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Bathroom remodel (1 Viewer)
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quiksilver
Footballguy
Agreed. Had to fire my contractor today midway through.
T J
Footballguy
Big remodel of my kids bathroom upstairs. No - not doing it myself. New tub, electrical, new toilet, new medicine cabinets, new lights, new exhaust, new paint, new tile floor, tile around tub, all new fixtures, new vanity - going from one sink to two. Shared by my two teenage sons.
Quoted me 9-10 days. At 15 now with at least two more to go, but a day revisit when a different shower door comes in.
i ordered the vanity and shower door on Wayfair and had the contractor look over what I was ordering before I ordered it to make sure everything would work. I'll come back to that.
I have an office I can go to but can thankfully work from home which I choose to do while they're in the house working.
First day during demo, they cut through the water line with a sawz all (sp?) and I hear an "oh s@@t!" They holler at me to turn the water off, which is in the basement. I'm on the main level so I run downstairs to turn it off, come back upstairs and there's water pouring out of my ceiling onto my kitchen island and floor.
2nd day, plumber was there to install tub. A-ok there, but I called attention to the new vanity having two sinks as opposed to the currently centered single water lines. Plumber tells me the contractor is only having him do the tub. I ask the contractor's guys and they say they'll split it off later. I say ok.
They get all the drywall done, tile done, painting done etc.. Looking good and then they take the vanity out of the Wayfair packing and see that they can't split the water lines. There are drawers there. So they've got to cut a large hole in my wall, cap the original plumbing, and completely redo the plumbing to allow for the two sinks. They want to leave this large hole in my wall saying you can't see it because it's hidden by the vanity. Well, you can if you open the door on the vanity - big time. So I say no, it needs dry walled and painted, so that's eating time.
And then here lastly, the shower door apparently is for tiled enclosures only, not an enclosure. I have a one piece enclosure but tiled the walls above it and trimmed out the outside of it. So now I have to ship that back and temporarily use a shower curtain.
turned the hot water in the tub on a little bit ago and it gets warm, but not hot. The handle will not go as far as it needs to go. It stops half way. Will be pointing this out when they're here tomorrow.
Sorry, venting, but part of me wants to think crap like this is just how it goes - problems happen. The other part of me is thinking these guys suck and I just ended up with a bad contractor. This is about a $12k project so I don't feel like I went cheap.
Anyway....
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Very true. Don't get me wrong, I'd probably make similar mistakes, but I'm just a hack, not a pro.
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
Venting is what we're here for.
I love watching HGTV shows, so I am imagining what your remodel would be like on TV! It would have made a great episode of something.
Make sure you are documenting all of the f-ups that are happening. When it is all done, go to the contractor and maybe try to get some of the $$$ back. Did they do the repairs in the kitchen?
Hopefully the vent helped some. Keep it coming if it does!!
playin4beer
Footballguy
Following along because my next big project is to gut and redo my daughter's bathroom.. Similar circumstance.. one long vanity with one sink.. 4 teenage daughters..
I want to replace everything.. tub/shower, toilet, flooring, vanity, fixtures and go from one sink to two...or hell, three.. lol.. or a 48" long sink "trough"
I want to replace everything.. tub/shower, toilet, flooring, vanity, fixtures and go from one sink to two...or hell, three.. lol.. or a 48" long sink "trough"
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Not uncommon at all. For too many they do that work not because they enjoy working with their hands and doing that type of work but because they lack the capacity or the will power or the ability to pass background on other type of work and thus went into the industry as semi-skilled labor and never advanced from the semi part.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
Two years ago I had water leak from the upstairs bathroom through the ceiling in the kitchen below. Went from replacing the ceiling in the kitchen to also replacing the counter top, sink, electrical, plumbing and a complete remodel of the bathroom upstairs along with altering a spare room next to it.
We were out of our house for a month while the work was done. We did some of the work but hired out the rest. I'm very lucky that my friend is a carpenter and my brother in law does plumbing and electric. The whole thing worked out great because last year we sold our house and were able to get all that money invested back out of it. It wasn't planned to go that way.
