Bears v/s Chargers Official Game Thread (1 Viewer)

[DanFouts]

I spent all summer brainwashing my 3 year old daughter to say she loves the Chargers when anyone asked her what her favorite football team was. I'm talking Clockwork Orange level here.

Then, last week my buddy asks her...are you for the Bears or Chargers, and I can see her little mind thinking of panda bears...she spouts out Bears. Now all week long from her..."Bears, Bears.."...

 

[Snotbubbles]

Im too lazy to look it up(plus i dont even know where to start looking), but where did the Bears offense rank in yardage last year, and where did they rank as far as turning the ball over? I have to guess neither stat is very flattering for the Bears, but i am only basing this on watching them play last year. Just seemed when they needed their offense to produce, they usually came up short, including in the Superbowl, which Sweetness34 refered to, kind of sticking his foot in his mouth.

Burning:Bears were 14th in the NFL in passing yards/game & 15th in the NFL in rushing yards/game & 6th in the NFL for offensive TDs.....so they were right around the middle of the league in yards/game overall.....not really "bottom of the league" crapole you hear from the ignoramuses here.

See rankings cut & paste below from NFL.com.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find

Passing stats:

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate

1 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 372 580 64.1 36.2 4503 8.0 281.4 27 13 207 35.7 86T 65 20 23 94.9

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 362 557 65.0 34.8 4308 7.9 269.2 31 9 241 43.3 68T 53 7 15 101.0

3 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 323 544 59.4 34.0 4119 7.9 257.4 31 9 189 34.7 89T 63 19 28 96.7

4 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 371 592 62.7 37.0 3962 7.3 247.6 24 8 212 35.8 67T 61 10 49 92.7

5 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 310 506 61.3 31.6 3836 8.0 239.8 26 21 197 38.9 56T 56 12 37 86.5

6 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 327 523 62.5 32.7 3833 7.8 239.6 28 13 200 38.2 74T 53 15 36 94.1

7 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 372 596 62.4 37.2 3820 7.1 238.8 21 22 208 34.9 60T 59 3 63 79.9

8 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 350 630 55.6 39.4 3795 6.3 237.2 18 18 185 29.4 82T 49 8 24 72.1

9 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 312 523 59.7 32.7 3733 7.7 233.3 23 23 201 38.4 87T 49 10 49 80.2

10 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 322 545 59.1 34.1 3662 7.2 228.9 17 17 187 34.3 64 50 11 35 78.7

11 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 328 524 62.6 32.8 3435 6.7 214.7 21 14 179 34.2 87T 38 6 17 84.6

12 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 326 527 61.9 32.9 3400 6.8 212.5 25 12 181 34.3 62T 47 8 29 88.3

13 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 342 591 57.9 36.9 3287 6.1 205.4 16 19 180 30.5 52 37 6 41 71.2

14 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 282 514 54.9 32.1 3281 6.7 205.1 24 22 161 31.3 75T 50 9 25 73.5

Rushing stats:

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% Rsh 20+ 40+ FUM

1 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 537 33.6 2939 5.5 183.7 9 90T 134 25.0 9 23 4 8

2 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 522 32.6 2578 4.9 161.1 32 85T 137 26.2 32 20 9 8

3 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 513 32.1 2541 5.0 158.8 23 76 127 24.8 23 14 4 8

4 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 490 30.6 2216 4.5 138.5 13 38T 123 25.1 13 13 0 12

5 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 469 29.3 2214 4.7 138.4 15 70T 105 22.4 15 17 2 11

6 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 439 27.4 2172 4.9 135.8 12 72 97 22.1 12 20 6 10

7 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 455 28.4 2156 4.7 134.8 14 55T 120 26.4 14 13 3 7

8 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 488 30.5 2152 4.4 134.5 12 72T 106 21.7 12 16 4 12

9 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 513 32.1 2143 4.2 133.9 17 47 105 20.5 17 12 4 10

10 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 469 29.3 1992 4.2 124.5 16 76 100 21.3 16 16 4 12

11 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 416 26.0 1984 4.8 124.0 13 71T 106 25.5 13 11 1 6

12 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 499 31.2 1969 3.9 123.1 20 50 121 24.2 20 12 2 6

13 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 472 29.5 1936 4.1 121.0 21 77T 107 22.7 21 10 1 6

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 484 30.2 1923 4.0 120.2 8 37 112 23.1 8 8 0 9

15 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 503 31.4 1918 3.8 119.9 14 30T 103 20.5 14 7 0 5

Offensive TDs:

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Total Rsh Rec Ret Def

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 59 32 24 0 3

2 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 52 21 26 1 4

3 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 50 17 31 1 1

4 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 49 19 27 1 2

4 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 49 13 31 0 5

6 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 47 14 24 5 4

So basically what you're saying is the the offense was merely average in terms of yardage when facing:ARI (ranked 30th in the NFL in yards allowed)

SF (28th)

DET x 2 (27th)

NYG (26th)

STL (23rd)

SEA (22nd)

BUF (19th)

NYJ (18th)

Meh. Color me not impressed.

They scored 27 of their 38 TDs against the bottom third of the scoring defenses (teams like SF, DET, STL, NYG). I'll give the Bears this, they beat up on the crappy teams they're supposed to.

Average is all that they need to win games. Since the Bears D does not really give up points in most games, Bears O does not really need to score to win. At least in 5 games last year, Bears were simply running out the clock in the 4th quarter last year. Unlike the Saints or Colts O which had to score until the end to have a chance to win a game.

Right, I agree, I don't dispute that the Bears will win games with this offense. But the original post was that the Bears O comes up short when they need to score. In those cases, average against below average teams just doesn't cut it. And average won't cut it if the Bears want to WIN the Superbowl.

 

[flapgreen]

I just don't see the Bears offense handling the pressure of the SD defense.The home field and emotion of this game will help SD's D more than the CHI O... this game will have a playoff feel to it and that, IMO, really favors the Chargers D.put this game in CHI and maybe I feel differently; maybe it's easier for the mistake prone CHI offense to keep their composure.I also think that SD has a bigger chip on their shoulder going into this season than CHI.SD has a lot to prove, they "should" have been in the SuperBowl last year... they "should" have won the superbowl last year.it's fair to say the teams are pretty evenly matched.it's also fair (IMO) to say that all the intangibles are in SDs favor... at least this week.

