Bennett "Likely" To Remain Vikings' Starting RB (1 Viewer)

[switz]

CBS Sportsline is reporting that Bennett will not be starting.Big O gets the start.

quote....link. WHere can I find this?

Who knows? A wild guess would be CBS Sportsline.

:rotflmao: You sure are internet savvy SLBD.

Yeah I know cause people tell me that. I been around the innernet since like, 1981 or so.

:rotflmao: Maybe since '86, prior to that there wasn't much access to the 'net, unless you were in the military, or worked at one of the universities that housed one of the SCs used. The Web wasn't around til '89, between 86-89 there were alot of bulletin boards you could dial in to.So being familiar with the web and the 'net are totally different things. People misuse the term 'net constantly. Really, SLBD probably is web-savvy, but he most definitely is not internet-savvy, unless he knows protocols and can wrap packets.The fact that someone misused the term internet savvy, really shows they probably are neither web savvy, nor internet savvy.So ends your lesson on the history of the internet as we know it today.

 

[Family Matters]

CBS Sportsline is reporting that Bennett will not be starting.Big O gets the start.

quote....link. WHere can I find this?

Who knows? A wild guess would be CBS Sportsline.

:rotflmao: You sure are internet savvy SLBD.

Yeah I know cause people tell me that. I been around the innernet since like, 1981 or so.

:rotflmao: Maybe since '86, prior to that there wasn't much access to the 'net, unless you were in the military, or worked at one of the universities that housed one of the SCs used. The Web wasn't around til '89, between 86-89 there were alot of bulletin boards you could dial in to.So being familiar with the web and the 'net are totally different things. People misuse the term 'net constantly. Really, SLBD probably is web-savvy, but he most definitely is not internet-savvy, unless he knows protocols and can wrap packets.The fact that someone misused the term internet savvy, really shows they probably are neither web savvy, nor internet savvy.So ends your lesson on the history of the internet as we know it today.

Kinda like the misuse of the term "starting RB" in Minn?

 

[switz]

CBS Sportsline is reporting that Bennett will not be starting.Big O gets the start.

quote....link. WHere can I find this?

Who knows? A wild guess would be CBS Sportsline.

:rotflmao: You sure are internet savvy SLBD.

Yeah I know cause people tell me that. I been around the innernet since like, 1981 or so.

:rotflmao: Maybe since '86, prior to that there wasn't much access to the 'net, unless you were in the military, or worked at one of the universities that housed one of the SCs used. The Web wasn't around til '89, between 86-89 there were alot of bulletin boards you could dial in to.So being familiar with the web and the 'net are totally different things. People misuse the term 'net constantly. Really, SLBD probably is web-savvy, but he most definitely is not internet-savvy, unless he knows protocols and can wrap packets.The fact that someone misused the term internet savvy, really shows they probably are neither web savvy, nor internet savvy.So ends your lesson on the history of the internet as we know it today.

Kinda like the misuse of the term "starting RB" in Minn?

:rotflmao:

 

[Eagle Eye]

Anything new? Any O owners looking to aquire Bennett cheap?

 

[Eagle Eye]

Any other day the current Minn RB thread is like but the day when I've got to decide if I should give up some RB depth for Bennett plus help in other areas,

 

[gadkins]

I have O. I'm currenlty not trying to accuire bennent. The way I see it is the owner of Bennent has held on to him this long he is not going to be had for his market value right now. However I don't know what goes on in Mike Tice's mind . He gets my vote for the worst coach in football this year with the way he handled Randy Moss. Maybe he should look at the Pittsburgh Steelers and see what a real coach should do. :stillers: -- When handling players with hamstring injuries.

 

[dwampler]

O Smith had a shoulder stinger this week, but they both should split carries again.

 

[switz]

O Smith had a shoulder stinger this week, but they both should split carries again.

That was last week, which is what slowed O in practice. According to Pioneer Press, if O is still slowed in practice, they will split carries, but if O looks ready to go full speed, he will get the start.Apparently, Tice never learned to play your studs through injury. Either way when all your RBs combine for less than 15 carries, none are going to do well. Tice seems to only run the ball alot when he has only one healthy RB, but once a bunch are healthy he goes away from the run. Counterlogic if you ask me.

 

[Bubba]

"You'd really like to have one guy carry the load every week and the other guy be the spell guy, if you will," coach Mike Tice said Monday. "Even though Onterrio didn't miss any practice time last week, I didn't think he looked as explosive as Mike did. I thought Mike had a real good week last week. I really did."

Link to story...

OSmith is all done...even Tice knows he sucks...

