young promising vet type wrs over the completely unproven wrs (except for calvin!!!)

guys like braylon/colston/markclayton just feel safer and imo have the same if not higher upside

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Are we talking dynasty or redraft?In a redraft, I'd much rather have Colston or Edwards over any rookie WR not named Calvin Johnson.As far as Johnson is concerned, I'd rank them Colston, Johnson, Edwards, just for example.

Meant Dynasty...sorry I didn't make that specific...interesting you have Colston above the great CJ

For this year only.

 

[lions327]

I have seen tons of people trade guys like Colston for rookie picks 4-10

That is just dumb to make trades like that.

 

[SSOG]

I have seen tons of people trade guys like Colston for rookie picks 4-10

Unless you meant rookie picks 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, AND 10, then I think whoever is giving up Colston has lost his mind.

for me, i would rather have the young promising vet type wrs over the completely unproven wrs (except for calvin!!!)guys like braylon/colston/markclayton just feel safer and imo have the same if not higher upside

Another advantage to trading for guys that have been in the league for a while is there is generally a learning curve for WRs, meaning their first couple of years in the league are generally less productive. A great strategy is to trade unproven guys like a Meacham, Sidney Rice, or whoever for a Mark Clayton or Santonio Holmes-type- a guy who came into the league with a lot of hype, has shown flashes of being a solid player but hasn't proven anything, and who is entering his 2nd or 3rd season. Even if both WRs (the one you traded and the one you got) wind up following the exact same career arc, you come out ahead because you don't have to waste a roster spot for 1-2 years while the rookie WR develops. Plus, if you are really interested in Meacham, you could always trade back for him after he's been developing on another roster for a year. Owners tend to overrate this year's rookies and underrate last year's rookies.

 

[DropKick]

Why are the likes of Edwards or Colston even available in a dynasty format?

I think very few would prefer a Bowe or Meachem over Colston or Edwards. Yes, both Colston and Edwards have some track record but they are very young in their own right. What is it, 2nd and 3rd year now?

The more relevant question may be Bowe/Meachem vs. truly established vets, say Darrell Jackson, Terry Glenn, or Chris Chambers? I'm certain there are very different opinions on what is the bettter strategy.

 

[lions327]

Why are the likes of Edwards or Colston even available in a dynasty format?I think very few would prefer a Bowe or Meachem over Colston or Edwards. Yes, both Colston and Edwards have some track record but they are very young in their own right. What is it, 2nd and 3rd year now? The more relevant question may be Bowe/Meachem vs. truly established vets, say Darrell Jackson, Terry Glenn, or Chris Chambers? I'm certain there are very different opinions on what is the bettter strategy.

I assume the original posters question is about startup dynasty leagues.

 

[lions327]

Another advantage to trading for guys that have been in the league for a while is there is generally a learning curve for WRs, meaning their first couple of years in the league are generally less productive. A great strategy is to trade unproven guys like a Meacham, Sidney Rice, or whoever for a Mark Clayton or Santonio Holmes-type- a guy who came into the league with a lot of hype, has shown flashes of being a solid player but hasn't proven anything, and who is entering his 2nd or 3rd season. Even if both WRs (the one you traded and the one you got) wind up following the exact same career arc, you come out ahead because you don't have to waste a roster spot for 1-2 years while the rookie WR develops. Plus, if you are really interested in Meacham, you could always trade back for him after he's been developing on another roster for a year. Owners tend to overrate this year's rookies and underrate last year's rookies.

With respect to initial dynasty drafts, I have always thought drafting most rookie WR's early is poor from a value standpoint because the hype is higher than the substance. The opposite is true of 2nd and even some 3rd year players, especially those you may like, but who struggled some in the transition from college to the NFL. Rookie WR's almost always get drafted too early. I prefer to pass and then trade for them the following year after they don't live up to the hype, which was too high to begin with.

 

[nygiants56]

Another advantage to trading for guys that have been in the league for a while is there is generally a learning curve for WRs, meaning their first couple of years in the league are generally less productive. A great strategy is to trade unproven guys like a Meacham, Sidney Rice, or whoever for a Mark Clayton or Santonio Holmes-type- a guy who came into the league with a lot of hype, has shown flashes of being a solid player but hasn't proven anything, and who is entering his 2nd or 3rd season. Even if both WRs (the one you traded and the one you got) wind up following the exact same career arc, you come out ahead because you don't have to waste a roster spot for 1-2 years while the rookie WR develops. Plus, if you are really interested in Meacham, you could always trade back for him after he's been developing on another roster for a year. Owners tend to overrate this year's rookies and underrate last year's rookies.

With respect to initial dynasty drafts, I have always thought drafting most rookie WR's early is poor from a value standpoint because the hype is higher than the substance. The opposite is true of 2nd and even some 3rd year players, especially those you may like, but who struggled some in the transition from college to the NFL. Rookie WR's almost always get drafted too early. I prefer to pass and then trade for them the following year after they don't live up to the hype, which was too high to begin with.

all too often, people choose hyped rookie wr's thinking they've just bagged a guy who is going to put up Randy Moss type of rookie numbers, and that rarely happens..I'd much rather look for the 3rd year WR who is set to break out, than to select an overvalued rookie WR who won't contribute much during his first two seasons.