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Been a good run...I'm done with the FF (1 Viewer)

Judging by your 27.5k posts, you might have more time with both the family and fantasy football if you spent less time on the message boards :thumbup:
I'd be lost without The Walking Dead thread in the FFA. Or at least a lot more bored than usual. :)
Pretty sure about 20K of my posts were related to FFA Album/Movie/timschochet drafts.

:lol:
I don't wanna know what percentage of my posts went to the old Lost and Sopranos threads and The Walking Dead thread. Might make me more than a little sad. :)
FBGs is basically like independent George for me. One day I was at lunch with my boss who confessed he's spending way too much time on a lax board. He played D-1 lacrosse, two kids on travel teams, it's understandable. I was THIS CLOSE to spilling the beans. Then he pulls out his phone:

"Look at this. I've posted 386 times on this message board the last couple years."

I put my head down & ate my salad.

 
Saber,

We've had many conversations in the threads these past few years and I'm sure everyone will miss your input & activity.

I'm with you. This year is exactly my 20th season in FF, too, and I began my own personal "12 step plan" to exit last year as the season wound down and I was realizing I am burned out. As a commish in a few leagues, I had to get the ducks in a row.

Like several have mentioned, the random luck has eclipsed the value of the time investment that used to reward those who studied the game. There comes a point these days where you realize that the amount of time you put into it netted you about $0.14/hour and, in the end, getting that $0.14 payout was really just the result of a coin flip on whether some guy had a better waiver priority or saw the tweet first.

For me, it has never been about the money and so, with no golden carrot to chase, the satisfaction comes down to "Was I the best?" That's hard to justify when you realize your "best" team just lost because some dude fell into Buck Allen, randomly, or you played against the Titans who refuse to play defense at all. This isn't bitter grapes—I am in the playoffs across the board, had top records/points generously across my leagues. I just hate seeing the randomness so blatant.

Anyway, that issue and the fact that the NFL is truly a poor product these days has helped push me out the door. After realizing that I often wait 7 minutes in real time to celebrate a TD or a few minutes to celebrate (or gripe about) a catch as the officials analyze each frame and we listen to the announcers speculate on "did it move?", "did he demonstrate control for 1,2,3 steps?", "did that ball move?", etc, it has become apparent that everything that used to excite me in the moment as a sports fan has been completely neutered. They have destroyed the flow of the game and they have pushed games and events onto so many nights (and watered the quality of the product down terribly) that they have helped me not care as much. It's been easy completely skipping 3 of the last 4 TNF games so it is aiding my "transition".

I'm ready to watch games and care about results; not about "did his WR just catch that?" No more mis-matched loyalties where I have to root for or against players and teams I don't want to.

I knew when I opened this thread I would see 80% of the responses be poor shtick and snarky responses but believe me boys (and girls), you'll ALL come to that point and, quite frankly, if you never did, you probably didn't live long enough and ever come to appreciate the truly important things.

Anything in moderation is good. And maybe a break from a very long tenure of service is what is needed and Saber and I and others will all be back someday but, for myself, I clearly see the product not being good enough to support the desire to watch that much football anymore.
Outstanding post.

I am done as well at the conclusion of this season. I have been on house money for a long time. It's not about the money. I loved FF because I loved the NFL for a long time. But over the last 5 years that love has been lost. And I mean it is really gone. I could care less about watching NFL football for the most part. I actually get far more pleasure watching other major sports (MLB, NHL, NBA), and I can find a lot better things to do on Sundays with my son who has zero interest in the NFL. He rather watch college football on Saturdays. If that's the case....I am going to be a Saturday football guy going forward. NCAA football still is highly entertaining (although games take forever) and you can see the passion oooze through the screen from those kids. 99% of who will never sniff an NFL field.

The game has been shredded, sliced and diced and heavily watered down as Shutout has pointed out so well in his post. The NFL I grew to love between 1980-2000 is dead. Truly dead and buried. And soon (over the next decade) the NFL will go through a major problem with attendance numbers, quality talent and a quality product as youth football is slowly being neutered due to head injuries. I know so many parents pulling their kids from playing tackle football. it won't happen overnight but it will happen.

And then you have basically all the skill gone from FF. With twitter, internet and 5000 experts....it's mostly luck folks. I win plenty. I am in the playoffs pretty much every year in all my dynasty leagues, have won 10 titles over the last 25 years many many second place finishes, third place etc etc. It was always about draft day with redraft and getting together every Sunday to watch games at our local watering hole and go crazy. Those days ended as all of us grew up, got married, had kids and got a life. So I turned to dynasty leagues and was hooked. Love them. But that too is over. Too many weak owners, making god awful decisions and owner turnover is rampant. It's over folks.

The game (FF) jumped the shark a while ago. Everyone and their uncle looks at their phones all day and cheers not for the game itself...but for their WW pick up scoring a TD. Blech. It feels tacky at this point. I guess I am getting too old for this fodder.

I just want to see if I can possibly just enjoy the NFL again for the game itself (which is hard to do right now) If I eliminate all fantasy implications from the equation I think I can just get back to watching football again.

I love this board. I will still hang around in the FFA, but I don't think I will have anything to talk about in the Shark Pool anymore if I pull the plug (which I am pretty much going to do) on FF. Who knows....maybe I keep one redraft league for ####s and giggles...if so I will be around (for those who care). But yeah....the game is just not even close to what it was (both FF and the NFL).

 
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It seems like the guys who got into this hobby 10-20 years ago are aging, and considering moving on with their lives. I still enjoy mining for players, building a team, and seeing it do well, but the burden of having to monitor injuries and set fantasy lineups often gets in the way of life. I find myself turning down great opportunities with friends or family just because I need to see if TJ Yeldon will suit up for the game against Atlanta.
I think that's a lot of it. There's a season for everything. Fantasy football is in many ways a young man's game. When I was in college, I used to play a dozen or more leagues a year. Now that I'm a dad, I'm losing my mind if I have more than five. If I had a "real" job, even that would be unbearable.

As an aside, perhaps it's just me getting older, but I'm a huge fan of rules allowing for conditional lineups. Basically, you post "If Yeldon plays, I start him. If not, I start ______." It just allows fantasy football to fit in more easily with everything else you have going on in life. I can go on vacation with my family, or go to a special event at a museum on Sunday morning with my 3-year-old, and I'm not devoting even a second of thought to whether Brian Hoyer cleared the concussion protocol. If he did, great. If he didn't, great. I'm set either way.

 
Judging by your 27.5k posts, you might have more time with both the family and fantasy football if you spent less time on the message boards :thumbup:
I'd be lost without The Walking Dead thread in the FFA. Or at least a lot more bored than usual. :)
Pretty sure about 20K of my posts were related to FFA Album/Movie/timschochet drafts.

