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Best RB After Chris Johnson in Startup Dynasty (1 Viewer)

Bob Magaw

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johnson, peterson & MJD are (or will be) 25, rice 23

rice could put up westbrook-like, pinball receiving numbers going forward (78-702 receiving played a key role in his 2,000+ total yards in '09). he had 8 TDs (?), and the ravens re-upped mcgahee. he is somewhat reminiscent of westbrook & MJD in terms of build, deceptive power, surreal contact balance, suddenness/burst/instant acceleration, great receiving skills and overall well rounded skill set... in how his career has unfolded so far, as well, westbrook and MJD were in RBBCs when younger, but rice has evolved into a feature RB even sooner. could get better, and may have upside, despite his already impressive (albeit short) pro resume. while soph RBs forte & slaton stumbled badly, like chris johnson, rice exploded in his second year, looking like one of the most talented RBs and playmakers in the league. BAL looks stable with a talented, young QB & OL. boldin (& stallworth) could take receptions away. they could also loosen up the run defense, and allow rice to do more damage in the run game. a more talented and balanced offense could mean more sustained drives (& touches) and red zone visits (scoring opps).

probably not much needs to be said about peterson... he did well with and without favre, so i'm not worried his success is heavily linked to the serial unretirer :shrug: . he set a career high in receptions (edit/add - 43), but still fell a few hundred yards short of rice (& about 700 yards short of chris johnson - about same as MJD - approx. 1,800) in combined yards... only one career receiving TD in three seasons... led the NFL in TDs (18). he has averaged about 1,500 rushing yards and 13 TDs per season. very good OL (& defense), though hutchinson must be getting up there in age. came into the league with injury concerns, but has been durable so far. does have a violent running style, which could shorten his career. as far as his build, he is also higher cut than johnson (dickerson a good comp in many ways), and especially the mighty-mite, munchkin-like MJD & rice, which could make him more susceptible to kill shots (almost impossible to get low on and a leverage advantage against MJD and rice when they are at about waist level of the defender when in a crouch :) ). but peterson is a freak and a physical specimen. in terms of pure running ability, and well rounded RUSHING SKILLS (peterson is not just bigger and stronger but also i think faster with better long speed than MJD and rice... he also has underrated elusiveness, if not as good as his peers at the top)... i think all these guys have exemplary work ethics. peterson is often cited as the hardest working player on his team, dating back to college... coupled with the physical skills and natural talent to be one of the best RBs in league history, that is a potent combo. MIN appear to have one of the most talented, young WR corps in the NFL, with rice, harvin & berrian, which should make it harder to key on peterson.

MJD had a career year after taylor was dealt to NE. he had 53 receptions (edit/add) and 16 TDs (same as chris johnson). the jags were starting two rookies at OT, and (probably related), the offense in general & garrard specifically struggled at times (especially on the road, i think?). garrard has regressed badly from his outstanding '07 campaign (got a pass in '08 when the entire interior OL got blown up before the season even started), and probably needs to be more consistent and help lead the team to more wins (fairly or not to put so much on one player) to remain in the franchise's future plans. del rio is presumably on thin ice, but i have to think a prospective new coaching staff would find a way to get the ball in the hands of their best player. with the OL being so young and with the potential to develope and get better with physical maturation and technical refinement, this might also be viewed as a cause for optimism and upside for MJD. unlike rice, who cedes goal line duty to mcgahee, peterson and MJD are clearly their teams top options there. unlike peterson and like rice, he has good hands and is a more dangerous weapon in the passing game. in a way, MJD has some of the best attributes of peterson and rice (without some of their respective weaknesses). he has the most NFL tenure as a fifth year player, but should have relatively fresh legs, with under 200 carries his first three seasons. he has been very consistent, with less than 10 TDs just once (9), and a career high 15 rushing TDs last year. he has never had less than 40 receptions (career high 62-565 in '08). MSW may be the only functional WR/TE weapon in the passing game, so an upgrade could help MJD (& garrard... or whoever succeeds him?)...

are peterson and MJD clearly better than rice and no brainers (and how do they rate relative to each other)?

if close, does the two year age difference (rice compared to the other three top four RBs) factor in at all?

