Biden’s daughter allegedly kept a diary saying her father showered with her saying "probably not appropriate" (1 Viewer)

[parasaurolophus]

Still don't agree with you, but you also undercut your point by going for that 3rd example.   IMO

I think you probably just misunderstood me. 

Those books were ok to have in the library.

 

[sho nuff]

Actually there were several other candidates.  Narrowing it down to two is why we have what we have.  But this just proves the whole me too and vilifying Kavanaugh mantra was a farce.  At some point you have to have principles. 

After the primaries…there were 2 viable candidates.  

Prior to that…I was definitely not supporting Biden. Did not want him as the candidate.

And anyone who has supported Trump at all or complained about Kavanaugh but now coming out to try and point hypocrisy…is also pointing out theor own (see Joe’s thread…2 sides…same coin).  
 

I agree its nice to have principles…mine took a hit to get rid of someone who seems even worse a person (and IMO a worse POTUS still).

 

[Stealthycat]

And anyone who has supported Trump at all or complained about Kavanaugh but now coming out to try and point hypocrisy…is also pointing out theor own (see Joe’s thread…2 sides…same coin).

Kavanaugh had inappropriate showers with his young daughter?  No - he was a victim of false accusations, that's what happened there.

Trump? He was head hunted everyday, and all that came out about him was talked about/discussed and rammed through media everyday

For weeks it was daily media on Grab Them quotes ... if that was news? Then Biden showering with his daughter should be as well

 

[sho nuff]

Kavanaugh had inappropriate showers with his young daughter?  No - he was a victim of false accusations, that's what happened there.

Trump? He was head hunted everyday, and all that came out about him was talked about/discussed and rammed through media everyday

For weeks it was daily media on Grab Them quotes ... if that was news? Then Biden showering with his daughter should be as well

I believe we are talking, in that context, about credible accusations.

 

[Stealthycat]

I believe we are talking, in that context, about credible accusations.

like Russia and Trump? like Kavanaugh doing something wrong 25 years earlier? those accusations were media driven 100% factual truths for months and even years ....... do you know how many people STILL believe Russia/Trump and Kavanaugh accusations ?

credible doesn't seem to matter - what matters is people believe the accusations 

 

[pinkham13]

From me she doesn’t.  But I’m also not ready to jump on the Biden is a pedo train either.  If you’ve read any of my posts in here on this topic you’ll understand my point very clear.  In fact I quoted you in a recent one. 

Whatever your feelings are The NY Times confirmed the handwritten pages came from her diary. She said she was molested in the 100 page journal. If you were old enough to remember showers with Dad it was definitely inappropriate to say the least. Funny how the media buried this so far down that you never heard of it till now.https://heavy.com/news/ashley-biden-diary/

 

[dkp993]

Whatever your feelings are The NY Times confirmed the handwritten pages came from her diary. She said she was molested in the 100 page journal. If you were old enough to remember showers with Dad it was definitely inappropriate to say the least. Funny how the media buried this so far down that you never heard of it till now.https://heavy.com/news/ashley-biden-diary/

First off the pages don’t say “She said she was molested”, it says… “The pages published by the National File contain this line, “Was I molested. I think so – I can’t remember specifics but I do remember trauma.”   Those are different things.   

Secondly the next line of the article reads “The person the writer is accusing of molestation, if they even remembered it, is not mentioned in the pages.”

I realize you are anxious to pin this on Biden, and maybe he did something inappropriate, but it’s FAR from definite.  The only mention of her Dad is the showers where she also says “probably not appropriate”.  That reads like nothing inappropriate happened in the showers, it’s just the act of the showering itself.  She also talks of not liking going to someone’s house, being sexualized with another female, having sex at a young age, etc but no where it does not imply her dad molested her.  

I have no vested interest in defending Biden, I didn’t vote for him, think he’s doing a crap job as the POTUS and am not a Democrat.  But as I said I’m my previous posts I think we should be very cautious about throwing serious accusations like that around, for anyone.  