So having a whole new coaching staff isn't going to affect SD at all? People are forgetting this. New coaches don't always just step in and take over where the last coach left off, especially in the rare circumstance that a team was actually this good. I think this also deserves some thought.

 

[flapgreen]

I spent all summer brainwashing my 3 year old daughter to say she loves the Chargers when anyone asked her what her favorite football team was. I'm talking Clockwork Orange level here.Then, last week my buddy asks her...are you for the Bears or Chargers, and I can see her little mind thinking of panda bears...she spouts out Bears. Now all week long from her..."Bears, Bears.."...

 

[TD Ryan]

So having a whole new coaching staff isn't going to affect SD at all? People are forgetting this. New coaches don't always just step in and take over where the last coach left off, especially in the rare circumstance that a team was actually this good. I think this also deserves some thought.

I think the concerns about the coaching changes are over rated.IMO, the coaching changes make or break .500 teams... when teams are on such an elite level as the Chargers (or ever NE when they lost Weiss/Crennel), the coaching changes have minimal impact.

Here's some interesting data from The Cold, Hard, Football, Facts:

* The Chargers went 14-2 in 2006, and won the West by five full games.

* They lost their two games by three points each.

* They led the league in scoring margin.

* They will have more or less the same squad in 2007.

Since the advent of the 16-game schedule in 1978, there have been 17 teams with 14 or more wins. Of those teams (listed in bold type), 12 won the division the next season (71 percent) and two more won 10 games.

* 1979 Steelers (12-4)

* 1984 Redskins (11-5)

* 1985 Dolphins (12-4)

* 1985 49ers (10-6) made playoffs

* 1986 Bears (14-2)

* 1987 Giants (7-8, strike season)

* 1987 Bears (11-4, strike season)

* 1990 49ers (14-2)

* 1991 49ers (10-6)

* 1993 49ers (10-6)

* 1999 Broncos (6-10)

* 1999 Falcons (5-11)

* 1999 Vikings (10-6)

* 2002 Rams (7-9)

* 2004 Patriots (14-2)

* 2005 Patriots (10-6)

* 2005 Steelers (11-5)

* 2006 Colts (12-4)

Also, the history of mediocre coaches with big shoes to fill has been on Turner's side as well.

Turner will not only be replacing a legend in Marty Schottenheimer (200 wins), but he'll be doing it off a good season. This has been a fairly rare occurrence over the Super Bowl era – we could only find nine examples of great coaches going out on top, and none of them were succeeded by future legends of the game.

However, the history suggests that in the year after the legend's departure, the shoe fillers did pretty well.

* 1967 Packers, Vince Lombardi 9-4-1 (SB)

* 1968 Packers, Phil Bengston 6-7-1

* 1975 Bengals, Paul Brown 11-5

* 1976 Bengals, Bill Johnson 10-4 (tied for div. lead, but no playoffs)

* 1977 Rams, Chuck Knox 10-4

* 1978 Rams, Ray Malavasi 12-4 (playoffs)

* 1988 49ers, Bill Walsh 10-6 (SB)

* 1989 49ers, George Seifert 14-2 (SB)

* 1990 Giants, Bill Parcells 13-3 (SB)

* 1991 Giants, Ray Handley 8-8

* 1993 Cowboys, Jimmy Johnson 12-4 (SB)

* 1994 Cowboys, Barry Switzer 12-4 (SB)

* 1996 Patriots, Bill Parcells 11-5 (SB)

* 1997 Patriots, Pete Carroll 10-6 (playoffs)

* 1998 Packers, Mike Holmgren 11-5

* 1999 Packers, Ray Rhodes 8-8

* 1999 Rams, **** Vermeil 13-3 (SB)

* 2000 Rams, Mike Martz 10-6 (playoffs)

The nine legends won a total of 100 games; their replacements won a total of 90 the next season. Not exactly a huge falloff, at least in the first year.

Interestingly, in every case save one (Malavasi), the shoe filler was gone before a half-decade was up – which suggests that Turner isn't a long-term answer.

 

[Southside Stosh]

Rex under pressure = turnover machine. At least last year. If he has corrected this then it should be a great game, if he hasn't then they are going to struggle. It doesn't matter how good the D is. They won't survive 4+ turnovers.

And I think Rex has to expect the Chargers to be in his face throughout the game. The question is whether or not Ron Turner will successfully gameplan around an aggressive Chargers D and give Rex a chance to build confidence.

 

[dornado]

< 1 week to go now.....fire this puppy up now. Anything on this game including in-game comments, post it here. Pin this mods. Here is a nice article about some cool sub plots in this game.....easily the best game of the week.....maybe a SB preview already

LOLSD will slaughter the Cubbies, who will fade back into obscurity this year. Get a real QB and RB, then they can start the SB talk.

I know I'm a bit late, but let me get this straight... the NFL's winningest franchise, you know, the one with the most Hall of Famers... they're going to fade back into "obscurity"?

 

[flapgreen]

< 1 week to go now.....fire this puppy up now. Anything on this game including in-game comments, post it here. Pin this mods. Here is a nice article about some cool sub plots in this game.....easily the best game of the week.....maybe a SB preview already

LOLSD will slaughter the Cubbies, who will fade back into obscurity this year. Get a real QB and RB, then they can start the SB talk.

I know I'm a bit late, but let me get this straight... the NFL's winningest franchise, you know, the one with the most Hall of Famers... they're going to fade back into "obscurity"?

Red has no credibility around here because of statements just like that. That's what he always does.

 

[flapgreen]

So having a whole new coaching staff isn't going to affect SD at all? People are forgetting this. New coaches don't always just step in and take over where the last coach left off, especially in the rare circumstance that a team was actually this good. I think this also deserves some thought.

I think the concerns about the coaching changes are over rated.IMO, the coaching changes make or break .500 teams... when teams are on such an elite level as the Chargers (or ever NE when they lost Weiss/Crennel), the coaching changes have minimal impact.

Here's some interesting data from The Cold, Hard, Football, Facts:

* The Chargers went 14-2 in 2006, and won the West by five full games.