:lol:
I don't wanna know what percentage of my posts went to the old Lost and Sopranos threads and The Walking Dead thread. Might make me more than a little sad. :)
FBGs is basically like independent George for me. One day I was at lunch with my boss who confessed he's spending way too much time on a lax board. He played D-1 lacrosse, two kids on travel teams, it's understandable. I was THIS CLOSE to spilling the beans. Then he pulls out his phone:

"Look at this. I've posted 386 times on this message board the last couple years."

I put my head down & ate my salad.
:lmao:

 
Saber,

We've had many conversations in the threads these past few years and I'm sure everyone will miss your input & activity.

I'm with you. This year is exactly my 20th season in FF, too, and I began my own personal "12 step plan" to exit last year as the season wound down and I was realizing I am burned out. As a commish in a few leagues, I had to get the ducks in a row.

Like several have mentioned, the random luck has eclipsed the value of the time investment that used to reward those who studied the game. There comes a point these days where you realize that the amount of time you put into it netted you about $0.14/hour and, in the end, getting that $0.14 payout was really just the result of a coin flip on whether some guy had a better waiver priority or saw the tweet first.

For me, it has never been about the money and so, with no golden carrot to chase, the satisfaction comes down to "Was I the best?" That's hard to justify when you realize your "best" team just lost because some dude fell into Buck Allen, randomly, or you played against the Titans who refuse to play defense at all. This isn't bitter grapes—I am in the playoffs across the board, had top records/points generously across my leagues. I just hate seeing the randomness so blatant.

Anyway, that issue and the fact that the NFL is truly a poor product these days has helped push me out the door. After realizing that I often wait 7 minutes in real time to celebrate a TD or a few minutes to celebrate (or gripe about) a catch as the officials analyze each frame and we listen to the announcers speculate on "did it move?", "did he demonstrate control for 1,2,3 steps?", "did that ball move?", etc, it has become apparent that everything that used to excite me in the moment as a sports fan has been completely neutered. They have destroyed the flow of the game and they have pushed games and events onto so many nights (and watered the quality of the product down terribly) that they have helped me not care as much. It's been easy completely skipping 3 of the last 4 TNF games so it is aiding my "transition".

I'm ready to watch games and care about results; not about "did his WR just catch that?" No more mis-matched loyalties where I have to root for or against players and teams I don't want to.

I knew when I opened this thread I would see 80% of the responses be poor shtick and snarky responses but believe me boys (and girls), you'll ALL come to that point and, quite frankly, if you never did, you probably didn't live long enough and ever come to appreciate the truly important things.

Anything in moderation is good. And maybe a break from a very long tenure of service is what is needed and Saber and I and others will all be back someday but, for myself, I clearly see the product not being good enough to support the desire to watch that much football anymore.
Outstanding post.

I am done as well at the conclusion of this season. I have been on house money for a long time. It's not about the money. I loved FF because I loved the NFL for a long time. But over the last 5 years that love has been lost. And I mean it is really gone. I could care less about watching NFL football for the most part. I actually get far more pleasure watching other major sports (MLB, NHL, NBA), and I can find a lot better things to do on Sundays with my son who has zero interest in the NFL. He rather watch college football on Saturdays. If that's the case....I am going to be a Saturday football guy going forward. NCAA football still is highly entertaining (although games take forever) and you can see the passion oooze through the screen from those kids. 99% of who will never sniff an NFL field.

The game has been shredded, sliced and diced and heavily watered down as Shutout has pointed out so well in his post. The NFL I grew to love between 1980-2000 is dead. Truly dead and buried. And soon (over the next decade) the NFL will go through a major problem with attendance numbers, quality talent and a quality product as youth football is slowly being neutered due to head injuries. I know so many parents pulling their kids from playing tackle football. it won't happen overnight but it will happen.

And then you have basically all the skill gone from FF. With twitter, internet and 5000 experts....it's mostly luck folks. I win plenty. I am in the playoffs pretty much every year in all my dynasty leagues, have won 10 titles over the last 25 years many many second place finishes, third place etc etc. It was always about draft day with redraft and getting together every Sunday to watch games at our local watering hole and go crazy. Those days ended as all of us grew up, got married, had kids and got a life. So I turned to dynasty leagues and was hooked. Love them. But that too is over. Too many weak owners, making god awful decisions and owner turnover is rampant. It's over folks.

The game (FF) jumped the shark a while ago. Everyone and their uncle looks at their phones all day and cheers not for the game itself...but for their WW pick up scoring a TD. Blech. It feels tacky at this point. I guess I am getting too old for this fodder.

I just want to see if I can possibly just enjoy the NFL again for the game itself (which is hard to do right now) If I eliminate all fantasy implications from the equation I think I can just get back to watching football again.

I love this board. I will still hang around in the FFA, but I don't think I will have anything to talk about in the Shark Pool anymore if I pull the plug (which I am pretty much going to do) on FF. Who knows....maybe I keep one redraft league for ####s and giggles...if so I will be around (for those who care). But yeah....the game is just not even close to what it was (both FF and the NFL).
Your resolve to quit petered out by the end of your post. :thumbup:

 
It seems like the guys who got into this hobby 10-20 years ago are aging, and considering moving on with their lives. I still enjoy mining for players, building a team, and seeing it do well, but the burden of having to monitor injuries and set fantasy lineups often gets in the way of life. I find myself turning down great opportunities with friends or family just because I need to see if TJ Yeldon will suit up for the game against Atlanta.
I think that's a lot of it. There's a season for everything. Fantasy football is in many ways a young man's game. When I was in college, I used to play a dozen or more leagues a year. Now that I'm a dad, I'm losing my mind if I have more than five. If I had a "real" job, even that would be unbearable.

As an aside, perhaps it's just me getting older, but I'm a huge fan of rules allowing for conditional lineups. Basically, you post "If Yeldon plays, I start him. If not, I start ______." It just allows fantasy football to fit in more easily with everything else you have going on in life. I can go on vacation with my family, or go to a special event at a museum on Sunday morning with my 3-year-old, and I'm not devoting even a second of thought to whether Brian Hoyer cleared the concussion protocol. If he did, great. If he didn't, great. I'm set either way.
What leagues allow for conditional lineups? Any major companies?

I'm not quitting FF, but leaning toward best ball leagues with waiver pickups (Draft Experts Plus leagues in FFPC). Seems like the best of both worlds to me.

 
It seems like the guys who got into this hobby 10-20 years ago are aging, and considering moving on with their lives. I still enjoy mining for players, building a team, and seeing it do well, but the burden of having to monitor injuries and set fantasy lineups often gets in the way of life. I find myself turning down great opportunities with friends or family just because I need to see if TJ Yeldon will suit up for the game against Atlanta.
I think it definitely depends on where you are in life. The older you get, the more of a waste of time it feels like. To the young guys, I think you are better off getting out now before you look back at the 15 years you wasted. But if you keep playing, just try to have fun with it and not take it too seriously. If you can't play without taking it to seriously, get out.

[SIZE=10.5pt]This "hobby" has been nothing more than a complete waste of time and a strain on my health and relationships. Yes there some positives about it like the comradery with friends, but the negatives so completely outweigh the positives that it's not worth doing it. I absolutely hate fantasy football now and receive zero joy from it in my 20th year doing it. It no longer enhances my NFL watching experience, it completely ruins it. I waste time talking trades and arguing player value, researching backups, reading injury reports, looking at strength of schedule, 2nd guessing decisions, trying to find the next f-ing arian foster etc. all for NOTHING. All this, when in the end it's nothing more than glorified gambling where luck still outweighs your "skill" and research by a long way.[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm still in two leagues because it's the only contact I have with about 25 people and I keep getting guilted into staying another year. I'm never happy on sundays. Even when I win, it's more relief than celebration. God forbid you torture yourself by watching each play unfold throughout the day. "Why the #### does Ryan Tannehill have to throw it to Jarvis Landry every other play????" Or better yet, "why didn't I draft Landry over Andre Williams in my rookie draft??? I should have known better!!"[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=10.5pt]Maybe some of you can handle this #### better than me, but I know way too many people who feel the same way. To them I say, just quit. Just rip it off like a ####ing band aid. Don't be fooled that being in a league will create some kind of great platform for you and your friends to keep in touch. All we do is argue, complain and talk #### about each other anyway. I'd rather never see them again than waste my time doing that. I'm pretty sure if fantasy football is the only thing that makes me contact you, then we are not truly friends anyway.[/SIZE]

 
I'm a huge fan of rules allowing for conditional lineups
I'm pretty sure I'm going to move the one league I'm commissioner for over to best ball. A big part of FF luck is the week to week variance. Going best ball will eliminate all the time spent agonizing over lineup decisions as well. It basically reduces your FF effort to roster management. I consider it a half way step to just quitting FF altogether.

Another thing I've gotten better at is just not watching the games. It really reduces the impact of FF on the rest of your life. You can catch them again during the week via dvr or NFL channel replays if you're looking to scout. But avoiding sitting through the agony of watching the games in real time has really reduced the stress/impact of FF for me.

 
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I have hung on far too long myself. My best friend and I created a league from nothing back in 1990. We didn't have internet. We had no guide on how to start or run a league. We had heard some vague rumblings about fantasy football, and it sounded like fun, so we hammered out some rules over coffee every night for at least a week. Some of the rules were creative, but failures nonetheless. We had some hiccups along the way, but we ironed those out over the next few seasons.

I have always been a bit of a stat junkie, but I looked forward to scoring the games from the USA Today mostly for the company of my leaguemates. Back in those days, the league was composed of friends and family. We got together for pizza or BBQ for the draft and for awards at the end of the season, and many Sundays in between. That was the best part of the league. We didn't play for much money. We played for bragging rights. The winner got a traveling trophy and the Toilet Bowl Chump had his team's name added to a traveling toilet seat and was made to deliver his acceptance speech from perched atop a commode and display the award on his wall all offseason. (In fact, we even had a rule that if another owner visited the Toilet Bowl Chump's home and did not find the Toilet Seat prominently displayed on his wall, he was obligated to buy drinks for the entire league.) None of that exists today, sadly.

When my best friend passed away, I felt almost obligated to keep the league going. Perhaps it has been a way of holding onto something he and I created together.

I've not yet decided if this will be my final season. I no longer invest an excessive amount of time or energy into this hobby. I am the Commissioner, but much of the work is handled by the hosting site. However, this hobby no longer brings me the joy it once did.

Sabertooth, I wish you well. You have long been one of the good guys on this site. I commend you for your decision to trade the time invested here for time with your family. That decision is one you will never regret.

Godspeed, my friend!

 
Judging by your 27.5k posts, you might have more time with both the family and fantasy football if you spent less time on the message boards :thumbup:
I'd be lost without The Walking Dead thread in the FFA. Or at least a lot more bored than usual. :)
Pretty sure about 20K of my posts were related to FFA Album/Movie/timschochet drafts.

:lol:
I don't wanna know what percentage of my posts went to the old Lost and Sopranos threads and The Walking Dead thread. Might make me more than a little sad. :)
FBGs is basically like independent George for me. One day I was at lunch with my boss who confessed he's spending way too much time on a lax board. He played D-1 lacrosse, two kids on travel teams, it's understandable. I was THIS CLOSE to spilling the beans. Then he pulls out his phone:

"Look at this. I've posted 386 times on this message board the last couple years."

I put my head down & ate my salad.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Also Sabertooth, good luck with whatever you choose.

 
I love this game too much to quit it but I do have to figure out a better way of handling the down times. I've had a couple of historically bad weeks this season and that has pretty much ruined those Sundays for me. I realize at the time I'm caring way too much (although there is a lot of money on the line) but it still feels like a massive kick in the nuts. I have to figure out a better way of working through that.
I think it helps to schedule family activities during games. Kind of sends the message (and it's a helluva lot louder than anything you can say) "This is what matters most to me." NFL Sunday? Well, if nothing else is going on. But if you guys want to go ice skating, that's cool. Or go hike the Appalachian Trail with them.

Or start by skipping the ####ty TNF/SNF/MNF matchup, you can read about it later.

I really love football - a lot of sports, actually - but your heart is where your treasure is, and nothing counts more than time. Just being there and spending time with your kids is pretty huge. You can't get that time back. They're only going to be 17 or 7 or an infant once. They'll be another NFL Sunday next week.

It would be great if either of my kids enjoyed the NFL but they don't. That's not going to change so I have to write memories some other way. I don't want them to ever wonder what mattered most to me.
If you go out of your way to schedule times during, then it's avoidance on some level and not balance. Balance is when you pick up the dry cleaning, bathe the dog, cook dinner, and mow the yard, and then off to Johnny's movie he wants to see and somehow you get your hobby time in. But if you are purposely doing things DURING the hobby time, then it begs the questions are you going out of your way to prove a point?I'm not calling you out. Just thought it is an interesting statement for all of us to look at because while you or I may be bale to carry this out, what I see a lot of (and have done and hate) is that, yeah, I'm "in the room" with the family on Christmas or Thanksgiving or any other football day and although I'm there in body, I am A MILLION miles away. The people that are talking to me are getting quick, canned, non-attentive answers because 98% of my mind is on watching that DJAX TD or trying to constantly keep up on the scores in my playoff week and heave help the poor souls when I start taking a bad beat because I'm like a pool of radioactive goo that nobody wants to approach and people then stop talking to me.

People pick up on it, especially kids. They know when Daddy or Mommy is in a bad mood. They might even know it's because you just saw Calvin Johnson go limping off to the sideline.

I remember two years ago, in the title game and it was Christmas and looking back on it, I can't believe I didn't get called out on it. My family is on the house, conversing, snacking, talking, having a good time. Meanwhile, I am holed up in the den watching a small, hardly used TV hanging on every play of football games. People are checking on me asking if I need anything (drink/food). Occasionally, I get the "hey come here, we are ready to eat" or "hey, come here. Grandpa is here and we are going to give him his gift"

That was my "aha" moment in that this is not bigger/better than life doing other things. It is a very time-consuming hobby that can absolutely drain you emotionally and put your worst face forward when you are losing. Some people will respond to this and say "ahh, you just can't let it get to you, etc" and, honestly, those are the people I feel the most for because those are the denial people.

People can say what they want but I have NEVER met a FF player who played more than once/one year that didn't carry around a lot of residual emotional baggage when they are into the games...and lots of times we don't even realize it because we are so consumed by it that we are oblivious to what others see so clearly.

Anyway, off the soap box...That scenario was the moment that put the gears in motion to quit and, admittedly, it has taken two more years AFTER that realization, but that either goes a long way in saying how weak-willed I am or it goes a long way to saying how much pull this game has when you get into it.

But I will be completely open and honestI have felt better the past 3-4 weeks than I have in years. I am looking forward to wrapping this up as it gets closer. And I sincerely appreciate threads like these because it does me a lot of good to see that I am not the only person who thinks of this in this way or questions it.
Fantastic post. Same boat here. Bobby you sound like you have it figured out. Good on you. You hiring? I need to move the #### out of Methcanaba.
I was fortunate enough to grow up with alcoholics. I saw a post earlier where you mentioned having addiction personality traits. I can relate.

I've experienced first hand and witnessed the destructive power of addictions, whether it be booze, drugs or gambling. For a long time I lived in fear that I would fall into that. At various times I have been obsessive compulsive about work, sex, and most recently, community service (seriously.) I would say moderation is a constant battle for me. Every day, in all aspects of my life. I've been relatively successful in keeping those demons at bay but it's very real and ever present.

My FF addiction peaked around 2007. It's not a coincidence my daughter was born fall 2008. I was not at my best for my son's first ten years. You don't get a do over but you do get to chose every day how you will live your life and conduct yourself going forward.

 
Saber,

We've had many conversations in the threads these past few years and I'm sure everyone will miss your input & activity.

I'm with you. This year is exactly my 20th season in FF, too, and I began my own personal "12 step plan" to exit last year as the season wound down and I was realizing I am burned out. As a commish in a few leagues, I had to get the ducks in a row.

Like several have mentioned, the random luck has eclipsed the value of the time investment that used to reward those who studied the game. There comes a point these days where you realize that the amount of time you put into it netted you about $0.14/hour and, in the end, getting that $0.14 payout was really just the result of a coin flip on whether some guy had a better waiver priority or saw the tweet first.

For me, it has never been about the money and so, with no golden carrot to chase, the satisfaction comes down to "Was I the best?" That's hard to justify when you realize your "best" team just lost because some dude fell into Buck Allen, randomly, or you played against the Titans who refuse to play defense at all. This isn't bitter grapes—I am in the playoffs across the board, had top records/points generously across my leagues. I just hate seeing the randomness so blatant.

Anyway, that issue and the fact that the NFL is truly a poor product these days has helped push me out the door. After realizing that I often wait 7 minutes in real time to celebrate a TD or a few minutes to celebrate (or gripe about) a catch as the officials analyze each frame and we listen to the announcers speculate on "did it move?", "did he demonstrate control for 1,2,3 steps?", "did that ball move?", etc, it has become apparent that everything that used to excite me in the moment as a sports fan has been completely neutered. They have destroyed the flow of the game and they have pushed games and events onto so many nights (and watered the quality of the product down terribly) that they have helped me not care as much. It's been easy completely skipping 3 of the last 4 TNF games so it is aiding my "transition".

I'm ready to watch games and care about results; not about "did his WR just catch that?" No more mis-matched loyalties where I have to root for or against players and teams I don't want to.

I knew when I opened this thread I would see 80% of the responses be poor shtick and snarky responses but believe me boys (and girls), you'll ALL come to that point and, quite frankly, if you never did, you probably didn't live long enough and ever come to appreciate the truly important things.

Anything in moderation is good. And maybe a break from a very long tenure of service is what is needed and Saber and I and others will all be back someday but, for myself, I clearly see the product not being good enough to support the desire to watch that much football anymore.
Outstanding post.

I am done as well at the conclusion of this season. I have been on house money for a long time. It's not about the money. I loved FF because I loved the NFL for a long time. But over the last 5 years that love has been lost. And I mean it is really gone. I could care less about watching NFL football for the most part. I actually get far more pleasure watching other major sports (MLB, NHL, NBA), and I can find a lot better things to do on Sundays with my son who has zero interest in the NFL. He rather watch college football on Saturdays. If that's the case....I am going to be a Saturday football guy going forward. NCAA football still is highly entertaining (although games take forever) and you can see the passion oooze through the screen from those kids. 99% of who will never sniff an NFL field.

The game has been shredded, sliced and diced and heavily watered down as Shutout has pointed out so well in his post. The NFL I grew to love between 1980-2000 is dead. Truly dead and buried. And soon (over the next decade) the NFL will go through a major problem with attendance numbers, quality talent and a quality product as youth football is slowly being neutered due to head injuries. I know so many parents pulling their kids from playing tackle football. it won't happen overnight but it will happen.

And then you have basically all the skill gone from FF. With twitter, internet and 5000 experts....it's mostly luck folks. I win plenty. I am in the playoffs pretty much every year in all my dynasty leagues, have won 10 titles over the last 25 years many many second place finishes, third place etc etc. It was always about draft day with redraft and getting together every Sunday to watch games at our local watering hole and go crazy. Those days ended as all of us grew up, got married, had kids and got a life. So I turned to dynasty leagues and was hooked. Love them. But that too is over. Too many weak owners, making god awful decisions and owner turnover is rampant. It's over folks.

The game (FF) jumped the shark a while ago. Everyone and their uncle looks at their phones all day and cheers not for the game itself...but for their WW pick up scoring a TD. Blech. It feels tacky at this point. I guess I am getting too old for this fodder.

