Beannie in 2010 (1 Viewer)

[Blackjacks]

With the addition of All-Pro Alen Faneca

Cardinals reach deal with veteran OG Faneca

Cardinals agreed to terms with OG Alan Faneca on a one-year, $2.5 million contract, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Do you think Beannie can put up top ten numbers this year?

I have him as my number 1 sleeper this year.

What do you all think........................................................

 

[lynx4ben]

Flipping stud

 

[H8fulHuck]

Even without Faneca, Beanie was looking like a great prospect this year. He probably won't be much of a sleeper pick come September.

 

[noneother]

He's my number2. No not davenport 2. I think this guy lights it up this year. Just hoping lienart can keep opposing lbs and dbs honest. Gonna start him very week over moreno

 

[Aardvarks]

1250 yards, 10-12 rushing TDs, defintely worthy of a 2nd round pick in 10- and 12-man leagues. For those who go RB-RB Beanie is a great 2nd pick.

 

[Blackjacks]

Even without Faneca, Beanie was looking like a great prospect this year. He probably won't be much of a sleeper pick come September.

I haven't seen him anywhere in the top 10 right now. Most places have him around 16-20.Maybe he climbs into the top 12 by drafts but I serioulsy see him topping that projection and perhaps into the top 5 .

 

[Eminence]

Was targetting him regardless. Put up some very nice numbers in a pass-oriented offense. We'll be running more now.

 

[NajehHejan]

I think Beanie is a solid RB2 for redraft leagues. I do like the Cards to run quite a bit this year. Hightower will vulture some TD's but I think Wells will definitely carry the load. 1,200 total yards seems reasonable with 10 TD's.

Am curious as to how folks would rank Wells as a keeper league prospect versus some of the rookie RBs like Spiller, Mathews, and Best (i.e. would you rather keep Wells and forego one of these 3 or cut Wells loose and target one of these 3 guys).

 

[ty247]

Even without Faneca, Beanie was looking like a great prospect this year. He probably won't be much of a sleeper pick come September.

I haven't seen him anywhere in the top 10 right now. Most places have him around 16-20.Maybe he climbs into the top 12 by drafts but I serioulsy see him topping that projection and perhaps into the top 5 :( .

The Beanie Wells avatar might lead me to believe you might be a little high on your projections lol.He's going to put up some good numbers, but I don't see him taking over as a 3 down back and I think Hightower still get's a share of the load.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Even without Faneca, Beanie was looking like a great prospect this year. He probably won't be much of a sleeper pick come September.

I haven't seen him anywhere in the top 10 right now. Most places have him around 16-20.Maybe he climbs into the top 12 by drafts but I serioulsy see him topping that projection and perhaps into the top 5 :( .

He's definitely top 10 dynasty (at least for me).

 

[karmarooster]

a PPR top ten? i'd say that's doubtful with Hightower stealing all 3rd down duty and catching 45+. I'd rate beanie as a 3rd round value off the top of my head.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Alan Faneca is almost as old as me. There are better reasons for being high on Beanie.

 

[DoubleG]

a PPR top ten? i'd say that's doubtful with Hightower stealing all 3rd down duty and catching 45+. I'd rate beanie as a 3rd round value off the top of my head.

No one said PPR. I agree, in PPR his value takes a hit and knocks him out of the 2nd round in redraft (and certainly drops him out of the top 10 in dynasty). The question in regards to Wells vs. this years rookies - I'd keep Wells over everyone except MAYBE Mathews. Wells has proven he can do it at this level but Mathews may see enough work to get close to Wells' numbers this season (top 12-18 RB) if SD press clippings are to be beleived. Personally, I still like Wells better than all of this years incoming RBs - but a case could be made for Mathews.

 

[BigTex]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!

:twocents:

Tex

 

[DoubleG]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!:twocents:Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

 

[BigTex]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!:twocents:Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

 

[Blackjacks]

1st off no ppr, sorry for not stressing that.

2nd, we have to remember that Wells missed alot of time in camp last year due to Ohio St.'s classes running late. Rb's hardest thing to do is learn to pick up the blitz, pass protect and run routes out of the backfield. Maybe with a complete offseason Beannie might see more time on the field on third downs.

And 3rd we are entering the Matt Leinart era in Arizona and the run is going to be relied on alot more this year. Also, exit Anquan Boldin, should mean more touches.