 

[GoBirds]

Whatever your feelings are The NY Times confirmed the handwritten pages came from her diary. She said she was molested in the 100 page journal. If you were old enough to remember showers with Dad it was definitely inappropriate to say the least. Funny how the media buried this so far down that you never heard of it till now.https://heavy.com/news/ashley-biden-diary/

There are a lot of terrible things about Biden but this has to be the worst. Disgusting. 

 

[GoBirds]

like Russia and Trump? like Kavanaugh doing something wrong 25 years earlier? those accusations were media driven 100% factual truths for months and even years ....... do you know how many people STILL believe Russia/Trump and Kavanaugh accusations ?

credible doesn't seem to matter - what matters is people believe the accusations 

Seriously, credibility doesn’t matter to them just does it fit the narrative as your examples show. 

 

[Stealthycat]

Biden can't address this - he will have to call his daughter a liar or admit what that diary says is true. She had a lot of things to deal with, its really sad the world is seeing her personal thoughts and feelings etc. I mean that, but its in the open now and the implications can't be ignored, not after we've seen Biden sniffing/touching like he's been known to do

“Hyper-sexualized @ a young age,” the page reads. “What is this due to? Was I molested. I think so – I can’t remember specifics but I do remember trauma – I remember not liking the (last name’s) house; I remember somewhat being sexualized with (another female); I remember having sex with friends @ a young age; showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate); being turned on when I wasn’t suppose to be.”

The page also refers to “overhearing parents having sex” and claims, “my mother not emotionally available. My father was – message – I could get love from men.”

 

[Nugget]

Biden can't address this - he will have to call his daughter a liar or admit what that diary says is true. She had a lot of things to deal with, its really sad the world is seeing her personal thoughts and feelings etc. I mean that, but its in the open now and the implications can't be ignored, not after we've seen Biden sniffing/touching like he's been known to do

“Hyper-sexualized @ a young age,” the page reads. “What is this due to? Was I molested. I think so – I can’t remember specifics but I do remember trauma – I remember not liking the (last name’s) house; I remember somewhat being sexualized with (another female); I remember having sex with friends @ a young age; showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate); being turned on when I wasn’t suppose to be.”

The page also refers to “overhearing parents having sex” and claims, “my mother not emotionally available. My father was – message – I could get love from men.”

Why are you willing to believe Ashley’s trauma without specifics but not Christine Blasey Ford?

 

[dkp993]

Why are you willing to believe Ashley’s trauma without specifics but not Christine Blasey Ford?

There’s an answer here somewhere, I just can’t seems to find it, hmmm wonder what it could be….

 

[(HULK)]

If Ivanka Trumps diary said that her dad took inappropriate showers with her the MSM would have lost its mind and this board as well, we’d be on page 25 already.

Didn't like 17 separate women accuse Trump of rape and/or sexual assault?

Wasn't there a video/audio clip of Trump telling Billy Bush that he can sexually assault women at will and get away with it?

The media WOULD be all over it, sure, but that's because of the already existing plethora of evidence on the topic in regards to Trump. What other stuff is there about Biden? Some people think he's hugged some kids weirdly or something?

It's apples and oranges. I've showered with my daughters, that doesn't make me a kid toucher though.

 

[(HULK)]

1)  Can we remove the word "allegedly" from the title of this thread.  Does anyone NOT believe the diary is authentic?

2)  If you write in your diary that showers with your father might have played a role in your sex addiction later in life and you being hyper sexualized at a young age, it's likely those showers were beyond inappropriate. 

I love how you're so certain it was inappropriate when the person who experienced it and documented it in her journal wasn't certain (hence, the "maybe/probably" qualifier).

Wait, I mean, I don't love it. I hate it. You're pushing an agenda, and twisting facts to suit it. Stop.

 

[(HULK)]

Why are you posting a Vox article?  I didn't talk about the media.  Period.  Dude got 80-90 million votes.  If your assertion is that it was covered properly by the media that only reinforces that it was blown off.

Even if Biden DID rape that one accuser, he was still arguably less rapey than his opponent, so I don't understand your comment.