I just want to see if I can possibly just enjoy the NFL again for the game itself (which is hard to do right now) If I eliminate all fantasy implications from the equation I think I can just get back to watching football again.

I love this board. I will still hang around in the FFA, but I don't think I will have anything to talk about in the Shark Pool anymore if I pull the plug (which I am pretty much going to do) on FF. Who knows....maybe I keep one redraft league for ####s and giggles...if so I will be around (for those who care). But yeah....the game is just not even close to what it was (both FF and the NFL).
Your resolve to quit petered out by the end of your post. :thumbup:
Every time I try to get out....they pull me back in. LMFAO!!!!

 
It seems like the guys who got into this hobby 10-20 years ago are aging, and considering moving on with their lives. I still enjoy mining for players, building a team, and seeing it do well, but the burden of having to monitor injuries and set fantasy lineups often gets in the way of life. I find myself turning down great opportunities with friends or family just because I need to see if TJ Yeldon will suit up for the game against Atlanta.
I think that's a lot of it. There's a season for everything. Fantasy football is in many ways a young man's game. When I was in college, I used to play a dozen or more leagues a year. Now that I'm a dad, I'm losing my mind if I have more than five. If I had a "real" job, even that would be unbearable.

As an aside, perhaps it's just me getting older, but I'm a huge fan of rules allowing for conditional lineups. Basically, you post "If Yeldon plays, I start him. If not, I start ______." It just allows fantasy football to fit in more easily with everything else you have going on in life. I can go on vacation with my family, or go to a special event at a museum on Sunday morning with my 3-year-old, and I'm not devoting even a second of thought to whether Brian Hoyer cleared the concussion protocol. If he did, great. If he didn't, great. I'm set either way.
What leagues allow for conditional lineups? Any major companies?

I'm not quitting FF, but leaning toward best ball leagues with waiver pickups (Draft Experts Plus leagues in FFPC). Seems like the best of both worlds to me.
I hear MFL has the ability to designate a backup position. I don't know, I just manage it in my league, (on Fleaflicker), by hand. It actually adds pretty minimal commissioner overhead.

 
TV timeouts drove me from my Pats season tickets in 02ish. I pretty much stopped watching any football until Red Zone came on. Now, I watch that for a few minutes here and there if I'm home on a Sunday but its low priority.

I don't watch Superbowls, nor do I care about football outside of my remaining fantasy leagues. They are killing the golden goose imo. The only reason I still even play fantasy is because of friends in the leagues, and I keep winning. I want out though.
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It seems like the guys who got into this hobby 10-20 years ago are aging, and considering moving on with their lives. I still enjoy mining for players, building a team, and seeing it do well, but the burden of having to monitor injuries and set fantasy lineups often gets in the way of life. I find myself turning down great opportunities with friends or family just because I need to see if TJ Yeldon will suit up for the game against Atlanta.
I think it definitely depends on where you are in life. The older you get, the more of a waste of time it feels like. To the young guys, I think you are better off getting out now before you look back at the 15 years you wasted. But if you keep playing, just try to have fun with it and not take it too seriously. If you can't play without taking it to seriously, get out.

This "hobby" has been nothing more than a complete waste of time and a strain on my health and relationships. Yes there some positives about it like the comradery with friends, but the negatives so completely outweigh the positives that it's not worth doing it. I absolutely hate fantasy football now and receive zero joy from it in my 20th year doing it. It no longer enhances my NFL watching experience, it completely ruins it. I waste time talking trades and arguing player value, researching backups, reading injury reports, looking at strength of schedule, 2nd guessing decisions, trying to find the next f-ing arian foster etc. all for NOTHING. All this, when in the end it's nothing more than glorified gambling where luck still outweighs your "skill" and research by a long way.



I'm still in two leagues because it's the only contact I have with about 25 people and I keep getting guilted into staying another year. I'm never happy on sundays. Even when I win, it's more relief than celebration. God forbid you torture yourself by watching each play unfold throughout the day. "Why the #### does Ryan Tannehill have to throw it to Jarvis Landry every other play????" Or better yet, "why didn't I draft Landry over Andre Williams in my rookie draft??? I should have known better!!"



Maybe some of you can handle this #### better than me, but I know way too many people who feel the same way. To them I say, just quit. Just rip it off like a ####ing band aid. Don't be fooled that being in a league will create some kind of great platform for you and your friends to keep in touch. All we do is argue, complain and talk #### about each other anyway. I'd rather never see them again than waste my time doing that. I'm pretty sure if fantasy football is the only thing that makes me contact you, then we are not truly friends anyway.
Wish I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say the bolded part of your post.

It's an interesting point of view when you mention how so many people say they keep leagues together to stay in touch with old friends, groups, etc, because it is true, like you say, that the actual "staying together" is usually nowhere near the picture it is painted out to be.

I am sure there are people out there who have friends with whom they exclusively golf with, work on cars with, cook, hike with, etc, and it is really all the same: you can go months or a year without being able to get together and when you do, it just falls back into place. You don't need "the league" to maintain the bond...use your phone (or meet them for lunch if you are close by). Any group of friends you make and have are going to have a core interest but that one interest shouldn't ever define what makes the group function. Even military buddies or firemen, etc: Yeah, that binding tie is VERY strong and everyone focusses on the "war stories" when they get together at first, but by the end of the night, its just the people that make it go.

 
I'm a huge fan of rules allowing for conditional lineups
I'm pretty sure I'm going to move the one league I'm commissioner for over to best ball. A big part of FF luck is the week to week variance. Going best ball will eliminate all the time spent agonizing over lineup decisions as well. It basically reduces your FF effort to roster management. I consider it a half way step to just quitting FF altogether.

Another thing I've gotten better at is just not watching the games. It really reduces the impact of FF on the rest of your life. You can catch them again during the week via dvr or NFL channel replays if you're looking to scout. But avoiding sitting through the agony of watching the games in real time has really reduced the stress/impact of FF for me.
Of all the aspects of my FF behavior that bother me, this is the most. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU KNOW HOW YOUR TEAM IS PERFORMING IN REAL TIME. Unless you play in a league with open waivers, absolutely nothing will be different if you go off the grid on Sundays. Hell, I'm old enough to remember when there was no real-time scoring, and you had to wait until the next day to find out how your team did.

And yet, it is so hard to not want to know. If I set alerts on my phone, I'm checking every time it buzzes. If I don't, I'm constantly refreshing.

There are two aspects of fantasy football that cause me trouble. The first is the enormous time suck of researching, listening to podcasts, and yes, posting on these forums. But at least I can do all of those on my own (or, as long as I'm being honest, my employer's) time. It's basically just a time-consuming hobby. Even the night-time games aren't too bad, since that would usually just be downtime anyway.

