Biden taking a hit in the polls per liberal media sources... (1 Viewer)

[dkp993]

Yeah, i know.  Im the one who said that.

I extended it another 6 months.

Oh I know you did. I just didn’t wanna call you out. Wasn’t trying to put you on blast.  

The great thing about your position is you can just go ahead and keep extending it and extending it and extending it.  

 

[Rubiobot]

Oh I know you did. I just didn’t wanna call you out. Wasn’t trying to put you on blast.  

The great thing about your position is you can just go ahead and keep extending it and extending it and extending it.  

Kind of like the date for releasing the bogus forensic audit report. 

 

[Max Power]

I've never seen a group cheering a turd not being flushed down the toilet like this. 

 

[Rubiobot]

I've never seen a group cheering a turd not being flushed down the toilet like this. 

What?

 

[BladeRunner]

Oh I know you did. I just didn’t wanna call you out. Wasn’t trying to put you on blast.  

The great thing about your position is you can just go ahead and keep extending it and extending it and extending it.  

Right?  Eventually I will be right.  win-win. 

 

[dkp993]

Right?  Eventually I will be right.  win-win. 

Maybe.  But I honestly don’t think so.  I think Biden gets propped up for the rest of his term just like Reagan did at the end. I also think the Democrats made a massive mistake with her as she’s a horrible candidate and has no shot at 2024. 

 

[Mile High]

Maybe.  But I honestly don’t think so.  I think Biden gets propped up for the rest of his term just like Reagan did at the end. I also think the Democrats made a massive mistake with her as she’s a horrible candidate and has no shot at 2024. 

In this political environment it's probably better to run with a new candidate over any current VP. They won't be carrying as much baggage. 

 

[DaVinci]

I've never seen a group cheering a turd not being flushed down the toilet like this. 

Are you referring to Trump supporters or Biden supporters? Because I could see it either way.

 

[GordonGekko]

In this political environment it's probably better to run with a new candidate over any current VP. They won't be carrying as much baggage. 

That's actually poor long term political strategy by the DNC. There's no way they actually do that.

1) Being the sitting Vice President provides many distinct advantages in an election cycle.  While this is normally a situation where being the actual sitting President is the advantage, this scenario from a resource base perspective is still true.

2) By pulling away from Harris, DNC HQ and the DNC Super Delegates are openly admitting their mistake. They are already going to lose 2024 to Nikki Haley and/or Ron De Santis. The 2022 mid terms are projected to flip Red. Pulling away from Harris has a massive down the ticket impact. What's more dangerous to the establishment Democrats?  Nikki Haley as POTUS or Nikki Haley as POTUS with a Super Majority?

3) By pushing someone else forward ( Who would it be?), they are burning out a potential contender for 2028. Mitt Romney had zero chance to beat Obama. He was sent up to lose. The GOP knew he was going to lose. But they didn't want to burn down one of their real prospects. They didn't want to burn down one of their real long term established hitters. Romney existed to as a placeholder to push to hold as many GOP interests as possible in that cycle.

Who will replace Harris? The contenders from 2020, people who actual got some kind of delegate support included Warren, Klobuchar, Buttigieg, Sanders and Gabbard.  The last two were railroaded by their own party. Gabbard no longer holds office ( Smart of her to walk away) and Sanders is too old and has been turfed too often.  Warren was railroaded and self inflicted the Pocahontas Scandal. Klobuchar will, no doubt, go to war with anyone and none of the establishment Democrats want that and she would be difficult to replace where she is now heading up several major powerful committees in Congress. They could sacrifice Buttigieg but the way things are shaping up, they might need him for 2028.

You can't just hit "reset" on POTUS contenders. It takes YEARS and LOTS OF MONEY to build a contender and they are groomed and established over time. It takes time to build relationships and to win delegates.

This is how bad things have gotten for the Democratic Party - If Gavin Newsom barely survives recall, he could fail upwards to get the ticket at some point. But "Auntie" Pelosi will have a hard time sending him up to be sacrificial lamb against Nikki Haley.

Harris is already sunk, there is incentive in place to let her just eat 2024 as a walking punching bag politically, like a Romney,  to fully tank and hope to prevent a GOP Super Majority.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I've never seen a group cheering a turd not being flushed down the toilet like this. 

"Cheering" may be going a bit overboard, but you've never felt a sense of well-earned accomplishment in this situation?

 

[tonydead]

That's actually poor long term political strategy by the DNC. There's no way they actually do that.

1) Being the sitting Vice President provides many distinct advantages in an election cycle.  While this is normally a situation where being the actual sitting President is the advantage, this scenario from a resource base perspective is still true.

2) By pulling away from Harris, DNC HQ and the DNC Super Delegates are openly admitting their mistake. They are already going to lose 2024 to Nikki Haley and/or Ron De Santis. The 2022 mid terms are projected to flip Red. Pulling away from Harris has a massive down the ticket impact. What's more dangerous to the establishment Democrats?  Nikki Haley as POTUS or Nikki Haley as POTUS with a Super Majority?