I see Beannie gett around 310 carries for 1400 yards and 10 td's

Add in another 30 catches for around 190 yards and 1 td

1600 total yards and 11 td's sounds about right

(I do see Hightower still getting around 120-140 carries and around 30-40 catches)

 

[Tanner9919]

Was targetting him regardless. Put up some very nice numbers in a pass-oriented offense. We'll be running more now.

thats the problem: put up nice numbers with Warner calling the shots..with Leinart, Beanie might see 8 man fronts...losing Boldin will definitely hurt the passing game because he won't be there to keep defenses on their heels playing back looking for a pass, they can now focus more on stopping the running game and forcing Leinart to beat them...oof..

I'm cautiously optimistic with Beanie, not over-the-moon thrilled with him now with Leinart at QB..

If I'm taking a shot at a potential breakout player, I'm targeting Michael Bush ( with Campbell at the helm and D.McFadden an afterthought as a 3rd down guy)..

I'd also rather have Ryan Matthews over Beanie any day of the week..better supporting cast from QB on down to TE and Wr's save for Fitz.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!

:twocents:

Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

Did you check the splits? Let's take a look at how the season finished up...Week 14

Beanie 15car 79yds

Hightower 2car 3yds

Week 15

Beanie 17-110

Hightower 6-4

Week 16

Beanie 17-68

Hightower 10-32

Week 17

Beanie 6-19

Hightower 6-24

Playoffs Week 1

Beanie 14-91

Hightower 7-19

Playoffs Week 2

Beanie 5-7

Hightower 6-87 (70 yard run)

So Hightower pretty much had one good run through the last two months of the season, and other than that it was all Beanie.

With Warner and Boldin gone, they'll be passing much less now as well, and protecting a brittle Warner was pretty much the only reason Hightower saw the field towards the end of the year.

 

[Crippler]

Was targetting him regardless. Put up some very nice numbers in a pass-oriented offense. We'll be running more now.

thats the problem: put up nice numbers with Warner calling the shots..with Leinart, Beanie might see 8 man fronts...losing Boldin will definitely hurt the passing game because he won't be there to keep defenses on their heels playing back looking for a pass, they can now focus more on stopping the running game and forcing Leinart to beat them...oof..

I'm cautiously optimistic with Beanie, not over-the-moon thrilled with him now with Leinart at QB..

If I'm taking a shot at a potential breakout player, I'm targeting Michael Bush ( with Campbell at the helm and D.McFadden an afterthought as a 3rd down guy)..

I'd also rather have Ryan Matthews over Beanie any day of the week..better supporting cast from QB on down to TE and Wr's save for Fitz.

I totally disagree with almost everything in here. FIrst of all. Do teams really want to let Fitz go 1 on 1 with a CB. Bad idea and even Leinart will make them pay for that. While Boldin is a loss, Breaston and Doucet both seem like capable WR's that make at least usable 2 and 3 guys. I think Wells has top 5 written all over him and that his skill level >> Matthews >>>>>>Bush and the situation is better also. Matthews is behind a #### running OL still and Bush has way less talent everywhere around him.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Alan Faneca is almost as old as me. There are better reasons for being high on Beanie.

He's still a very effective run blocker though. I think Beanie will see a significant uptick in produtction over his rookie season. I wouled temper some expectations though, as Hightower has proven to be very effective in the passing game and short yardage situations - which is a blow to Beanie's production. I don't think Hightower is all that talented, but he has been effective and has the trust of the coaching staff - with him around talk of Wells being a top 10 back are a little premature.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Alan Faneca is almost as old as me. There are better reasons for being high on Beanie.

He's still a very effective run blocker though. I think Beanie will see a significant uptick in produtction over his rookie season. I wouled temper some expectations though, as Hightower has proven to be very effective in the passing game and short yardage situations - which is a blow to Beanie's production. I don't think Hightower is all that talented, but he has been effective and has the trust of the coaching staff - with him around talk of Wells being a top 10 back are a little premature.

Faneca was getting those last few years selected as a pro bowler on reputation. Why did the Jets turn him loose over $2 million? He gets beat like a drum as a pass blocker, but is still a decent run blocker.I am with some others on this board that the turbulence of Matt Lienart as the starting QB will shake out poorly for the Cardinals. Beanie scares me to rely on him as a RB#2. I might roll the dice as a RB#3, if I go WR/WR strategy. just MO.

 

[Hendo]

I could care less who is there RB wise... Beanie Wells REEKS of STUD, im targeting him in every draft i have.

 

[Aardvarks]

I could care less who is there RB wise... Beanie Wells REEKS of STUD, im targeting him in every draft i have.