 

[Stealthycat]

Why are you willing to believe Ashley’s trauma without specifics but not Christine Blasey Ford?

that's a good question - as it was all going down .... I felt/thought Ford's accusations were politically motived, purely and 100% and only came out when they needed dirt on Kavanaugh and I believe I was right after the FBI reports etc.

this is different - I read the diary early today .... Ashley has/had some serious issues, mentally and with drug addictions etc. That diary shouldn't ever have been published but it was, and the accusations need addressed.

If Joe calls her a liar, then we'll be faced with having to believe him, or her. If he doesn't address this, then yes, I'm probably going to say he's guilty simply because he won't talk about it.

Kavanaugh was very defiant, very "I did NOT do that" .... Biden has said nothing

 

[KarmaPolice]

There’s an answer here somewhere, I just can’t seems to find it, hmmm wonder what it could be….

It's almost as though it's as simple as looking at the letter after their name for him and others.  

 

[Nugget]

that's a good question - as it was all going down .... I felt/thought Ford's accusations were politically motived, purely and 100% and only came out when they needed dirt on Kavanaugh and I believe I was right after the FBI reports etc.

this is different - I read the diary early today .... Ashley has/had some serious issues, mentally and with drug addictions etc. That diary shouldn't ever have been published but it was, and the accusations need addressed.

If Joe calls her a liar, then we'll be faced with having to believe him, or her. If he doesn't address this, then yes, I'm probably going to say he's guilty simply because he won't talk about it.

Kavanaugh was very defiant, very "I did NOT do that" .... Biden has said nothing

Thanks for the response. I am glad that more people will release there is no perfect victim, that memories are not always 100%, that trauma is real.  I’m not sure when Ashley wrote this, where she was in her process, and whom she was sharing this with. I don’t know if Ashley has come forth to talk about the diary or clarify her comments. I hope people continue to listen to her and others. 

 

[Nugget]

I wish that Ashley had been able to share her story if she wanted on her own terms. To have your diary stolen and sold to a political operative weeks before an election is horrible. I’ve never heard of people leaving laptops and diaries behind at repair shops and AirBnB’s - let alone both kids of a presidential candidate that are recovered in October 2020 by Project Veritas and Rudy Giuliani. 

 

[HellToupee]

I wish that Ashley had been able to share her story if she wanted on her own terms. To have your diary stolen and sold to a political operative weeks before an election is horrible. I’ve never heard of people leaving laptops and diaries behind at repair shops and AirBnB’s - let alone both kids of a presidential candidate that are recovered in October 2020 by Project Veritas and Rudy Giuliani. 

Lots of people make stupid and reckless decisions in the grip of drug addiction everyday 

 

[sho nuff]

like Russia and Trump? like Kavanaugh doing something wrong 25 years earlier? those accusations were media driven 100% factual truths for months and even years ....... do you know how many people STILL believe Russia/Trump and Kavanaugh accusations ?

credible doesn't seem to matter - what matters is people believe the accusations 

Yes…like the actual connections to Russia and Trump (and his campaign) outlined in an actual investigation.   And yes…the accusation against Kavanaugh was as credible an accusation as those some of you push upon democrats.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

All the Biden dudes busting out whataboutisms today 

 

[Stealthycat]

Yes…like the actual connections to Russia and Trump (and his campaign) outlined in an actual investigation.   And yes…the accusation against Kavanaugh was as credible an accusation as those some of you push upon democrats.

and we (the nation) investigated Trump/Russi

and we (nation) investigated Ford/Kavanaugh

don't you think we need to investigate this too ?

 

[Nugget]

Lots of people make stupid and reckless decisions in the grip of drug addiction everyday 

And yet I can’t think of any other time something like this has happened. And both to Biden in October 2020. If you can give some more everyday examples, I’d love to see them. 

 

[sho nuff]

and we (the nation) investigated Trump/Russi

and we (nation) investigated Ford/Kavanaugh

don't you think we need to investigate this too ?

Sure…go ahead….what are you going to investigate?  A diary?  No…no actual accusation there.

Tara Reade?  Go ahead.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Biden showers with his daughter and some are more upset that the story got out. 

 

[BladeRunner]

Biden showers with his daughter and some are more upset that the story got out. 

Right?!?!?

And yet, all it took for Kavanaugh was a 40 year old, uncorroborated accusation and some tears for them to go all in with absolutely ZERO doubt.