 
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Just a quick response here, but I'd rather have Peterson than Chris Johnson. The dude rushed for almost 1800 yards his second year like he was taking candy from a baby and it was considered an average season. Then puts up 1400 and 18 in a passing offense the next year.

He has averaged 1800 yards from scrimmage since his rookie year.

CJ3 is great. I'll take AP.

 
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Just a quick responce here, but I'd rather have Peterson than Chris Johnson. The dude rushes for 1800 yards like he was taking candy from a baby and it was considered an average season.
i can appreciate that...guessing johnson would be the consensus here, but could be off?
 
Just a quick responce here, but I'd rather have Peterson than Chris Johnson. The dude rushes for 1800 yards like he was taking candy from a baby and it was considered an average season.
i can appreciate that...guessing johnson would be the consensus here, but could be off?
I updated a little bit above.But no, I don't think you are off. I think the general consensus is CJ at No. 1.After those two though.....I think I would go with Rice over MJD. This isn't based on talent or anything but more on situation. I love Rice in Cam's offense and as long as he is around, I expect over 60 receptions a year from Rice. Add in a few more TD's as he develops as a goal line back and I think he has every chance to outshine MJD with his year end stats. Another guy, if in a better situation, who would be my number 3 or even 2 is S Jackson. I just had to drop his name into the conversation ;)
 
Well I certainly would put CJ #1. I think the style he plays is conducive to him having a little more longevity at that position. Next up is ADP with the biggest reason I think his name and production give you the best trade value. If I had ADP in a dynasty league, which I do, I'd look at dealing him either after the next season of in two seasons. I do have concerns about his ability to hold up long term with the style of play he performs.

 
I think the beauty of drafts this year is that there is no concensus #1. The top 4-5 picks will all have pretty great options.

 
I think the beauty of drafts this year is that there is no concensus #1. The top 4-5 picks will all have pretty great options.
While I agree with the second part, there definitely seems to be a consensus #1.
Yes at this point CJ is the consensus #1. I've seen 5 redraft leagues so far this off season and CJ has gone #1 in each of them. I understand those are redraft but I think CJ's value is higher in Dynasty than redraft mainly due to less wear and tear than ADP and MJD and a style of play that is not as physical as those two. I'm not forgetting Rice I just don't think he's at CJ's level.
 
Where would a healthy Beanie Wells fit into this equation? Assuming the passing offense gets downgraded with Leinart at QB and Whisenhunt goes to more of a ground game Wells could be very productive; maybe not top 5 with Hightower in the equation but it will be interesting to see where his numbers fall at the end of next season.

 
1. MJD

2. Chris Johnson

3. Ray Rice

4. ADP

assuming ppr dynasty. lets just say that if you have any one of these guys you're sittin pretty!

 
great food for thought here. should turn into a great discussion. thanks bob!

i've got to agree with the CJ3 as #1, at this time he's the best back in the league imo and he has the brightest future. the way the titans played to start the season in 09 it wasn't looking good for CJ3, but he capitalized with what he had and came out with a career defining season. the titan's have no where to go but up it seems, and given the way they ended the last season they definitely look to be on the rise.

for the second spot, it's really up in the air for me, but between Rice and MJD. I love them both (actually have them both in my zealots league), but I think that MJD has the slight edge at this time because of his goal line looks. if/when Rice becomes the goal line back for the Ravens, he could take the #2 spot. ADP comes in a close 4th, I just don't see him lasting as long as the other three given his ruthless running style.

all four are pretty even imo. it all comes down to personal preference... but that will make this a great discussion for the shark pool, considering we're a very opinionated group.

 
I actually have Johnson #3 after ADP and MJD. I don't know why you started your thread like that.
i took it as a given that johnson is the consensus #1... possibly wrongly...i haven't referenced any ADP data, and have only a sense from a few early drafts (intuition?).* could also reflect my bias... personally, CJ would be my #1 choice... that said, it won't shock me if peterson or MJD have bigger careers.
 