* They lost their two games by three points each.

* They led the league in scoring margin.

* They will have more or less the same squad in 2007.

Since the advent of the 16-game schedule in 1978, there have been 17 teams with 14 or more wins. Of those teams (listed in bold type), 12 won the division the next season (71 percent) and two more won 10 games.

* 1979 Steelers (12-4)

* 1984 Redskins (11-5)

* 1985 Dolphins (12-4)

* 1985 49ers (10-6) made playoffs

* 1986 Bears (14-2)

* 1987 Giants (7-8, strike season)

* 1987 Bears (11-4, strike season)

* 1990 49ers (14-2)

* 1991 49ers (10-6)

* 1993 49ers (10-6)

* 1999 Broncos (6-10)

* 1999 Falcons (5-11)

* 1999 Vikings (10-6)

* 2002 Rams (7-9)

* 2004 Patriots (14-2)

* 2005 Patriots (10-6)

* 2005 Steelers (11-5)

* 2006 Colts (12-4)

Also, the history of mediocre coaches with big shoes to fill has been on Turner's side as well.

Turner will not only be replacing a legend in Marty Schottenheimer (200 wins), but he'll be doing it off a good season. This has been a fairly rare occurrence over the Super Bowl era – we could only find nine examples of great coaches going out on top, and none of them were succeeded by future legends of the game.

However, the history suggests that in the year after the legend's departure, the shoe fillers did pretty well.

* 1967 Packers, Vince Lombardi 9-4-1 (SB)

* 1968 Packers, Phil Bengston 6-7-1

* 1975 Bengals, Paul Brown 11-5

* 1976 Bengals, Bill Johnson 10-4 (tied for div. lead, but no playoffs)

* 1977 Rams, Chuck Knox 10-4

* 1978 Rams, Ray Malavasi 12-4 (playoffs)

* 1988 49ers, Bill Walsh 10-6 (SB)

* 1989 49ers, George Seifert 14-2 (SB)

* 1990 Giants, Bill Parcells 13-3 (SB)

* 1991 Giants, Ray Handley 8-8

* 1993 Cowboys, Jimmy Johnson 12-4 (SB)

* 1994 Cowboys, Barry Switzer 12-4 (SB)

* 1996 Patriots, Bill Parcells 11-5 (SB)

* 1997 Patriots, Pete Carroll 10-6 (playoffs)

* 1998 Packers, Mike Holmgren 11-5

* 1999 Packers, Ray Rhodes 8-8

* 1999 Rams, **** Vermeil 13-3 (SB)

* 2000 Rams, Mike Martz 10-6 (playoffs)

The nine legends won a total of 100 games; their replacements won a total of 90 the next season. Not exactly a huge falloff, at least in the first year.

Interestingly, in every case save one (Malavasi), the shoe filler was gone before a half-decade was up – which suggests that Turner isn't a long-term answer.

Interesting post. I didn't know that information. However, I never thought SD would have a huge falloff and all of sudden not make the playoffs. They're a quality team. They'll still be very good but the changing of the entire coaching staff has to be taken into consideration. There is an adjustment to be made.As far as the NE comparision, that team had been together and winning for years and still had their head coach. I think the SD situation is a little different. Just my opinion

 

[guderian]

Are you always so clueless? # of years Bears had a 3 win year since 1990 = 0# of years Bears had a 4 win year since 1990 = 2You must be a Aints fan.....I can understand how you are extremely familiar with 3 or 4 win teams. Aints =

I count three 4 win seasons in the last ten years alone. That's followed by two 5 wins seasons. Come on, even for a Bears fan you should be able to count higher than two. Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Are you always so clueless? # of years Bears had a 3 win year since 1990 = 0# of years Bears had a 4 win year since 1990 = 2You must be a Aints fan.....I can understand how you are extremely familiar with 3 or 4 win teams. Aints =

I count three 4 win seasons in the last ten years alone. That's followed by two 5 wins seasons. Come on, even for a Bears fan you should be able to count higher than two. Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Since 1990 the Bears regular season win totals:13: 2 times11: 3 times9: 2 times7: 3 times6: 1 times5: 3 times4: 3 timesAvg wins per year: 7.7

 

[DoubleG]

Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Yes it is a road game - the Bears were 7-1 on the road last year, which was tied for the best road record in the NFL - with gasp an AFC team. The Patriots to be specific - the Bears' only road loss, by 4 points. Oh and the cutesie question about how many Bears will be able to make it - all 53. The one player you are referring to is no longer with the Bears - he was replaced by Darwin Walker - who is actually better than Tank Johnson ever was or will be...oh, and he may be coming off the bench behind T. Harris and Dvorceck. Do I gaurantee a Bears win? No. Do I think the Chragers are overlooking the Bears? Certainly not. Do I think most of this post has turned into a wasteland of insult and opinions baseless in fact? Most definately.

 

[guderian]

Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Yes it is a road game - the Bears were 7-1 on the road last year, which was tied for the best road record in the NFL - with gasp an AFC team. The Patriots to be specific - the Bears' only road loss, by 4 points. Oh and the cutesie question about how many Bears will be able to make it - all 53. The one player you are referring to is no longer with the Bears - he was replaced by Darwin Walker - who is actually better than Tank Johnson ever was or will be...oh, and he may be coming off the bench behind T. Harris and Dvorceck. Do I gaurantee a Bears win? No. Do I think the Chragers are overlooking the Bears? Certainly not. Do I think most of this post has turned into a wasteland of insult and opinions baseless in fact? Most definately.

Yes, I noticed that the Bears were willing to part ways with Tank Johnson...after they found a replacement for him. As far as the insults...check to see how many times your cohort called people "clueless", "brainless" or "ignoramouses", etc. before people started returning fire. Bears threads inevitably end up like this because most people don't accept the premise that the Bears are the greatest of all time--which offends Bears fans to no end.

 

[dornado]

Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Yes it is a road game - the Bears were 7-1 on the road last year, which was tied for the best road record in the NFL - with gasp an AFC team. The Patriots to be specific - the Bears' only road loss, by 4 points. Oh and the cutesie question about how many Bears will be able to make it - all 53. The one player you are referring to is no longer with the Bears - he was replaced by Darwin Walker - who is actually better than Tank Johnson ever was or will be...oh, and he may be coming off the bench behind T. Harris and Dvorceck.