We were out of our house for a month while the work was done. We did some of the work but hired out the rest. I'm very lucky that my friend is a carpenter and my brother in law does plumbing and electric. The whole thing worked out great because last year we sold our house and were able to get all that money invested back out of it. It wasn't planned to go that way.
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
I was interested because I am also nearing having to redo a teen bathroom. I believe my issue has to do with stupid teen boys, rather than too many girls in the room at once.
It is a small room with a bath/shower combo and a single sink vanity. We had an issue recently with a leak that we were unable to exactly find, it bled thru the ceiling to the family room below. We believe it was due to the inside shower curtain not being properly located in the tub while the shower was on (see above about boys ). We have since had a leak due to the toilet overflowing. My fear is that there is some larger issue with the sub-floor because a toilet overflow shouldn't flow thru to the room below.
We're wondering if a need to replace part of the sub-floor will cause us to be able to replace the vanity, a constantly clogging toilet and other cosmetic changes as well.
It is a small room with a bath/shower combo and a single sink vanity. We had an issue recently with a leak that we were unable to exactly find, it bled thru the ceiling to the family room below. We believe it was due to the inside shower curtain not being properly located in the tub while the shower was on (see above about boys
). We have since had a leak due to the toilet overflowing. My fear is that there is some larger issue with the sub-floor because a toilet overflow shouldn't flow thru to the room below.We're wondering if a need to replace part of the sub-floor will cause us to be able to replace the vanity, a constantly clogging toilet and other cosmetic changes as well.
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
I too have done the bathroom remodel from 1 sink to a double sink to accommodate the teenage folk living in my house - it is a pain and I am luck my BIL is handy with crap like that or I would have been screwed. Your contractor is a moron. Good Luck!
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Would have been cheaper to rent a porta John for a few years til the kids were out of the house.
T J
Footballguy
dino259
Footballguy
We are basically redoing our bathroom after having it done as part of a kitchen and bath remodel started last June. Vanity is so angled back to the wall that the drawers don't stay open. The flooring wasn't run under the cabinet but at least an inch around it that they needed to put baseboard and shoe around it. Oh yeah, they used nice oak baseboard and shoe around a dark cherry colored vanity.
The best part was that they put the toilet paper holder where the hand towel holder was supposed to go and the hand towel holder was where the toilet paper holder was supposed to go. I do not know how they got the roll of toilet paper on it.
The best part was that they put the toilet paper holder where the hand towel holder was supposed to go and the hand towel holder was where the toilet paper holder was supposed to go. I do not know how they got the roll of toilet paper on it.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Lmao at them trying to talk you into leaving a hole in the wall. "Think of it as having extra storage".
shadyridr
Footballguy
Punxsutawney Phil
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
This is just another example of why competent contractors can make a ton of money. More kids should learn basic homebuilding skills such as framing, drywall, painting, and tile. They can work with an established contractor for a few years and then go on their own to make a ton of money.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Doing a full renovation of our master bathroom and so many decisions. Taking out the whirlpool tub and putting in a large walk-in shower with a bench and 3 shower heads. That part is decided as we never use the tub anymore.
Right now we need to decide on a single or double sink for the vanity. We have had a double forever. I want a single, my wife is undecided. The single I found makes the bathroom look much bigger. Bottom line is since we had the double have we have never brushed our teeth or used both sinks at the same time. One just collected dust. Only two of us live there now and we have 4 bathrooms so plenty of sinks.
One or two?
Right now we need to decide on a single or double sink for the vanity. We have had a double forever. I want a single, my wife is undecided. The single I found makes the bathroom look much bigger. Bottom line is since we had the double have we have never brushed our teeth or used both sinks at the same time. One just collected dust. Only two of us live there now and we have 4 bathrooms so plenty of sinks.
One or two?
gianmarco
Footballguy
ChatGPT to the rescue:
You're thinking about this clearly, and the case for a single sink in your situation is strong:
Reasons to Go With a Single Sink
1. Functionally Unused Double Sink: You’ve had a double sink for years and never used both simultaneously—this is the biggest red flag against keeping two.
2. Space Gains: A single sink frees up counter space and under-sink storage, which is usually more valuable in daily use.