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I actually have Johnson #3 after ADP and MJD. I don't know why you started your thread like that.
if a poll was started, imo CJ3 would find his way to the top but not by much. i think it's definitely resonable to call him the consensus #1. consensus doesn't mean you have to agree with it, it's within the definition. imo, between these 4, there really isn't a clear cut #1. but given their careers thus far, CJ3 seems to be showing the most promise, again imo. as they say, within the eye of the beholder.
 
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Another quick response:

dynasty ranks

1. Peterson

2. MJD

3. Rice

4. Johnson

Just not seeing the shelf life others are for Johnson.

 
I actually have Johnson #3 after ADP and MJD. I don't know why you started your thread like that.
if a poll was started, imo CJ3 would find his way to the top but not by much. i think it's definitely resonable to call him the consensus #1. consensus doesn't mean you have to agree with it, it's within the definition. imo, between these 4, there really isn't a clear cut #1. but given their careers thus far, CJ3 seems to be showing the most promise, again imo. as they say, within the eye of the beholder.
Agreed, i dont get what this guy(and others) dont understand by consensus. Im not suprised a guy whose screename is ADP threw a fit. Anyway, i would probably take CJ #1, but thats only because of what i could get for him in a trade. I would actually prefer MJD. He is a better pass catcher, and moer importantly, i think he will always be the goalline back. Im not so sure the Titans will continue to use CJ inside the 5 as much as they did last year.My top 4:1. CJ(would draft him there and then trade him)2. MJD3. Ray Rice4. AD(Hes a great runner, but i dont trust his durabilty and fumbling going forward. How much would it hurt AD if they drafted one of the good young RB's in this years draft? I actually might like a couple other RB's as much as him here.)
 
Ask yourself this hypothetically five years ago would you take a 25 year old LT in a dynasty start up number one overall? Yes. Why because of consistency at the position. So why wouldn’t you want AP to start your dynasty league when you know your going to get consistency for the next 3 to 5 years. CJ had a great year last year but I would rather have AP over him if I had a choice. CJ has to prove he can repeat those numbers before he over takes top spot IMO.

 
Ask yourself this hypothetically five years ago would you take a 25 year old LT in a dynasty start up number one overall? Yes. Why because of consistency at the position. So why wouldn’t you want AP to start your dynasty league when you know your going to get consistency for the next 3 to 5 years. CJ had a great year last year but I would rather have AP over him if I had a choice. CJ has to prove he can repeat those numbers before he over takes top spot IMO.
For their careers in standard ppr scoring.Chris Johnson 2008 averaged 16.78 ppg. 2009 averaged 24.93 ppg.Adrian Peterson 2007 averaged 18.42 ppg, 2008 averaged 16.9 ppg, 2009 averaged 20.84 ppg. I don't see where AP is so much more consistent. In AP's 3 years he's done great. In CJ's 2 years he's done great.
 
Ask yourself this hypothetically five years ago would you take a 25 year old LT in a dynasty start up number one overall? Yes. Why because of consistency at the position. So why wouldn’t you want AP to start your dynasty league when you know your going to get consistency for the next 3 to 5 years. CJ had a great year last year but I would rather have AP over him if I had a choice. CJ has to prove he can repeat those numbers before he over takes top spot IMO.
Why does CJ have to prove it again? It's not like he didn't do well in 2008. Don't think CJ has to repaet those numbers in order to be #1 as he outscored ADP by over 100 points in the league i'm in and ADP himself had his best year to date. CJ could fall off a lot and still be the #1 RB this year.
 
Ask yourself this hypothetically five years ago would you take a 25 year old LT in a dynasty start up number one overall? Yes. Why because of consistency at the position. So why wouldn’t you want AP to start your dynasty league when you know your going to get consistency for the next 3 to 5 years. CJ had a great year last year but I would rather have AP over him if I had a choice. CJ has to prove he can repeat those numbers before he over takes top spot IMO.
its been said a few times already, but to reiterate - i think *some* people are afraid of ADP's durability given the way he runs. he's a ruthless runner sacrificing himself and potentially his career every time he touches the ball. i don't know if he can be relied on to put in another 3-5 years. we could be wrong, but it's something to consider when taking your dynasty stud back.fwiw, CJ repeating what he did last year would be amazing... given what he did last year was amazing. that alone probably gets him HOF consideration this early in his career. and once again, that alone makes him a consensus #1.
 
