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Just my annual "August NL West Stretch-Run Extravaganza" notes for all ya'll to chew on. In particular, los Dodgers and el Rockies...and to a lesser extent, the soon to be defunct, Gigantes.

Okay, the Rockies suck. Watching them this series really made it apparent to me. They swing at everything, and have some guys that just can't hit. That lineup, yeesh. Even Helton doesn't look like himself. They were talking about it tonight; how he is slower getting around on the ball, and even on D or running the bases, that he just isn't as sharp as normal. I guess he had some gnarly virus so the effects may be lingering still, but either way, he's off a bit.

Their pitching is okay, I guess, but we know now that those numbers are indeed lying. The games in Coors are skewing their numbers with those dead balls. One GM has even questioned the Rox on somehow using "dryer" balls during their AB's, but whatever. Truth is, I don't want anything to do with their home games anyway. And they could very well do some different things now that the word is out about the humidifier. Who knows? Pass.

However, the road is a different story, and I will be looking to fade them against most opponents, sans SF, who has that cat feces smell about them as well. I know Francis and Jennings are solid, I'll give them that (even on the road), but I don't really trust Francis yet in more meaningful games. And to a lesser degree Jennings, how many big games have these two faced? We'll see if it comes to that.

Anyway, look to fade the Rockies on the road, especially outside of their division.

Quick notes on the Giants, who I got to watch up there recently. They're horrible. I should just end it there because you guys know already, but even in years that they weren't that good, they could somehow ride Bonds, listen to Alou, and pull through with that stuff. It's all gone as far as I'm concerned. And their only bright spot, Schmidt (who I liked to bet), sure is stumbling down the stretch. The workhorse has been vulnerable of late, and can you fault him with that bunch? His ERA in May was 1.17...June 2.80...July 4.97 Probably little value in fading them, save for Schmidt, but it isn't ALWAYS about that for me. Sometimes I'll put up more believing it's worth it -- betting against a beaten team. Anyway, my :2cents: .

As for los Dodgers, I'm actually impressed. They'll win the NL West -- I said it. Whoopie, I know, but still. Yes, they're my team but some of you probably remember that I was fading the crap out of them last year and beyond. I knew they were but a facade. This year's different from what I can tell, and I am obviously wholly unimpressed by their competition (although I have not seen much of AZ).

The thing about the Dodgers is they are getting it going at the right time, and I can tell they are confident, with some good veteran leadership. The word here is that Perez was truly a cancer in the clubhouse and they sent that rat packing, getting Maddux instead. I know Maddux is a shell of his fomer self (and I was fading him a lot), but he can only be good for them, as far as the staff and clubhouse are concerned. They haven't had guys like that around. Also, Garciaparra and Kent just came back, and at the perfect time. Bottom line is they've assorted some solid leaders and competitors next to the young talent they have going. I like it.

For example, snapping that winning streak last night was a good barometer of their mettle. That is, they would typically come back tonight and stink up the joint because that was a hard loss with a bad play at the end. But instead they win with a walk-off single by Lofton. I can just tell that they expect to beat these other NL West teams, which has not been the case the last few years.

We'll see, of course, if I'm right about any of this, but that's where I'm at right now.

Oh, a couple of more things on the Dodgers: I wouldn't touch Billingsley -- kid can't throw strikes. Another tidbit is they continue to crush lefties, hitting over .300. And keep in mind, I would fade almost all of this division when they play outside of it, if it looks right of course (see: Padres @ Mets the last 3 days).

Anyway, good luck ya sickos... :bye:

 
I actually just played the Dodgers to win it all at 25:1 today for a unit. I what they have going and in the NL anything is possible. They will either get the Mets or Cards in round 1. I'm not scared of either team. Both pitching staffs are weak behind their aces, Pedro and Carpenter. After all, Brad Penny was the one who started the all star game. Lowe has been there done that with the Sox starting game 7 of the 04 ALCS and Maddux is still solid. If they just make the postseason I think this bet is hedgeable.

 
Just my annual "August NL West Stretch-Run Extravaganza" notes for all ya'll to chew on. In particular, los Dodgers and el Rockies...and to a lesser extent, the soon to be defunct, Gigantes.

Okay, the Rockies suck. Watching them this series really made it apparent to me. They swing at everything, and have some guys that just can't hit. That lineup, yeesh. Even Helton doesn't look like himself. They were talking about it tonight; how he is slower getting around on the ball, and even on D or running the bases, that he just isn't as sharp as normal. I guess he had some gnarly virus so the effects may be lingering still, but either way, he's off a bit.

Their pitching is okay, I guess, but we know now that those numbers are indeed lying. The games in Coors are skewing their numbers with those dead balls. One GM has even questioned the Rox on somehow using "dryer" balls during their AB's, but whatever. Truth is, I don't want anything to do with their home games anyway. And they could very well do some different things now that the word is out about the humidifier. Who knows? Pass.