 

[switz]

"You'd really like to have one guy carry the load every week and the other guy be the spell guy, if you will," coach Mike Tice said Monday. "Even though Onterrio didn't miss any practice time last week, I didn't think he looked as explosive as Mike did. I thought Mike had a real good week last week. I really did."

Link to story...

OSmith is all done...even Tice knows he sucks...

LOL! Man that's a nice spin... Guess you missed the part that if Smith looks good in practice he won't split carries with Bennett this week, but will only if he continues to struggle with the shoulder stinger...

Smith was slowed in practice during the week by a right shoulder stinger he suffered in the previous Monday night's loss at Indianapolis.

Depending on how he practices this week, Smith and Bennett could continue to split time against the Lions. A high ankle sprain still bothers rookie Mewelde Moore.

From the context, you can tell that when Tice said Bennett looked good, he was referring to last week's practices. Additionally it's fairly obvious that as long as Smith looks healthier this week he'll get the Lion's share of carries (no pun intended).You have to be a moron to think anything in those quotes would indicate that Tice thinks O sucks... you must be

 

[Bubba]

"You'd really like to have one guy carry the load every week and the other guy be the spell guy, if you will," coach Mike Tice said Monday. "Even though Onterrio didn't miss any practice time last week, I didn't think he looked as explosive as Mike did. I thought Mike had a real good week last week. I really did."

Link to story...

OSmith is all done...even Tice knows he sucks...

LOL! Man that's a nice spin... Guess you missed the part that if Smith looks good in practice he won't split carries with Bennett this week, but will only if he continues to struggle with the shoulder stinger...

Smith was slowed in practice during the week by a right shoulder stinger he suffered in the previous Monday night's loss at Indianapolis.

Depending on how he practices this week, Smith and Bennett could continue to split time against the Lions. A high ankle sprain still bothers rookie Mewelde Moore.

From the context, you can tell that when Tice said Bennett looked good, he was referring to last week's practices. Additionally it's fairly obvious that as long as Smith looks healthier this week he'll get the Lion's share of carries (no pun intended).You have to be a moron to think anything in those quotes would indicate that Tice thinks O sucks... you must be

Smith sucks...get over it...

 

[switz]

"You'd really like to have one guy carry the load every week and the other guy be the spell guy, if you will," coach Mike Tice said Monday. "Even though Onterrio didn't miss any practice time last week, I didn't think he looked as explosive as Mike did. I thought Mike had a real good week last week. I really did."

Link to story...

OSmith is all done...even Tice knows he sucks...

LOL! Man that's a nice spin... Guess you missed the part that if Smith looks good in practice he won't split carries with Bennett this week, but will only if he continues to struggle with the shoulder stinger...

Smith was slowed in practice during the week by a right shoulder stinger he suffered in the previous Monday night's loss at Indianapolis.

Depending on how he practices this week, Smith and Bennett could continue to split time against the Lions. A high ankle sprain still bothers rookie Mewelde Moore.

From the context, you can tell that when Tice said Bennett looked good, he was referring to last week's practices. Additionally it's fairly obvious that as long as Smith looks healthier this week he'll get the Lion's share of carries (no pun intended).You have to be a moron to think anything in those quotes would indicate that Tice thinks O sucks... you must be

Smith sucks...get over it...

yep, definitely fishing...

 

[bumpman]

"You'd really like to have one guy carry the load every week and the other guy be the spell guy, if you will," coach Mike Tice said Monday. "Even though Onterrio didn't miss any practice time last week, I didn't think he looked as explosive as Mike did. I thought Mike had a real good week last week. I really did."Link to story...OSmith is all done...even Tice knows he sucks...

 

[Legion of Doom]

yep, definitely fishing...

You've been Bubba'ed

 

[glock]

CBS Sportsline is reporting that Bennett will not be starting.Big O gets the start.

quote....link. WHere can I find this?

Who knows? A wild guess would be CBS Sportsline.

:rotflmao: You sure are internet savvy SLBD.

Yeah I know cause people tell me that. I been around the innernet since like, 1981 or so.

:rotflmao: Maybe since '86, prior to that there wasn't much access to the 'net, unless you were in the military, or worked at one of the universities that housed one of the SCs used. The Web wasn't around til '89, between 86-89 there were alot of bulletin boards you could dial in to.So being familiar with the web and the 'net are totally different things. People misuse the term 'net constantly. Really, SLBD probably is web-savvy, but he most definitely is not internet-savvy, unless he knows protocols and can wrap packets.The fact that someone misused the term internet savvy, really shows they probably are neither web savvy, nor internet savvy.So ends your lesson on the history of the internet as we know it today.

switz=Al Gore

 

[switz]

switz=Al Gore

nah, Tim Berners Lee

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

Anything new? Any O owners looking to aquire Bennett cheap?