Whatever happened to #believeAllWomen?

 

[HellToupee]

And yet I can’t think of any other time something like this has happened. And both to Biden in October 2020. If you can give some more everyday examples, I’d love to see them. 

I don’t either. Remember now that Hunter is a degenerate and Ashley seems to have other problems to go along with her addiction. 

 

[Nugget]

Right?!?!?

And yet, all it took for Kavanaugh was a 40 year old, uncorroborated accusation and some tears for them to go all in with absolutely ZERO doubt.

Whatever happened to #believeAllWomen?

Is someone suggesting not to believe Ashley? I am not doubting her, but I’m not quite clear what she is saying. Trying to infer from someone’s personal diary seems like it could be tricky. I still haven’t figured out the timeline. 

 

[Stealthycat]

Sure…go ahead….what are you going to investigate?  A diary?  No…no actual accusation there.

Tara Reade?  Go ahead.

you agree then that, as a nation, we investigated Trump and Russia, Trump and Stormy, Trump and taxes, Kavanaugh and Ford .... we should investigate Biden showering with his daughter and all that her diary implicated because we might have a pedophile/child molester as President

I'd think we need to know that answer, I think its important

 

[sho nuff]

you agree then that, as a nation, we investigated Trump and Russia, Trump and Stormy, Trump and taxes, Kavanaugh and Ford .... we should investigate Biden showering with his daughter and all that her diary implicated because we might have a pedophile/child molester as President

I'd think we need to know that answer, I think its important

The campaign yes…and found quite a bit.

Stormy…I believe the hush money probe was dropped.

Tax issues…I believe there are still some cases involving Trump Org out there.   

Those are/were very much necessary yes.

Kavanaugh and Ford?  Investigated?  Not really…(a confirmation isn’t an investigation) but not a big deal to go further.

Her diary doesn’t implicate any pedophile or child molestation by the POTUS.

 

[dkp993]

you agree then that, as a nation, we investigated Trump and Russia, Trump and Stormy, Trump and taxes, Kavanaugh and Ford .... we should investigate Biden showering with his daughter and all that her diary implicated because we might have a pedophile/child molester as President

I'd think we need to know that answer, I think its important

She DID NOT accuse her dad of molestation.  Full stop.  She isn’t accusing anything in fact.  Stormy, Kavanagh and Russia all accused people of something and were attempting to hold them accountable. That is not happening here.  Until then there is nothing to do.  

 

[AAABatteries]

Even if Biden DID rape that one accuser, he was still arguably less rapey than his opponent, so I don't understand your comment.

Sounds like a fantastic political ad to run against Trump.

Biden 2024: I’m the less rapey one.

 

[Stealthycat]

She DID NOT accuse her dad of molestation.  Full stop.  She isn’t accusing anything in fact.  Stormy, Kavanagh and Russia all accused people of something and were attempting to hold them accountable. That is not happening here.  Until then there is nothing to do.  

you're right, she didn't accuse, she stated matter of fact - read the context

https://www.docdroid.net/AHRA5wJ/alleged-ashley-biden-diary-full-release-nf-wm-rev2-pdf#page=25

and its hard to read - she's got a lot of demons

 

[Stealthycat]

Her diary doesn’t implicate any pedophile or child molestation by the POTUS.

I disagree, read the context of how she was writing/referring

https://www.docdroid.net/AHRA5wJ/alleged-ashley-biden-diary-full-release-nf-wm-rev2-pdf#page=25

 

[KarmaPolice]

you're right, she didn't accuse, she stated matter of fact - read the context

https://www.docdroid.net/AHRA5wJ/alleged-ashley-biden-diary-full-release-nf-wm-rev2-pdf#page=25

and its hard to read - she's got a lot of demons

Can't be bothered to read 1/2 the links and info people give you in these threads, but of course you've taken the time to read Biden's daughter's diary. 

 

[sho nuff]

I disagree, read the context of how she was writing/referring

https://www.docdroid.net/AHRA5wJ/alleged-ashley-biden-diary-full-release-nf-wm-rev2-pdf#page=25

Ive read it…she does not infer or accuse Joe Biden of molesting her…

The context of saying she was probably molested was not when discussing her father.  There is zero context there to show she was accusing him of that.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Biden is creepy.  Why would any of this be shocking?  The dude skinny dipped in front of female secret service agents.  

