Belichick Quotes on "Running up the Score" (1 Viewer)

[Phlash]

They are lucky they don't play the Titans this year - we all know Mr Haynesworth wouldn't stand for anyone running up the score.

You know, it's not a good thing to find yourself on the same side of things as Albert Haynesworth.

I'm just stating the obvious. Think about it? When Belichek calls that "fake spike" from the sidlines and Brady looks over the O-line and sees Mr Haynesworth fuming and about to go ape **** - I think he audibles to a run play very quickly.

And if Haynesworth tackles him and tries to cheap shot him (like the awful cheap shot on Peyton this week?). Brady just gets up like Peyton, Haynesworth gets suspended for 3 games. Disadvantage - Titans.

 

[HellToupee]

I just don't understand the vitriol about the Pats running up the score. Everyone is paid an enormous amount of money in this league to field competitive teams. They all have the same salary cap and contractual rules to play by. They all have the right to call plays and live with the consequences. Why shouldn't the Pats continue to play this way if no one can stop them? Why shouldn't they want to smash NFL records on their way to a Super Bowl run? Why is it wrong that Belichick wants to see Brady break the single season passing marks? Love or hate Belichick, he is absolutely right in what he says. When an opponent comes over and says, "OK Bill, you got us this time, let's call it a game" then Bill can tell the Pats to start taking a knee. For a sport that's as popular as it is because of the perceived toughness of those involved, I'm shocked at how many whiny fans have a problem with what the Pats are doing. I just don't get it

and as a paying fan I would be pissed to no end seeing Heath Evans run into the gut 15 times in the second half. I'm paying to be entertained not to see 2 team mutually lay down.

 

[KoolKat]

This is the Big Boy league. If you don't want them to score, then stop them from scoring.

While I agree with this I also think that once you are up by 40+ in the 4th quarter it doesn't hurt to show a little class and run the clock out.

Its like baseball. You don't steal bases with a 10 run lead...and so on. Its class...its respect...its something BB clearly does not care about.

Going for it on fourth was unnecessary.

 

[parrot]

When did the QB sneak become the most dangerous play in football?

 

[HellToupee]

This is the Big Boy league. If you don't want them to score, then stop them from scoring.

While I agree with this I also think that once you are up by 40+ in the 4th quarter it doesn't hurt to show a little class and run the clock out.

Its like baseball. You don't steal bases with a 10 run lead...and so on. Its class...its respect...its something BB clearly does not care about.

Going for it on fourth was unnecessary.

and kicking a FG is?

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

When did the QB sneak become the most dangerous play in football?

Who calls a QB sneak when the game is well out of hand?Only a team trying to embarass the other.

 

[HellToupee]

perhaps the NFL should adopt Pop Warners 30 point scoring spread rule maybe that would make all the ham & eggers happy

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

All I know is PAT fans shouldn't be surprised if Brady is injured before the end of the season.

 

[KoolKat]

This is the Big Boy league. If you don't want them to score, then stop them from scoring.

While I agree with this I also think that once you are up by 40+ in the 4th quarter it doesn't hurt to show a little class and run the clock out.

Its like baseball. You don't steal bases with a 10 run lead...and so on. Its class...its respect...its something BB clearly does not care about.

Going for it on fourth was unnecessary.

and kicking a FG is?

I would say they should try to pin the Skins deep. When you're at the 35 and 42 yard lines, those are spots where many coaches wouldn't even think about a FG or going for it in a tight game, much less if you're up 30+. I have never seen any other coach do this ever. If Dungy wasn't 10X classier than Belichek, Manning would have had 60+ TDs, like Brady will get.