However, the road is a different story, and I will be looking to fade them against most opponents, sans SF, who has that cat feces smell about them as well. I know Francis and Jennings are solid, I'll give them that (even on the road), but I don't really trust Francis yet in more meaningful games. And to a lesser degree Jennings, how many big games have these two faced? We'll see if it comes to that.

Anyway, look to fade the Rockies on the road, especially outside of their division.

Quick notes on the Giants, who I got to watch up there recently. They're horrible. I should just end it there because you guys know already, but even in years that they weren't that good, they could somehow ride Bonds, listen to Alou, and pull through with that stuff. It's all gone as far as I'm concerned. And their only bright spot, Schmidt (who I liked to bet), sure is stumbling down the stretch. The workhorse has been vulnerable of late, and can you fault him with that bunch? His ERA in May was 1.17...June 2.80...July 4.97 Probably little value in fading them, save for Schmidt, but it isn't ALWAYS about that for me. Sometimes I'll put up more believing it's worth it -- betting against a beaten team. Anyway, my :2cents: .

As for los Dodgers, I'm actually impressed. They'll win the NL West -- I said it. Whoopie, I know, but still. Yes, they're my team but some of you probably remember that I was fading the crap out of them last year and beyond. I knew they were but a facade. This year's different from what I can tell, and I am obviously wholly unimpressed by their competition (although I have not seen much of AZ).

The thing about the Dodgers is they are getting it going at the right time, and I can tell they are confident, with some good veteran leadership. The word here is that Perez was truly a cancer in the clubhouse and they sent that rat packing, getting Maddux instead. I know Maddux is a shell of his fomer self (and I was fading him a lot), but he can only be good for them, as far as the staff and clubhouse are concerned. They haven't had guys like that around. Also, Garciaparra and Kent just came back, and at the perfect time. Bottom line is they've assorted some solid leaders and competitors next to the young talent they have going. I like it.

For example, snapping that winning streak last night was a good barometer of their mettle. That is, they would typically come back tonight and stink up the joint because that was a hard loss with a bad play at the end. But instead they win with a walk-off single by Lofton. I can just tell that they expect to beat these other NL West teams, which has not been the case the last few years.

We'll see, of course, if I'm right about any of this, but that's where I'm at right now.

Oh, a couple of more things on the Dodgers: I wouldn't touch Billingsley -- kid can't throw strikes. Another tidbit is they continue to crush lefties, hitting over .300. And keep in mind, I would fade almost all of this division when they play outside of it, if it looks right of course (see: Padres @ Mets the last 3 days).

Anyway, good luck ya sickos... :bye:
Arizona will win the NL west :yes:
 
Two plays I will likely book when i get home:

Cincy/Phill O 10.5 - just look at the starters and the arsonists in each pen

balt/Bos O 11 - Ditto -

 
Nice hit on LA last night gents - I was passed out! :bag:

Today's plays:

Cincinnati Reds/Philadelphia Phillies OVER 10.5 -117

E. Ramirez must start S. Mathieson must start - these two teams played a marathon last night and neither starter impresses me.

G2 Kansas City Royals/G2 Cleveland Indians OVER 10.5 - 113

J. De La Rosa must start J. Guthrie must start - Game two of a doubleheader - entierh starter in is impressive and both bullies are bad - esp when one considers it will be the third game in 24 hours both clubs

GLTA

 
Nice hit on LA last night gents - I was passed out! :bag:Today's plays:Cincinnati Reds/Philadelphia Phillies OVER 10.5 -117 E. Ramirez must start S. Mathieson must start - these two teams played a marathon last night and neither starter impresses me.G2 Kansas City Royals/G2 Cleveland Indians OVER 10.5 - 113 J. De La Rosa must start J. Guthrie must start - Game two of a doubleheader - entierh starter in is impressive and both bullies are bad - esp when one considers it will be the third game in 24 hours both clubsGLTA
The Reds used Ramirez last night as he pitched in the 14th inning. Very interesting thing to me.
 
Went to the White Sox game on Thursday and grabbed Vazquez at +115 for a quarter unit

Made it well worth the rain delay :D

Anyways, haven't placed a bet since then and don't really see anything I like today. :o

Might look to tail someone here. :bye:

 
Nice hit on LA last night gents - I was passed out! :bag:Today's plays:Cincinnati Reds/Philadelphia Phillies OVER 10.5 -117 E. Ramirez must start S. Mathieson must start - these two teams played a marathon last night and neither starter impresses me.G2 Kansas City Royals/G2 Cleveland Indians OVER 10.5 - 113 J. De La Rosa must start J. Guthrie must start - Game two of a doubleheader - entierh starter in is impressive and both bullies are bad - esp when one considers it will be the third game in 24 hours both clubsGLTA
Good job! :banned:
 
bump for today. I dont see anything I really like but I am not going to let that stop me. I am looking to tail someone. :D

I did hit Pitt+101 yesterday and I may go the well again with them.Pitt is a dog system play today.

I missed the Fla/AZ U yesterday by 1/2 run.(Hey Cappy I said run instead of point :pickle: )

 
NYY -153

Wang is undefeated in last 6, winning 5 of them. Guy has been very, very good. Going against Weaver at home, I think Yanks roll today.

2 units

 
Big card for me today...

2 Units Each

Mets Traschel -121

Cardinals Marquis -118

Mariners Hernandez +110

Put 2 Underdog ML Parlays in for today and I like them both...

1/2 Unit Parlay

KC Hudson +173

LAA Weaver +140

Luke Hudson has been borderline great his last five starts and I think he represents KC's best chance to avoid a sweep today. They were in every game vs. Cleveland and I think luck bounces their way today.

I know Wang and the Yankees are rolling right now, but I can't pass up Weaver +140. In any other MLB year, this kid is rookie of the year. He's getting outshined by Verlander and Papplebon.

1 Unit Parlay

Baltimore Cabrera +142

Toronto Marcum +133

I really like this play as I'm going up against two beatable starters in Lester and Radke who have been fairly weak of late.

 
I added KC +178 after reading GMs post.

Looks like you guys are going opposite of me on the other games I posted above. :kicksrock:

That makes me worry.

 
General Malaise said:
Big card for me today...

2 Units Each

Mets Traschel -121

Cardinals Marquis -118

Mariners Hernandez +110

Put 2 Underdog ML Parlays in for today and I like them both...

1/2 Unit Parlay

KC Hudson +173

LAA Weaver +140

Luke Hudson has been borderline great his last five starts and I think he represents KC's best chance to avoid a sweep today. They were in every game vs. Cleveland and I think luck bounces their way today.

I know Wang and the Yankees are rolling right now, but I can't pass up Weaver +140. In any other MLB year, this kid is rookie of the year. He's getting outshined by Verlander and Papplebon.

1 Unit Parlay

Baltimore Cabrera +142

Toronto Marcum +133

I really like this play as I'm going up against two beatable starters in Lester and Radke who have been fairly weak of late.
Holy F ucking christ. :X :X :X :X :X :X :X :X Going to double the bet on Hernandez and add 4 units on Jason Schmidt EV....

oh man.

 
Today sucks :bag: What about SF/LAD U8.5 -125?I am thinking maybe I should just stop but you know how it is. :banned:
I drained my account on SF and Sea. We'll see. If it goes down bad, we'll start another excel sheet tomorrow!This is like getting it all back on the Monday Night game!
 
Hey gents - no plays thus far for me after 2-0 yesterday - apparently not getting the chance to place any bets this am was a good thing ( I was at the Jake for the 4th time in 5 days and that first inning was UGLY - I had no idea ya'll were on KC);

I like the over in Seat/Tex tonight - Millwood is horrific at home and Felix has been OK, but not great - Me thinks that the total of 9 in the TEX heat, even at night, will be reached.

I will be traveling all day tomorrow so I have to get tomorrow's wagers in tonight - if any. I see Pedro is only -137 against Philly - why does that seem incredibly, too good to be true, low?

I also like ATL/WAS over 9.5. James of ATL is pretty bad, and Washington can hit. ATL can outright mash and the Wash. staff as a whole is pretty lousy. I don't think getting this game to 10 will be that tough.

GLTA

 
Sea/Tex o9 is now +100

Decided to play it for 2 units, just for the helluva it. Texas offense is more than capable of putting up 9 runs on any given night, and Millwood isn't the kind of pitcher I see throwing a no-hitter.

g'luck

 
Help me out here...

If Jason Schmidt were going up against Greg Maddox 2 months ago, what would the lines be?

I know this much. It wouldn't be no Schmidt EV as it is now.

I don't know a lot about much, but I know Schmidt's been a good pitcher for a few years and I know when I see his name at the betting window, there ain't much "EV" out to the right.

Whatever. I don't care. I'm drunk and mad.

Hernandez has been lights out of late. Texas is a good team, but a win here is a sweep of the Mariners. They aren't that far apart in terms of talent. I like Seattle to get one game to avoid the sweep.

 
Pinny was begging me to take the Texas/Seattle Under 9 +115 at post. So I did. I also have Under 9 +105 and +110 I believe. I'm opposite of everyone, maybe it will land on 9.

Texas, LA, LA Over, Texas Under are my plays. Various plays, all over the map.

GM - you are right, if this game is played even 3 weeks ago when the Dodgers are in their 8 game losing streak and trotting out Maddux (even though they didn't have him) I'd say Schmidt is -120 to -130. But, recent form is complete opposite. No wild card team has been worse since the all-star break than SF and nobody has been hotter than LA. I think getting the Dodgers at +102 was a good bet. I made the bet this morning at Mansion.

I think on a neutral field this game is even to me. Schmidt is better than Maddux, but LA's offense is better than SF. Then tack on something like 16 cents for home field, I think it should be LA -110 or so, but that's just my opinion.

Good luck everyone.

 

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