Do I gaurantee a Bears win? No. Do I think the Chragers are overlooking the Bears? Certainly not. Do I think most of this post has turned into a wasteland of insult and opinions baseless in fact? Most definately.

Yes, I noticed that the Bears were willing to part ways with Tank Johnson...after they found a replacement for him. As far as the insults...check to see how many times your cohort called people "clueless", "brainless" or "ignoramouses", etc. before people started returning fire. Bears threads inevitably end up like this because most people don't accept the premise that the Bears are the greatest of all time--which offends Bears fans to no end.

Tank Johnson is released June 25th - http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3549Darwin Walker is signed July 31st - http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...earnt01.article

good one.

 

[flapgreen]

Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Yes it is a road game - the Bears were 7-1 on the road last year, which was tied for the best road record in the NFL - with gasp an AFC team. The Patriots to be specific - the Bears' only road loss, by 4 points. Oh and the cutesie question about how many Bears will be able to make it - all 53. The one player you are referring to is no longer with the Bears - he was replaced by Darwin Walker - who is actually better than Tank Johnson ever was or will be...oh, and he may be coming off the bench behind T. Harris and Dvorceck.

Do I gaurantee a Bears win? No. Do I think the Chragers are overlooking the Bears? Certainly not. Do I think most of this post has turned into a wasteland of insult and opinions baseless in fact? Most definately.

Yes, I noticed that the Bears were willing to part ways with Tank Johnson...after they found a replacement for him. As far as the insults...check to see how many times your cohort called people "clueless", "brainless" or "ignoramouses", etc. before people started returning fire. Bears threads inevitably end up like this because most people don't accept the premise that the Bears are the greatest of all time--which offends Bears fans to no end.

I'd say it's more a result of people coming into Bears threads talking about how pedestrian the Bears are and then Bears fans defending the team they love. I highly doubt many Bears fans on here think this Bears team is the greatest of all time. Most of us are well aware of the weaknesses on our team. We watch them every single game.That being said, we're also also not gonna sit around let people spew baseless opinions on how average the team is. Even after they went to the SB, some keep saying the same things. It doesn't matter to some.

They're a damn good team that dominated their conference and just went to the SB last year without 2 of their best defensive players. I don't care how weak their schedule was. That's impressive for any team.

Additionally, the difference between the best and worst teams in the NFL is very small these days. That's why I never put much credence into the strength of schedule argument.

 

[flapgreen]

Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Yes it is a road game - the Bears were 7-1 on the road last year, which was tied for the best road record in the NFL - with gasp an AFC team. The Patriots to be specific - the Bears' only road loss, by 4 points. Oh and the cutesie question about how many Bears will be able to make it - all 53. The one player you are referring to is no longer with the Bears - he was replaced by Darwin Walker - who is actually better than Tank Johnson ever was or will be...oh, and he may be coming off the bench behind T. Harris and Dvorceck.

Do I gaurantee a Bears win? No. Do I think the Chragers are overlooking the Bears? Certainly not. Do I think most of this post has turned into a wasteland of insult and opinions baseless in fact? Most definately.

Yes, I noticed that the Bears were willing to part ways with Tank Johnson...after they found a replacement for him. As far as the insults...check to see how many times your cohort called people "clueless", "brainless" or "ignoramouses", etc. before people started returning fire. Bears threads inevitably end up like this because most people don't accept the premise that the Bears are the greatest of all time--which offends Bears fans to no end.

Tank Johnson is released June 25th - http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3549Darwin Walker is signed July 31st - http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...earnt01.article

good one.

Exactly my point. Things like this get thrown around on here all the time.As a Bears fan, I can't say I agree with them letting Tank go to the SB last year. I felt they should've barred him from it. But after he got pulled over for possible drinking and driving, they had enough. From what I remember, he was never even charged with a DUI and they cut him anyway.

 

[DoubleG]

Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Yes it is a road game - the Bears were 7-1 on the road last year, which was tied for the best road record in the NFL - with gasp an AFC team. The Patriots to be specific - the Bears' only road loss, by 4 points. Oh and the cutesie question about how many Bears will be able to make it - all 53. The one player you are referring to is no longer with the Bears - he was replaced by Darwin Walker - who is actually better than Tank Johnson ever was or will be...oh, and he may be coming off the bench behind T. Harris and Dvorceck. Do I gaurantee a Bears win? No. Do I think the Chragers are overlooking the Bears? Certainly not. Do I think most of this post has turned into a wasteland of insult and opinions baseless in fact? Most definately.

Yes, I noticed that the Bears were willing to part ways with Tank Johnson...after they found a replacement for him. As far as the insults...check to see how many times your cohort called people "clueless", "brainless" or "ignoramouses", etc. before people started returning fire. Bears threads inevitably end up like this because most people don't accept the premise that the Bears are the greatest of all time--which offends Bears fans to no end.

Just for the record, I never said that the Bears are NOT the greatest team of all time.

 

[urbanhack]

Bears 23

Chargers 20

 

[guderian]

I'd say it's more a result of people coming into Bears threads talking about how pedestrian the Bears are and then Bears fans defending the team they love. I highly doubt many Bears fans on here think this Bears team is the greatest of all time. Most of us are well aware of the weaknesses on our team. We watch them every single game.That being said, we're also also not gonna sit around let people spew baseless opinions on how average the team is. Even after they went to the SB, some keep saying the same things. It doesn't matter to some.

Naturally you'd see the Bears as the victims here. Re-read this thread...a few posts into it a Bears fan starts yammering about how neither the Saints nor the Colts play defense when the Colts were #17th in yards allowed and the Saints were 11th. If you want people to respect the Bears, don't start taking "baseless" and "factless" shots at other teams followed by slinging insults. I'm not calling you out personally, but it whining about a lack of respect and insulting comments seems to be a common theme in these threads. Ironic that all the fuss and bother about not knowing the facts started AFTER a Bears fan claimed that the Saints and Colts didn't play defense.