The second, the Sunday distraction, is much worse, because it's frequently on other people's time (my wife, my kids, etc.) So maybe next year I'll try to follow your lead and not worry so much in the moment.

 
Time is our most precious commodity and much of life is about balancing it.

To each their own and I respect anyone who realizes their priorities/balances our out of whack and takes steps to address it. I can also relate to burn out. I started playing FF in 98' and at my peak was playing in 10 plus leagues a year. I now really only play in 2 leagues, one of which I commish. FF is still something I enjoy very much though and I make time for it even with a wife, two kids, a somewhat demanding job, a second job officiating basketball as much as 4-5 nights a week, and coaching my 7 year old's basketball team. Why? Because as I said I enjoy it and it satisfies some of my competitive itch. My family knows that for 16 or so Sundays a year Dad is watching football from 1pm until. I compensate for that by doing other things throughout the week, planning for or sacrificing other days, evenings, mornings to do family activities, chores around the house, whatever. But I feel no guilt for the time I spend watching football. Its a choice I make and I've earned it. And with modern technology and multi-tasking none of us are required to sit at a desk or on a couch and stare at screens all day to play this game effectively.

I can empathize with those who feel burned out by this game or feel the need to take a break. I will say though that I disagree with some of the takes repeatedly offered in this thread.

Some have mentioned that the proliferation and widespread availability of info has taken away the advantage of the more prepared, harder working owner. While this is true to some extent really it has just raised the bar in terms of what it takes to be a good FF player. You may have to dig a little deeper, check multiple info sources, or whatever but the competitive advantages are still there for those who take additional steps to get info. Tim Hightower, who the OP mentioned perhaps in jest, is a good example of that. All of the "experts" and websites where talking about picking up Spiller where many dug a little deeper and could see that Hightower was the play. The Shark Pool is filled with threads and posts that offer additional insight that have helped me and others stay ahead of the curve on info and players that the avg FF player is not getting.

Others have mentioned that the variance is more a factor now and takes away enjoyment from the game. I disagree here as well. FF has always been an incalculable combination of skill and chance. Thats one of the things that draw so many to the game. There has always been and always will be a significant factor of luck and chance involved with this game. You accept that, prepare as best you can anyway, and take the good with the bad as you play the game.

Nothing stays the same. For better or worse FF has grown considerably since many of us started playing it. Again to each their own and if you feel you need to take a break or quit altogether then more power to you. But a lot of this comes off to me as whining about the changes that were inevitable with the growing popularity of this hobby.

 
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No burnout here, I dont play for big money so I guess it lowers the stress level compared to others. I enjoy reading about and watching football, I work during the Thur and Mon night games so maybe that lessens getting too much of a good thing. Its 16 days out of 365 days of the year for me watching something I enjoy.

Play for less money....

 
Good for you Sabertooth. You have to do what is best for you.

I have been thinking about dropping out of my last league for a few years but will continue because it is something I share with some longtime friends. I have been in this league for about 15 years. My brother is the Commish and always talks me into playing. FF is more about the friends than the football these days.

I won the league 7 years ago and finished second two years in a row after that. It was great beating my friends. Now, I know that I have little hope of winning. The entry fee is only $100. I piss away $100 on one dinner. I can go weeks without even watching an NFL game. I never watch an entire game. The NFL has become more business than sport at this point. The games are just not that entertaining.

Instead of dropping FF all together, I have made FF a hobby that does not consume much time. I read up on the NFL and my players for a few minutes each morning. I put my line-ups in and live my life. I spend my free time with my daughter and wife. That is what life is about. Most weeks, I do not even check my score until my daughter is asleep.

This year has truly been trying for many of us due to injuries. I bet lots of people call it quits after this season. Drafting a great team only took you so far this season. I drafted Charles, Forsett, and Hyde. My team went from great to horrible. That is ok. I had fun for a few weeks and even won a few bucks being the high scorer for the week. I will play again next season. I will enjoy draft day. I will enjoy the season-long banter. I will enjoy hanging with my friends again.

 
I know some here have said play for free or play for less money. I know for me with my season long leagues it has never been about money but about fun and competition. In the one league I have stayed in for the last 15 years even when I cut back to one league, I know I have made money over the life of the league but without going back and looking I couldn't begin to say how much because that's not why I played. Thus the money never created stress for me with season long leagues and when I cut back it was because multiple leagues was causing me to lose passion for FF and making it a chore not fun. With just two season long leagues I find it much more fun and if I make a few bucks then that a nice bonus.

DFS is a different animal because honestly if I am not at least breaking even over the coarse of a year I would quit because while its fun its also about money even for a small stakes player like me. Even though like season long if it becomes a unenjoyable chore I would quit.

I also find a few draft only leagues can be a nice enjoyable aside preseason. Because its fun to draft but you don't have to do anything after that.

 
I'm really close to stopping after this year. I'm sure I'll be back by June at the latest though.
I ended up taking on two more leagues this year, due to a new job that had a league, and resurrection of a league I had been in for years in the past. That brought my total to 8 this year. I definitely crossed the threshold. With a second baby being born this fall, I really should have cut two or more out instead of adding two. I could definitely see myself dropping all the way down to just my 2 dynasties, or even less in the future. I agree it's not as fun as it used to be. It's not just FF for me, though. The over-saturation and moreover the state of the game right now are detractors. The officiating drives me crazy. If the Bills are knocked out of playoff contention by mid-season next year, again, I could see myself not watching my first game since about '86 and finding something better to do on Sundays. I've already start skipping a lot of 4:00 games this year. That's never happened before.

/rant

 
Just realize that it really is mostly luck that you can't control, and play with friends you know so you can jab and smack talk, then its fun. The one league I'm in we do a remote auction every year and throw in 3 rounds of golf and rent out a hotel suite or country club conference room, make hundreds of crazy bets for the season do a draft, stay up till 4am trying to make post draft trades and drinking beer. Its a riot. We are all married with kids but has become tradition we do it every year. Plus its a good way to keep in touch with high school/college buddies.

Playing for money with anonymous people just wouldn't be fun to me. Then its just pure gambling, if you have 10 owners that are active and somewhat knowledgeable it basically comes down to pure luck.

 
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Good for you Sabertooth. You have to do what is best for you.

I have been thinking about dropping out of my last league for a few years but will continue because it is something I share with some longtime friends. I have been in this league for about 15 years. My brother is the Commish and always talks me into playing. FF is more about the friends than the football these days.

I won the league 7 years ago and finished second two years in a row after that. It was great beating my friends. Now, I know that I have little hope of winning. The entry fee is only $100. I piss away $100 on one dinner. I can go weeks without even watching an NFL game. I never watch an entire game. The NFL has become more business than sport at this point. The games are just not that entertaining.