Eagle-I don't think Bennett provides you much value. I think there are 2 possibilities here:1)Bennett and Smith share time and Moe gets 3rd down-like the game against Green Bay. In this case, neither back has much value.2)Smith becomes "The Guy" and gets 70% of the carries with Bennett spelling him every once in a while and Moe retaining his role. I haven't seen (or heard) anything that hints towards Bennett being "The guy" so either way, Bennett doesn't hold much value.

 

[glock]

switz=Al Gore

nah, Tim Berners Lee

...quantum leap.

 

[Gr00vus]

Put it this way, with the game on the line who got the PT? Who got the ball?Onterrio Smith and Moe Williams. They both came through. The one shovel pass to Onterrio spoke volumes - think about it.That should tell you everything you need to know.

 

[Eagle Eye]

Anything new? Any O owners looking to aquire Bennett cheap?

Eagle-I don't think Bennett provides you much value. I think there are 2 possibilities here:1)Bennett and Smith share time and Moe gets 3rd down-like the game against Green Bay. In this case, neither back has much value.2)Smith becomes "The Guy" and gets 70% of the carries with Bennett spelling him every once in a while and Moe retaining his role. I haven't seen (or heard) anything that hints towards Bennett being "The guy" so either way, Bennett doesn't hold much value.

Thanks Warehouse.I can get him really cheap but until recently I didn't even think he was worth a roster spot. This is the first time in awhile I've heard any positive words for Bennett coming from Tice. My concern is if he does do something with his carries, and it might only take one long one, maybe he gets a shot.

 

[switz]

That should tell you everything you need to know.

Some people only look for what they "want" to "know"

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

CBS Sportsline is reporting that Bennett will not be starting.Big O gets the start.

quote....link. WHere can I find this?

Who knows? A wild guess would be CBS Sportsline.

:rotflmao: You sure are internet savvy SLBD.

Yeah I know cause people tell me that. I been around the innernet since like, 1981 or so.

:rotflmao: Maybe since '86, prior to that there wasn't much access to the 'net, unless you were in the military, or worked at one of the universities that housed one of the SCs used. The Web wasn't around til '89, between 86-89 there were alot of bulletin boards you could dial in to.So being familiar with the web and the 'net are totally different things. People misuse the term 'net constantly. Really, SLBD probably is web-savvy, but he most definitely is not internet-savvy, unless he knows protocols and can wrap packets.The fact that someone misused the term internet savvy, really shows they probably are neither web savvy, nor internet savvy.So ends your lesson on the history of the internet as we know it today.

:rotflmao: Good Christ, Mr. Gore, I was joking. Note the grammar and spelling.

 

[switz]

The fact that someone misused the term internet savvy, really shows they probably are neither web savvy, nor internet savvy.So ends your lesson on the history of the internet as we know it today.

:rotflmao: Good Christ, Mr. Gore, I was joking. Note the grammar and spelling.

Goodness gracious... I was kidding back as well, and if anything poked more fun at Warehouse than you... potatoe

 

[Da Masses]

That should tell you everything you need to know.

Some people only look for what they "want" to "know"

Amen to that, brother

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Put it this way, with the game on the line who got the PT? Who got the ball?Onterrio Smith and Moe Williams. They both came through. The one shovel pass to Onterrio spoke volumes - think about it.That should tell you everything you need to know.

The only thing you need to know is that Minnesota's RB situation is not worth hasseling with.I take that back, here's another thing you need to know:NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year. Yeah, that's 9 games.There are guys who will tell you Onterrio Smith is going to change everything and be the stud he was destined to be. They've been saying it for years. Don't believe the hype. He HAS the talent, but he doesn't have the attitude (too much risk) or the situation to be a fantasy stud.Does everyone think Moore is just going to disappear when he gets healthy? Nobody is even mentioning him and prior to the injury he was all-world. Moe isn't going anywhere because he is very good at what he does. Bennet DOES have skills that O doesn't have despie what you hear on these boards.All of this leads to a not so good situation for poor ole' Smith. He may well be the most talented RB on the roster, but it doesn't mean spit.

 

[packersfan]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year. Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

 

[switz]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year. Yeah, that's 9 games.

You may just want to check the stats on that one Just figured I should add... name one thing Bennett does that Smith can't, and then back it up.

 

[Da Masses]

And pencil me in for the "O" party this week, Sonny.