3. Design Flexibility: It creates a cleaner, more open look—especially important when you're already removing the tub to create a more spa-like, open master bath.
4. Lifestyle Match: It's just the two of you, and you have 4 other bathrooms. The “resale” concern about double sinks doesn’t apply as strongly when the rest of the house is well-equipped.
What Might Sway Toward Two Sinks
If your wife prefers her own space for things like makeup or skincare—even if the sink basin isn't needed, sometimes couples like separate zones.
If you’re thinking about resale value, some buyers do expect double sinks in a master bath. But honestly, if the bathroom is beautifully renovated and well-designed, this won’t be a deal-breaker.
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Suggestion
If your wife is undecided and you’re leaning toward a single, you might:
Mock it up: Tape off the dimensions on your vanity wall and counter for both setups. Let her visualize the added space.
Focus on “zone” design: Even with one sink, you can each have a dedicated side of the counter with mirrors, outlets, and storage.
You already know the answer—you’re not using the second sink. If it didn’t bother you before, it won’t start now. Go with a single and enjoy the more open, functional space.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Good points.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Yes, those are very solid, well-reasoned points, and your instincts are right on track. Here's how to think about it:
Unless your wife has strong feelings toward having her own sink area, you’re making the right call by leaning toward a single sink. The space you gain—both visually and physically—has more real-world value than a second unused basin. You’re not just picking a sink, you’re designing how you want the space to feel. That’s the win.
Why These Are Good Points:
- Practicality wins: You’re not using both sinks now, and behavior is the best indicator of future needs.
- Better use of space: Especially in a master bath aiming for a serene, spa-like feel, that extra counter or storage space can make a big difference.
- Design matters more than tradition: The resale argument for double sinks gets weaker when the overall renovation is high quality and the rest of the home has plenty of bathrooms.
How You
- Confident — This isn’t a risky or impulsive decision. It’s tailored to how you actually live.
- Empowered — You’re thinking like a designer and a homeowner: making decisions for your lifestyle rather than vague "what if" buyers.
- Collaborative — You’re still leaving room for your wife’s preferences, and offering a visual mockup is a smart, respectful way to include her.
Final Take:
Unless your wife has strong feelings toward having her own sink area, you’re making the right call by leaning toward a single sink. The space you gain—both visually and physically—has more real-world value than a second unused basin. You’re not just picking a sink, you’re designing how you want the space to feel. That’s the win.
How have you never used the sinks at the same time? We use ours everyday at the same time.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
We are renovating ours and moving from one sink to two. Removing the tub to create more space in the room for it. But we are routinely both trying to get ready at the same time in the morning to go to work.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
So you're going with a walk-in shower?
I've been thinking of doing this for a while now. Not because I want to double the sink area, but because I'm getting older and my mobility has decreased. I've gotten to the point where I have to almost make a plan going in and out over the tub wall so I don't kill myself
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Our master bathroom had both a walk-in shower and a separate tub. We’ve lived there about 13 years and could count the number of times either of us used the tub on one hand. Still keeping a tub in the kid’s bathroom though; so, if we really need it for some reason, still one in the house.So you're going with a walk-in shower?
I've been thinking of doing this for a while now. Not because I want to double the sink area, but because I'm getting older and my mobility has decreased. I've gotten to the point where I have to almost make a plan going in and out over the tub wall so I don't kill myself
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Our contractor is a good friend and very good at his job. My wife and I kept saying we couldn’t imagine doing this with some yahoo stranger as we redid the entire downstairs. Took a couple months.
Kanil
Footballguy
Our master bathroom had both a walk-in shower and a separate tub. We’ve lived there about 13 years and could count the number of times either of us used the tub on one hand. Still keeping a tub in the kid’s bathroom though; so, if we really need it for some reason, still one in the house.So you're going with a walk-in shower?
I've been thinking of doing this for a while now. Not because I want to double the sink area, but because I'm getting older and my mobility has decreased. I've gotten to the point where I have to almost make a plan going in and out over the tub wall so I don't kill myself
I'm a big bath guy and won't ever live in a house that doesn't have a bathtub. That said, we got rid of the one in the master and just have the walk-in shower. We have a guest bathroom that has a 6-foot-long tub in it that I'll use when I do take a bath (probably two to three times a week). Having the extra room in the master was well worth the extra steps I have to take when taking a bath.