 

[guderian]

Regardless, I see that its a road game for the Bears. Do we know how many Bears couldn't make the trip because they're on lock down?

Yes it is a road game - the Bears were 7-1 on the road last year, which was tied for the best road record in the NFL - with gasp an AFC team. The Patriots to be specific - the Bears' only road loss, by 4 points. Oh and the cutesie question about how many Bears will be able to make it - all 53. The one player you are referring to is no longer with the Bears - he was replaced by Darwin Walker - who is actually better than Tank Johnson ever was or will be...oh, and he may be coming off the bench behind T. Harris and Dvorceck.

Do I gaurantee a Bears win? No. Do I think the Chragers are overlooking the Bears? Certainly not. Do I think most of this post has turned into a wasteland of insult and opinions baseless in fact? Most definately.

Yes, I noticed that the Bears were willing to part ways with Tank Johnson...after they found a replacement for him. As far as the insults...check to see how many times your cohort called people "clueless", "brainless" or "ignoramouses", etc. before people started returning fire. Bears threads inevitably end up like this because most people don't accept the premise that the Bears are the greatest of all time--which offends Bears fans to no end.

Tank Johnson is released June 25th - http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3549Darwin Walker is signed July 31st - http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...earnt01.article

good one.

I don't care who is replacing Tank Johnson now, I just recall when he was released that the Bears fans were claiming that it didn't matter and that they wouldn't suffer a drop off with his replacement. I guess that was just wishful thinking by Bears fans.

 

[flapgreen]

I'd say it's more a result of people coming into Bears threads talking about how pedestrian the Bears are and then Bears fans defending the team they love. I highly doubt many Bears fans on here think this Bears team is the greatest of all time. Most of us are well aware of the weaknesses on our team. We watch them every single game.That being said, we're also also not gonna sit around let people spew baseless opinions on how average the team is. Even after they went to the SB, some keep saying the same things. It doesn't matter to some.

Naturally you'd see the Bears as the victims here. Re-read this thread...a few posts into it a Bears fan starts yammering about how neither the Saints nor the Colts play defense when the Colts were #17th in yards allowed and the Saints were 11th. If you want people to respect the Bears, don't start taking "baseless" and "factless" shots at other teams followed by slinging insults. I'm not calling you out personally, but it whining about a lack of respect and insulting comments seems to be a common theme in these threads. Ironic that all the fuss and bother about not knowing the facts started AFTER a Bears fan claimed that the Saints and Colts didn't play defense.

I wouldn't say "victims". That would be a little overboard. Nevertheless, I'm obviously going to be biased a little toward the team I follow, even when I'm trying not to be. I think that's only natural. As far as the Saints or Colts not playing defense, I wasn't a part of that discussion. I don't think I was a part of the insults part either.I think there's already been some pretty good discussion on both sides in this thread. I don't have a problem with it.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Im too lazy to look it up(plus i dont even know where to start looking), but where did the Bears offense rank in yardage last year, and where did they rank as far as turning the ball over? I have to guess neither stat is very flattering for the Bears, but i am only basing this on watching them play last year. Just seemed when they needed their offense to produce, they usually came up short, including in the Superbowl, which Sweetness34 refered to, kind of sticking his foot in his mouth.

Burning:Bears were 14th in the NFL in passing yards/game & 15th in the NFL in rushing yards/game & 6th in the NFL for offensive TDs.....so they were right around the middle of the league in yards/game overall.....not really "bottom of the league" crapole you hear from the ignoramuses here.

See rankings cut & paste below from NFL.com.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find

Passing stats:

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate

1 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 372 580 64.1 36.2 4503 8.0 281.4 27 13 207 35.7 86T 65 20 23 94.9

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 362 557 65.0 34.8 4308 7.9 269.2 31 9 241 43.3 68T 53 7 15 101.0

3 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 323 544 59.4 34.0 4119 7.9 257.4 31 9 189 34.7 89T 63 19 28 96.7

4 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 371 592 62.7 37.0 3962 7.3 247.6 24 8 212 35.8 67T 61 10 49 92.7

5 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 310 506 61.3 31.6 3836 8.0 239.8 26 21 197 38.9 56T 56 12 37 86.5

6 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 327 523 62.5 32.7 3833 7.8 239.6 28 13 200 38.2 74T 53 15 36 94.1

7 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 372 596 62.4 37.2 3820 7.1 238.8 21 22 208 34.9 60T 59 3 63 79.9

8 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 350 630 55.6 39.4 3795 6.3 237.2 18 18 185 29.4 82T 49 8 24 72.1

9 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 312 523 59.7 32.7 3733 7.7 233.3 23 23 201 38.4 87T 49 10 49 80.2

10 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 322 545 59.1 34.1 3662 7.2 228.9 17 17 187 34.3 64 50 11 35 78.7

11 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 328 524 62.6 32.8 3435 6.7 214.7 21 14 179 34.2 87T 38 6 17 84.6

12 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 326 527 61.9 32.9 3400 6.8 212.5 25 12 181 34.3 62T 47 8 29 88.3

13 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 342 591 57.9 36.9 3287 6.1 205.4 16 19 180 30.5 52 37 6 41 71.2

14 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 282 514 54.9 32.1 3281 6.7 205.1 24 22 161 31.3 75T 50 9 25 73.5

Rushing stats:

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% Rsh 20+ 40+ FUM

1 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 537 33.6 2939 5.5 183.7 9 90T 134 25.0 9 23 4 8

2 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 522 32.6 2578 4.9 161.1 32 85T 137 26.2 32 20 9 8

3 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 513 32.1 2541 5.0 158.8 23 76 127 24.8 23 14 4 8

4 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 490 30.6 2216 4.5 138.5 13 38T 123 25.1 13 13 0 12

5 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 469 29.3 2214 4.7 138.4 15 70T 105 22.4 15 17 2 11

6 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 439 27.4 2172 4.9 135.8 12 72 97 22.1 12 20 6 10

7 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 455 28.4 2156 4.7 134.8 14 55T 120 26.4 14 13 3 7

8 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 488 30.5 2152 4.4 134.5 12 72T 106 21.7 12 16 4 12

9 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 513 32.1 2143 4.2 133.9 17 47 105 20.5 17 12 4 10