Who's playing on the stage this week? Hope you were able to book Parliment and Bootsy Collins? Gap Band was killer last party

 

[Holy Schneikes]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year. Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

 

[switz]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year.  Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

:rotflmao: Nice try at recovering from that.Yeah, I guess no one valued Faulk, or Holmes, or LT for their receiving ability and the TDs they get receiving, nor any other RB who showed he could score off receptions. In fact, I don't even know why we count them in fantasy football.

 

[packersfan]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year.  Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

I could care less how a player scores as long as he scores (and Smith has scored in each of the past two games by the way). All I care about is production. If a player is producing from a fantasy perspective then he is someone I'm going to consider starting. Given Smith's production the last two weeks he merits that type of consideration. If it's learned he's going to start or be the primary RB than it's a no-brainer to start him in my opinion.

 

[Da Masses]

Put it this way, with the game on the line who got the PT? Who got the ball?Onterrio Smith and Moe Williams. They both came through. The one shovel pass to Onterrio spoke volumes - think about it.That should tell you everything you need to know.

The only thing you need to know is that Minnesota's RB situation is not worth hasseling with.I take that back, here's another thing you need to know:NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year. Yeah, that's 9 games.There are guys who will tell you Onterrio Smith is going to change everything and be the stud he was destined to be. They've been saying it for years. Don't believe the hype. He HAS the talent, but he doesn't have the attitude (too much risk) or the situation to be a fantasy stud.Does everyone think Moore is just going to disappear when he gets healthy? Nobody is even mentioning him and prior to the injury he was all-world. Moe isn't going anywhere because he is very good at what he does. Bennet DOES have skills that O doesn't have despie what you hear on these boards.All of this leads to a not so good situation for poor ole' Smith. He may well be the most talented RB on the roster, but it doesn't mean spit.

IMO, Moore looks to be on track to replace Bennett. He's losing just as much playing time as Ms Bennettsworth did to injury

 

[Holy Schneikes]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year.  Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

:rotflmao: Nice try at recovering from that.Yeah, I guess no one valued Faulk, or Holmes, or LT for their receiving ability and the TDs they get receiving, nor any other RB who showed he could score off receptions. In fact, I don't even know why we count them in fantasy football.

Yeah, that WAS tough to recover from - fairly devastating. I thought it was fairly obvious what I was refering to (since if you include receiving TDs, there might be a FEW guys with more than 1?), but I had to be more specific for some folks. No biggie.Those guys SUPPLEMENTED their TD production with receiving TDs, they didn't RELY on them. But you're right, O is right up there with Faulk, Priest and LT for receiving because he has TWO CAREER TD RECEPTIONS.You do realize that Smith had 15 receptions in 15 games last year right? Yup, forget about Moore, forget about Moe, this guy is Faulk Jr and you shouldn't worry that he will very rarely see a goal-line carry. I'm sure he will RECEIVE a TD/game from here on out.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

And pencil me in for the "O" party this week, Sonny.

Who's playing on the stage this week? Hope you were able to book Parliment and Bootsy Collins? Gap Band was killer last party

It's on like Donkey Kong, brother.Just trying to wrap up a red-hot DJ (from NY), for the ladies to dance late into the night...

HTH

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Put it this way, with the game on the line who got the PT?  Who got the ball?Onterrio Smith and Moe Williams.  They both came through.  The one shovel pass to Onterrio spoke volumes - think about it.That should tell you everything you need to know.

The only thing you need to know is that Minnesota's RB situation is not worth hasseling with.I take that back, here's another thing you need to know:NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year. Yeah, that's 9 games.There are guys who will tell you Onterrio Smith is going to change everything and be the stud he was destined to be. They've been saying it for years. Don't believe the hype. He HAS the talent, but he doesn't have the attitude (too much risk) or the situation to be a fantasy stud.Does everyone think Moore is just going to disappear when he gets healthy? Nobody is even mentioning him and prior to the injury he was all-world. Moe isn't going anywhere because he is very good at what he does. Bennet DOES have skills that O doesn't have despie what you hear on these boards.All of this leads to a not so good situation for poor ole' Smith. He may well be the most talented RB on the roster, but it doesn't mean spit.

IMO, Moore looks to be on track to replace Bennett. He's losing just as much playing time as Ms Bennettsworth did to injury

He has a sprained ankle. It happens, and they tend to hobble your for a while. But when they are done, they don't tend to hold you back. I seriously doubt we have heard the last from Moore this year.MUCH better to have an ankle injury than a knee injury.

 

[Gr00vus]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year. Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

:rotflmao: Nice try at recovering from that.Yeah, I guess no one valued Faulk, or Holmes, or LT for their receiving ability and the TDs they get receiving, nor any other RB who showed he could score off receptions. In fact, I don't even know why we count them in fantasy football.