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I don't think people understand how dominant CJ was from the time Vince took the helm. From week 8 on he scored the same as ADP did for the entire season in the scoring we use. Do i think he'll do it again? No. But given how far he was ahead of the 2nd scoring RB he doesn't have to. He could have knocked 500 yards and 5 TDs off his totals and still been #1.

 
I think my (personal preference) list would be like this:

1.M.Drew (I dont know but i love what he brings to the game and how he is built. His low compact frame mixed with power/speed/hands is what does it for me.)

2. CJ3

3. AP (only lower as like someone mentioned above CJ could bring back more in a trade, otherwise its AP #2 for me)

4. Not sure who i go here to be honest....the consensus is Rice and thats not a bad choice at all..

 
i'll admit i jumped the gun without looking at CJ's stats for year one. didn't realize he did that well that year. he is much better than i figured him for but still feel like i would want adp just my preference i guess unless CJ blows up again this year then i'll change my tune.

 
I think you're set with any of the top 4 guys, just a matter of preference.
whats your preference? out of curiousity and to add something to the thread :banned:
If I had the #1 pick I'd probably trade down to #4 if possible and grab the guy who fell. But if I had to pick I'd probably take ADP. Love CJ too but for some reason think Peterson is still the best RB in the game, bar none. Close behind are MJD and Rice. I know most don't think Rice is on the others' talent level, but I've watched him for years now and he has some of the best balance and shiftiness I've ever seen. Ever. He is an outstanding talent - only reason I would probably take MJD over him is Rice will probably split his TDs.
 
MJD- He was finally THE guy this year in Jax and he delivered. MJD is a goaline back that can also catch the ball in the regular offense. Right now, Jax doesn't have a real passing offense so JAX's offense pretty much runs through MJD making him pretty valuable in every format. The one downside in a dynasty to me is he runs hard. That's great that he does but eventually it'll take a toll on him and he'll slow down maybe before the other guys mentioned.

Adrian Peterson- His stock took a hit this year compared to where it has been the past couple years. So for a RB that's as good as he is, that usually means value. Yes, he fumbled the ball too much last year, but the guy still gets you 100 yard games and games with multiple Td's. His negative is he needs to get his confidence back and not lose the ball. He was actually taken out of the NO game after fumbling so many times and then they brought someone else in to fumble after him. So he needs to work on holding the ball and still being able to run as hard as he's capable of which I think he will.

Ray Rice- He's younger than the other two so that always is a plus in dynasty. In PPR leagues, he is to me the NO. 2 guy I'd draft overall. I saw a guy come into his own last year and I can't say I see a reason why he shouldn't take another step forward. If he would have gotten all the TD's that the backup RB's did in a few games that were blowouts, his Stats in the TD department would have been better. Out of the 3 backs, I feel more confident in that we haven't seen this guys best year yet where in it's possible we've seen MJD or ADP's best year already as a pro (not that they still can't have solid years).

The year before last, we all liked Chris Johnson but were hestitant to draft too early because of all the TD's that were vultured from him. The same can possibly be said for Rice. Yes, it looks like going into the season that he may not get all the TD's so we're hestitant to draft over a few of these big boys but if you could imagine Ray Rice getting all the Td's in Baltimore ( I mean the vast majority, not 100 percent) then he could really be in for a monster year.

So for me, although I like all 3 I'd take Ray Rice 2nd in a PPR league, followed by MJD and then Adrian Peterson.

 
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i'll admit i jumped the gun without looking at CJ's stats for year one. didn't realize he did that well that year. he is much better than i figured him for but still feel like i would want adp just my preference i guess unless CJ blows up again this year then i'll change my tune.
Had Chris Johnson not shared with LenDale in '08 he would have challenged yet another NFL record, most rushing yards in first 2 seasons - 3,913 by Eric Dickerson. As it stands, CJ2K is 3rd all-time (3,234) behind Dickerson & Edgerrin James (3,262). Adrian Peterson is behind Johnson at 3,101 in his first 2 years. Chris Johnson is #1 in any format -- redraft, dynasty, triple-toe-loop auction- -- going into 2010 and I'm glad to see Magaw isn't getting cute on this board with fishing expeditions, ranking CJ #3 or (gulp) #5. It just wastes valuable cyberspace. And who said MJD is #1 in dynasty? The little fart's already got 1,200 career touches including returns & playoffs. He's averaged less than 3.5 per carry in 11 of his last 26 games. You're on cough medicine.
 
