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Say the Ced Ben decision goes down after this week ... those holding their Scott "ticket" get 2 very less than appealing matchups, as Seattle has been stout vs. the run, and we all know they are a different animal at home. Then at the Titans who have stepped it up this year on the defensive side. When one factors Leonard into the mix as well, the outlook for Scott might be a decent flex play, at best. The odds of him blowing up with Ced sidelined look to be extremely slim, so talk of him wresting the gig, or a bigger share of touches, is fool's gold, IMO.Let's not discount the stability a solid producer like Benson provides that very young offense. Workmanlike, ball control, holds onto the rock, and helps move the chains ... steady, if unspectacular. There is some great young talent on that Cincy offense, and I think they are moving in a very positive direction ... don't see Benson as the long term answer as their lead RB, but Scott isn't going to be THAT guy either ... 
... methinks this lottery ticket has morphed into no more than a 2 dollar scratch off ... 
Yes.20 touches is a pretty unreasonable expectation for most RBs.He may get it. But would be unreasonable to expect it.I, too, am a holder of the Bernard Scott lottery ticket. My hopes are well tempered, after being a Scott owner on and off for years. He's been given limited opportunities before. He's never run away with them yet.Good Luck!
Assuming Scott's the RB all of us have been holding him for these weeks (years?) Leonard would only see a handful of snaps. If Leonard sees a timeshare it'll be in response to Scott crapping the bed, not the cause of it. In my eyes, Leonard's a non-issue.
"steady, if unspectacular" ... no? And "solid" enough to relegate Scott to a smattering of touches, at best. I certainly wasn't implying that he was Foster/AP/Rice, etc .. settle down.
Hmm, not a bad description but I was thinking more like "19-20 carries of crappy". Would that be enough to relegate Scott to minimal touches on another team? I dunno. Maybe Scott just isn't good. Or maybe Cincy is a poorly managed team. I'm not sure.And really with the "settle down"? I just said the use of "solid" was a little generous. Sensitive much? I'll make sure to never post a mildly contrary opinion to yours again.
Maybe, but this isn't a problem if you dropped a scrub to get him. I generally disagree with you, but even if you are right, he is one of the better non-starting RB's to own right now. He does have up side potential, especially in dynasty.
I read somewhere (and I'm sure I'm about to butcher the explanation here) that Benson not only filed an appeal of the suspension, but he also filed an appeal/complaint against the NFLPA for improper representation. Whatever Benson did, it basically made the immediate suspension come to a grinding halt. Now the ball is in the league's court regarding how to proceed. That was the gist of what I read anyway (can't remember the link) is that this situation has turned into more than a simple matter of Benson appealing the suspension.'Sweet Love said:
I agree there should be an appeals process, but this is getting rediculous. It does seem like lawyers got involved.
I get the feeling that that the NFL may loose this one. Benson can't be held accountable for his actions at a time he was not employed by due to the lockout. Roger Goodel may have made a mistake going after this.
Sure they can. The NFL is very protective of its brand image. Pryor was also suspended for several games even though he was not employed by the NFL at the time. Bottom-line, Goodell has taken a firm stance on conduct of NFL players. I see him getting a suspension, maybe reduced a game or two, but he'll still get fined or something.
The operative word is "some".Bernard Scott was a much hotter prospect when he was a 24-year-old rookie.He's 27 now. The luster has worn off somewhat. It might be on an upswing this week, but it could very well take a strong downward slide in two weeks.Of course, he could go Jerome Harrison supernova and set the world on fire.It's just a waiting game. While I'm hopeful, I'm not banking on it. If I owned him in dynasty, I'd be cautiously gauging his current value.
Well yea, but it's not like poor play has diminished his value. He hasn't had a real chance.If this year proves they don't want to use him, I may need to cut bait.
I'm not a lawyer, but if an employer can decide not to hire you based on criminal history or personal conduct, then it seems fair that the NFL can suspend for personal conduct that occurred while not under contract. It's much better than saying he can't work in the league again.
Only in 6 team leagues.Those in competitive leagues should hold onto him, since he will likely be the starter in a few weeks.
Perhaps. It appears he has a decent unfair labor practice claim (the reason he's in front of the NLRB), which really complicates this issue. I wouldn't say go out of your way to drop him, but I also wouldn't say you have to hold onto him for another guy. [i'm currently 1-4 (thanks to horrible scheduling) so I can't afford to wait 4 weeks as my RB position has been decimated by injuries. I'm opting to throw him back for some of the other options which may have a quicker impact.]
I'm not a lawyer either, but I used to be, and even dabbled in employment law. This is a more complicated issue than most on this board are willing to acknowledge. Moreover, given the unique circumstances, even if the league denies the appeal, I wouldn't be surprised if Benson's lawyers seek an injunction in civil court to further delay the sentence. I could easily foresee this dragging out the entire season (see, e.g., the Starcaps matter).
As someone who gets paid to dabble in employement & labor... I 100% agree that this is a VERY complex issue, there's a ULP filed against the Union, and that isn't something that gets handled very quickly. Benson's attorneys are (wisely) going to drag this out the entire season.
I don't think they have an option at this point. They need to Prepare Scott for Benson's (possible) suspension.
its a shame your talents are wasted informing message board grinders when you could be making good money as part of an nfl franchise.
So glad I traded Scott instead of holding him on my bench for 1 start'SouthJersey said:
Looking like a good move for the short-term, but unless Benson visited Oz for a new brain, my guess is this won't be the last thread started in Scott's honor.
Wish I did the same when I had the chance (was offered AHern for Scott when the news broke Benson would have a 3 game suspension).Now i'm gonna drop Scott this week for a bye week defense.