Yeah, that WAS tough to recover from - fairly devastating. I thought it was fairly obvious what I was refering to (since if you include receiving TDs, there might be a FEW guys with more than 1?), but I had to be more specific for some folks. No biggie.Those guys SUPPLEMENTED their TD production with receiving TDs, they didn't RELY on them. But you're right, O is right up there with Faulk, Priest and LT for receiving because he has TWO CAREER TD RECEPTIONS.You do realize that Smith had 15 receptions in 15 games last year right? Yup, forget about Moore, forget about Moe, this guy is Faulk Jr and you shouldn't worry that he will very rarely see a goal-line carry. I'm sure he will RECEIVE a TD/game from here on out.

Statistically that shovel pass last week goes down as a receiving TD, but let's be honest, it was effectively a rushing td.

 

[Hendo]

Just figured I should add... name one thing Bennett does that Smith can't, and then back it up.

has the ability to take a 60 yard run to the house. Bennett has speed if u really want me to dig up both their combine #'s i'd be glad to do it. however i dont think there's merit to argue against that. hey u asked

 

[Holy Schneikes]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year.  Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

:rotflmao: Nice try at recovering from that.Yeah, I guess no one valued Faulk, or Holmes, or LT for their receiving ability and the TDs they get receiving, nor any other RB who showed he could score off receptions. In fact, I don't even know why we count them in fantasy football.

Yeah, that WAS tough to recover from - fairly devastating. I thought it was fairly obvious what I was refering to (since if you include receiving TDs, there might be a FEW guys with more than 1?), but I had to be more specific for some folks. No biggie.Those guys SUPPLEMENTED their TD production with receiving TDs, they didn't RELY on them. But you're right, O is right up there with Faulk, Priest and LT for receiving because he has TWO CAREER TD RECEPTIONS.You do realize that Smith had 15 receptions in 15 games last year right? Yup, forget about Moore, forget about Moe, this guy is Faulk Jr and you shouldn't worry that he will very rarely see a goal-line carry. I'm sure he will RECEIVE a TD/game from here on out.

Statistically that shovel pass last week goes down as a receiving TD, but let's be honest, it was effectively a rushing td.

No problem. Forget the statistics.I'll stick to the point.Whatever few rushing TDs there are to be had for the Minnesota Vikings (kings of the 1 yard TD pass to WRs), will be spread pretty thin between the short yardage specialist (Moe), a rushing QB, and whoever happens to go for a longer one (Smith, Bennett, Moore).It will be fairly rare that Smith, Moore or Bennett (whoever happens to be in at the time) will receive many 1 or 2 yard runs for TDs. Any of them might get a one or two here and there, but not like a Curtis Martin, a Priest Holmes, a Thomas Jones, an LT, an Alexander, etc. That lack, plus the fact that Minnesota doesn't even run all that much (28th in the league in rushes), PLUS the RBBC situation (whether Tice or you guys admit it or not) isn't going to yield a lot of fantasy points for any one RB in Minnesota.

 

[packersfan]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year.  Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

:rotflmao: Nice try at recovering from that.Yeah, I guess no one valued Faulk, or Holmes, or LT for their receiving ability and the TDs they get receiving, nor any other RB who showed he could score off receptions. In fact, I don't even know why we count them in fantasy football.

Yeah, that WAS tough to recover from - fairly devastating. I thought it was fairly obvious what I was refering to (since if you include receiving TDs, there might be a FEW guys with more than 1?), but I had to be more specific for some folks. No biggie.Those guys SUPPLEMENTED their TD production with receiving TDs, they didn't RELY on them. But you're right, O is right up there with Faulk, Priest and LT for receiving because he has TWO CAREER TD RECEPTIONS.You do realize that Smith had 15 receptions in 15 games last year right? Yup, forget about Moore, forget about Moe, this guy is Faulk Jr and you shouldn't worry that he will very rarely see a goal-line carry. I'm sure he will RECEIVE a TD/game from here on out.

Statistically that shovel pass last week goes down as a receiving TD, but let's be honest, it was effectively a rushing td.

No problem. Forget the statistics.I'll stick to the point.Whatever few rushing TDs there are to be had for the Minnesota Vikings (kings of the 1 yard TD pass to WRs), will be spread pretty thin between the short yardage specialist (Moe), a rushing QB, and whoever happens to go for a longer one (Smith, Bennett, Moore).It will be fairly rare that Smith, Moore or Bennett (whoever happens to be in at the time) will receive many 1 or 2 yard runs for TDs. Any of them might get a one or two here and there, but not like a Curtis Martin, a Priest Holmes, a Thomas Jones, an LT, an Alexander, etc. That lack, plus the fact that Minnesota doesn't even run all that much (28th in the league in rushes), PLUS the RBBC situation (whether Tice or you guys admit it or not) isn't going to yield a lot of fantasy points for any one RB in Minnesota.

