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Beatles 2025 14 LP Vinyl Mono Box Set - 🇫🇷 Doing the French Mistake? - U.S. BEATLES STORE SOLD OUT (1 Viewer)

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This is actually big news for record nerds. The Beatles are re-releasing their 14 LP vinyl mono box set. The last time this was released was either in 2014 or 2009 (I’m not sure which). The individual mono LPs were running $150 floor for the least popular title and I’m pretty sure that’s the lowest of lowball pricing (I made it up). Every time I checked they were $200+ regardless of the record.

Anyway, the pre-order is going on and it’s an eminently reasonable (not necessarily for all of us, but this is a PSA of sorts) price of $545.

It’s a spectacular looking set, and I’ve heard plenty vouchsafe it. I personally cannot do that nor vouch for the place selling it (I’m almost 100% positive it is the authentic U.S. Beatles store but please make sure and take care) because I do not own one. Caveat emptor.

eta* they’re advertising that they’re using analog sources for the project, which is sort of unreal. A lot of big releases cut costs and don’t want to mess up the reels of tape because it degrades with use. I do not know whether they’re using original masters or whether every step is analog; that’s going to have to be research you dig for.

eta2* I am really surprised they’re putting out the set again; I assumed the ones from last decade would be it.

Happy Beatles Day!
 
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Well, you all had your five hours or so. The thread at Steve Hoffman forums started at 9:30 this morning (I’m assuming news broke today) and was at 29 pages as of 6:00 PM PDT.

The maximum quantity allowed per purchase (maybe per buyer) was four sets, which seemed totally off to me and a bit wrong if you’re trying to broaden the customer base, but when I think about it they were likely considering and meeting the needs of brick and mortar and other businesses, music retail stores, and niche/internet resellers. Plus, if you knew what this meant and you saw this I guess you should act without looking a gift horse in the mouth.

I am also cracking up that there might (possibly) be a minuscule few people on this board (except for one particular bedazzling Beatlemaniac who I know owns this set) who have any concrete idea what I’m on about.
 
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Are these the British or U.S. versions?

They were the British versions. I'm pretty sure you saw the new title, but in case you missed it, they sold out. I'm pretty sure they'll be around in July (I think the date was July 18th) for resale, but the $545 will probably get jacked up by an amount I can't possibly predict.

The American ones were just re-released in mono in 2024. I think those were priced totally reasonably. I think it was $300 for eight records (edited for accuracy). You can get them from Amazon for $225 for all eight records right this minute. Peace, Uruk.
 
Are these the British or U.S. versions?

They were the British versions. I'm pretty sure you saw the new title, but in case you missed it, they sold out. I'm pretty sure they'll be around in July (I think the date was July 18th) for resale, but the $545 will probably get jacked up by an amount I can't possibly predict.

The American ones were just re-released in mono in 2024. I think those were priced totally reasonably. I think it was $300 for eight records (edited for accuracy). You can get them from Amazon for $225 for all eight records right this minute. Peace, Uruk.
Thanks. I knew something had happened recently with the U.S. versions, but couldn't recall what it was.

Did this new British release include the two Past Masters LPs?
 
Are these the British or U.S. versions?

They were the British versions. I'm pretty sure you saw the new title, but in case you missed it, they sold out. I'm pretty sure they'll be around in July (I think the date was July 18th) for resale, but the $545 will probably get jacked up by an amount I can't possibly predict.

The American ones were just re-released in mono in 2024. I think those were priced totally reasonably. I think it was $300 for eight records (edited for accuracy). You can get them from Amazon for $225 for all eight records right this minute. Peace, Uruk.
Thanks. I knew something had happened recently with the U.S. versions, but couldn't recall what it was.

Did this new British release include the two Past Masters LPs?

The records that were included was something I absolutely could not figure out. I looked for a good hour. They did a lousy job with that aspect, but I guess they didn’t really need to. Sheesh. But I actually looked with someone. You know what? I never checked the Steve Hoffman thread other than for the link. They’re usually in the know. A super fan will figure it out or they have industry and label guys often just pop in and dish.
 
Are these the British or U.S. versions?

