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Big Ten Basketball 2022/2023 - Return to Power (1 Viewer)

Michigan beats Purdue by 19 - 76-57. UNC has scored the most points against MI this season - 67. They also gave M the closest game - a 17 point M win.

This team is REALLY good right now.

 
Michigan beats Purdue by 19 - 76-57. UNC has scored the most points against MI this season - 67. They also gave M the closest game - a 17 point M win.

This team is REALLY good right now.
Doesn't Mich typically gel later in the season?  They seem to be firing on all cylinders. 

 
PSU 31, MD 30 at halftime.

Maryland came flying out of the gate against Penn State, then fell into a funk. Their legs look dead.

 
Doesn't Mich typically gel later in the season?  They seem to be firing on all cylinders. 
Yes. Even in all their recent  great seasons with back to back B10 tournament titles and 2 NCAA title games, I don’t think they have ever started well or won the B10 regular season.

 
At some point this Michigan team will have to play a legit team and we will see how they look when tested.
That would have to be either Kansas, Duke or Gonzaga.  Michigan State late in the season may be difficult.  The biggest challenge for Michigan will be to hold it together and try to improve.  

 
7/21 is a scoring machine? :tinfoilhat:
He is still the 2nd leading scorer in the top 5 conferences in the country.   He was scoring for a stretch early in the second half when that was posted.   It was not like I posted that after the game.  

 
Yes. Even in all their recent  great seasons with back to back B10 tournament titles and 2 NCAA title games, I don’t think they have ever started well or won the B10 regular season.
It was doubtful Michigan was even going to make the tourney last year.  They were a bubble team in January.  

 
Maryland scraped by PSU in a sloppy game. Cowan hit two big 3s towards the end, but Morsell is the one who bailed the Terps out.

 
Doesn't Mich typically gel later in the season?  They seem to be firing on all cylinders. 
They do. Beilein's offense is pretty complicated so it usually takes a while to integrate new people. They usually play their best in Feb/March.

Will be interesting to see what happens with this team. I worry a little they are peaking too early but when defense is your calling card, its easier to sustain that.

 
They do. Beilein's offense is pretty complicated so it usually takes a while to integrate new people. They usually play their best in Feb/March.

Will be interesting to see what happens with this team. I worry a little they are peaking too early but when defense is your calling card, its easier to sustain that.
I know they are red hot but when it's a well coached team with a history of improving during the season and the star of the team is a freshman, I think it is reasonable to assume the team can get better by March. 

 
I had company and didn't pay real close attention, but......

Maryland had some success early with Bruno flashing into the lane and either going to the rim or shooting a baby hook. Did Virginia do something to stop that or did Maryland just go away from it for some other reason?

A minor miracle that Maryland was able to get back close towards the end, considering they had to play into UVA's half court D the entire game - Virginia only had TWO turnovers in the game, meaning Maryland couldn't run on them as much as I had hoped.
It's often tough for me to tell whether teams are cutting off that pass or Maryland stops going to it.  I'm usually watching the ball rather than watching the off-ball defenders.  Similar thing happened against PSU last night.  I have to think the defense is adjusting.

 
Maryland scraped by PSU in a sloppy game. Cowan hit two big 3s towards the end, but Morsell is the one who bailed the Terps out.
That last shot by Cowan shouldn't have been necessary, but it was ridiculous.  To hit from 27 feet with the shot clock at 2, with a 6'9" guy in your face, and essentially put the game away...  That's a big-time shot.

I don't know how I feel about this Terps team yet.  Unlike Michigan, Maryland's recent history is that they play worse in Feb/March, but maybe that changes on a team with so many freshmen.

I noticed that Bruno made only two field goals, but was 8-8 from the line.  If he keeps that up, it makes him a low-post force.

Seems like Michigan has a legit claim to the #1 ranking at this point.  They are repeatedly destroying good teams.

 
That last shot by Cowan shouldn't have been necessary, but it was ridiculous.  To hit from 27 feet with the shot clock at 2, with a 6'9" guy in your face, and essentially put the game away...  That's a big-time shot.

I don't know how I feel about this Terps team yet.  Unlike Michigan, Maryland's recent history is that they play worse in Feb/March, but maybe that changes on a team with so many freshmen.

I noticed that Bruno made only two field goals, but was 8-8 from the line.  If he keeps that up, it makes him a low-post force.

Seems like Michigan has a legit claim to the #1 ranking at this point.  They are repeatedly destroying good teams.
Bruno & Smith were both aggressive, though only in spurts. As I said above, I thought the team looked tired - UVA will do that to ya.