 

[Jason Wood]

I just don't understand the vitriol about the Pats running up the score. Everyone is paid an enormous amount of money in this league to field competitive teams. They all have the same salary cap and contractual rules to play by. They all have the right to call plays and live with the consequences. Why shouldn't the Pats continue to play this way if no one can stop them? Why shouldn't they want to smash NFL records on their way to a Super Bowl run? Why is it wrong that Belichick wants to see Brady break the single season passing marks? Love or hate Belichick, he is absolutely right in what he says. When an opponent comes over and says, "OK Bill, you got us this time, let's call it a game" then Bill can tell the Pats to start taking a knee. For a sport that's as popular as it is because of the perceived toughness of those involved, I'm shocked at how many whiny fans have a problem with what the Pats are doing. I just don't get it

There is an unspoken rule in the game of hockey (which is also a contact sport) that if you run up the score - you better watch your back.You'll see it numerous times if 1 NHL team is demolishing the other. The coach will send out his goons and all he** will break out.It sends a message "You may have beaten us but you are not going to embarass us".

Can we please not compare the fastest growing and most profitable sport in the U.S. with a dying archaic sport that regularly draws fewer viewers than Trading Spaces and The Hills?

 

[mad sweeney]

They are lucky they don't play the Titans this year - we all know Mr Haynesworth wouldn't stand for anyone running up the score.

You know, it's not a good thing to find yourself on the same side of things as Albert Haynesworth.

I'm just stating the obvious. Think about it? When Belichek calls that "fake spike" from the sidlines and Brady looks over the O-line and sees Mr Haynesworth fuming and about to go ape **** - I think he audibles to a run play very quickly.

Another thing is if you're going to keep running fake spikes, then the DL is going to crash across the line. Usually a D doesn't go full speed on a spike, which is why the fake works. But now when Brady goes up to actually spike the ball, instead of a token pass rush, DL are going to come blazing across and Brady is only taking one step back to spike the ball. That's awful close to 300+ pound guys who are coming full bore at you. All it takes is one time for the OL to miss or trip or get overrun. If I was a DC I'd tell my team when the Pats line up for a spike that everyone but the corners and safeties line up over the middle and blitz hard, like it's any other pass play, until the whistle blows. There's gonna be 3-4 guys blowing through or over the line. Eventually all these times when "normally" teams would take their foot off the gas are going to bite the Pats in the butt. If they want to go full out on oevery play at all times of the game, then there's no reason for the D to take it easy on a spike and no reason not to send 8 in the 4th quarter. It's a fine line between "greatest team of all time" and "killed by their own arrogance" with a late game injury. And it doesn't necessarily have to be to Brady or Moss. When they go to spike and 3 guys crash over the center it's a good way for a center or guard to get a knee rolled on. Spikes are supposed to be "easy", but now no D is going to let up on them and if one of those OL gets hurt it's just as damaging as if Brady or Moss get hurt.

 

[PatsWillWin]

All I know is PAT fans shouldn't be surprised if Brady is injured before the end of the season.

really tho - how many times are you going to say this?

 

[dudaman]

All I know is PAT fans shouldn't be surprised if Brady is injured before the end of the season.

Well, that being the case, who is going to intentionally hurt Brady and risk a very long unpaid suspension? And lose a half season's worth of stats, thus making their marketability less? And developing a rep as a dirty player, potentially putting a bullseye on their back?If there are goons out there like that, go for it....it's your life.

 

[wiffle_3]

It will certainly be interesting to see the responses when NOT IF Brady gets absolutely hammered by a questionable late hit.

 

[PatsWillWin]

It will certainly be interesting to see the responses when NOT IF Brady gets absolutely hammered by a questionable late hit.

A 15 yard penalty.

 

[Sleeper 43]

Everyone's giving the "what else are they supposed to do speech" but this is new to everyone.

NFL teams up and til Bill haven't been running up the score like this.

Guys like Gibbs aren't going to cry like babies about it, but at the same time there thinking "O ok so this is how your going to play going forward".

After this week I'd say most coaches know NE will not show respect like ALL the other teams have done for a years now, when the games well in hand.

Its funny hearing the NE fan saying "what else were we supposed to do" and "there supposed to score points", you guys are grown men and know damn well other teams don't carry them-selves like this.

If the Colts win this week and Dungy HAS the opportunity to run it up, he wouldn't, and guess what that would be the norm, how its been for years and years.