All fantasy schlock aside, Beanie runs like a blood-lusting antelope. He's their ground weapon. I want him on my team. Hightower is a role player and will allow for extended breathers. Hence, Beanie will be a little fresher for that juicy stretch run -- vs Sea, @ KC, vs SF, vs Stl, vs Den -- in weeks 10 thru 14. No one can possibly talk me out of drafting him in round 2. I will not get cute and try to land him "for value" in round 3.

 

[Air Stich]

All of the sharp money seems to be on Beanie this year, and I'm no different. The way he runs reminds me a lot of a young Shaun Alexander. I think he could be a TD machine this year. I'm pretty high on the entire ARI offense compared to most people it seems.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Mark me down for having Wells as a STUD this season. I don't care that Hightower will steal touches, the difference in talent is too much to ignore, almost every team has some type of compliment back.

 

[loose circuits]

you guys need to be quiet and not pump his value up...lol

 

[Multiple Scores]

you guys need to be quiet and not pump his value up...lol

Just traded for him 5 days ago in my non ppr dynasty. Moreno for Wells straight up, feeling a little guilty now that Faneca is a Card and Clady is likely toast for the season.

 

[H8fulHuck]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!:twocents:Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

If that is your position and you own them in a dynasty league, you should have no trouble selling high with Beanie and keeping Hightower.

 

[LawFitz]

Ryan Mathews is the better pick this year. Less competition for touches and a MUCH better QB situation. Best part is Mathews can probably be had a round or three later.

 

[Spuds_McKenzie]

Let me clear this up for you Beanie vs. Hightower folks.

1. No Kurt Warner

2. No Anquin Boldin

3. Matt Noheart.

If I'm going to invest in a player from the Cards that will get alot of touches, I'll take the punter.

You can't run the ball on teams who KNOW you're going to run the ball.

Not even with Adrian Peterson, let alone Beanie Wells.

Start him if you want, but I wouldn't even have the guy on my roster. Cards are going to struggle this year in a division that should have the 49ers as Division winners, an improved Rams squad and a still crappy Seattle team.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Cards are going to struggle this year in a division that should have the 49ers as Division winners, an improved Rams squad and a still crappy Seattle team.

I really like this part.

 

[T.Rex]

Let me clear this up for you Beanie vs. Hightower folks.1. No Kurt Warner2. No Anquin Boldin3. Matt Noheart.If I'm going to invest in a player from the Cards that will get alot of touches, I'll take the punter.You can't run the ball on teams who KNOW you're going to run the ball.Not even with Adrian Peterson, let alone Beanie Wells.Start him if you want, but I wouldn't even have the guy on my roster. Cards are going to struggle this year in a division that should have the 49ers as Division winners, an improved Rams squad and a still crappy Seattle team.

Glad your know more than Vegas... Cards are the favorites... BTW they have a guy by the name of Fitzgerald only one of the best WR in the game..Oh yeah check his stats when Matt played not much difference then with Warner. But yeah I can see how teams would stack the box and leave Fitz one on one.....

 

[Spuds_McKenzie]

Let me clear this up for you Beanie vs. Hightower folks.1. No Kurt Warner2. No Anquin Boldin3. Matt Noheart.If I'm going to invest in a player from the Cards that will get alot of touches, I'll take the punter.You can't run the ball on teams who KNOW you're going to run the ball.Not even with Adrian Peterson, let alone Beanie Wells.Start him if you want, but I wouldn't even have the guy on my roster. Cards are going to struggle this year in a division that should have the 49ers as Division winners, an improved Rams squad and a still crappy Seattle team.

Glad your know more than Vegas... Cards are the favorites... BTW they have a guy by the name of Fitzgerald only one of the best WR in the game..Oh yeah check his stats when Matt played not much difference then with Warner. But yeah I can see how teams would stack the box and leave Fitz one on one.....

Draft him then. Enjoy the frustration. I don't care what Vegas says.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Glad your know more than Vegas... Cards are the favorites... BTW they have a guy by the name of Fitzgerald only one of the best WR in the game..

BTW, the 49ers have a guy by the name of Patrick Willis only the best LB in the game. BTW, the 49ers have a guy by the name of Vernon Davis only one of the best TE in the game. BTW, the 49ers have a guy named Frank Gore only one of the best RB in the game. I'll take the 49ers chances, I would take Patrick Willis over Fitzgerald. Because you guys have one good player, not a Super Bowl team you are.

 

[Phurfur]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!

:twocents:

Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

Look at the stats again, Wells did just that. In non PPR Wells will produce this year.

 

[heidbrink]

... Because you guys have one good player, not a Super Bowl team you are.