3) By pushing someone else forward ( Who would it be?), they are burning out a potential contender for 2028. Mitt Romney had zero chance to beat Obama. He was sent up to lose. The GOP knew he was going to lose. But they didn't want to burn down one of their real prospects. They didn't want to burn down one of their real long term established hitters. Romney existed to as a placeholder to push to hold as many GOP interests as possible in that cycle.

Who will replace Harris? The contenders from 2020, people who actual got some kind of delegate support included Warren, Klobuchar, Buttigieg, Sanders and Gabbard.  The last two were railroaded by their own party. Gabbard no longer holds office ( Smart of her to walk away) and Sanders is too old and has been turfed too often.  Warren was railroaded and self inflicted the Pocahontas Scandal. Klobuchar will, no doubt, go to war with anyone and none of the establishment Democrats want that and she would be difficult to replace where she is now heading up several major powerful committees in Congress. They could sacrifice Buttigieg but the way things are shaping up, they might need him for 2028.

You can't just hit "reset" on POTUS contenders. It takes YEARS and LOTS OF MONEY to build a contender and they are groomed and established over time. It takes time to build relationships and to win delegates.

This is how bad things have gotten for the Democratic Party - If Gavin Newsom barely survives recall, he could fail upwards to get the ticket at some point. But "Auntie" Pelosi will have a hard time sending him up to be sacrificial lamb against Nikki Haley.

Harris is already sunk, there is incentive in place to let her just eat 2024 as a walking punching bag politically, like a Romney,  to fully tank and hope to prevent a GOP Super Majority.

Nailed it.

 

[GordonGekko]

I think Biden gets propped up for the rest of his term just like Reagan did at the end. I also think the Democrats made a massive mistake with her as she’s a horrible candidate and has no shot at 2024. 

It hasn't even been a year in office for Biden. How much more long term damage can he do to America's future, the future of the children of everyone here, in another 3 plus years?

What if Biden decides to order to carpet bomb one of our allies?

What if Biden is tired of being cooked alive in the MSM about the Taliban and orders a nuke is fired?

Do you think the Joint Chiefs will allow American forces to fulfill an order to hit one of our allies or to risk an escalating nuclear exchange?  They won't, but then you'll have powerful people in America's military making decisions they are not tasked nor expected nor mandated to make. Do you know how dangerous that becomes and how a precedent like that could spiral into full blown madness and anarchy?

What's the alternative? A massive legal battle with deep Constitutional questions to install .... Kamala Harris.

Do you remember when Mike Ditka ran the Saints and had to suffer through Heath Schuler before getting a dose of Billy Joe Hobert and Danny Wuerffel?

Kamala Harris is the politics version of Billy Joe Hobert. We will all watch a major Constitutional battle that will reach SCOTUS and have far reaching impact on America forever for the modern day grifter political version of Billy Joe Hobert.

What did Bill Parcells say again? When you have two quarterbacks in a "Quarterback By Committee", you really have none.

Some of you will rest the hopes and dreams and safety of your children on the spiritual animal version of Billy Joe Hobert.  Lovely.

 

[dkp993]

It hasn't even been a year in office for Biden. How much more long term damage can he do to America's future, the future of the children of everyone here, in another 3 plus years?

What if Biden decides to order to carpet bomb one of our allies?

What if Biden is tired of being cooked alive in the MSM about the Taliban and orders a nuke is fired?

Do you think the Joint Chiefs will allow American forces to fulfill an order to hit one of our allies or to risk an escalating nuclear exchange?  They won't, but then you'll have powerful people in America's military making decisions they are not tasked nor expected nor mandated to make. Do you know how dangerous that becomes and how a precedent like that could spiral into full blown madness and anarchy?

What's the alternative? A massive legal battle with deep Constitutional questions to install .... Kamala Harris.

Do you remember when Mike Ditka ran the Saints and had to suffer through Heath Schuler before getting a dose of Billy Joe Hobert and Danny Wuerffel?

Kamala Harris is the politics version of Billy Joe Hobert. We will all watch a major Constitutional battle that will reach SCOTUS and have far reaching impact on America forever for the modern day grifter political version of Billy Joe Hobert.

What did Bill Parcells say again? When you have two quarterbacks in a "Quarterback By Committee", you really have none.

Some of you will rest the hopes and dreams and safety of your children on the spiritual animal version of Billy Joe Hobert.  Lovely.

Really not sure who you’re speaking to here as it can be me, even though you quoted me.  I didn’t vote for the man and don’t defend him.  In fact I’ve made it very clear I think the DNC and in turn the voters made a mistake in nominating him.  

 

[pollardsvision]

What?

Yeah that's pretty confusing. The liberal media and most of the Biden voters in this forum seem in general agreement that Biden screwed up and it should be reflected in his approval ratings.

Heck, a good chunk of us here really only voted for Biden because we couldn't vote for a Party that was afraid to hurt their candidate's feelings by criticizing him.

 

[kface]

Yeah that's pretty confusing. The liberal media and most of the Biden voters in this forum seem in general agreement that Biden screwed up and it should be reflected in his approval ratings.

Heck, a good chunk of us here really only voted for Biden because we couldn't vote for a Party that was afraid to hurt their candidate's feelings by criticizing them.

