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Are you referring to potential fantasy value the rest of this year, or the value of Scott in a dynasty heading into next year?I don't see either being that high. He won't have fantasy relevance this season, and it's too early to say what the 2011 situation will be in Cincy. My best guess is that we'll see a RBBC situation, but that's nothing but conservative speculation.
Benson has been a warrior who never gets the credit he deserves. Scott is good too, but he has been a nice complement/handcuff. Benson has put up big #'s on the best d's in the game.Maybe they will ride him out, but why would they if they have no shot at the playoffs anyway? they kno what they got in benson, shouldnt it be scotts turn to get maybe 5-10 carries a game at least? just to see what he can do?
Why play Carson Palmer? Why play Ocho and Owens? They know what they have in those guys, maybe they should start Shipley and some of the younger guys just to see what they can do? I'm obviously joking, but I don't think the fact that they're out of the playoffs means they should sit Benson, who has been decent enough. I could certainly see Scott getting a few more touches here and there though.
???? Scott hasn't even been in the league 3 years. Last year, he wasn't even close to as good as Benson. Benson had as much to do with the Bengals making the playoffs as any one player.This year, its at least an argument although I really don't think either have played well when Cincy's been in games.
You are conveniently forgetting that Benson's contract is up after the season. Benson wants a multiyear break the bank deal. Cincy has stopped contract talks with Benson because they are hesitant to give him that kind of coin. Thusly, the organization should want to know what they have with Scott so they have a better idea what to do about Benson. If Scott proves he can be an every down back, then Cincy can let Benson walk. If Scott proves he can't handle an every down role and is more suited to a 3rd down role, then Cincy can structure Benson's contract around being a 1st and 2nd down back. Clearly, Benson's role as part of the organization is up in the air. That isn't the case with Palmer, Ocho, TO. There is no way they let all 3 of them walk.With all of that said, Scott should have been the 3rd down back all season, so the coaching staff is clearly inept. Therefore, who knows what the hell they are thinking.
I get what you're saying but still don't agree that they'll simply hand over the reigns to Scott to see what he can do. TO is on a one-year contract, shouldn't they be letting Shipley prove he can handle the #2 opposite 85?
Good post. He just busted off a couple big gainers and had a big kick return. Other than that, everything it status quo. Its still a 80/20 split like it has been all year.Marvin doesn't care about future contracts because he's got one foot out the door.
Leonard has zero rushing TDs this year. He had zero rushing TDs last year. In fact, he has had zero rushing TDs in his career. There isn't any evidence or any reason to think that Leonard will suddenly become a goal line vulture now.
i know he wasnt in the league. he looked better at abilene than bensons 3.5 plodding in 08.anyway, im hesitant to give benson much credit for last yr. the oline was pretty imposing on running plays and he seemed to have big holes to run through. its hard for me to believe that benson is much more than replacement level starting rb. i think theres a good chance bernard would have outdone benson if he was the starter. thats just opinion ofc.cheese said:
I get the feeling that you are just playing devil's advocate here and I really don't want to be sucked into that game.todisco1 said:
He hasn't had less than 10 carries this year and the Bengals are 2-10. He's 6th in the league in carries. What on earth could possibly cause you to think he'll only get 10 carries this week?Benson is 28.3, Scott is 27.
I'm not sure where you are getting your info from. Benson's DOB is listed as 12/28/82 - meaning he is not yet 28 (although he will be in 2 weeks). Scott's DOB is listed as 2/10/84, meaning he is 26 (and will be 27 in less than 2 months). Incidentally, meaning that they are 27 and 26 right now. Although in 3 months, your post would be correct...basically - although being only 45 days apart, when Scott turns 27, Benson will only be 28.12 - but that might be taking the age thing too far.
That's a function of play calling, not Benson's ability - and actually, Benson already has a career high for receptions with 22 this year. In fact, his 22 recpetions on 29 targets for 1 TD and 6.4 yards per reception are better RB receiving numbers than Mendenhall. I was looking ad Ceds splits and one thing I found fairly interesting (granted, it is an emtremely small sample size) - his YPC stats are better (and by almsot an entire yard) when Cincy is leading. Typically, you find the opposite. That is, when you're ahead and trying to drain the clock and the other team knows you are trying to do so, they play better vs. the run. I'm not sure why that would be the case (i.e. motivational? better blocking scheme? personell that's in the game in those situations?). Normally his number of carries would go down when they're trailing, but you'd expect his YPC to be higher. But that's not the case. I just found it intriguing.doowain said:
Age really doesn't have much to do with this situation. All because Scott is only 1.5 years younger doesn't mean that Benson is still in his prime. Benson has a lot of wear and tear on those tires for someone his age, Scott has almost none. And this is exactly like a Shonn Greene/LT situation. Both LT and Benson are in decline and they both have very capable backups waiting in the wings. Scott just hasn't been given the opportunity yet. When he does get that opportunity, I do think he'll shine. Benson isn't the answer. Whether or not Scott is the answer, has yet to be decided. But the flashes that I've seen, I think that he would flourish with a full time role.
First off, Benson's "wear and tear" is simply not the case. He has basically the same number of career carries as MJD - no one is writing off MJD because of 1100 career carries. Just as a point of comparison (and why this is nowhere near LT/Shonn Greene): LT has over 3000 career carries. LT is also 31, not almost 28. Shonn Green was a high draft pick, Scott was not. Tomlinson has had 7 seasons of 300+ carries. Benson has had 1 last year...301 carries. Heck, Benson has only had 2 season of 200+ carries. There aint much wear and tear on them tires.This is nothing like LT.
Good posting.
Now your comparing MJD to Benson which is also just wrong. MJD is on a totally different level then Benson its not even funny. MJD carries Jaguar's and Benson seems to be now hurting the Bengles. Everyone came into this year with HIGH expectations for the Bengles and how their passing game was going to be amazing and therefore the running game was also going to step up because they cannot stack the line anymore. Though there where lots of games where the passing game was keeping the Bengles in it and their running game could just not finnish the deal.
Seriously?! You read my post and thought I was comparing MJD to Benson. I was comparing workload - that's all. Dude.
I agree that he looks indecisive this year. That may be just because the holes aren't there this year. I think it makes him look a little slower.doowain said:
Last year, he had a 5.2 ypc in the 21-30 slot. As you pointed out, with only 18 carries this year, it may be a function of a small sample size. Or maybe just crappy OL play.
I mostly agree, but would just like to add that Benson had an insane amount of carries in college. I'm pretty sure MJD didn't have near the same # of carries in college that Benson did(someone correct me if I'm wrong).
this would be very valuable in many dynasty formats. and i think its better than a longshot to turn out well for guys who have room to take a flier on scott. some could consider benson underwhelming. scott has shown intriguing burst. and the coaching staff is likely to turnover.
If only there where any truth to that quote, Looks like Scott has no increase in carries all year.. though he did get 6 carries last week, he has had 6 carries b4.Kitrick Taylor said:
