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I think his short term ceiling might be limited, but he's still got a lot of value as a bye week filler even with Foster healthy. I acquired him last weekend just for his Week 15 and 16 games against Indy and Carolina. I think he could easily put up 60 and a touchdown in either game. And if Foster gets hurt in the mean time, you have top 3 running back potential.
Or maybe the new Mihchael Bush.. Then again, we've already seen Johnathan play with DehAngelo Williams out. Behn Tate seems to do a fair job with Arhian Foster in the game... And he did very well with Arhian out..
Hey Carholina, I see wat you did there...IMO he's become and over-priced handcuff'Carolina Hustler said:
How many overpriced handcuffs are you going to be able to make use of as an RB2/flex from here on out with a strong possibility of 100+/td each game?
Fixed.
hhahaha'Carolina Hustler said:
Stooooooopid
If he has trade value he is not worthless.
gotcha
That seems to be a fair offer, maybe that is why he is a marginal contender.
white is 30. and slipping fast.Id decline too
There is no one as big on Tate as me but he is a back-up with a pretty good player to overcome to get into the starting gig. Jones is dinged-up, ATL will leave it all out on the field the next few weeks, and a first-round pick to boot; certainly seemed fair to me.
I think you misunderstood. I think he means Roddy for Tate and the Tate owner's mid-first. I'd laugh at that before hitting the reject button.
I think I misunderstood too, now. I don't know if I would of made the trade in my scenario, just that I thought it was fair. Tate, and a first, for Roddy; I'll pass.
Interesting. I guess a lot of people hold Tate in a very high regard. I think he has nice value to a Foster owner, but to anyone else he is a high-upside lottery ticket. You are basically hoping for a Foster injury, Foster not re-signing, or waiting out Tate's very inexpensive and team-friendly contact that goes through 2013. Of course, the injury could happen, but I highly doubt that Foster goes anywhere next year. So really, you are likely waiting until 2014 or hoping for an injury just to get Tate a shot. What he will do with that shot is completely unknown. Roddy White is a mid-range WR2 at WORST, with top 5 upside. 30 is not old for a WR. The first round pick is of course, a crapshoot.Tate and the pick are both unknowns. Roddy is a known, and you can be pretty confident that his floor is where he is right now. He didnt just lose all of his talent overnight. As has been noted repeatedly in these forums, a few pass interferences in the endzone and a few dropped TDs are the difference between Roddy being an untradable stud, and Roddy being a mid-range WR2.If I did not have ridiculous depth at WR, the offer would have never been made on my end. I think it is a tremendous offer personally. I am gunning for a title this year, and wanted Tate only to insure against disaster. Otherwise, no chance I trade away a proven commodity for 2 unproven lottery tickets.I think Tate is EXTREMELY overrated by his owners, and the commentary in this thread supports that theory.
You make a lucid explanation of your position but to characterize this trade as some sort of altruistic endeavor of you trading a WR, that will be no worse than a mid-WR2, for two crap-shoots is disingenuous. As we sit right now, Tate is the 25th ranked RB in total points (my league) as a back-up, that usually puts up double digit points for the week. At 25 that puts him as a mid-to-top RB3, depending on your league size; with undoubtedly top 3 potential with an injury to Foster, or at least an increase in touches with late season playing time. That upside alone makes him at least equal to Roddy, while probably surpassing White's value when you factor in that he is a RB; the pick's value (something that you dismiss) makes this trade not doable for me.
Lunacy in my opinion, but thats what makes this game fun.Just 2 months ago, the Ben Tate fan club had him pulling a Wally Pipp on Arian Foster. The unwarranted exuberance for Ben Tate is off the charts. People act like he is not only a sure thing to start one day soon, but also a sure thing to excel when he does. Neither are even remotely true, and frankly the odds are against both IMO. He got nice numbers when Foster was out, and in a few blowouts this season. With Schaub out, the blowouts are likely fewer and futher between. So if you are comfortable saying that a guy who may get 8-10 touches and likely none at the goal line, with that situation unlikely to change for a few years is a better dynasty player than Roddy White, than your opinion of Roddy White is clearly extremely low.'pittstownkiller said:
