Bargain Players for 2008 (1 Viewer)

[mrgerty]

Tell me about Quinn Gray and his prospects as an unrestricted free agent next year. I haven't seen him play, but the numbers, in limited action as a backup, are decent- 10 TD with 5 interceptions. My Vikes, in contrast, have been living with T-Jack and his 7 TD with 12 int's all year. Both teams boast strong running attacks and only need a QB to not kill the offense. I would love to see what Gray could do in purple next year, and I think he'd come a lot cheaper than some other options available.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Tell me about Quinn Gray and his prospects as an unrestricted free agent next year. I haven't seen him play, but the numbers, in limited action as a backup, are decent- 10 TD with 5 interceptions. My Vikes, in contrast, have been living with T-Jack and his 7 TD with 12 int's all year. Both teams boast strong running attacks and only need a QB to not kill the offense. I would love to see what Gray could do in purple next year, and I think he'd come a lot cheaper than some other options available.

There's just too much other talent out there, especially if Anderson is available this off-season.

 

[Papa Georgio]

I kinda like Terry Glenn as a nice bargain player, of course injury and age are a concern but he will be in a high powered offense.

 

[dickey moe]

Chester Taylor?

 

[SSOG]

Injured a lot early in his career, as well going through a learning curve (was a QB in college). Smart player. 50+ receptions each of the last two years (2006 and 2007), in some pretty putrid passing offenses. And again, with Martz putting focus on him... OK, I've beaten this one to death. Time to move on. BTW, Hiya SSOG!

That was actually a rhetorical question. I've been a Battle fan for a while now. I always used Battle as my example when people were blaming Chambers' catch% on his QBs, because Battle has really played with the dregs of the NFL and still manages to post a 60+% mark. He's definitely someone I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to.Also, hey right back.

 

[FavreCo]

Tell me about Quinn Gray and his prospects as an unrestricted free agent next year. I haven't seen him play, but the numbers, in limited action as a backup, are decent- 10 TD with 5 interceptions. My Vikes, in contrast, have been living with T-Jack and his 7 TD with 12 int's all year. Both teams boast strong running attacks and only need a QB to not kill the offense. I would love to see what Gray could do in purple next year, and I think he'd come a lot cheaper than some other options available.

Quinn Gray is infinately better than Tavaris Jackson. Hell, he's better than Garrard. He just will never get to show it, even though he just did.

 

[SSOG]

Tell me about Quinn Gray and his prospects as an unrestricted free agent next year. I haven't seen him play, but the numbers, in limited action as a backup, are decent- 10 TD with 5 interceptions. My Vikes, in contrast, have been living with T-Jack and his 7 TD with 12 int's all year. Both teams boast strong running attacks and only need a QB to not kill the offense. I would love to see what Gray could do in purple next year, and I think he'd come a lot cheaper than some other options available.

Quinn Gray is infinately better than Tavaris Jackson. Hell, he's better than Garrard. He just will never get to show it, even though he just did.

Offseason request for the FBGs staff: can we please get a schtick smiley?

 

[qimqam]

Lets get a discussion going on players that will be severly underrated going into 2008.Caddy- coming off of injurysucked before the injury - Definitely not as good as Graham Heap- the sameIf healthy he is a top 3-5 TE and he will be picked as a top 3-5 TE Marvin Harrison- can he return to form(watch closely in the playoffs)?He may be done ...If he is healthy he will be a steal.Lee Evans- Can be bounce back and develop a chemistry with Edwards?Sucks for half a year even when he is good Mark Clayton- What happened to him? When will D Mason drop off?Never was good and is on a bad offense with no QB ... he won't be a bargain Rudi Johnson- Can he return to form next year....will his hammy ever be the same?Will not be a bargain but any other Cinci RB could be. Hines Ward- has Holmes become the #1? He's almost always a bargain MJD-Can he beat out Fragile FredFragile Fred is pretty damn durable but he is over 30 and is bound to slow or get injured ... Because of Taylors great season he will be over valued and MJD will be a great value pick. VY- Now not in a madden curse year.No WRs to throw to ... He will be top 10-12 QB... right about where he will be pickedTravis Henry- Healthy.....no drug issues?Denver will be looking for a RB LJ- healthy, with hopefully a better line.Depends on the Oline ... This team got worse as the season went on.SA-can he become the old shaunHe's done Gore-hopefully gets a better cast around him.If he drops below the 5-6th RB taken he will be a stealLeinart-will it be warner or him?He was supposed to be a value this year and he suckedSteve Smith-better QB play has to help himSteve smith will be undervalued ... Anything will be better at QB than this yearDelhomme-he has SSHe will be top 10-12 QB... right about where he will be picked McNabb-Where will he play?He would be a great Value in Minny ... Behind that line and with those RBs he would be able to revive his own Running game and they have some good young wrs that would thrive with him.That is a list of the underachievers from this past season.

