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Big Ten Basketball 2022/2023 - Return to Power (9 Viewers)
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Garrett
Footballguy
If I have to break this tie, I'd lean towards Dekker. His potential is through the roof right now.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
strykerpks
Footballguy
sporthenry
Footballguy
Dekker is going to be good but how much can he score in that offense? Last couple leaders in B10 have averaged over 20/game. Closest anyone has come to 20/game was Tucker in his senior year. Leuer and Taylor averaged 18/piece two years ago but I don't see Dekker over 18/game and probably closer to 16/16.5 game.
ETA: Also might want to update the title of this thread about the B10 being the best conference in the country.
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Frostillicus
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
You're right, there's no chance Dekker is the best scorer. But he's going to be very, very good. Guy's named Sam always do well. Jacobson, Okey, etc.
strykerpks
Footballguy
You're probably right. Dekker averaged about 10 ppg in about 20mpg as a freshman, mostly off the bench but he should start this year. He will shoot >40% from 3 and dunk on some fools. I hope he put on about 15 pounds but I'm not sure where he's at with that.
I think he's probably a year away but he should have a "player of the year" type season before he graduates.
strykerpks
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Garrett
Footballguy
strykerpks
Footballguy
phatdawg
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
That was weird, can't happen often that a player ends up going to a school he decommited from.
If IU can pluck one of the remaining big men the 2014 class will be stacked.
phatdawg
Footballguy
It's a pretty good class right now, particularly following the last two classes they have had. The other question about adding anyone else is they are already oversigned by one, so another recruit would mean they are oversigned by two. But I guess this year's class demonstrates that oversigning isn't a bad thing.
The General
Footballguy
Yup, Crean seems to work around oversigning. Would be great for program to get another highly rated recruit - I think they are a handful left a couple of which have IU on the list - to keep the positive news coming. Weird recruiting season for IU as they missed out on a few, had a couple decommits, got Blackmon back.
What's the buzz around Hanner Parea? Hopefully he improved since last year. He looked lost last year.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
With only one player on the list, it seems Wisconsin is in trouble, although Bo rarely has a lot of blue chippers and he's never finished lower than 4th in 12 years.
phatdawg
Footballguy
I watched the first exhibition game and he looked a little better. He hit a nice jump shot and all his free throws. He still doesn't look as fluid offensively or defensivel as you would like. I think it will be marked improvement, but not drastic improvement.
Garrett
Footballguy
I think Jaquan Lyle will complete the 2014 class. Indiana seemed well positioned to add him after he de-committed from Louisville. I think the Blackmon commitment makes it even more likely Lyle ends up a Hoosier.
Garrett
Footballguy
Yeah, I assume any team Bo Ryan puts out on the floor is going to be tough. Especially for Tom Crean to beat
The General
Footballguy
Hopefully he can make a big jump this year.
I didn't realize they had an exhibition already. Did the transfer Gordon play? I don't know anything about him but that seemed like a solid move.
Also curious if Jurkin even looked remotely useful.
Abraham
Footballguy
Garrett
Footballguy
Because, it's not fair.
http://www.kentucky.com/2013/11/07/2917913/notes-calipari-claims-early-season.html
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Good night for the Big 10. 7-0 for the evening.
Garrett
Footballguy
And, to a larger degree, it doesn't fit what John is developing/building to try and win another NCAA title. Pre-conference, John wants tournament prep; neutral sites, confidence builders etc. I was joking, but if you want a real answer, John is taking kids from high school and trying to ramp them into the NBA for their own and his own benefit. If that is the plan then playing in places like Bloomington, Indiana and teams like Michigan State early in the year doesn't fit into his agenda.
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Eviloutsider
Footballguy
Wisconsin over Florida tonight as well. Good night for the Big Ten.
phatdawg
Footballguy
Jurkin is not remotely useful and Gordon is not as useful as I had expected. The Hoosiers looked like they were playing in an AAU game tonight against LIU Brooklyn. Yogi and Vonleh looked good throughout and Sheehey looked good in the second half. Still, it was sloppy.
The Commish
Footballguy
Really hope these 
foul calls don't trickle into the B1G. CBB is one of the places where I love watching hard nosed defense. Though, when they go out of conference they'll probably be in a lot of foul trouble all the time if last night was any indication.
foul calls don't trickle into the B1G. CBB is one of the places where I love watching hard nosed defense. Though, when they go out of conference they'll probably be in a lot of foul trouble all the time if last night was any indication.
Keerock
Footballguy
Really hope these
There were a bunch of handcheck and other calls last night that had me pulling my hair out. Just let them play for Christ's sake. Turning into the NFL where you can't play good defense without getting penalized. No way in hell either MSU or UK should have been on the line as much as they were.