So don't go around calling people cry babies when your team is the ONE team who's handling things differently.

 

[PatsWillWin]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

 

[Bodysnatcher]

I completely agree with him on this. The offense isn't supposed to purposely NOT score, or move the ball. That is ######ed.

 

[scoobygang]

It will certainly be interesting to see the responses when NOT IF Brady gets absolutely hammered by a questionable late hit.

A 15 yard penalty.

Not a terribly effective disincentive when you're already down by 40.

 

[dudaman]

If the Colts win this week and Dungy HAS the opportunity to run it up, he wouldn't, and guess what that would be the norm, how its been for years and years.

If Dungy doesn't put as many points on the board as he can (whether you consider it running it up or not), then he is risking it. This year's Pats can put up 28 in one quarter.

 

[Jason Wood]

Everyone's giving the "what else are they supposed to do speech" but this is new to everyone.NFL teams up and til Bill haven't been running up the score like this. Guys like Gibbs aren't going to cry like babies about it, but at the same time there thinking "O ok so this is how your going to play going forward".After this week I'd say most coaches know NE will not show respect like ALL the other teams have done for a years now, when the games well in hand.Its funny hearing the NE fan saying "what else were we supposed to do" and "there supposed to score points", you guys are grown men and know damn well other teams don't carry them-selves like this.If the Colts win this week and Dungy HAS the opportunity to run it up, he wouldn't, and guess what that would be the norm, how its been for years and years. So don't go around calling people cry babies when your team is the ONE team who's handling things differently.

And I'm sure, at some point in the not too distant future, opposing coaches will relish in the opportunity to run up the score on Belichick. And you know what? A) He'll have it coming to him and B ) I bet he won't say a word about it b/c he knows that's par for the course.

 

[Akkum]

Everyone's giving the "what else are they supposed to do speech" but this is new to everyone.NFL teams up and til Bill haven't been running up the score like this. Guys like Gibbs aren't going to cry like babies about it, but at the same time there thinking "O ok so this is how your going to play going forward".After this week I'd say most coaches know NE will not show respect like ALL the other teams have done for a years now, when the games well in hand.Its funny hearing the NE fan saying "what else were we supposed to do" and "there supposed to score points", you guys are grown men and know damn well other teams don't carry them-selves like this.If the Colts win this week and Dungy HAS the opportunity to run it up, he wouldn't, and guess what that would be the norm, how its been for years and years. So don't go around calling people cry babies when your team is the ONE team who's handling things differently.

Is scoring still used in any step to determine playoff seeding?

 

[Sleeper 43]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious there's no room for controversy like other did they or didn't they cases.

 

[wiffle_3]

BB is running up scores, embarrassing 300+ lb defensive players, coaches and their owners by pulling these antics because he is F^%$ed off about the penalty by Goodall..., who is basically employed by the 31 other teams in the NFL. He has got his panties in a twist and is getting "his revenge"... I mean how dare "THEY" fine ME!........

BB is saying *&*^ you to the 31 other team owners...., 31 billionaires. Good luck with that Belli.

 

[HellToupee]

I just don't understand the vitriol about the Pats running up the score. Everyone is paid an enormous amount of money in this league to field competitive teams. They all have the same salary cap and contractual rules to play by. They all have the right to call plays and live with the consequences. Why shouldn't the Pats continue to play this way if no one can stop them? Why shouldn't they want to smash NFL records on their way to a Super Bowl run? Why is it wrong that Belichick wants to see Brady break the single season passing marks?

Love or hate Belichick, he is absolutely right in what he says. When an opponent comes over and says, "OK Bill, you got us this time, let's call it a game" then Bill can tell the Pats to start taking a knee.

For a sport that's as popular as it is because of the perceived toughness of those involved, I'm shocked at how many whiny fans have a problem with what the Pats are doing. I just don't get it

There is an unspoken rule in the game of hockey (which is also a contact sport) that if you run up the score - you better watch your back.You'll see it numerous times if 1 NHL team is demolishing the other. The coach will send out his goons and all he** will break out.