Brees could drop down to 5-6 QB and could easily end up top 3 Bulger should be way undervalued ... His Oline situation has to improveWhoever is QB for Houston ... Team on the rise Deangelo Williams - Carolina now has to realize that a: Foster sucks and b: they need to improve running the ball ...Williams should benefitMichael Bush Chris Henry ... The RB and The WR Whoever is RB for Houston

 

[kawaihae]

Tony Scheffler seems to be on the same page with Cutler, just like Witten is with Romo. Big things next year I believe, but Scheffler's under the radar because he started out the season injured.

 

[zamboni]

Laurent Robinson - WR Atl - should take over as the #1 WR maybe as soon as next year.

Roddy White is no better than a #2 WR.

Roddy's 80+ catches and 1200 yards with very uneven (to say the least) QB play says otherwise. But you're right that Robinson can be gotten much cheaper next year, and has shown some skills in limited duty.

 

[fsufan]

i try to target RBs that got hurt, older(end of career) or had bad a year

RBs that I will be targeting

R. Brown

Gore

Lewis- might not come cheap with the year he had in 07

Maroney- have to run the ball at some point

SA-depending on where he plays

 

[Blue-Kun]

Arnaz Battle has the best hands on the team. I see him as another Bobby Engram (lots of receptions, possession receiver) or Furry as well, which will make him valuable in PPR leagues next year IF San Francisco can get it together on offense next year.

I'm a SF local, word among those in the know around here is that Martz to SF is pretty much a done deal, and I can tell you right now that Battle will be his go-to, high PPR guy. He's not going to be a monster TD scorer. He's not going to be flashy. But he's going to pile up receptions like nobody's business because he will be the one WR on the team who will really have the trust of the OC. So there you go, take it or leave it, but folks shouldn't be so quick to scoff. Furrey 2006 and McDonald 2007 ought to be enough evidence, as well as the fact that Martz' style will be no different here. Pass, pass, pass, pass, regardless who the QB is.

I'm always amazed how people just dismiss Battle. He's finished in the top 40 in 06 and top 50 in 07 for PPR leagues. Battle can catch better than most WR's in the league (As SSOG pointed out, take a look at his catch % with the likes of Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer and others throwing him the ball). It reminds me of when Brandon Lloyd got all the hype for his circus grabs and the overlooked issue of him dropping the three before that. Now I may not be as high as Couch Potato here, but unless you just have the inside track on a full compliment of 5-6 WR's it would probably be worthwhile to keep track of Battle, especially if a real QB surfaces in SF.

 

[Poppa]

Arnaz Battle has the best hands on the team. I see him as another Bobby Engram (lots of receptions, possession receiver) or Furry as well, which will make him valuable in PPR leagues next year IF San Francisco can get it together on offense next year.