Moore won't be a serious factor in the offense if Smith and Bennett are healthy.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

NO ONE ON THE TEAM has more than one TD this year.  Yeah, that's 9 games.

You might want to do a little more checking into Smith's TD total.Just an FYI.

RUSHING TDs. My bad, forgot to qualify.If you want to rely on receptions for your TD production from a starting fantasy back, go for it. I don't.

:rotflmao: Nice try at recovering from that.Yeah, I guess no one valued Faulk, or Holmes, or LT for their receiving ability and the TDs they get receiving, nor any other RB who showed he could score off receptions. In fact, I don't even know why we count them in fantasy football.

Yeah, that WAS tough to recover from - fairly devastating. I thought it was fairly obvious what I was refering to (since if you include receiving TDs, there might be a FEW guys with more than 1?), but I had to be more specific for some folks. No biggie.Those guys SUPPLEMENTED their TD production with receiving TDs, they didn't RELY on them. But you're right, O is right up there with Faulk, Priest and LT for receiving because he has TWO CAREER TD RECEPTIONS.You do realize that Smith had 15 receptions in 15 games last year right? Yup, forget about Moore, forget about Moe, this guy is Faulk Jr and you shouldn't worry that he will very rarely see a goal-line carry. I'm sure he will RECEIVE a TD/game from here on out.

Statistically that shovel pass last week goes down as a receiving TD, but let's be honest, it was effectively a rushing td.

No problem. Forget the statistics.I'll stick to the point.Whatever few rushing TDs there are to be had for the Minnesota Vikings (kings of the 1 yard TD pass to WRs), will be spread pretty thin between the short yardage specialist (Moe), a rushing QB, and whoever happens to go for a longer one (Smith, Bennett, Moore).It will be fairly rare that Smith, Moore or Bennett (whoever happens to be in at the time) will receive many 1 or 2 yard runs for TDs. Any of them might get a one or two here and there, but not like a Curtis Martin, a Priest Holmes, a Thomas Jones, an LT, an Alexander, etc. That lack, plus the fact that Minnesota doesn't even run all that much (28th in the league in rushes), PLUS the RBBC situation (whether Tice or you guys admit it or not) isn't going to yield a lot of fantasy points for any one RB in Minnesota.

Moore won't be a serious factor in the offense if Smith and Bennett are healthy.

What's that opinion based on?In limited opportunities, Moore has been by FAR the most productive of the bunch this year.I'm not saying he comes back and resumes a his feature-back role (though he might), but how do you just not use a guy who put up 537 yards in three games a starter (more than any Minnesota back who has ever taken the field over three games) if he's healthy?

 

[Disco Stu]

No problem. Forget the statistics.I'll stick to the point.Whatever few rushing TDs there are to be had for the Minnesota Vikings (kings of the 1 yard TD pass to WRs), will be spread pretty thin between the short yardage specialist (Moe), a rushing QB, and whoever happens to go for a longer one (Smith, Bennett, Moore).It will be fairly rare that Smith, Moore or Bennett (whoever happens to be in at the time) will receive many 1 or 2 yard runs for TDs. Any of them might get a one or two here and there, but not like a Curtis Martin, a Priest Holmes, a Thomas Jones, an LT, an Alexander, etc. That lack, plus the fact that Minnesota doesn't even run all that much (28th in the league in rushes), PLUS the RBBC situation (whether Tice or you guys admit it or not) isn't going to yield a lot of fantasy points for any one RB in Minnesota.

I don't think anyone here (not even switz ) is advocating trading any MN RB for a Shaun Alexander. I don't know what type of league you're in, but in my leagues more than the top 5 RBs have value.In Smith's five games he has been a serviceable RB2, excellent RB3. Maybe that doesn't meet your definition of "a lot of fantasy points", but that doesn't mean this isn't an important issue. If Smith can produce at his current rate (or better), he'll provide a nice boost to his owners.

 

[bumpman]

In limited opportunities, Moore has been by FAR the most productive of the bunch this year.I'm not saying he comes back and resumes a his feature-back role (though he might), but how do you just not use a guy who put up 537 yards in three games a starter (more than any Minnesota back who has ever taken the field over three games) if he's healthy?