It sends a message "You may have beaten us but you are not going to embarass us".

I've never once witnessed a team stop shooting and trying to score in the NHL when the game gets out of hand. And further more no team has goons ,many do not even have 1 enforcer let alone multiple. Most teams have a player who can drop the gloves but still play . The are no more Dave Semenko's around in the NHL circa 2007

 

[KoolKat]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.lol.

In all my years of watching football I have never seen this done, even when the Rams were scoring 60+ in '99 they never went for it on fourth while up 30+. It is an unwritten rule. Even if they were at the 32 yard line, I would expect most coaches would take a delay of game and try and pin the other team deep while up by that much. Many of you can act like this is something that has always gone on or was unavoidable, but it never has happened, ever.

 

[PatsWillWin]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious there's no room for controversy like other did they or didn't they cases.

Oh so it's not that they're the first team in NFL history to run up the score, they're the first ones to blatantly run up the score.When does it go form just regular running up the score and become blatantly running up the score?

 

[HellToupee]

BB is running up scores, embarrassing 300+ lb defensive players, coaches and their owners by pulling these antics because he is F^%$ed off about the penalty by Goodall..., who is basically employed by the 31 other teams in the NFL. He has got his panties in a twist and is getting "his revenge"... I mean how dare "THEY" fine ME!........ BB is saying *&*^ you to the 31 other team owners...., 31 billionaires. Good luck with that Belli.

if he quit after the season you don't think at least 25-28 teams wouldn't want to hire him pronto?

 

[PatsWillWin]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

In all my years of watching football I have never seen this done, even when the Rams were scoring 60+ in '99 they never went for it on fourth while up 30+. It is an unwritten rule. Even if they were at the 32 yard line, I would expect most coaches would take a delay of game and try and pin the other team deep while up by that much. Many of you can act like this is something that has always gone on or was unavoidable, but it never has happened, ever.

Could you link me to your research?I'd like to see when it's okay for a team to score 60+ points to keep scoring and when it's not.

 

[PatsWillWin]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious that there's no room for debate like other did they or didn't they cases.#And before you start LOL'ing all over, please provide your obvious examples.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.

But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I guess that's why Brady got two rushing TD's.

 

[Sleeper 43]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious there's no room for controversy like other did they or didn't they cases.

Oh so it's not that they're the first team in NFL history to run up the score, they're the first ones to blatantly run up the score.When does it go form just regular running up the score and become blatantly running up the score?

How about when there no room for debate? When every commentator on TV shake there head?

 

[HellToupee]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.lol.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I think BB wants Brady to get the TD record but I happen to think his priority is the win the SB

 

[Sleeper 43]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious that there's no room for debate like other did they or didn't they cases.#And before you start LOL'ing all over, please provide your obvious examples.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.

But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I guess that's why Brady got two rushing TD's.

Yeah Bills got alot of control over that, LOL , one of his runs was spur of the moment.

 

[PatsWillWin]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious there's no room for controversy like other did they or didn't they cases.

Oh so it's not that they're the first team in NFL history to run up the score, they're the first ones to blatantly run up the score.When does it go form just regular running up the score and become blatantly running up the score?

How about when there no room for debate? When every commentator on TV shake there head?

LOL - so you went back during the Rams' big season and looked at how many TV commentators shook "there" heads?

 

[wiffle_3]

I thought I'd never see the day, when Boston fans started behaving like Yankee fans.

 

[PatsWillWin]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious that there's no room for debate like other did they or didn't they cases.#And before you start LOL'ing all over, please provide your obvious examples.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.

But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I guess that's why Brady got two rushing TD's.

Yeah Bills got alot of control over that, LOL , one of his runs was spur of the moment.

And the other was a called QB sneak. Did Bill have control over that? Or did he decide he wasn't interested in getting Brady the record on that play?

 

[parrot]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious that there's no room for debate like other did they or didn't they cases.#And before you start LOL'ing all over, please provide your obvious examples.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.