The Commish
Footballguy
Apparently there was an "uproar" from other conferences last year and some changes were made to prevent things from moving towards the "B1G style" of play. I guess there are those who want all CBB to be like the NBA All Star game....they go that route and they've lost a big fan.Really hope these
Keerock
Footballguy
Yeah... except in the NBA they don't play defense. And I don't think it's because of the way play is called by the refs. I agree, though. There is absolutely a happy medium that can be had here. Just like any other sport that, IHO, is fun to watch (CFB, MLB, NHL, and until recently CBB), good defense is a part of it.Apparently there was an "uproar" from other conferences last year and some changes were made to prevent things from moving towards the "B1G style" of play. I guess there are those who want all CBB to be like the NBA All Star game....they go that route and they've lost a big fan.Really hope these
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Apparently there was an "uproar" from other conferences last year and some changes were made to prevent things from moving towards the "B1G style" of play. I guess there are those who want all CBB to be like the NBA All Star game....they go that route and they've lost a big fan.Really hope these
I heard the same thing regarding the foul calling and B1G style. There were a lot of crappy calls both ways last night.
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Spartans Rule
Footballguy
MSU definitely looks a lot better than they did the last two games, and that's with Harris in a bad shooting slump. Payne is a ####### monster.
strykerpks
Footballguy
Badgers might average > 70, both scoring and defensively 
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That's a bold statement for a UW team. Big 10 should be interesting, but MSU and UM seem really talent heavy compared to the rest of the conference. MSU also has significant experience.Badgers might average > 70, both scoring and defensively
strykerpks
Footballguy
Mostly hyperbole.That's a bold statement for a UW team. Big 10 should be interesting, but MSU and UM seem really talent heavy compared to the rest of the conference. MSU also has significant experience.Badgers might average > 70, both scoring and defensively
But early on they have been pretty bad on defense (for a typical UW team). They're young, but seem to be playing on their heels. They're missing some switches, not getting a hand in the face of shooters and giving up a lot of easy buckets.
On the other end they're pushing the pace and getting transition points where in the past they would normally kick it back out and run half court for 30 seconds. DId you ever think a Bo Ryan team would score 100, regardless of competition? I haven't checked the numbers but it also seems like they're burying 3's at a higher rate than years past as well.
Lots of season left and this is all probably drunken ramblings inflated by the game vs NDak with Frank freaking Kaminsky breaking the school points record.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
We are even on the drunken rambling part.Mostly hyperbole.But early on they have been pretty bad on defense (for a typical UW team). They're young, but seem to be playing on their heels. They're missing some switches, not getting a hand in the face of shooters and giving up a lot of easy buckets.That's a bold statement for a UW team. Big 10 should be interesting, but MSU and UM seem really talent heavy compared to the rest of the conference. MSU also has significant experience.Badgers might average > 70, both scoring and defensively
On the other end they're pushing the pace and getting transition points where in the past they would normally kick it back out and run half court for 30 seconds. DId you ever think a Bo Ryan team would score 100, regardless of competition? I haven't checked the numbers but it also seems like they're burying 3's at a higher rate than years past as well.
Lots of season left and this is all probably drunken ramblings inflated by the game vs NDak with Frank freaking Kaminsky breaking the school points record.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Never. I figured a Bo Ryan team would need to shoot about 95 percent to score 100 points.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Payne with 29 and 10. Plus he blocked 3 shots early and VT pretty much abandoned going to the basket. I'm not sure why he came back because he looks like he could start right now for some NBA teams. But I will take it.
Izzo's called 3 timeouts in garbage time to chew out players for missing defensive assignments.
Izzo's called 3 timeouts in garbage time to chew out players for missing defensive assignments.
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Frostillicus
Footballguy
Oh good for you.Payne with 29 and 10. Plus he blocked 3 shots early and VT pretty much abandoned going to the basket. I'm not sure why he came back because he looks like he could start right now for some NBA teams. But I will take it.
Izzo's called 3 timeouts in garbage time to chew out players for missing defensive assignments.
HATE.
strykerpks
Footballguy
Or having a 7' goober go 16/19, 6/6 from downtown and 5-6 from the line for 43 points.
with 3 boards an 0 assists
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Every year. Without fail.Or having a 7' goober go 16/19, 6/6 from downtown and 5-6 from the line for 43 points.
strykerpks
Footballguy
They will miss Berggren, Evans and especially Bruesewitz on the defensive end and a bit of that "toughness" intangible.Every year. Without fail.Or having a 7' goober go 16/19, 6/6 from downtown and 5-6 from the line for 43 points.
But give Pitino some time. I think he was a great hire and will get that team on the right track sooner than later
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Big fanThey will miss Berggren, Evans and especially Bruesewitz on the defensive end and a bit of that "toughness" intangible.Every year. Without fail.Or having a 7' goober go 16/19, 6/6 from downtown and 5-6 from the line for 43 points.
But give Pitino some time. I think he was a great hire and will get that team on the right track sooner than later
strykerpks
Footballguy
You should have a link to your blog in your sig.