Instead of dropping FF all together, I have made FF a hobby that does not consume much time. I read up on the NFL and my players for a few minutes each morning. I put my line-ups in and live my life. I spend my free time with my daughter and wife. That is what life is about. Most weeks, I do not even check my score until my daughter is asleep.

This year has truly been trying for many of us due to injuries. I bet lots of people call it quits after this season. Drafting a great team only took you so far this season. I drafted Charles, Forsett, and Hyde. My team went from great to horrible. That is ok. I had fun for a few weeks and even won a few bucks being the high scorer for the week. I will play again next season. I will enjoy draft day. I will enjoy the season-long banter. I will enjoy hanging with my friends again.
I had a good time at our draft. After repeated attempts to get some banter going on our message boards I just stopped. Our group just seems disinterested, lots of guys wouldn't even respond to trades or what not. No thanks.

 
Just realize that it really is mostly luck that you can't control, and play with friends you know so you can jab and smack talk, then its fun. The one league I'm in we do a remote auction every year and throw in 3 rounds of golf and rent out a hotel suite or country club conference room, make hundreds of crazy bets for the season do a draft, stay up till 4am trying to make post draft trades and drinking beer. Its a riot. We are all married with kids but has become tradition we do it every year. Plus its a good way to keep in touch with high school/college buddies.

Playing for money with anonymous people just wouldn't be fun to me. Then its just pure gambling, if you have 10 owners that are active and somewhat knowledgeable it basically comes down to pure luck.
You are lucky to have such a group. My friends are always crying poor house or too afraid of their wives to do anything like that. I would love it.

 
I'm seriously debating this myself now. I was so angry Sunday and I couldn't figure out why. The Eagles won. My family and I had a good outing to see Santa and yet I was growing irritated with everything the later in the day it got. I kept telling my self it wasn't fantasy but I'm pretty sure it was. I might need to go cold turkey for a fee years for my own sanity.
yea. Hobbies should not stress you out.
Exactly. Hobbies should be fun. If FF stressed me out, I would quit too.

Not that you're seeking it, but my advice? Cut back to 1 league, downsize to tight group of friends... seriously (8-10 teams)... play for peanuts ($20 entry for prizes)... it will be fun again.

Tough to balance FF juggernaut with being a good dad. Scale it back, way back... enjoy both.

 
I'm just going to be done. I don't even want to give one crap about it. Time to move on. Appreciate those saying to scale back, but to be honest, that isn't really very appealing to me.

 
Going to drop my final two leagues after this playoffs. Been fun bantering with you guys. The game just isn't what I started playing 20 years ago. Like most things in life it just isn't fun after a while. Going to focus all this time and money on something productive.

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Hey Saber,

I quit playing FF in 2009 when I finished my contract with the Army. I had a lot of catching up to do with family and friends I had barely seen for years.

This was also the season that Brett Favre became the QB for my favorite team the Vikings. I felt like I was living in a bizaro alternate reality after decades of rooting against him and the division rival Packers team.

I truly enjoyed just watching football and rooting for the Vikings and not caring about much else going on in football. It was a great season for the Vikings that ended up as a loss to the Saints in the championship game.

The Vikings got progressively worse from that point so my interest shifted back to the draft since that was the main thing the Vikings had going for them at this point was high draft picks as well as the wheeler and dealer Rick Spielman.

After a 3 year break from playing FF 2009-2011 my interest became renewed mainly just focusing on the rookie players entering the league. I started playing FF again in 2012 but I only play best ball leagues where there is zero in season management.

I enjoy talking about football and fantasy football with folks here in the SP and I think my perspective has been much more objective than it was before I took the 3 year break. Imagine threads where people are honestly sharing information and observations that are not somehow tied to their FF teams. I kind of felt like I was doing people a favor offering a less biased view on things combined with over 25 years of experience playing FF and following the game.

What I learned from the break is that you can still enjoy football without playing fantasy and it is still enjoyable to talk about football and fantasy even if you are not playing yourself. In some ways it makes talking about it more enjoyable open and honest.

So best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do. In my experience the break was not only good for me personally, it also gave me a fresh perspective about the game of football (which has changed a lot the last 5 years compared to what it once was) and playing best ball only requires to in season management on my part. I can still track the progress of my teams if I want or I can just ignore it until I am curious. Best of both worlds from my perspective and the time that I put into research or discussing football is simply because I enjoy doing it,

I have been playing this silly game since 1986. I get a lot of enjoyment out of the strategy and tactics of football as well as the strategy of constructing FF teams. I don't think I will ever stop enjoying that process. Taking a break when I did helped me to enjoy the game a lot more than I was previously. Maybe a break will do that for you or others as well.

Oh and for the record Peterson won't likely be a sell until 2017 :)

 
Going to drop my final two leagues after this playoffs. Been fun bantering with you guys. The game just isn't what I started playing 20 years ago. Like most things in life it just isn't fun after a while. Going to focus all this time and money on something productive.

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I can relate completely to what Saber is going through.

FF is nothing more than a diversion from the "real world", hell, the word fantasy is in the title. I like the challenge of creating a roster much like I like to create portfolios for clients.

What is killing it for me is those damn Thursday games, which has a ripple effect to setting weekly lineups... which makes conditional lineups more logical. I stopped overthinking the setting of 9 different line ups. The randomness of any given week, especially in the playoffs, makes me question why I spend as much time as I do (I refuse to watch TNF).

Someone up thread even pointed out that when you win, its more of a relief than fun (relief that I won't be pissed?). And that's very true because I expect to win most of the time.

This isn't about money. My financial outlay is probably the cheapest hobby I have. The time is becoming more of a factor. The poor showing in the playoffs starts to gnaw because it's a slightly weighted coin flip every week/year and I just may not be lucky in this regard.

I will say that the league mates matter greatly. Dynasty leagues that have only a half dozen trades a year and dead message boards are pretty useless. I do a couple redrafts and auctions just to mix it up since construction is my favorite part. I drew the line at the Daily leagues. I know my addictive personality well enough to stay clear of the "new" challenge.

But when free agency and the draft happens, i'll be right back in my dynasty leagues. YMMV

 
I can relate completely to what Saber is going through.

FF is nothing more than a diversion from the "real world", hell, the word fantasy is in the title. I like the challenge of creating a roster much like I like to create portfolios for clients.

What is killing it for me is those damn Thursday games, which has a ripple effect to setting weekly lineups... which makes conditional lineups more logical. I stopped overthinking the setting of 9 different line ups. The randomness of any given week, especially in the playoffs, makes me question why I spend as much time as I do (I refuse to watch TNF).