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Chemical X
Footballguy
we have demolished 1 bathroom in our 500+ yr old house to add a tub for the mrs. x. i wish i could explain what needs to be done here. essentially, to create more space they are creating a hole that is 30cm into a hyper thick stone wall that is 150cm wide and 218 cm high. the boulders they are jackhamming out of the wall are epic.Our master bathroom had both a walk-in shower and a separate tub. We’ve lived there about 13 years and could count the number of times either of us used the tub on one hand. Still keeping a tub in the kid’s bathroom though; so, if we really need it for some reason, still one in the house.So you're going with a walk-in shower?
I've been thinking of doing this for a while now. Not because I want to double the sink area, but because I'm getting older and my mobility has decreased. I've gotten to the point where I have to almost make a plan going in and out over the tub wall so I don't kill myself
I'm a big bath guy and won't ever live in a house that doesn't have a bathtub. That said, we got rid of the one in the master and just have the walk-in shower. We have a guest bathroom that has a 6-foot-long tub in it that I'll use when I do take a bath (probably two to three times a week). Having the extra room in the master was well worth the extra steps I have to take when taking a bath.
encaitar
Footballguy
Just remdoled my master last year. Did almost exactly what you are doing. Took out the tub and made a huge walk in shower. Greatest thing in history. Only problem is it is so nice I don't want to get out. Huge overhead rain shower head is the way to go---trust me.
Also went from two sinks to one. We also realized we never use the bathroom at the same time... I am out of the house by the time she's up. No reason to waste the space on a second sink. It allowed us to put in more cabinet space and now I can't imagine the bathroom without the extra cabinet space.
Also went from two sinks to one. We also realized we never use the bathroom at the same time... I am out of the house by the time she's up. No reason to waste the space on a second sink. It allowed us to put in more cabinet space and now I can't imagine the bathroom without the extra cabinet space.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Trough sink for the win.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
We will eventually upgrade to a walk in shower but were waiting till the kids are officially moved out.
My only suggestion (that you didnt ask for) is make sure the bench is far enough away from the showerhead and the shower is big enough that you dont need a door (just an opening)
My only suggestion (that you didnt ask for) is make sure the bench is far enough away from the showerhead and the shower is big enough that you dont need a door (just an opening)
A bathroom remodeling isn't that difficult but it is solely dependent upon the contractor you use. You chose badly on that front. Best way to find a good one is by word of mouth. The best contractors usually don't advertise because they are bust enough through word of mouth referrals.
You are much better off putting in a lot of leg work to find a good contractor. Go see their work (good contractors have no problem giving you referrels) and talk to the home owners about housekeeping, upcharging etc.
Once you find a good one. Don't lose their number. We have done two kitchen remodels, 4 bathroom remodels and various other cabinetry work all with the same guy. All the projects were done well......not necessarily smoothly. Issues will always come up but the important thing is how they get resolved. Communication is the key.
You are much better off putting in a lot of leg work to find a good contractor. Go see their work (good contractors have no problem giving you referrels) and talk to the home owners about housekeeping, upcharging etc.
Once you find a good one. Don't lose their number. We have done two kitchen remodels, 4 bathroom remodels and various other cabinetry work all with the same guy. All the projects were done well......not necessarily smoothly. Issues will always come up but the important thing is how they get resolved. Communication is the key.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Im not a fan of using a do-it-all contractor. A bathroom remodel is several separate trades.
Demo
Carpenter
Plumber
electrician
drywall
painter
Construction is 90% scheduling.
A good GC is gold. Then they handle the schedule and subs. They have experience and know their subs. Much better than having to find good tradesmen in your own. But the key is getting a quality GC. A bad one can screw things up quickly.
As a secondary shower head they are good. As the only option....not so much. Usually they don't have sufficient pressure.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I hear ya. My issue still stands, whether there's 1, 2, 3 or more shower heads.
But I'm still asked to include them and have them in around 75% if the projects I do.
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