 

[Summer Wheat]

Biden is creepy.  Why would any of this be shocking?  The dude skinny dipped in front of female secret service agents.  

Biden likes kids on his lap.

Biden has a long history of creepiness.

 

[sho nuff]

Creepy does not equal molesting pedophile.

HTH

 

[KarmaPolice]

Creepy does not equal molesting pedophile.

HTH

That's the point for me in this thread and the DQ thread.  Molester, pedophile, etc.  These are terms that should be used specifically and with certainty.  

Using terms excessively when it doesn't apply like pedo or racist, and they start to lose meaning.  

 

[knowledge dropper]

Biden likes kids on his lap.

Biden has a long history of creepiness.

Having his shirt unbuttoned to his belly button doesn’t help his defense either.  

 

[(HULK)]

Sounds like a fantastic political ad to run against Trump.

Biden 2024: I’m the less rapey one.

I will sacrifice 100 goats to keep BOTH of them off of the next ballot.

 

[(HULK)]

As messed up as Biden's kids are, I'm concerned about his job as America's Grandpa right now.

Honestly, he kinda sucks. I'll take his suckage 1000 times over another minute of Trump and his quest to end democracy though.

Just for once, I don't want to be picking between the lesser of two evils at the voting booth. Just once.

 

[quick-hands]

As messed up as Biden's kids are, I'm concerned about his job as America's Grandpa right now.

Honestly, he kinda sucks. I'll take his suckage 1000 times over another minute of Trump and his quest to end democracy though.

Just for once, I don't want to be picking between the lesser of two evils at the voting booth. Just once.

DeSantis hears HULKS call.

 

[Stealthycat]

Can't be bothered to read 1/2 the links and info people give you in these threads, but of course you've taken the time to read Biden's daughter's diary. 

you can't really have an opinion if you don't read/look into the things discussed IMO

of course I looked and read and tried to see the validity - you didn't ?

 

[Stealthycat]

Ive read it…she does not infer or accuse Joe Biden of molesting her…

The context of saying she was probably molested was not when discussing her father.  There is zero context there to show she was accusing him of that.

you're in denial

 

[dkp993]

you can't really have an opinion if you don't read/look into the things discussed IMO

of course I looked and read and tried to see the validity - you didn't ?

@Stealthycat. I’m not clicking on that unknown link you provided but unless it provides different quotes then what I did here below yesterday my thoughts below stand.

First off the pages don’t say “She said she was molested”, it says… “The pages published by the National File contain this line, “Was I molested. I think so – I can’t remember specifics but I do remember trauma.”   Those are different things.   

Secondly the next line of the article reads “The person the writer is accusing of molestation, if they even remembered it, is not mentioned in the pages.”

I realize you are anxious to pin this on Biden, and maybe he did something inappropriate, but it’s FAR from definite.  The only mention of her Dad is the showers where she also says “probably not appropriate”.  That reads like nothing inappropriate happened in the showers, it’s just the act of the showering itself.  She also talks of not liking going to someone’s house, being sexualized with another female, having sex at a young age, etc but no where it does not imply her dad molested her.  

I have no vested interest in defending Biden, I didn’t vote for him, think he’s doing a crap job as the POTUS and am not a Democrat.  But as I said I’m my previous posts I think we should be very cautious about throwing serious accusations like that around, for anyone.  

 

[sho nuff]

you're in denial

You seem to be seeing what you want to see to try and shown some sort of democrat hypocrisy.  Because no context in that diary makes those words accusing Joe Biden of molesting his daughter.

 

[KarmaPolice]

you can't really have an opinion if you don't read/look into the things discussed IMO

of course I looked and read and tried to see the validity - you didn't ?

No, I didn't.   In general this tabloid-ish info about politicians doesn't interest me a alot, and specifically when I did try to scan for some decent info, all I found was sketchy sources and sites.  

And spare us with the first part of your post.  You have strong opinions on all sorts of stuff and don't bother to read and digest links and info.