Someone up thread even pointed out that when you win, its more of a relief than fun (relief that I won't be pissed?). And that's very true because I expect to win most of the time.

This isn't about money. My financial outlay is probably the cheapest hobby I have. The time is becoming more of a factor. The poor showing in the playoffs starts to gnaw because it's a slightly weighted coin flip every week/year and I just may not be lucky in this regard.

I will say that the league mates matter greatly. Dynasty leagues that have only a half dozen trades a year and dead message boards are pretty useless. I do a couple redrafts and auctions just to mix it up since construction is my favorite part. I drew the line at the Daily leagues. I know my addictive personality well enough to stay clear of the "new" challenge.

But when free agency and the draft happens, i'll be right back in my dynasty leagues..
Up until a couple months ago, I only liked my 2 dynasty leagues. I've come to hate redraft and especially keeper leagues. That was, until I met daily leagues. There's so much depth to it. Injuries suck there too, but it's an awesome game to play. I'll share everything I've learned with you Dex. The first lesson is free :devil:

 
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I get it, and I quit 3 seasons ago with a great group of buddies and never regretted it once. I spent 10 seasons or so with them, and it was every Sunday setting up 4-5 TVs, sling box, 2 laptops, and kicking my family out of the house on Sunday so I could watch every play and wait for the running back on some craptastic NFL team I care nothing about, to grab his groin so I can be the first one to snatch his no-name back up (we have open waiver, which was the biggest problem) and dance around in my living room ALONE because I beat one of the other 11 addicts doing the same thing. If you don't do the whole FFB obsession in that league, then you can't compete.. After 10 or so seasons of a great group of friends, I walked away from it and joined my wife, kids and friends in trips, hunting, fishing, poker, and whatever we wanted to do. Best feeling ever, as I still stayed in touch with the league thru text and got to slam the guy who drafted Fat Eddy and brag on the guy who picked up some obsolete kicker who just crushed his Super Bowl favoring opponent. All without having to give two ####s about the weather in Jacksonville or whose the starting middle linebacker on Detroit. Plus now I listen to ONE game on the radio on Sunday on my way to fish for reds on the coast or shoot ducks with my son.

After a season off 3 years ago, a league mate quit a day or so before the draft. I hadn't read jack about football in 18 months but they needed a fill in. I tried to play it serious but just couldn't. Didn't care as much when I won; didn't care as much when I lost. 5 days after the draft, I wished I'd never came back. I half assed it all year and quit again as soon as I was eliminated. Spent last year out of it again, and never missed it once. Too much work for someone who had other enjoyments in life. Much rather be at my sons football games, in a deer blind, or on the sideline of a college game then some fake football obsession.

 
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What is killing it for me is those damn Thursday games, which has a ripple effect to setting weekly lineups... which makes conditional lineups more logical. I stopped overthinking the setting of 9 different line ups. The randomness of any given week, especially in the playoffs, makes me question why I spend as much time as I do (I refuse to watch TNF).
Amen to that. Maybe if I really enjoyed watching lousy NFL games and didn't play FF the Thursday games would work for me? They do cast a long shadow over a players ability to fully recover from the previous Sunday and with so many guys carrying the "Q" through at least half the work week the TNF games are a disaster.

 
Been playing since the late 90s. Been in only one league since about 2007. Having just as much fun with my one league (dynasty) as ever. Fortunate enough to be in a great league.

 
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Been playing since the late 90s. Been in only one league since about 2007. Having just as much fun with my one league (dynasty) as ever. Fortunate enough to be in a great league.
This is key. I was able to cut down to a couple of leagues because they're all with friends and they know what they're doing for the most part. But I will be doing only one league next season. Just too tiring to keep up with waivers especially with the Thursday games

Some have mentioned that the proliferation and widespread availability of info has taken away the advantage of the more prepared, harder working owner. While this is true to some extent really it has just raised the bar in terms of what it takes to be a good FF player.
Actually I think my problem is there is TOO much information and honestly it's a chore now to sift through every website and blog.

 
I've read most of this and have a few suggestions to those who feel its become too much:

Don't be a commish

Play in only the friends and family leagues

Consider not watching football as much.

Consider posting on boards less

 
There's nothing wrong with taking a year off and seeing whether you miss it. You may not. If you do, you can get back into it the following year.

I would still play a best-ball league or two instead of going cold turkey, but that's just me.

 
I quit FF cold turkey 11 or 12 years ago and didn't miss it at all. It was great watching the games and thinking only about the strategy from an NFL POV instead of hoping for my players to get the ball or whatever. One of my buddies asked me to join his league about 5 years ago and I turned him down 2 years in a row. Finally I relented and joined 3 years ago and have come in 2nd, 1st and I'm still alive this year as well (LOOK AT ME!). I also like the weekly process of doing the research for DFS football.

Anyway, I went cold turkey and loved the break from FF and thought I would never be back - i would suggest cold turkey and see how it goes. You can always come back if you really miss it, but based on my experience you will enjoy the time off no matter how long it lasts.

 
i quit playing a few years ago. makes this place a whole lot more fun and entertaining if you don't play and take this gambling game of skill so serious.

 
I guess I don't see what's so stressful. I play in 7 leagues and do fine putting in a few hours a week. If someone beats me because they researched the WW better, whatever. It still gives me something to talk to friends about.

People saying the game is worse now...yes. But to me that's more reason to have FF reasons to care. Just watching NFL games other than my own team is a pretty lame product.

 
Dear Fantasy Football,

From the moment
I started ignoring my kids recitals
And trolling imaginary
Would-be friends
On the interenet
I knew one thing was real:

I fell in love with you.

A love so deep I gave you my all —
From my mind & body
To my spirit & soul.

As a fifty-six-year-old man
Deeply in love with you
I never saw the end of the tunnel.
I only saw myself
Running out of one.

And so I read..
I read up and down every roto site
After every message board for you.
You asked for my PayPal payment
I gave you my heart
Because it came with so much more.

I played through the bad luck and hurt
Not because challenge called me
But because YOU called me.
I did everything for YOU
Because that’s what you do
When someone makes you feel as
Alive as you’ve made me feel.

You gave a fifty-six-year-old man his title
And I’ll always love you for it.
But I can’t love you obsessively for much longer.
This season is all I have left to give.
My heart can take the pounding
My mind can handle the grind
But my body knows it’s time to say goodbye.

And that’s OK.
I’m ready to let you go.
I want you to know now
So we both can savor every moment we have left together.
The good and the bad.
We have given each other
All that we have.

And we both know, no matter what I do next
I’ll always be that man
With the riled up children
Garbage left on the side of the road
:05 seconds on the clock
Please do not throw it
5 … 4 … 3 … 2 … 1

Love you always,
Sabre

 
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