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Pretty silly if you ask me. Even if you're gaining an average of 12 points per week, those soft weeks are going to sting. I haven't studied it, but will be interested in the thought process behind some of these bids in a survivor best ball league.
he must really want LT. Given that LT wont have a recording breaking season this year (maybe) plus an almost 10 point hole, going to be tough to win it.
It's not just LT though...getting the #32 and #33 are pretty valuable as well. The value really drops off in the middle of the third round IMHO...which is why you get doubly screwed if you are drafting at the end of the first round in a normal serpentine in this format.
Things always look bright for the LT/LJ/SJax owners in spring when their second string RB still has a sniff of hope at starting. I still see talent available (Fred has a good draft), but the long wait between picks can kill you on a run if the rest of the league zigs while you zag after talent.LHUCKS said:
Although LJ was drafted first on several occasions, I looked at the LT owners in the SSLs. Looks like 2 bit the dust before week 3 and 4 (LT's bye and 10 point week). One would have gone down in week 4 regardless, the other would have been out if they have paid 6 points.A quick glance at the LJ owners shows one was dead in week 3 regardless, one cleared easily, and two had 11 and 18 points to spot. Week 6 (12 points for LJ) claims the other two if they are spotting 5 or more points.
This idea sounds like fun also.....blind bid, not knowing if you are going too high or not. Miss out, try again.
I doubt that - some playas just waiting to make their moveBUT I talked with Rad about this earlier and I think we need a FIRM deadline on Friday - doesn't mean we might not end it earlier if there are no bids, just that everyone should be aware cuz we certainly aren't going to be looking at this over the weekend.
I thought this through though last night and a firm deadline wouldn't work. You'd have people "sniping" each other's bids at the last moment (like bidding on something on EBay). Those people who could be around their computer during the last 60 seconds of the bidding would have an advantage. No way I could see this working. I've also been talking with wannabee about potentially increasing the minimum bid increments on a daily basis (similar to raising the blinds in poker). I think the minimum bids should have been higher in the first place (maybe somewhere between .10 and .20 points). The problem I have is changing the rules in midstream so I wanted to get some feedback from the participants as to if they would want to implement a process to increase the minimum bid increment. Please give me your opinion on this in this thread. I could go either way on this but some people have expressed that they'd like to have this wrapped up prior to the draft this weekend. Thanks.
Wait, people saw that the bidding wouldn't end until a 6 hour period passed w/o somebody bidding and thought it'd end quickly?
Moving up the increments .10 every 12-24 hour span seems fair. It's not the unknown quantity of blind bidding and people would be forced to make moves or just stand pat.
I thought this through though last night and a firm deadline wouldn't work. You'd have people "sniping" each other's bids at the last moment (like bidding on something on EBay). Those people who could be around their computer during the last 60 seconds of the bidding would have an advantage. No way I could see this working. I've also been talking with wannabee about potentially increasing the minimum bid increments on a daily basis (similar to raising the blinds in poker). I think the minimum bids should have been higher in the first place (maybe somewhere between .10 and .20 points). The problem I have is changing the rules in midstream so I wanted to get some feedback from the participants as to if they would want to implement a process to increase the minimum bid increment. Please give me your opinion on this in this thread. I could go either way on this but some people have expressed that they'd like to have this wrapped up prior to the draft this weekend. Thanks.
Oh, and thanks to Rad for a new idea for a Survivor league.
If you were to graduate the minimum bid to whole points (Thursday = 1 pt increment, Friday = 2 pt increments) that might alleviate some of the sniping. Or at least give them pause.It may be a little extreme, but bids typically have a distinct deadline and we don't.
that is too much. im thinking most of the remaining bidding will be for the lower slots(12-16)and if we bump the increments up it benefits the higher slots because there will be less of a differential. that may cause more bidding on the top spots.
Okay. How about not messing with the increments and instead shorten the inactivity time to 4 hours. Maybe this thing will end during the draft.
Good suggestion. I thought about doing this too, but I'd like to see if this change will make enough impact. I'd hate for someone to get caught at work and get stuck in a slot that they didn't want.
I said that because most of the bidding has shifted to the later half of the draft order, and with smaller increments.Captain Hook said:renesauz said:I doubt that - some playas just waiting to make their moveBUT I talked with Rad about this earlier and I think we need a FIRM deadline on Friday - doesn't mean we might not end it earlier if there are no bids, just that everyone should be aware cuz we certainly aren't going to be looking at this over the weekend.
was just going to post that. ill pm him
Since his bid was not technically valid, is the clock still running?
Since his bid was not technically valid, is the clock still running?
I PM'd Radballs to bring everything to his attention.Either Valence needs to redo his bid - to abide by the rules. Or we need to say it's been 6 hours since the last legit bid and the draft order is set.I don't care either way - I just think we should figure it out sooner, rather than later.Since his bid was not technically valid, is the clock still running?
The first one. If there are no further bids by 6:55 PM ET, then the bidding and positions are closed.
Nope. I saw it...and ended up very close to where I had counted on ending before we ever started bidding....with no penalties. I honestly believe our first 4 or 5 drafters are dead already in this format...they overpaid for the right to pick early. Barring another record setting year from LT, he isn't worth a nine point per week penalty. Even with it, the rest of the drafted squad will need to be spot on to cover his bye week, and the inevitable week he gets shut down. I was actually hoping to end up as the fist guy picking at 0 or 0.05, but didn't want to risk it when the minimum bid went up, and the bids had slowed to a crawl.
Interested why you would want the show to get on the road........Rad (or BNB) had already posted that the draft would not begin until the SSL's were over.On the topic of driving up the bids, open bidding effects everybody, because your tactics become very clear within a few bids. I believe you would have been more aggressive if it were a blind bid system. Blind bidding to a non-partisan "bid handler" would be much more exciting & challenging.Just my :twocents:
A good two cents and definately an interesting angle for the future. I think the goal here was to establish the "value" of draft spots among a group of seasoned drafters and that you guys accomplished that. I've enjoyed watching this.
The winner of this league comes from the back half of the draft, unless they draft like Lhucks.