Out of curiosity, how many leagues are you in? I see 12 leagues in your sig.....wow, that's a lot of leagues

That's full disclosure, all 12 of my leagues. I didn't just list the winners and hide the rest. In the HyperActive1 league for example I finished 13-1 and won the league. Pasquino and Tefertiller, who post dynasty rankings for FBG, are in my conference. I point that out because teamroc posted here as if I'm some sort of idiot who knows nothing. I'm honestly trying to help people here and hope someone somewhere will listen, grab Battle and stick him on the end of their bench, and just watch.I'm a SF local, word among those in the know around here is that Martz to SF is pretty much a done deal, and I can tell you right now that Battle will be his go-to, high PPR guy. He's not going to be a monster TD scorer. He's not going to be flashy. But he's going to pile up receptions like nobody's business because he will be the one WR on the team who will really have the trust of the OC. So there you go, take it or leave it, but folks shouldn't be so quick to scoff. Furrey 2006 and McDonald 2007 ought to be enough evidence, as well as the fact that Martz' style will be no different here. Pass, pass, pass, pass, regardless who the QB is.

Hill or Lelie gonna make an opportunity over there next year...?

 

[Couch Potato]

Arnaz Battle has the best hands on the team. I see him as another Bobby Engram (lots of receptions, possession receiver) or Furry as well, which will make him valuable in PPR leagues next year IF San Francisco can get it together on offense next year.

Out of curiosity, how many leagues are you in? I see 12 leagues in your sig.....wow, that's a lot of leagues

That's full disclosure, all 12 of my leagues. I didn't just list the winners and hide the rest. In the HyperActive1 league for example I finished 13-1 and won the league. Pasquino and Tefertiller, who post dynasty rankings for FBG, are in my conference. I point that out because teamroc posted here as if I'm some sort of idiot who knows nothing. I'm honestly trying to help people here and hope someone somewhere will listen, grab Battle and stick him on the end of their bench, and just watch.I'm a SF local, word among those in the know around here is that Martz to SF is pretty much a done deal, and I can tell you right now that Battle will be his go-to, high PPR guy. He's not going to be a monster TD scorer. He's not going to be flashy. But he's going to pile up receptions like nobody's business because he will be the one WR on the team who will really have the trust of the OC. So there you go, take it or leave it, but folks shouldn't be so quick to scoff. Furrey 2006 and McDonald 2007 ought to be enough evidence, as well as the fact that Martz' style will be no different here. Pass, pass, pass, pass, regardless who the QB is.

Hill or Lelie gonna make an opportunity over there next year...?

Of course OC Hostler is through whether Nolan is fired or not so a new OC may evaluate things differently, but it looks like Hill will be the WR3 there and Lelie probably will be gone.

 

[PantherPower]

Santana Moss. I know, he's burned a LOT of us, and was probably dropped a million times earlier this year. But in 2005 he was a top 7 WR, and when he FINALLY got healthy during these last 4 or 5 games of the season, he's been a very solid #2 or #3 FF WR. I think he just needs to get a better personal trainer in the off-season, and make sure he takes care of his hamstrings. He has to have his quick burst and top speed to be effective, because he's not the biggest target obviously. I'm guessing he'll be there between the 6th-9th rounds next year. THAT would be VERY good value IMO.

 

[gman8343]

Mark Clayton - couldn't have had a worse year, but battled through various injuries along with poor play. I still believe he's a very talented WR and with a new coaching staff coming in they will hopefully try and utilize him more.

 

[David Yudkin]

People should know by now I am not the biggest Caddy backer. In 3 seasons, he's averaged 73.8 yards from scrimmage per game and a TD every 62.2 touches.

Graham in 10 full time starts this year averaged 97.3 yards from scrimmage and a TD every 25.4 touches.

Maybe they'll go back to Caddy if he's healthy, but on paper Graham has done more on average than Caddy has done.

 

[SSOG]

People should know by now I am not the biggest Caddy backer. In 3 seasons, he's averaged 73.8 yards from scrimmage per game and a TD every 62.2 touches.Graham in 10 full time starts this year averaged 97.3 yards from scrimmage and a TD every 25.4 touches.Maybe they'll go back to Caddy if he's healthy, but on paper Graham has done more on average than Caddy has done.

Caddy is overrated because of his rookie year. His rookie stats weren't even that special, and they mostly came at the expense of terrible defenses.

 

[gregjcross]

Give up the dream of DJAX, he was great a few years in SEA when not hurtThis year his leg problems were behind him and he still dropped a ton of balls. Not a premier player anymore.