10 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 469 29.3 1992 4.2 124.5 16 76 100 21.3 16 16 4 12

11 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 416 26.0 1984 4.8 124.0 13 71T 106 25.5 13 11 1 6

12 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 499 31.2 1969 3.9 123.1 20 50 121 24.2 20 12 2 6

13 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 472 29.5 1936 4.1 121.0 21 77T 107 22.7 21 10 1 6

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 484 30.2 1923 4.0 120.2 8 37 112 23.1 8 8 0 9

15 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 503 31.4 1918 3.8 119.9 14 30T 103 20.5 14 7 0 5

Offensive TDs:

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Total Rsh Rec Ret Def

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 59 32 24 0 3

2 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 52 21 26 1 4

3 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 50 17 31 1 1

4 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 49 19 27 1 2

4 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 49 13 31 0 5

6 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 47 14 24 5 4

So basically what you're saying is the the offense was merely average in terms of yardage when facing:ARI (ranked 30th in the NFL in yards allowed)

SF (28th)

DET x 2 (27th)

NYG (26th)

STL (23rd)

SEA (22nd)

BUF (19th)

NYJ (18th)

Meh. Color me not impressed.

They scored 27 of their 38 TDs against the bottom third of the scoring defenses (teams like SF, DET, STL, NYG). I'll give the Bears this, they beat up on the crappy teams they're supposed to.

Average is all that they need to win games. Since the Bears D does not really give up points in most games, Bears O does not really need to score to win. At least in 5 games last year, Bears were simply running out the clock in the 4th quarter last year. Unlike the Saints or Colts O which had to score until the end to have a chance to win a game.

Right, I agree, I don't dispute that the Bears will win games with this offense. But the original post was that the Bears O comes up short when they need to score. In those cases, average against below average teams just doesn't cut it. And average won't cut it if the Bears want to WIN the Superbowl.

Facts:When the Bears needed to score to win a game against Lions (2nd game in Det) or Tampa or Seahawks in playoffs or Saints in playoffs (all instances where the games were close because the D did give up points....in some cases, lots of them...for eg Tampa game), they did do it.

Now they could not do it enough against the Pats or Colts.....

So there are examples for both cases. Not indisputable facts.

Now, I am sure someone will tell me how the Bucs were actually a horrible D so that does not count....and of course this will be the same person who will forget that Tony Romo has been placed in the HOF already because of his 5 TD game against the same Bucs team a few weeks apart. But this kind of biased hypocrisy is expected from haters.

 

[Sweetness_34]

So having a whole new coaching staff isn't going to affect SD at all? People are forgetting this. New coaches don't always just step in and take over where the last coach left off, especially in the rare circumstance that a team was actually this good. I think this also deserves some thought.

I think the concerns about the coaching changes are over rated.IMO, the coaching changes make or break .500 teams... when teams are on such an elite level as the Chargers (or ever NE when they lost Weiss/Crennel), the coaching changes have minimal impact.

Here's some interesting data from The Cold, Hard, Football, Facts:

* The Chargers went 14-2 in 2006, and won the West by five full games.

* They lost their two games by three points each.

* They led the league in scoring margin.

* They will have more or less the same squad in 2007.

Since the advent of the 16-game schedule in 1978, there have been 17 teams with 14 or more wins. Of those teams (listed in bold type), 12 won the division the next season (71 percent) and two more won 10 games.

* 1979 Steelers (12-4)

* 1984 Redskins (11-5)

* 1985 Dolphins (12-4)

* 1985 49ers (10-6) made playoffs

* 1986 Bears (14-2)

* 1987 Giants (7-8, strike season)

* 1987 Bears (11-4, strike season)

* 1990 49ers (14-2)

* 1991 49ers (10-6)

* 1993 49ers (10-6)

* 1999 Broncos (6-10)

* 1999 Falcons (5-11)

* 1999 Vikings (10-6)

* 2002 Rams (7-9)

* 2004 Patriots (14-2)

* 2005 Patriots (10-6)

* 2005 Steelers (11-5)

* 2006 Colts (12-4)

Also, the history of mediocre coaches with big shoes to fill has been on Turner's side as well.

Turner will not only be replacing a legend in Marty Schottenheimer (200 wins), but he'll be doing it off a good season. This has been a fairly rare occurrence over the Super Bowl era – we could only find nine examples of great coaches going out on top, and none of them were succeeded by future legends of the game.

However, the history suggests that in the year after the legend's departure, the shoe fillers did pretty well.

* 1967 Packers, Vince Lombardi 9-4-1 (SB)

* 1968 Packers, Phil Bengston 6-7-1

* 1975 Bengals, Paul Brown 11-5

* 1976 Bengals, Bill Johnson 10-4 (tied for div. lead, but no playoffs)

* 1977 Rams, Chuck Knox 10-4

* 1978 Rams, Ray Malavasi 12-4 (playoffs)

* 1988 49ers, Bill Walsh 10-6 (SB)

* 1989 49ers, George Seifert 14-2 (SB)

* 1990 Giants, Bill Parcells 13-3 (SB)

* 1991 Giants, Ray Handley 8-8

* 1993 Cowboys, Jimmy Johnson 12-4 (SB)

* 1994 Cowboys, Barry Switzer 12-4 (SB)

* 1996 Patriots, Bill Parcells 11-5 (SB)

* 1997 Patriots, Pete Carroll 10-6 (playoffs)

* 1998 Packers, Mike Holmgren 11-5

* 1999 Packers, Ray Rhodes 8-8

* 1999 Rams, **** Vermeil 13-3 (SB)

* 2000 Rams, Mike Martz 10-6 (playoffs)

The nine legends won a total of 100 games; their replacements won a total of 90 the next season. Not exactly a huge falloff, at least in the first year.

Interestingly, in every case save one (Malavasi), the shoe filler was gone before a half-decade was up – which suggests that Turner isn't a long-term answer.

Why is SD an elite team? What have they done? Oh that's right....they lost their only home playoff game last year

 

[zoonation]

Just watched Super Bowl XLI again. Bears got totally owned by Indy on offense and defense.

Grossman is terrible. I don't see how the Bears can beat SD unless the D somehow manages to do it for them.