I don't think people understand how dominant CJ was from the time Vince took the helm. From week 8 on he scored the same as ADP did for the entire season in the scoring we use. Do i think he'll do it again? No. But given how far he was ahead of the 2nd scoring RB he doesn't have to. He could have knocked 500 yards and 5 TDs off his totals and still been #1.
good points. :hot:
 
I think my (personal preference) list would be like this:1.M.Drew (I dont know but i love what he brings to the game and how he is built. His low compact frame mixed with power/speed/hands is what does it for me.)2. CJ3 3. AP (only lower as like someone mentioned above CJ could bring back more in a trade, otherwise its AP #2 for me)4. Not sure who i go here to be honest....the consensus is Rice and thats not a bad choice at all..
the tao of RB...MJD may best represent the middle path/way?like peterson, good bet to have top three rushing numbers, get about 1,600-2,000 combined yards and be a sledge hammer around the goal line...like rice, good bet to be top three in receptions (50-60+?) and receiving yards among RBs...
 
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I think you're set with any of the top 4 guys, just a matter of preference.
whats your preference? out of curiousity and to add something to the thread :no:
If I had the #1 pick I'd probably trade down to #4 if possible and grab the guy who fell. But if I had to pick I'd probably take ADP. Love CJ too but for some reason think Peterson is still the best RB in the game, bar none. Close behind are MJD and Rice. I know most don't think Rice is on the others' talent level, but I've watched him for years now and he has some of the best balance and shiftiness I've ever seen. Ever. He is an outstanding talent - only reason I would probably take MJD over him is Rice will probably split his TDs.
have the #2 in an upcoming dynasty start up (hot route)... i agree #4 seems to be the ideal spot (if you are OK with rice - otherwise #3)... assuming we keep it (& chris johnson is off the board - already stated by #1 if he keeps it... or maybe a smoke screen :confused: )...i think the choice will be between peterson and MJD... still undecided, possibly leaning towards MJD (#2 in this scoring system last year... peterson and rice a notch below, and close together, within a few points of each other)...i didn't check, but is MJD (& possibly rice?) more consistent than peterson? if the latter has a bad rushing game, he probably has a bad game (luckily, not too many of those)... whereas MJD more likely to counterbalance a poor rushing effort with some numbers in the passing game?
 
I don't have the answers Bob but I wanted to simply thank you. What a pleasure to read what you write and your threads are always worth checking into. I enjoy the way you present the information. It's not bias, it simply states what is true and allows the reader to come to their own conclusions and I really appreciate that.

Cheers Daddy-O

 
i'll admit i jumped the gun without looking at CJ's stats for year one. didn't realize he did that well that year. he is much better than i figured him for but still feel like i would want adp just my preference i guess unless CJ blows up again this year then i'll change my tune.
Had Chris Johnson not shared with LenDale in '08 he would have challenged yet another NFL record, most rushing yards in first 2 seasons - 3,913 by Eric Dickerson. As it stands, CJ2K is 3rd all-time (3,234) behind Dickerson & Edgerrin James (3,262). Adrian Peterson is behind Johnson at 3,101 in his first 2 years. Chris Johnson is #1 in any format -- redraft, dynasty, triple-toe-loop auction- -- going into 2010 and I'm glad to see Magaw isn't getting cute on this board with fishing expeditions, ranking CJ #3 or (gulp) #5. It just wastes valuable cyberspace. And who said MJD is #1 in dynasty? The little fart's already got 1,200 career touches including returns & playoffs. He's averaged less than 3.5 per carry in 11 of his last 26 games. You're on cough medicine.
Now this is :goodposting:
 