Exactly

Biden is just another tired, washed up baby boomer.  The whole generation needs to get out of politics in my books...

 

[tonydead]

Heck, a good chunk of us here really only voted for Biden because we couldn't vote for a Party that was afraid to hurt their candidate's feelings by criticizing him.

The ugly truth, policy be dammed.  Well, here we are.

 

[rustycolts]

Exactly

Biden is just another tired, washed up baby boomer.  The whole generation needs to get out of politics in my books...

Boomers may have voted for him but he is not a boomer.

 

[kface]

Boomers may have voted for him but he is not a boomer.

True...either way, that generation needs to shut it down already

 

[rustycolts]

I'm afraid you probably have about 

True...either way, that generation needs to shut it down already

I'm afraid you have about 20 more years of us in politics. I agree with you though let's get the old farts out of office. We are the ones that have kept us in continuous wars for almost 3 generation's. 

 

[squistion]

Exactly

Biden is just another tired, washed up baby boomer.  The whole generation needs to get out of politics in my books...

Biden is not a baby boomer. That group started after WW2 in 1946. Biden was born in 1942. 

 

[GordonGekko]

Heck, a good chunk of us here really only voted for Biden because we couldn't vote for a Party that was afraid to hurt their candidate's feelings by criticizing him.

If there was a house in town called "Orange Man Bad" that was placed on "One MAGA Lane", it's like you wandered through the neighborhood for 9 extra blocks out of your way, instead of making a beeline, before you finally got to your destination.

You've pushed Orange Man Bad but just the long form solid state cardio version.

Then again, some people on their online dating profiles also say they enjoy long walks on the beach too.  Political tribalism sponsored by Plenty Of Fish is a new take on the issue, I'll give you credit for that.

 

[lazyike]

Glad Biden won too but very disappointed that he was our only option.  Been watching old videos of Biden as he was before my time and he never seemed very sharp even in his younger days.  Now it is magnified.

I agree. I see the " Don't blame me, I voted for Trump" signs and I think that is exactly why I blame you. If you had supported at least a somewhat more rational  Republican of decency from the beginning we would of had at someone else to consider.

 

[BladeRunner]

I agree. I see the " Don't blame me, I voted for Trump" signs and I think that is exactly why I blame you. If you had supported at least a somewhat more rational  Republican of decency from the beginning we would of had at someone else to consider.

No, No.  You don't get to blame the Trump voters for the candidate the DNC put up.  That's all on the DNC.

 

[lazyike]

I agree. I see the " Don't blame me, I voted for Trump" signs and I think that is exactly why I blame you. If you had supported at least a somewhat more rational  Republican of decency from the beginning we would of had at someone else to consider.

No, No.  You don't get to blame the Trump voters for the candidate the DNC put up.  That's all on the DNC.

No I don’t blame Trump for wanting to be President, I blame Republicans for wanting Trump to be the candidate for the party. And my final grade on Biden is still up in the air. I think he has botched this withdrawal but other than that I approve so far and give him credit for getting this bipartisan infrastructure deal as far as he has got it. Think he deserves credit for his Covid vaccination rollout as well. The resurgence of another wave of Covid I blame on the  stubbornness from so many misinformed.

 

[tonydead]

No I don’t blame Trump for wanting to be President, I blame Republicans for wanting Trump to be the candidate for the party. And my final grade on Biden is still up in the air. I think he has botched this withdrawal but other than that I approve so far and give him credit for getting this bipartisan infrastructure deal as far as he has got it. Think he deserves credit for his Covid vaccination rollout as well. The resurgence of another wave of Covid I blame on the  stubbornness from so many misinformed.

Well that was lazy reading.  Ill rephrase for you.  If you want to pass the buck you have to keep going - Hillary gave us Trump.  

 

[BladeRunner]

No I don’t blame Trump for wanting to be President, I blame Republicans for wanting Trump to be the candidate for the party. And my final grade on Biden is still up in the air. I think he has botched this withdrawal but other than that I approve so far and give him credit for getting this bipartisan infrastructure deal as far as he has got it. Think he deserves credit for his Covid vaccination rollout as well. The resurgence of another wave of Covid I blame on the  stubbornness from so many misinformed.

So, everything is NOT Biden's fault, but someone else's?  But everything is Trump's fault?  Is that where your posts are leading us?

As @tonydead pointed out previously, Hillary gave us Trump.

 

[lazyike]

So, everything is NOT Biden's fault, but someone else's?  But everything is Trump's fault?  Is that where your posts are leading us?

As @tonydead pointed out previously, Hillary gave us Trump.

What part of "I blame Republicans for wanting Trump to be their candidate" don't you understand? By Republicans I mean the majority of Republican voters. You blame who you want to blame but don't try to change what I have stated. If you don't agree just say you disagree with me. 

 

[BladeRunner]

What part of "I blame Republicans for wanting Trump to be their candidate" don't you understand? By Republicans I mean the majority of Republican voters. You blame who you want to blame but don't try to change what I have stated. If you don't agree just say you disagree with me. 

FINE!!!   I disagree.