They were the British versions. I'm pretty sure you saw the new title, but in case you missed it, they sold out. I'm pretty sure they'll be around in July (I think the date was July 18th) for resale, but the $545 will probably get jacked up by an amount I can't possibly predict.

The American ones were just re-released in mono in 2024. I think those were priced totally reasonably. I think it was $300 for eight records (edited for accuracy). You can get them from Amazon for $225 for all eight records right this minute. Peace, Uruk.
Thanks. I knew something had happened recently with the U.S. versions, but couldn't recall what it was.

Did this new British release include the two Past Masters LPs?

The German site said there were two Mono Masters LPs

It said “Mono Masters (1962-1970)”

The UK site has artwork and track listing

 
We had a fun thread here many, many years ago about slotting the Past Masters' records into their corresponding LPs. You had to remove a song for everyone you inserted. Most wanted to nuke the covers (I fought against that in many cases). But where it got really interesting was when we were considering what to do with the Yellow Submarine and (especially) Magical Mystery Tour albums. The (not) dearly departed PSF had nothing on those discussions :lol:
 
We had a fun thread here many, many years ago about slotting the Past Masters' records into their corresponding LPs. You had to remove a song for everyone you inserted. Most wanted to nuke the covers (I fought against that in many cases). But where it got really interesting was when we were considering what to do with the Yellow Submarine and (especially) Magical Mystery Tour albums. The (not) dearly departed PSF had nothing on those discussions :lol:

I don’t completely get the logistics and gameplay, but I think I would have nuked a bunch of the covers. LOL. But keep your hands off my “Twist and Shout.”
 
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eta* Damn, no Beatles nerds ever had the U.S. version of Meet The Beatles! where the German version of “I Want to Hold Your Hand” would come on and the record would go around and around, the listener too busy, lazy, or deeply into a pack of cigarettes to change the song, huh? Well, velkommen to the 1994 fall season of my junior year in college.

 
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Let me say up front, I'm not intending to **** on anyone's idea of a good time. I should also state that I've no interest in vinyl and was happy to no longer hear scratches on discs I played to death when I moved over to CDs (and now streaming).

But I'm gobsmacked someone would pay ~$40 per mono vinyl album and think it was a good deal. Clearly scarcity isn't an issue as they can drop another batch later (notwithstanding any degradation in the tape; it's mono, who's gonna know?). So what is it?

BTW, does the Michael Jackson estate still own the Beatles catalog? Or was it sold on to someone else and I missed that.
 
Let me say up front, I'm not intending to **** on anyone's idea of a good time. I should also state that I've no interest in vinyl and was happy to no longer hear scratches on discs I played to death when I moved over to CDs (and now streaming).

But I'm gobsmacked someone would pay ~$40 per mono vinyl album and think it was a good deal. Clearly scarcity isn't an issue as they can drop another batch later (notwithstanding any degradation in the tape; it's mono, who's gonna know?). So what is it?

BTW, does the Michael Jackson estate still own the Beatles catalog? Or was it sold on to someone else and I missed that.
I get it. I'm a Beatles fan. The music catalog they have is about as good as u can have. I also agree that streaming music is the way. This is the way. I think this drop is more for collectors. .I don't collect anything. My son collected pokeman and my daughter collected America girl dolls. I know there were years where I could slap pokeman of American girl doll on a pile of our dogs crap and they would be happy to open for Christmas. Once again dont collect anything, but having something unopened in vinyl seems kinda cool.
 
Let me say up front, I'm not intending to **** on anyone's idea of a good time. I should also state that I've no interest in vinyl and was happy to no longer hear scratches on discs I played to death when I moved over to CDs (and now streaming).

But I'm gobsmacked someone would pay ~$40 per mono vinyl album and think it was a good deal. Clearly scarcity isn't an issue as they can drop another batch later (notwithstanding any degradation in the tape; it's mono, who's gonna know?). So what is it?

BTW, does the Michael Jackson estate still own the Beatles catalog? Or was it sold on to someone else and I missed that.

You ask fair questions; I don’t think you’re a bad trip. Forty bucks is very expensive (edited with a strikethrough) but is almost standard these days for all-analog reissues from master recordings (they are indeed using the original masters).

The box and book look beautiful, so it seems to be packaged wonderfully. YMMV on the value of that.