i'll admit i jumped the gun without looking at CJ's stats for year one. didn't realize he did that well that year. he is much better than i figured him for but still feel like i would want adp just my preference i guess unless CJ blows up again this year then i'll change my tune.
Had Chris Johnson not shared with LenDale in '08 he would have challenged yet another NFL record, most rushing yards in first 2 seasons - 3,913 by Eric Dickerson. As it stands, CJ2K is 3rd all-time (3,234) behind Dickerson & Edgerrin James (3,262). Adrian Peterson is behind Johnson at 3,101 in his first 2 years. Chris Johnson is #1 in any format -- redraft, dynasty, triple-toe-loop auction- -- going into 2010 and I'm glad to see Magaw isn't getting cute on this board with fishing expeditions, ranking CJ #3 or (gulp) #5. It just wastes valuable cyberspace. And who said MJD is #1 in dynasty? The little fart's already got 1,200 career touches including returns & playoffs. He's averaged less than 3.5 per carry in 11 of his last 26 games. You're on cough medicine.
9.8Have to take off just a nudge since you have a big rooting interest here...that said that is a fantastic post and really liked the use of "wastes valuable cyberspace"...that's funny.

 
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another way to parse this...

peterson has been a feature RB for three seasons... rushes - 238, 363 & 315 from '07-'09 (FBG scoring - 3, 3 & 2)

johnson for two seasons (?)... rushes - 251 & 358 in '08-'09 (scoring - 11 & 1)... we saw what he is capable of when when he no longer shared with the since rendered completely superfluous lendale white...

MJD for one season (?)... rushes - 312 in '09, 166, 167 & 197 from '06-'08 (scoring - 3... 8, 13 & 9 in RBBC three prior years)

rice for one season... rushes 254 in '09, 107 in '08 (scoring - 4... 55 as a rookie)

peterson's scoring consistency has been remarkable...

as to his physical style... walter payton lasted a long time and made his style work for him... sometimes he was the aggressor, initiated contact and delivered the blow (more likely with DBs than DL & LBs - he was smart about it :thumbup: ) on the tackler instead of the other way around... he was capable of punishing and intimidating opponents (BAD DEFENDER!)... as one of the greatest of all time, payton is by definition an exception... but peterson is indisputably a rare, special talent himself... aside from durability/longevity questions, which are ultimately speculative, we can speak to the present - so far, so good. if he manages to stay healthy, he will inevitably belong in the conversation for greatest RBs in league history...

but again, peterson is a bit higher cut than payton (sanders, smith, etc), and is more like dickerson, who burned brightly, but had a shorter career. jim brown was a big dude, capable of punishing defenders, and looked like he could definitely have played a few more years, but opted to go out on top (like sanders)...

peterson could be a hybrid between brown and dickerson (though smaller than both)... possibly more resilient than the latter, and cast more in the mold of the fomer?

 
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I think you're set with any of the top 4 guys, just a matter of preference.
whats your preference? out of curiousity and to add something to the thread :goodposting:
If I had the #1 pick I'd probably trade down to #4 if possible and grab the guy who fell. But if I had to pick I'd probably take ADP. Love CJ too but for some reason think Peterson is still the best RB in the game, bar none. Close behind are MJD and Rice. I know most don't think Rice is on the others' talent level, but I've watched him for years now and he has some of the best balance and shiftiness I've ever seen. Ever. He is an outstanding talent - only reason I would probably take MJD over him is Rice will probably split his TDs.
I don't think too many guys with the 4 would be willing to give up much to move to the one.

 
this is a great topic, Bob. The follow up question for me is which RB would be the fifth, assuming these (CJ, ADP, Rice, & MJD) are gone?

 
I'm taking Rice before MJD and MJD before Peterson (I have them all valued similarly) because of what I expect to happen later in the draft. I expect others to over value RB and me be left with a hodge podge of unknowns for RB's 2-5 while stacked at QB and WR. I think Rice and then MJD have longer remaining shelf lives than AD, at a top level anyway, so I want them as my anchors and in that order.

Johnson's above all of them because he's just that special, I think he tails off before Rice and MJD but he's going to be so much better in the meantime I can't justify knocking him down.