Tice will use Moore . . . to return kicks.http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/lo...9E-C2D3657F3BFC

 

[switz]

Just figured I should add... name one thing Bennett does that Smith can't, and then back it up.

has the ability to take a 60 yard run to the house. Bennett has speed if u really want me to dig up both their combine #'s i'd be glad to do it. however i dont think there's merit to argue against that.hey u asked

Smith's done it too... like I said, back it up. Smith has done that, so can Bennett. Name something Bennett can do that Smith can't... that was the point.You'd have a hard time digging up Smith's combine 40 time, since he didn't participate! :rotflmao: However he benched 19 times. In team workouts he ran in the 4.5's, however he was recuperating from knee surgery, so those numbers don't truly indicate his speed.

Here's one report mentioning speed here:

Combining instinct, explosion, and the speed not as good but comparable to starter Michael Bennett to run away from defenders, Smith displays franchise-type abilities and takes over games.

another one

On pure talent, Onterrio Smith (fourth) is the best runner in the draft, after Miami's Willis McGahee, but Smith is coming off a knee injury, plus some off-the-field mishaps.

Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports,, Smith was finally able to run on April 1 in front of about 15 teams. Figure that he had an average 40 time of 4.55 -- he went as low as 4.52 and as high as 4.58, depending on whose timer you're looking at. He also did this while weighing 215 pounds. Smith added a 33½-inch vertical, a 9-foot-2 long jump, a 4.34 short shuttle and a 7.21 three-cone drill. He also benched 16 times and really looked good catching the ball.

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One of those weapons, Onterrio Smith, is going to be an interesting player to follow this season. Smith is a tireless self-promoter, the self-proclaimed Steal of the Draft from 2003, but Smith doesn't have to be in the game long before he gives himself reason to celebrate. The dude can flat-out play. He's fast and shifty, and he seems to have an innate ability to hit the hole quickly and slip through it without much contact. He doesn't have Michael Bennett's breakaway speed, but he's got enough speed to make defenses pay[b/] if they don't play the run.

Here's some interesting news... Travis Henry's combine 40 was faster than Michael Bennett's:here

RBs Michael Bennett of Wisconsin and Travis Henry of Tennessee made their decision to participate in all the workouts at the Combine pay off with impressive 40-times on Saturday. Bennett, who says his personal best in the 40 is 4.29, ran under 4.4, while Henry registered a 4.34.

So yeah, Bennett may have a faster 40 time, but he doesn't have faster football speed. Smit has taken a ball 60+ yards for a TD too.You asked

 

[Hendo]

you just proved me right... he is not as fast as Michael Bennett. which is what i stated. in fact the 63 yarder he took to the house was a screen pass play. Bennett has done so his the most he went was an 85 yarder but he still possess that ability something Oneterio Smith does not have. also from the Henry comment ... he was no t"faster" Bennett ran 2 40's and clocked sub 4.4 every time. Henry ran it once with his superb outing and his time i had him on was 4.38(theres more then one stop watch) atleast he did run at the combine guys who do not ala: Charles Rogers/Andre Johnson ect back in 02 ect where upheld that year by combine wiz Terrence Newman. it doesnt bode well for their stock in my eyes even tho they hold pro days.(not knocking either player just making a statement that the combine is better proof to up your status and credit's then pro days) Smith is not as fast as Bennett... he's "Tice's" guy. so i'm out of this debate just wanted to bring that fact up

 

[Holy Schneikes]

No problem. Forget the statistics.I'll stick to the point.Whatever few rushing TDs there are to be had for the Minnesota Vikings (kings of the 1 yard TD pass to WRs), will be spread pretty thin between the short yardage specialist (Moe), a rushing QB, and whoever happens to go for a longer one (Smith, Bennett, Moore).It will be fairly rare that Smith, Moore or Bennett (whoever happens to be in at the time) will receive many 1 or 2 yard runs for TDs. Any of them might get a one or two here and there, but not like a Curtis Martin, a Priest Holmes, a Thomas Jones, an LT, an Alexander, etc. That lack, plus the fact that Minnesota doesn't even run all that much (28th in the league in rushes), PLUS the RBBC situation (whether Tice or you guys admit it or not) isn't going to yield a lot of fantasy points for any one RB in Minnesota.

I don't think anyone here (not even switz ) is advocating trading any MN RB for a Shaun Alexander. I don't know what type of league you're in, but in my leagues more than the top 5 RBs have value.In Smith's five games he has been a serviceable RB2, excellent RB3. Maybe that doesn't meet your definition of "a lot of fantasy points", but that doesn't mean this isn't an important issue. If Smith can produce at his current rate (or better), he'll provide a nice boost to his owners.