I wouldn't be very confident that the D and special teams, as good as they are, will score enough points to win a lot of games this year.

And LOL at the Bears having a good-great offense.

Edit to add that the Bears will go 10-6 this year because of the cake schedule...again.

That's the same thing we heard last year. You guys never give up and never own up to being wrong. Your continued referral to a weak schedule year after year only makes you look imcompetent.

Just saw on NFL Network that heading into the season the Bears have the second easiest schedule on paper

I don't get the argument here. What does that even mean? I'm guessing every team with an easy schedule should get home field advantage and go to the SB each year. It doesn't matter what they do for some people. They'll still suck. Go to the SB last year? MEH! They had an easy schedule. Anyone else could've done it with that schedule. They won't win many this year. And if they do, it's merely the product of and easy schedule. Once they get a tougher schedule, they won't even be a .500 team. Going to the SB with 2 of your best defensive players out for the playoffs is meaningless. They suck!!!

I think the Bears are a good team (one of the best in the weak NFC). But not because of their offense and terrible QB play. I don't think they can get the same type of production out of Rex and win 13 games this year counting on defensive touchdowns.the relevance of the cake schedule is that it makes them look better than they actually are compared to the top teams in the league (AFC) The Bears would struggle to 8-8 in the AFC north if you switched them out for the Browns.

I agree that all you can do is play who is put in front of you.

Let me clue you in one more time. The Bears scored 38 TDs on O last year, 5 on returns; and 4 by defense .... I guess the Bears will be a 0-16 team if they do not get those 4 defensive TDs again, 2 of which were in one game last year vs the Cards.

Oh my God....where do these people come from?

You really need to stop with the name calling. It is childish.Let me clue you in - 20% of the Bears tds came on special teams. My point is that they will have a hard time winning as many games if they need that again this year to do it.

They beat up on bad teams because they are a good team, and they get to play bad teams a lot more often.

and LOL at the Jets comparison.

my point is that 6 games against Bal/Pit/Cin is far more daunting than 6 against Det/Min/GB. Come on now, even you can admit this.

finally, it is "correlation" not "co-relation".

I would say lets wait and see how it all plays out this year, but I anticipate the Bears will have a really good season, both because they are a good team and they have a cake schedule, again.

 

[DoubleG]

Just watched Super Bowl XLI again. Bears got totally owned by Indy on offense and defense.

Grossman is terrible. I don't see how the Bears can beat SD unless the D somehow manages to do it for them.

I wouldn't be very confident that the D and special teams, as good as they are, will score enough points to win a lot of games this year.

And LOL at the Bears having a good-great offense.

Edit to add that the Bears will go 10-6 this year because of the cake schedule...again.

That's the same thing we heard last year. You guys never give up and never own up to being wrong. Your continued referral to a weak schedule year after year only makes you look imcompetent.

Just saw on NFL Network that heading into the season the Bears have the second easiest schedule on paper

I don't get the argument here. What does that even mean? I'm guessing every team with an easy schedule should get home field advantage and go to the SB each year. It doesn't matter what they do for some people. They'll still suck. Go to the SB last year? MEH! They had an easy schedule. Anyone else could've done it with that schedule. They won't win many this year. And if they do, it's merely the product of and easy schedule. Once they get a tougher schedule, they won't even be a .500 team. Going to the SB with 2 of your best defensive players out for the playoffs is meaningless. They suck!!!

I think the Bears are a good team (one of the best in the weak NFC). But not because of their offense and terrible QB play. I don't think they can get the same type of production out of Rex and win 13 games this year counting on defensive touchdowns.the relevance of the cake schedule is that it makes them look better than they actually are compared to the top teams in the league (AFC) The Bears would struggle to 8-8 in the AFC north if you switched them out for the Browns.

I agree that all you can do is play who is put in front of you.

Let me clue you in one more time. The Bears scored 38 TDs on O last year, 5 on returns; and 4 by defense .... I guess the Bears will be a 0-16 team if they do not get those 4 defensive TDs again, 2 of which were in one game last year vs the Cards.

Oh my God....where do these people come from?

You really need to stop with the name calling. It is childish.Let me clue you in - 20% of the Bears tds came on special teams. My point is that they will have a hard time winning as many games if they need that again this year to do it.

They beat up on bad teams because they are a good team, and they get to play bad teams a lot more often.

and LOL at the Jets comparison.

my point is that 6 games against Bal/Pit/Cin is far more daunting than 6 against Det/Min/GB. Come on now, even you can admit this.

finally, it is "correlation" not "co-relation".

I would say lets wait and see how it all plays out this year, but I anticipate the Bears will have a really good season, both because they are a good team and they have a cake schedule, again.

First off, in the post you quoted, Sweetness didn't call anyone a name - but he's a big boy, so I'll get to my point.Since this is a Chargers/Bears thread, I'll keep it relative to those two teams.

You keep saying the Bears might make it to the SuperBowl due to their "cake schedule" - I assume you mean compared to the Chargers schedule - as the Chargers play in the division with KC, Denver and the Raiders. Ironically, the Bears will play all those teams this year as well - and lo, and behold, the Chargers will get to eat some "cake" as well - as they play the Lions, Vikings and Packers...oh my. Funny how that works out huh?

And, outside their division games and AFC games, the Bears other NFC opponents this year are the Seahwaks, the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Saints and the Redskins - all of whom (except for the Redskins) were playoff teams.

I'm sorry, but to say the Bears have a "cake" schedule, when they play the AFC West and 5 playoff teams from the NFC is a bit off - especially if, on the flipside, one tries to bemoan how the Chargers have a tought schdule playing the AFC West. Yes, the Bears get to play the Lions twice - just as SD gets to play Oakland twice.

Incidentally, a good regular season record due to a "cake" schedule doesn't mean anything in the playoffs - in the playoffs you play playoff-caliber teams. But, ironically, the Chargers are the poster team for that, as they were 14-2 during the regular season, but then lost at home to the Patriots.

 

[BeachBums]

Incidentally, a good regular season record due to a "cake" schedule doesn't mean anything in the playoffs - in the playoffs you play playoff-caliber teams. But, ironically, the Chargers are the poster team for that, as they were 14-2 during the regular season, but then lost at home to the Patriots.

