Belichick wins NFL coach of year (1 Viewer)

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)

Todd Haley over Bill Belichick for coach of the year.......really?This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for the Patriots. They traded Randy Moss early on in the season which looked like it would limit their vertical passing game and they ended up 14-2.This was a no brainer, winning 2 awards already shouldn't have anything to do with it either. You're either worthy for this year or you're not and Coach Belichick is definately worthy of it.If the Patriots don't lose to the Jets, do you make this thread after he won the award?

 

[onlyseventeenpoints?]

He deserved it. The pats had a great season and he did a bell of a job. But let's stop calling every failed superbowl run by BB a rebuilding season please. It wasn't a rebuilding season. It wasn't last year or the year before. People that say that sound pretty clueless.

 

[JohnnyU]

If there ever was an award that doesn't mean anything in terms of job security "Coach of the Year" is it. Not that that applies to Bill.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

He had the best record.

.... with the youngest defense in the league.

 

[DropKick]

This is the thought process that ruins awards. It should go to the best performance across the field for that year, not in comparison to the year or years before.

I was under the impression the award was supposed to go to the coach that did the best job which might not always translate to the best winning record. If that is the case then why bother voting? Just give it to the guy with the best W-L record and if there is a tie then use some tiebreaker like winning % of opposing teams.

I think your allegiance is bleeding through here.BB went 14-2 with a very young team - they were projected in the 10-6 range and expected to be second or even third within their own division. They finished with the #1 seed and the best record in the league - well above expectations. Morris, who I believe is a very respectable second, had a 7 game "improvement" but that is a little easier when you're starting point is 3 wins.

 

[Bri]

I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)

Todd Haley over Bill Belichick for coach of the year.......really?

And who were the significant hires of the Chiefs staff to stir up this turnaround?

 

[DropKick]

I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)

With 15 players on IR, I think McCarthy deserved it. This unit has been hodge-podge all season. And he got it together when it mattered.

You may very well be right. And when the season is over, McCarthy may have the award that really matters. However, like the baseball MVP, I think they do this one on the regular season.

 

[dharmapunk]

Raheem got jobbed!

 

[Reaper]

If there ever was an award that doesn't mean anything in terms of job security "Coach of the Year" is it.

Didn't Marvin Lewis win this thing? He still has a job.

 

[Barry Foster]

Here's how I would vote

1 Bill Bellicheck - 14-2 with a team that was supposed to finish 2nd to the Jets.

2 Todd Haley - Won the division with a team that wasn't supposed to be in the playoffs.

3 Raheem Morris - great season for them, some years they would have made the playoffs. One thing about TB, though, they played a pretty weak schedule overall, I wonder if this factored into the votes at all? (Or maybe, just because they got unlucky and didn't get in the playoffs?)

others?

Some people might argue Lovie, but I think TB and KC "on paper" were worse than the Bears at the beginning of the year.

Spags? (maybe not after his horrible playcalling during week 17 vs Sea. Couldn't believe how they didn't run Stephen Jackson more....)

What's everyone else's top 3?

 

[Godsbrother]

This is the thought process that ruins awards. It should go to the best performance across the field for that year, not in comparison to the year or years before.

I was under the impression the award was supposed to go to the coach that did the best job which might not always translate to the best winning record. If that is the case then why bother voting? Just give it to the guy with the best W-L record and if there is a tie then use some tiebreaker like winning % of opposing teams.

I think your allegiance is bleeding through here.BB went 14-2 with a very young team - they were projected in the 10-6 range and expected to be second or even third within their own division. They finished with the #1 seed and the best record in the league - well above expectations. Morris, who I believe is a very respectable second, had a 7 game "improvement" but that is a little easier when you're starting point is 3 wins.

I didn't say that Belichick wasn't worthy just that I was a little surprised that someone else didn't get the award. Belichick is a HoF coach with a HoF QB and was projected to have a double digit winning season and compete for the division title. Taking a team from 3 or 4 wins to 10 wins is pretty impressive IMO and I don't think either would have been a bad choice for coach of the year.

 

[Bri]

I didn't say that Belichick wasn't worthy just that I was a little surprised that someone else didn't get the award. Belichick is a HoF coach with a HoF QB and was projected to have a double digit winning season and compete for the division title. Taking a team from 3 or 4 wins to 10 wins is pretty impressive IMO and I don't think either would have been a bad choice for coach of the year.

Earlier someone seemed to imply BB was almost ineligible due to his previous wins. That's too extreme. I do think there's expectations with him and maybe I'm wrong but I think that's what GB is getting at.And what I mentioned earlier-if you're a voter and you're down to BB and Haley in your mind, how do you not notice Weis and Romeo? The Chiefs suddenly won and BB's boys were the OC and DC. For me, that would almost make me lean more toward BB as he's doing it without those two.Two coordinators from a former team is somewhat odd. For whatever reason, one I could brush off and give all the credit to the coach. Two makes me raise an eyebrow. Weis is off to Florida, right? So if Haley does well again next year and is up for this, I think it'll seem more well deserved. Also, I have no prob with him running Thomas Jones but many people here do. I don't think there can be something so fundamentally simple that so many question about a coach of the year. I do remember Bowe stinking and Haley standing up for him and Bowe did turn it around. (What was that five six games?) So it wasn't the Jones thing for me, but I was thinking figure out how to get your stud WR the ball for 5-6 games. I do have one more issue with Haley-I don't think he (nor do I) has a clue how to use Dexter. I think that guy is one of the most exciting players in the NFL and commands to be on the field. I don't know how, but if I'm watching a game wondering why a star rookie isn't getting the ball enough I'm not voting for his coach as coach of the year. I never said above that Haley didn't do a fantastic job. He did. I sure didn't expect the Chiefs to do well so he greatly surpassed my expectations.

 

[The Kuhn]

Until the late collapse, I figured Andy Reid and his handling of the McNabb-Kolb-Vick situation was going to put him in the running.

 

[Chase Stuart]

This is the thought process that ruins awards. It should go to the best performance across the field for that year, not in comparison to the year or years before.

I was under the impression the award was supposed to go to the coach that did the best job which might not always translate to the best winning record. If that is the case then why bother voting? Just give it to the guy with the best W-L record and if there is a tie then use some tiebreaker like winning % of opposing teams.

I think your allegiance is bleeding through here.BB went 14-2 with a very young team - they were projected in the 10-6 range and expected to be second or even third within their own division. They finished with the #1 seed and the best record in the league - well above expectations. Morris, who I believe is a very respectable second, had a 7 game "improvement" but that is a little easier when you're starting point is 3 wins.

I didn't say that Belichick wasn't worthy just that I was a little surprised that someone else didn't get the award. Belichick is a HoF coach with a HoF QB and was projected to have a double digit winning season and compete for the division title. Taking a team from 3 or 4 wins to 10 wins is pretty impressive IMO and I don't think either would have been a bad choice for coach of the year.

One would think being a HOF coach would make you more likely to be the coach of the year, not less likely. Peyton Manning is HOF QB, while Mark Sanchez is not, so I sort of think Manning has a better chance to be NFL MVP next year.

 

[Godsbrother]

One would think being a HOF coach would make you more likely to be the coach of the year, not less likely. Peyton Manning is HOF QB, while Mark Sanchez is not, so I sort of think Manning has a better chance to be NFL MVP next year.

I guess though some voters may feel the guy already won the award twice and so give someone else deserving a shot. Obviously not.

 

[JohnnyU]

If there ever was an award that doesn't mean anything in terms of job security "Coach of the Year" is it.

Didn't Marvin Lewis win this thing? He still has a job.

I'm sure there are plenty of "Coach of the year" guys who have lost their jobs. It ranks right up there with "Coach of the Year' for the NBA, but not quite as bad.

 

[elmanx]

Bill Belichick should basically win this award every year. He is the best coach by a wide margin.