That's not the impression I get. I get the feeling from a certain group of core supporters who shall remain nameless, that this guy is the most talented running back on the planet (light-years ahead of Bennett) and he will just take over from here on out. Because he has caught a couple of TD passes, he is being compared to Faulk, Priest, and LT. I'm just here to inject a dose of reality from time to time.I'm not suggesting he's worthless, I'm just saying if he's not already on your team, don't go nuts trying to get him.Yes, in his five games he's been pretty decent. MAYBE that will continue, maybe not. In his first couple of games, Bennett was completely out of the picture, that's no longer the case. In his last couple of games, Moore has been out of the picture, and that's not going to be the case forever.As I've been saying since day one (last year included), he's a talented runner - he's just not talented enough to overcome all of things holding him back.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

In limited opportunities, Moore has been by FAR the most productive of the bunch this year.I'm not saying he comes back and resumes a his feature-back role (though he might), but how do you just not use a guy who put up 537 yards in three games a starter (more than any Minnesota back who has ever taken the field over three games) if he's healthy?

Tice will use Moore . . . to return kicks.http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/lo...9E-C2D3657F3BFC

Tice has said that about all three backs at one point or other (this year in fact). I don't read too much into it.Until he's healthy, there is nothing to worry about. But when he is, we'll just have to see.

 

[buccosfan]

i can't see how anyone could rely on any of these backs right now. i'm in a situation where i'll have to play onterrio this weekend and hope for the best (the indy game; not the green bay game).if i wasn't in a keeper league, i would trade smith right now. but in a keeper league i have to hold on to him and hope for the best.i didn't think moore had a chance when he got hurt of getting the job back. now, why would tice not give him the job back? he's been productive and tice is in a must-win-now situation.

 

[Da Masses]

No problem. Forget the statistics.

I'll stick to the point.

Whatever few rushing TDs there are to be had for the Minnesota Vikings (kings of the 1 yard TD pass to WRs), will be spread pretty thin between the short yardage specialist (Moe), a rushing QB, and whoever happens to go for a longer one (Smith, Bennett, Moore).

It will be fairly rare that Smith, Moore or Bennett (whoever happens to be in at the time) will receive many 1 or 2 yard runs for TDs. Any of them might get a one or two here and there, but not like a Curtis Martin, a Priest Holmes, a Thomas Jones, an LT, an Alexander, etc. That lack, plus the fact that Minnesota doesn't even run all that much (28th in the league in rushes), PLUS the RBBC situation (whether Tice or you guys admit it or not) isn't going to yield a lot of fantasy points for any one RB in Minnesota.

I don't think anyone here (not even switz ) is advocating trading any MN RB for a Shaun Alexander. I don't know what type of league you're in, but in my leagues more than the top 5 RBs have value.In Smith's five games he has been a serviceable RB2, excellent RB3. Maybe that doesn't meet your definition of "a lot of fantasy points", but that doesn't mean this isn't an important issue. If Smith can produce at his current rate (or better), he'll provide a nice boost to his owners.

That's not the impression I get. I get the feeling from a certain group of core supporters who shall remain nameless , that this guy is the most talented running back on the planet (light-years ahead of Bennett) and he will just take over from here on out. Because he has caught a couple of TD passes, he is being compared to Faulk, Priest, and LT. I'm just here to inject a dose of reality from time to time.I'm not suggesting he's worthless, I'm just saying if he's not already on your team, don't go nuts trying to get him.

Yes, in his five games he's been pretty decent. MAYBE that will continue, maybe not. In his first couple of games, Bennett was completely out of the picture, that's no longer the case. In his last couple of games, Moore has been out of the picture, and that's not going to be the case forever.

As I've been saying since day one (last year included), he's a talented runner - he's just not talented enough to overcome all of things holding him back.

You sound like me 2 months ago YOU TOO WILL BE ASSIMLATED, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Most if not all of the points about Bennett, Smith, Moore, Ned, whomever, have been brought up in other threads and have/will be successfully argued by HE-WHO-WILL-NOT-BE-NAMED.

HE-WHO-WILL-NOT-BE-NAMED never once stated that Smith is the second coming of Barry Sanders, HE-WHO-WILL-NOT-BE-NAMED has said that Smith is the best back IN MINN

 

[JAA]

argued by HE-WHO-WILL-NOT-BE-NAMED.

I heard if you say his name 3 times Barry Sanders comes out of retirement ... and that Q becomes an everydown back

 

[Da Masses]

argued by HE-WHO-WILL-NOT-BE-NAMED.

I heard if you say his name 3 times Barry Sanders comes out of retirement ... and that Q becomes an everydown back

SLIENCE!!! We must tread carefully, HE-WHO-WILL-NOT-BE-NAMED may lurk amongst us