I think D.Jax might be a good player to get for real cheap. He was banged up alot this year (as usual), but for the price, well worth it next year.

 

[LloydHaveMercy]

E.Graham. People might try to deal him while he was hot, I think he wins job next year, Caddy isn't the right choice.Hackett. Some owners might put the injury tag on him.

Totally agree with you.... E. Graham runs hard like Caddy but Unlike Caddy he doesn't take the same kind of punishment and thus far has been able to stay healthy.DJ Hackett, when healthy, has the potential and plays in the type of offense where he can be very dangerous.Brandon Jacobs is third in the league this year in yards per game with just over 91..... Only LT and All Day had more.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

What's the consensus on DeShawn Wynn? Grant has really done a phenomenal job and if he continues to perform like he has would win the starting job next year. But Wynn won the starting job earlier in the season. He had some good games. After the season is over, I wonder if the Packers might trade him away for a mid to late round pick. Any thoughts?

There is no way the Packers can get a mid round pick for him. I don't think they can get anything for him. They will either keep him or cut him.

No way do the Packers cut DeShawn Wynn.no way.

 

[skillz]

I am going to be following the Raiders RB situation very closely. I think there is real value in Oakland next year. Whoever ran the ball for them this year did very well. Jordan started out strong before getting in the dog house, then Fargas put up good numbers, and even Rhodes did well at the end of the season after Fargas got hurt.

I know Bush will be in the mix next year, but whoever started at RB for the Raiders this season played very well and got A LOT of carries. I think that the position will fall under the radar since none of the players are big names and the Raiders are not perceived as a great offensive team (even though they can run the ball real well). I think it's just a matter of figuring out who the RB will be since Bush will be healthy, and Fargas is a free agent.

 

[The Ref]

Interesting to see the OP say Rudi Johnson. They guy I am looking at is Kenny Watson. He was worth starting at swing in PPR when he was not starting this year, and the games he started he was money in the bank.

I'd say he may be alright in a redraft, but avoid him in dynasty leagues. He'll be 30 in March.

I kinda have a feeling the guy to watch in that situation is Kenny Irons.

I picked up both really cheap. I just dont trust Perry at all. Rudi is all but gone next year.

Rudi is not going anywhere next year, and thats kind of what I like about Watson. You will be able to get him real late and have a nice PPR upside guy. Downside is a bye week plug for Watson, upside is a Westbrook light for a few weeks when Rudi is out.Call it a gut feeling, I liked what I saw from Watson this year.

 

[Happy]

I am going to be following the Raiders RB situation very closely. I think there is real value in Oakland next year. Whoever ran the ball for them this year did very well. Jordan started out strong before getting in the dog house, then Fargas put up good numbers, and even Rhodes did well at the end of the season after Fargas got hurt. I know Bush will be in the mix next year, but whoever started at RB for the Raiders this season played very well and got A LOT of carries. I think that the position will fall under the radar since none of the players are big names and the Raiders are not perceived as a great offensive team (even though they can run the ball real well). I think it's just a matter of figuring out who the RB will be since Bush will be healthy, and Fargas is a free agent.

I agree. The RB situation in Oaktown will produce a starter RB #2 quality. I'd bet Rhodes and Jordon will be cut right after they re-sign Fargas for pennies on the dollar for a 2 year deal (typical Al move). I'd bet they start the year with Fargas as their #1, but giving Bush time to work his way into the lineup by mid season. Too bad what happened to Jordon. He'll land somewhere (with Chucky in TB?)

 

[Happy]

People should know by now I am not the biggest Caddy backer. In 3 seasons, he's averaged 73.8 yards from scrimmage per game and a TD every 62.2 touches.Graham in 10 full time starts this year averaged 97.3 yards from scrimmage and a TD every 25.4 touches.Maybe they'll go back to Caddy if he's healthy, but on paper Graham has done more on average than Caddy has done.

Graham has earned a starting role. He's been better for longer than Carnell "why didn't I name myself after a Japanese car that doesn't break down" Williams. The Cadillac has spent more time in the shop than on the field, and was unimpressive other than the first few games of his career.