That's EXACTLY what the Chargers are going to be thinking going into this game. I don't think you can argue that the Bears are as talented as the Chargers, but you (Bears fans) probably will. Plus the game is in SD, plus the Chargers have a HUGE chip on their shoulders. The line on the game is Chargers -5.5 to -7 which is the same spread as the NE V. NYJ game and the JAX v. TEN game.

 

[PsychoMan]

I don't care who is replacing Tank Johnson now, I just recall when he was released that the Bears fans were claiming that it didn't matter and that they wouldn't suffer a drop off with his replacement. I guess that was just wishful thinking by Bears fans.

I didn't read the whole thread, nor know exactly what you are arguing about, but I'm a Bears fan and said the quote above when I heard Tank was being released. I still stand by that statement - I don't think Tank was that good and is very replacable. What has come to light to change that?

 

[Despyzer]

So having a whole new coaching staff isn't going to affect SD at all? People are forgetting this. New coaches don't always just step in and take over where the last coach left off, especially in the rare circumstance that a team was actually this good. I think this also deserves some thought.

The head coach and both coordinators either installed the systems currently in place or have worked within the system for a number of years. There is a LOT more consistency here than what you see on paper. Due to the experience of the people involved, this should be one of the more seamless transitions that anyone has ever seen. It would be a mistake to underestimate this team based a "whole new coaching staff" and "new coaches." Neither of those statements really apply.

 

[Despyzer]

Why is SD an elite team? What have they done? Oh that's right....they lost their only home playoff game last year

They have won 35 regular season games in the last three years. There aren't too many NFL teams that have done better.

 

[DPRugby]

Going to the game!!!! Can't wait, go Boltz!

Chargers - 24

Bears - 13

 

[PsychoMan]

Going to the game!!!! Can't wait, go Boltz!Chargers - 24Bears - 13

I'm jealous. That would be an awesome game to go to. Home opener. In sunny San Diego against da Bears.I'll be on my couch ...

 

[DPRugby]

Going to the game!!!! Can't wait, go Boltz!Chargers - 24Bears - 13

I'm jealous. That would be an awesome game to go to. Home opener. In sunny San Diego against da Bears.I'll be on my couch ...

I'm actually flying down from the Bay Area Sunday morning to catch this game. I think it's going to be a great game that will come down to turnovers. My score above is wishful thinking, I know the Bears D line is improved over 06 if that's even friggin possible. I just hope the SD D line can make Rex play like he did against Arizona.

 

[RBM]

If I were a Charger fan I would be very worried

Norv + Ted Cotrell = DISASTER

 

[BroadwayG]

I predict one of Benson/Grossman/Berrian/Muhammed will not finish the game due to injury.

 

[PsychoMan]

I predict one of Benson/Grossman/Berrian/Muhammed will not finish the game due to injury.

:shakesfistinanger:

 

[BroadwayG]

I predict one of Benson/Grossman/Berrian/Muhammed will not finish the game due to injury.

:shakesfistinanger:

The good news is that I have absolutely nothing to base this prediction on.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Hey Aints fans - It is a good thing that your ####-ty defense at least has an offense to go with it.....oh wait, your O scored a whopping 3 pts against the same Colts team that the Bears met in the SB.....actually this Colts team has a worse D than that one

 

[Sweetness_34]

And LOL at the Bears having a good-great offense.

Keep ignoring facts/stats ..... just shows you are clueless. You may return to playing 54-45 shoot outs on your Madden 2007.

Facts? Statistics? All I see you yammering about is last year. Is the game a home game for the Bears? I haven't checked. That may be important since a player or two may need a judge's permission to travel outside the state.

Can I yammer about this year? Colts 41....your precious Aints 10..... Brees for President....3 pts against that great Colts D....well done Aints. Thank God you at least have the over-rated Reggie Bush on your team......7 yards receiving?

 

[Sweetness_34]

I like IND v. NO better, personally.

None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.

The Colts seemed to play pretty good defense against the Bears. I vote for NO/Indy.

How did the Aints do against that Colts D? Oh that's right.....

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

IMO, the coaching changes make or break .500 teams... when teams are on such an elite level as the Chargers (or ever NE when they lost Weiss/Crennel), the coaching changes have minimal impact.

The Pats have not been the same since losing Weis & Crennel.

 

[PsychoMan]

Bears 27

Chargers 20

 

[Burning Sensation]

Bears 27Chargers 20

The Bears are going to score 27 on the Chargers in Sandiego?

 

[DoubleG]

I like IND v. NO better, personally.

None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.

The Colts seemed to play pretty good defense against the Bears. I vote for NO/Indy.

How did the Aints do against that Colts D? Oh that's right.....

Dude, I'm a Bears fan too, but c'mon. Stop pissing in the Bears/Chargers thread.

 

[DoubleG]

I predict one of Benson/Grossman/Berrian/Muhammed will not finish the game due to injury.

Funny - I was going to the same thing about LT or Rivers.

 

[jonessed]

Bears 27Chargers 20

The Bears are going to score 27 on the Chargers in Sandiego?

That includes 2 defensive TDs, a run by Hester, and a 60 yard field goal by Mike Ditka.

 

[flapgreen]

I like IND v. NO better, personally.

None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.

The Colts seemed to play pretty good defense against the Bears. I vote for NO/Indy.

How did the Aints do against that Colts D? Oh that's right.....

Dude, I'm a Bears fan too, but c'mon. Stop pissing in the Bears/Chargers thread.

:X

 

[flapgreen]

Bears 27Chargers 20

The Bears are going to score 27 on the Chargers in Sandiego?

That includes 2 defensive TDs, a run by Hester, and a 60 yard field goal by Mike Ditka.

:X

 

[Sweetness_34]

It will be a good game....anyone can win it

 

[Penguin]

I truly believe that the Chargers are going to throttle the Bears on Sunday. I see a 10-17 point victory.

ETA: spelling

 

[PsychoMan]

Bears 27Chargers 20

The Bears are going to score 27 on the Chargers in Sandiego?

That includes 2 defensive TDs, a run by Hester, and a 60 yard field goal by Mike Ditka.