Thank you, Yoda!

 

[BigTex]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!

:twocents:

Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

Did you check the splits? Let's take a look at how the season finished up...Week 14

Beanie 15car 79yds

Hightower 2car 3yds

Week 15

Beanie 17-110

Hightower 6-4

Week 16

Beanie 17-68

Hightower 10-32

Week 17

Beanie 6-19

Hightower 6-24

Playoffs Week 1

Beanie 14-91

Hightower 7-19

Playoffs Week 2

Beanie 5-7

Hightower 6-87 (70 yard run)

So Hightower pretty much had one good run through the last two months of the season, and other than that it was all Beanie.

With Warner and Boldin gone, they'll be passing much less now as well, and protecting a brittle Warner was pretty much the only reason Hightower saw the field towards the end of the year.

Have you ignored the reception disparity between the two? Does the fact that Wells is a nearly non-factor in the passing game and Hightower is not concern you? Well, it does me and until he can show that he can catch the ball I'm not getting too excited. I know I'm in the minority in my thinking but ignoring it will only cause disappointment. IIRC Wells lack of catching in college was one of the knocks on him................:twocents:

Tex

 

[BigTex]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!:twocents:Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

If that is your position and you own them in a dynasty league, you should have no trouble selling high with Beanie and keeping Hightower.

Like you said yourself its a DYNASTY!

 

[BigTex]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!

:twocents:

Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

Look at the stats again, Wells did just that. In non PPR Wells will produce this year.

I hope he does but again it's not wise to assume he'll completely take over as long as Hightower is still there.

 

[mozzy84]

should be very very good, hightower will still be in on third downs but thats about it. I also dont see them pulling wells at the goal line. He is so much more talented than hightower in everything but the receiving game.

 

[gandalas]

I currently have Ray Rice as my RB1, Wells as my RB2, Ronnie Brown as my RB3, and Mcfadden/Bush as my RB4 and RB5 (in whichever order they end up with)

This is my RB crew in my main Dynasty, and I could not be more happy entering the season.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I own both Wells and Hightower, as long as Wells keeps fumbling the damn ball and Hightower keeps producing..................we have a freaking problem gentlemen. I keep hearing how Hightower will be fazed out and Wells will take over. Hasn't happened and it won't until Wells get his #### together!

:twocents:

Tex

Apparently you forgot to actually look at stats before posting this widely held assumption. Last season Wells had 4 fumbles (lost 2), while Hightower had 5 fumbles (6 if you count the playoffs)(lost 4) - and Wells had 33 more carries than Hightower. Also, Wells only had 1 fumble from week 8 on, while Hightower fumbled twice in the last half of the season (again, 3 times if you count his fumble in the post season). I'd say for the most part, we're past that.

I didn't watch many games but when I did, Wells fumbled only to get pulled, in comes Hightower and produce. The truth is Hightower is a thorn in the side of all the Wells owners including myself. Hightower also had more fantasy points with less carries yet with 61 receptions vs Wells lonesome 12 recptions and this is the major deference. No, I didn't forget to look at the stats again, I own them both and Hightower WILL BE an issue to those that own Wells until he get his #### together.ETA: Now that I've gone back and taken a second look: in PPR Hightower was ranked #11 and Wells #35 (standard scoring) and you think Hightower will be a non-factor........you're setting yourself up for a let down. In Non-PPR leagues it's a little closer but I'm not going to write off Timmy yet.

Look at the stats again, Wells did just that. In non PPR Wells will produce this year.

I hope he does but again it's not wise to assume he'll completely take over as long as Hightower is still there.

this sounds just like the Peterson/Taylor arguments 2 or 3 years ago.And before you say Peterson >>> Wells, well Taylor >>> Hightower.

I owned both guys last year. As mentioned earlier, Hightower fumbled more than Wells, and though he had a much bigger role in the passing game in 2009 (primarily in the early part of the season), he averaged less than 7 yards a catch, doesn't exactly knock your socks off. Beanie, meanwhile, granted in a much more limited sample, averaged just under 12 yards a reception. I saw nothing to indicate that Beanie couldn't handle catching the ball out of the backfield, and I believe he'll see more time in that aspect if he continues to refine his blitz pickup skills.

Once Beanie shows he has the blitz piece down (which is big, especially with Leinart under center), there's no aspect of his game that isn't head and shoulders superior to Hightower.

 

[BigTex]

should be very very good, hightower will still be in on third downs but thats about it. I also dont see them pulling wells at the goal line. He is so much more talented than hightower in everything but the receiving game.

I would love for this to take place.