If I'm drafting outside the top 4 I think I am going to have problems at RB, I don't want Turner, Gore, DeAng, or SJax (all have falling off a cliff soon potential), it's too early for the young RB's with upside (J Stew, S Greene) and I have a lot of doubts about Mendenhall and Charles. In the end I'm probably going QB or WR and targeting Benson on the way back.

 
I think you're set with any of the top 4 guys, just a matter of preference.
whats your preference? out of curiousity and to add something to the thread :lmao:
If I had the #1 pick I'd probably trade down to #4 if possible and grab the guy who fell. But if I had to pick I'd probably take ADP. Love CJ too but for some reason think Peterson is still the best RB in the game, bar none. Close behind are MJD and Rice. I know most don't think Rice is on the others' talent level, but I've watched him for years now and he has some of the best balance and shiftiness I've ever seen. Ever. He is an outstanding talent - only reason I would probably take MJD over him is Rice will probably split his TDs.
I don't think too many guys with the 4 would be willing to give up much to move to the one.
Which, if you viewed all four equally then "not much" would be what you'd need to make it favorable.
 
Just a quick response here, but I'd rather have Peterson than Chris Johnson. The dude rushed for almost 1800 yards his second year like he was taking candy from a baby and it was considered an average season. Then puts up 1400 and 18 in a passing offense the next year. He has averaged 1800 yards from scrimmage since his rookie year. CJ3 is great. I'll take AP.
So what....CJ2K ran for 2000 yards his second year, and broke M. Faulks all purpose yards....I'm sorry but no argument right now for taking anyone higher then CJ2K at any point.
 
this is a great topic, Bob. The follow up question for me is which RB would be the fifth, assuming these (CJ, ADP, Rice, & MJD) are gone?
Given what I've seen from J. Stewart on the first 405 carries of his career as well as the fact that he turns just 23 years old on Sunday - he'd probably be 5th for me.
 
Where would a healthy Beanie Wells fit into this equation? Assuming the passing offense gets downgraded with Leinart at QB and Whisenhunt goes to more of a ground game Wells could be very productive; maybe not top 5 with Hightower in the equation but it will be interesting to see where his numbers fall at the end of next season.
No comparison from Beanie to CJ2k, and to be honest, I would be insulted if I was CJ at this statement.Did beanie even run for 1000 yards his rookie year, cuz I know CJ2K did.
 
1. CJ2k, he will light it up for many years to come, and not just a great back, and explosive unstoppable back.

2. Rice, a younger more ellusive version of MJD, with a better line and a better team.

3. MJD, he is just darn good. More of a TD guy then a yardage guy tho in most formats, but he gets his.

4. ADP, never been sold on him really, yes he is goo, very good, but sir fumbles-a-lot dont have the upside anymoe as the other 3 guys, he already reached his pinnacle I believe.

5. Gore, if a ppr he will catch his, and has the potential to be an elite back every year.

6. DWill, people always forget the guy who got hurt, this guy is starting over a stud already, so what does that make DWill? A SUPER STUD. (If not for JStew this guy would be top 3 easy, maybe #2)

7. Turner, he is a real big force, top 3 if he caught passes.

8. SJAX, he will always catch passes, and his upside is still there and has talent beyond others, dont forget just 2 years ago he was discussed as the #1 overall pick with LT and ADP.

After that it starts to be even more of a matter of opinion.

 
Where would a healthy Beanie Wells fit into this equation? Assuming the passing offense gets downgraded with Leinart at QB and Whisenhunt goes to more of a ground game Wells could be very productive; maybe not top 5 with Hightower in the equation but it will be interesting to see where his numbers fall at the end of next season.
No comparison from Beanie to CJ2k, and to be honest, I would be insulted if I was CJ at this statement.Did beanie even run for 1000 yards his rookie year, cuz I know CJ2K did.
It's not unusual that Beanie didn't rush for 1,000 yards as a rookie, being that he entered the season coming off an injury and he is on a pass happy offense.
 
I own both CJ & MJD in my keeper. I would take CJ at #1 & AP at #2 then MJD #3. I'm actually hoping to move MJD this offseason for AP or maybe Rice.

 

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