I thought Morsell was the key down the stretch. Maryland had run the lead out to about 8 or 9, but PSU made a run and it looked like MD was out of gas. Morsell made a couple of hustle plays and a couple of key scores that stopped the bleeding - allowing for Cowan's heroics at the end.

Turgeon - as usual - seems to struggle with a rotation, even when foul trouble doesn't dictate what he does. 

 
There are probably 5 elite teams (MI, VIR, Duke, Zag, KAN) which are all arguably the best team in the country.  Michigan will not be able to leapfrog them until they lose.  Michigan has weaknesses, mainly horrible (61%) FT shooting and lack of depth going only about 7 deep.  But with their tenacious #1 defense and well run offense they should win the BIG and have a #1 seed.  OSU, MSU and maybe Iowa will be competitive, but none of them look as good as Michigan. 

 
Yesterday was the first time I've watched Michigan this year.  What impressed me more than anything was the fact that they played very poorly offensively for a majority of the 2nd half and Purdue still couldn't cut into the lead at all.

 
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There are probably 5 elite teams (MI, VIR, Duke, Zag, KAN) which are all arguably the best team in the country.  Michigan will not be able to leapfrog them until they lose.  Michigan has weaknesses, mainly horrible (61%) FT shooting and lack of depth going only about 7 deep.  But with their tenacious #1 defense and well run offense they should win the BIG and have a #1 seed.  OSU, MSU and maybe Iowa will be competitive, but none of them look as good as Michigan. 
7 deep, plus 3 pretty highly recruited freshmen who will get integrated more throughout the season. 

Free throw shooting is their biggest weakness, followed by being a bit hot-and-cold on their 3-pt shooting.

 
What the heck is Simpson taking so many threes....foir in a row.  None of them close.  

 
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I would need to watch the game again, but it seems like a ridiculously high percentage of Maryland possessions wind up with Cowan holding the ball, 26 feet from the basket, and 5 seconds left on the shot clock.  Why is this?  Further, this has been a consistent problem for 5+ years.  Drives me nuts.

Down the stretch last night, down by three, three straight possessions, including one with a timeout, ended in a shot clock violation.  That's simply unacceptable.

The last shot for Maryland was also embarrassing for having had two timeouts to discuss.

Turgeon needs to go.  I'm not sure I can think of a coach whose results manage to consistently underperform relative to the talent available.

 
I was pretty shocked by that and it changed my view of the guy. The tweet is a bit misleading though. He got a flagrant 1 which was a game changer at the time. I’d be fine if Gard sat him a few games for that. 
I thought the guy missed the free throw and they did not convert on the possession.  But whatever, Wisconsin had so many chance to tie/win the game but failed to take advantage in the last four minutes of the game.  But that was a weird play, wtf was he thinking.  Literally a #### move. 

 
Sad to see Eric Anderson pass at such a young age.  Met him at a wedding a few years back.  A really nice guy.  
To add insult to injury, the top news result for his name identifies him as "Tracy Anderson's first husband, Eric"

 
Sad to see Eric Anderson pass at such a young age.  Met him at a wedding a few years back.  A really nice guy.  
He was one of the best players in one of the better eras of the Big Ten. A lot of talent flowed through the Big Ten in the late 80's-early 90's. 

He also got to earn a decent paycheck for a couple of years sitting at the end of the Knicks bench (although I read that he was one game short of having his pension vested).

 
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IU is getting better but the Big10 will be pretty brutal.  Michigan has been playing down to their competition lately.  It would not shock me if they lost their next Big10 game.  

 
IU is getting better but the Big10 will be pretty brutal.  Michigan has been playing down to their competition lately.  It would not shock me if they lost their next Big10 game.  
Eh. They start out - 

v Penn St

v IU

at ILL

v NW

at WI

--

I reckon they win the next 4 and then lose at WI.

 
Maryland loses another winnable game, this time at home to an inferior team, despite some favorable officiating.  Turgeon was booed during the introductions, and rightly so, in my opinion.  Same problems, year after year.  Way too many turnovers, offense goes stagnant for long stretches, poor shot selection, no idea how to play against a zone, and absolutely refuses to press or play a zone on defense.

I particularly love the inbounds play with 50 seconds to play, down three, in which Maryland would up with Bruno Fernando taking his 4th three of the year.  Quality shot selection.  Then another terrible three by Ayala down three with 20 seconds to play.

Despite monster recruiting classes year after year, Maryland will be a perennial bubble team as long as Turgeon is coach.

 
Steve Alford gets the axe.   Hard to argue.  An elite school, should be a recruiters dream, and fairly easy conference to dominate.  Really having a terrible season and has yet to produce anywhere close to expectations.   I do wish him well though.  

 
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