Mono recordings of rock n' roll and other popular music from 1966 or earlier (and sometimes up until '68 or '69 depending) that were produced and recorded in the mono format are sought after these days because people want to hear records that reflect how the recordings were originally intended to be heard. I think the resurgence of the format came from industry response to a recognition that started in the mid-1990s among increasing numbers of consumers (like me) that true mono reproductions of music recorded and produced in mono was not only a possibility but also the buying public's preference, and these requests, aggregated en masse, showed the music industry that there was a newly powerful consumer demand bloc. These consumers, whose numbers had grown, began to buy records from companies that had undertaken new efforts to reproduce mono recordings. So there were new revenue streams and profits once the new mono records that the public had clamored for became available for purchase.

With this in mind, note that The Beatles have been in unwaveringly high demand since about 1963 among rock n' roll record buyers, and they were a prime example of a band that had specifically recorded in mono and had spent much of their available energy and monetary budget for recording and production within the mono format. So the mono part of the box set is a big deal.

The prices of many older records still extant also tell you where the public and audio guys are at, and The Beatles record prices were especially illuminating of this trend. There is a significant price disparity between mono and stereo Beatles records. You can get a high-quality Parlophone Beatles record in stereo for . . . crap. I don’t even know. Wanna know why? Nobody wants stereo! The Beatles catalogue in the new box set just released didn’t even bother with a stereo version this time around because you can get reasonable facsimiles of those stereo reproductions from Amazon for around $25. I’m not joking. I’ll look up the Parlophone stereo prices and come back. eta* Yeah, really good audio resale companies sell great Beatles stereo reissues for about $30. These are 180 gram, all-analog records that are remastered by good engineers. Nothing to sneeze at; but The Beatles' Parlophone mono records were fetching $200 for each title on average until a few days ago.

I do see a validity to the skepticism regarding the quality and necessity of mono reissues, and I get that it’s also ripe for cash grabs; I surely dig that there is a healthy dollop of greed and there are suckers that are involved in the machinery of the industry. There are consumers who buy industry cash grabs and line the pockets of the unscrupulous.

My take is that I personally prefer mono to stereo in any decade because I have always thought (for thirty years of so) that stereo recording and reproduction is artificial. It’s fake. You don’t hear music in stereo when you hear it live. So once I heard records how they were meant to be heard I've been a proponent of mono.

Now there are exceptions. The Beach Boys are different and sound great in stereo because they put endless hours and beaucoup bucks into it.

Sony owns The Beatles publishing catalogue. They purchased half of it from Michael Jackson in ‘1995, and the other half from his estate after his death. The Beatles own the synchronization publishing rights, which aren't insubstantial.

Here's George Harrison about The Beatles and their attitude about mono vs. stereo. From Reddit:

"At that time [...] the console was about this big with four faders on it. And there was one speaker right in the middle [...] and that was it. When they invented stereo, I remember thinking 'Why? What do you want two speakers for?', because it ruined the sound from our point of view. You know, we had everything coming out of one speaker; now it had to come out of two speakers. It sounded like ... very ... naked."

It’s a consistent theme with them.

eta* This post has been edited numerous times in many ways to strengthen its main assertions with more thoughtful, thorough explanations and for clarity
 
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Every set a slap from Emmanuel Macron’s wife!


Make sure they ship to America! Caveat emptor and be careful with the supply chain end-around implied by this link (I cannot promise that this works)!
 
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How's the dubbing on the French version, worth it or just go subtitles?

foxco, for you, I took about ten minutes to bring you the best of an almost unfruitful search for a momento from the boys on their 1965 trip to France. Not necessarily off of the beaten path, but in fine form from Paris. John's request is universal and transcends mere language, so no subtitles are needed.

 
We had a fun thread here many, many years ago about slotting the Past Masters' records into their corresponding LPs. You had to remove a song for everyone you inserted. Most wanted to nuke the covers (I fought against that in many cases). But where it got really interesting was when we were considering what to do with the Yellow Submarine and (especially) Magical Mystery Tour albums. The (not) dearly departed PSF had nothing on those discussions :lol:
a) You better not have protected "A Taste of Honey."

b) I know which side of the debate KP would have been on had he liked the Beatles.
 

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