 

[Bossman]

He deserved it. The pats had a great season and he did a bell of a job. But let's stop calling every failed superbowl run by BB a rebuilding season please. It wasn't a rebuilding season. It wasn't last year or the year before. People that say that sound pretty clueless.

If sacrificing vet talent to gain extra draft picks in rounds 1, 2, and 3 this year isn't considered rebuilding then I'm not sure what qualifies....... with rookies making major contributions at 2 TE, CB, and 2 LB positions, 2 and 3 year players starting all over the place, and with arguably the toughest schedule in the NFL, even New England homers couldn't have predicted a 14 win season.

it's pretty scary actually. (but some people do sound pretty clueless)

 

[Sinrman]

Personally I think Haley, McCarthy, or Morris should have gotten it. The Pats are always near the top, and the Chiefs and Bucs just made serious turnarounds. One made the playoffs, and one just barely missed them. Then you have McCarthy who has done an incredible job with what he has after absorbing injury after injury after injury. To have absolutely no running game throughout the year and all of the other injuries that landed people on IR, that says something. So ultimately my vote is McCarthy... and I am a Lions fan saying that!

 

[onlyseventeenpoints?]

He deserved it. The pats had a great season and he did a bell of a job. But let's stop calling every failed superbowl run by BB a rebuilding season please. It wasn't a rebuilding season. It wasn't last year or the year before. People that say that sound pretty clueless.

I'm not sure what qualifies....

Agreed. I think the best thing to do was to huddle up at the beginning of the year and decide then whY the year will be. Rebuilding? Competitive? Then stick to it.

 

[parrot]

He deserved it. The pats had a great season and he did a bell of a job. But let's stop calling every failed superbowl run by BB a rebuilding season please. It wasn't a rebuilding season. It wasn't last year or the year before. People that say that sound pretty clueless.

If sacrificing vet talent to gain extra draft picks in rounds 1, 2, and 3 this year isn't considered rebuilding then I'm not sure what qualifies....... with rookies making major contributions at 2 TE, CB, and 2 LB positions, 2 and 3 year players starting all over the place, and with arguably the toughest schedule in the NFL, even New England homers couldn't have predicted a 14 win season.

it's pretty scary actually. (but some people do sound pretty clueless)

They started the season without their starting RB from a year ago, his primary backup (when healthy), and their 3rd down/utility back who's been an integral part of their offense for the better part of a decade. In their places they plugged in a practice squad guy with 26 carries the previous year, and a guy who was with another team through training camp. They had traded the only TE who caught a single pass the year before as well and replaced him with two rookies and a vet most people considered just a blocker at this point in his career. Four games into the season they traded away a starting WR who had 1200 yds and 13 touchdowns the previous year. They replaced him with a vet who had to be acquired from another team - who had been all but written off by many - and a second year guy known more for his return talents rather than receiving, and hadn't caught a single pass the previous season. Oh, and their best offensive lineman held out nearly half the year. That's not even getting into the defense, which, as already mentioned, had multiple rookies starting or contributing and had multiple other 2nd and 3rd year guys coming into new roles.

On special teams they lost their probowl kicker to injury mid-year and started a rookie at punter .

It's crazy that anyone would call that a "rebuilding" year.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

The AP NFL Coach of the Year award will be announced next week Wednesday. Is there any question this award should go to either McCarthy or Tomlin? I don't think a reasonable argument can be made for anyone else given what we know today. Its a shame they insist on awarding it before the Superbowl. Absent extraordinary circumstances, this award should go to the coach of the champion team every year.

 

[David Yudkin]

The AP NFL Coach of the Year award will be announced next week Wednesday. Is there any question this award should go to either McCarthy or Tomlin? I don't think a reasonable argument can be made for anyone else given what we know today. Its a shame they insist on awarding it before the Superbowl. Absent extraordinary circumstances, this award should go to the coach of the champion team every year.

The only problem is that it is a regular season award with all voting done before the playoffs start. Other than that, your points are all solid. The only thing I can thing of, if it only goes to the SB winning coach, why bother having the award at all.