But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I guess that's why Brady got two rushing TD's.

Yeah Bills got alot of control over that, LOL , one of his runs was spur of the moment.

And the other was a called QB sneak. Did Bill have control over that? Or did he decide he wasn't interested in getting Brady the record on that play?

He doesn't want to make it obvious.

 

[Sleeper 43]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious that there's no room for debate like other did they or didn't they cases.#And before you start LOL'ing all over, please provide your obvious examples.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.

But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I guess that's why Brady got two rushing TD's.

Yeah Bills got alot of control over that, LOL , one of his runs was spur of the moment.

And the other was a called QB sneak. Did Bill have control over that? Or did he decide he wasn't interested in getting Brady the record on that play?

And .... you still cant address my original post.

 

[dudaman]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

In all my years of watching football I have never seen this done, even when the Rams were scoring 60+ in '99 they never went for it on fourth while up 30+. It is an unwritten rule.

AHA! Here's where Polian jumps in and says "it's not fair commish, the Pats are beating us senseless - there should be fines for wins over 35 points and excessive 4th down conversions".

 

[PatsWillWin]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious that there's no room for debate like other did they or didn't they cases.#And before you start LOL'ing all over, please provide your obvious examples.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.

But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I guess that's why Brady got two rushing TD's.

Yeah Bills got alot of control over that, LOL , one of his runs was spur of the moment.

And the other was a called QB sneak. Did Bill have control over that? Or did he decide he wasn't interested in getting Brady the record on that play?

And .... you still cant address my original post.

I did address it. I'm still waiting the details of your TV-commentator-shaking-head research.

 

[Jason Wood]

BB is running up scores, embarrassing 300+ lb defensive players, coaches and their owners by pulling these antics because he is F^%$ed off about the penalty by Goodall..., who is basically employed by the 31 other teams in the NFL. He has got his panties in a twist and is getting "his revenge"... I mean how dare "THEY" fine ME!........ BB is saying *&*^ you to the 31 other team owners...., 31 billionaires. Good luck with that Belli.

I think there is more than a little truth to this notion. Belichick has been eviscerated by the media and opposing fans this year b/c of the videogate thing. While it was admittedly a minority viewpoint, more than a few people tried to make the case that the Pats weren't THAT good over the last few years and WHO KNEW if things like videogate contributed to their winning.How many times did people bring up the slim margin of victory the Pats enjoyed in their Super Bowls? I heard 100s of Eagles fans make that case (stupidly) after videogate. I heard similar debates on NY radio and in magazines and forums across the land. So it's actually somewhat poetic in my eyes; the Patriots are fielding their most dominant team and absolutely taking everyone behind the woodshed as a way of making the point that they didn't win those Super Bowls because they cheated.

 

[= Ice Man =]

Cowboys homer here.....

IMO, if you can't stop a team from scoring, it's your own fault. My college team - Texas - has a serious problem w/ turning into 2nd half pansies when they have a lead b/c they don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. Problem is - and this exists at all levels of football - when the backups finally get into the game, they absolutely don't want to be told to take their foot off the gas. Nobody wants to be on the take a knee team!!! Coaches owe their backups an opportunity to do what they've been coached to do.

 

[Jason Wood]

As a fan, don't you want your team to have the mindset that no lead is safe? I've seen WAY too many Eagles games where the team loses late in the 4th quarter because of prevent defense and conservative play-calling. And I know I'm not alone in thinking that of my team.

As a player, wouldn't you want a coach that lets you impose your will from start to finish? Wouldn't you relish the idea that you have a chance of being remembered as one of THE best teams in league history?

Is there anyone associated with the Patriots that should feel wronged by what's happening? And if not, would anyone really not want their own team being as dominant?

 

[Sleeper 43]

Cowboys homer here.....IMO, if you can't stop a team from scoring, it's your own fault. My college team - Texas - has a serious problem w/ turning into 2nd half pansies when they have a lead b/c they don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. Problem is - and this exists at all levels of football - when the backups finally get into the game, they absolutely don't want to be told to take their foot off the gas. Nobody wants to be on the take a knee team!!! Coaches owe their backups an opportunity to do what they've been coached to do.