 

[mozzy84]

I currently have Ray Rice as my RB1, Wells as my RB2, Ronnie Brown as my RB3, and Mcfadden/Bush as my RB4 and RB5 (in whichever order they end up with)This is my RB crew in my main Dynasty, and I could not be more happy entering the season.

point being

 

[BigTex]

this sounds just like the Peterson/Taylor arguments 2 or 3 years ago.And before you say Peterson >>> Wells, well Taylor >>> Hightower.I owned both guys last year. As mentioned earlier, Hightower fumbled more than Wells, and though he had a much bigger role in the passing game in 2009 (primarily in the early part of the season), he averaged less than 7 yards a catch, doesn't exactly knock your socks off. Beanie, meanwhile, granted in a much more limited sample, averaged just under 12 yards a reception. I saw nothing to indicate that Beanie couldn't handle catching the ball out of the backfield, and I believe he'll see more time in that aspect if he continues to refine his blitz pickup skills.Once Beanie shows he has the blitz piece down (which is big, especially with Leinart under center), there's no aspect of his game that isn't head and shoulders superior to Hightower.

We shall see!

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I currently have Ray Rice as my RB1, Wells as my RB2, Ronnie Brown as my RB3, and Mcfadden/Bush as my RB4 and RB5 (in whichever order they end up with)

This is my RB crew in my main Dynasty, and I could not be more happy entering the season.

point being

He's as happy as he could possibly be with his RB situation in that particular dynasty league

 

[gandalas]

I currently have Ray Rice as my RB1, Wells as my RB2, Ronnie Brown as my RB3, and Mcfadden/Bush as my RB4 and RB5 (in whichever order they end up with)

This is my RB crew in my main Dynasty, and I could not be more happy entering the season.

point being

He's as happy as he could possibly be with his RB situation in that particular dynasty league

Point being, I am happy as a clam with Beanie as my RB2. Michael Bush was also mentioned earlier in this thread as a possible target, so he was relevant as well. I know some other people were saying they would be nervous with Beanie as their RB2, so I was just giving my opinion on the subject.

 

[Blackjacks]

Ryan Mathews is the better pick this year. Less competition for touches and a MUCH better QB situation. Best part is Mathews can probably be had a round or three later.

Let's see let me name the best 5 rb's in the game right now

P. Manning

Brees

Brady

Rivers

Big Ben

Romo

Eli

Rodgers

Cutler

Schaub

Can you name more than 2 of theswe teams with GREAT QB SITUATIONS that also have a stud at the rb position?

<I didn't put in Favre cause who knows if he's playing or not>

 

[LawFitz]

Ryan Mathews is the better pick this year. Less competition for touches and a MUCH better QB situation. Best part is Mathews can probably be had a round or three later.

Let's see let me name the best 5 rb's in the game right now

P. Manning

Brees

Brady

Rivers

Big Ben

Romo

Eli

Rodgers

Cutler

Schaub

Can you name more than 2 of theswe teams with GREAT QB SITUATIONS that also have a stud at the rb position?

<I didn't put in Favre cause who knows if he's playing or not>

I'm not sure whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with me, but I like your list:Manning - Addai/Brown - Addai is washed up; Brown didn't hold up last year when given opportunities

Brees - Pierre Thomas - probably will go right about where Beanie does. I'd take Pierre, esp in 0.5 or full PPR.

Brady - cluster fruit RBBC.

Rivers - Mathews/Sproles - DS will be a situational role player and will get opps, but I think Mathews will get the lion share.

Big Ben - Mendenhall - going way higher than Beannie in most drafts, so not relevant here.

Romo - Felix/MBIII/Choice - another cluster fruit RBBC.

Eli - Bradshaw/Jacobs - Bradshaw could be serious value. I don't like Jacobs. But both have too many durability concerns IMO.

Rodgers - Ryan Grant is the man. He will go right around the same time but I'd pick him ahead of Beannie.

Cutler - Matt Forte will go much later and could be good value but who knows if this team can handle Mike Martz and vice versa.

Schaub - Foster/Slaton/Tate = another cluster fruit RBBC.

Beannie has the upside of a tier 1 RB when you look at him in isolation as a player. But when you consider the QB situation and the considerable role played by Hightower, he definitely gets knocked down quite a few slots behind lesser individual players. Grant, Pierre Thomas and arguably Mathews are ahead of Beannie because of this concept.

Talent + Opportunity + Motivation = Success. But remember that all three factors should be considered with signficant focus on other players (esp QB) and coaches on the team, rather than just the particular player in question.