This is fine with me, but its not the way the NFL coaches have handled things historically, so when a coach goes against the grain he is either going to change the way everyone coaches their teams with a lead or he is going to be singled out as a team whom you can also run the score up on because they'll do it to you.

 

[Sleeper 43]

lol - the Patriots are the first team to ever run up the score in the NFL.

lol.

blatantly YES, its so obvious that there's no room for debate like other did they or didn't they cases.#And before you start LOL'ing all over, please provide your obvious examples.

I'm used to this: I was getting laughed at last week when I was saying Bill wants the TD record for Brady as a priority.

But now people don't think its so far fetched.

I guess that's why Brady got two rushing TD's.

Yeah Bills got alot of control over that, LOL , one of his runs was spur of the moment.

And the other was a called QB sneak. Did Bill have control over that? Or did he decide he wasn't interested in getting Brady the record on that play?

And .... you still cant address my original post.

I did address it. I'm still waiting the details of your TV-commentator-shaking-head research.

NFL gameday - Steve Marriuci for starters , I'll try and remember the other one I saw mention something about it.

 

[Sleeper 43]

As a fan, don't you want your team to have the mindset that no lead is safe? I've seen WAY too many Eagles games where the team loses late in the 4th quarter because of prevent defense and conservative play-calling. And I know I'm not alone in thinking that of my team. As a player, wouldn't you want a coach that lets you impose your will from start to finish? Wouldn't you relish the idea that you have a chance of being remembered as one of THE best teams in league history?Is there anyone associated with the Patriots that should feel wronged by what's happening? And if not, would anyone really not want their own team being as dominant?

Sure all this sounds good BUT the fact remains EVERYONE else has played by different morals for a long-time now.Then Pats fan act like no-one has a reason to be surprised they're handling things like this.

 

[Loopdog]

what a bunch of crybabies. I love it. I'm a Dallas fan and I still think its great. I hope they put up 100 one week. I dont even own any Patriots on my teams besides Maroney and he hasn't even scored, and I STILL love it. "They have no class" Waaaaaah. Why dont the Redskins players take a ride in the waaambulance if their ego's are so hurt. My question is will we see the Pats favored by 20 next time they play the Jets? Has there even been a line over 20 in the NFL?

 

[Sleeper 43]

I'm I living in the twilight zone here or is it not common ground for teams every weekend to "run out the clock" ?

 

[PatsWillWin]

what a bunch of crybabies. I love it. I'm a Dallas fan and I still think its great. I hope they put up 100 one week. I dont even own any Patriots on my teams besides Maroney and he hasn't even scored, and I STILL love it. "They have no class" Waaaaaah. Why dont the Redskins players take a ride in the waaambulance if their ego's are so hurt. My question is will we see the Pats favored by 20 next time they play the Jets? Has there even been a line over 20 in the NFL?

To their credit, I'm not aware of any Redskins players complaining about the score. Gibbs came right out and said he had no problem with it.Let's not do the Redskins the injustice of bunching them up with a bunch of whiners crying on the Redskins' "behalf."

 

[Jason Wood]

As a fan, don't you want your team to have the mindset that no lead is safe? I've seen WAY too many Eagles games where the team loses late in the 4th quarter because of prevent defense and conservative play-calling. And I know I'm not alone in thinking that of my team. As a player, wouldn't you want a coach that lets you impose your will from start to finish? Wouldn't you relish the idea that you have a chance of being remembered as one of THE best teams in league history?Is there anyone associated with the Patriots that should feel wronged by what's happening? And if not, would anyone really not want their own team being as dominant?

Sure all this sounds good BUT the fact remains EVERYONE else has played by different morals for a long-time now.Then Pats fan act like no-one has a reason to be surprised they're handling things like this.

The forward pass was considered anathema at one point in league history; times change.