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You're right, it's not our government. It is corporations doing that. I conflated the two.
You really couldn't be more wrong about this. Go read the vaccine threads. Start with every post by @Doug B and @Terminalxylem.
A vaccinated obese smoker has less to worry about than an unvaccinated in shape non smoker?
"Obese" and "smoker" are relative terms (how obese? how much smoking?). All else being equal, vaccination is the single most effective thing one can do to protect oneself (and society). You know this. I don't understand why you want to conflate it with other things.
Whether it’s true or not doesn’t matter - it doesn’t follow that being healthy is our best weapon. We know this because healthy people are dying. Our COVID response should me multifaceted- vaccine, getting in shape, masking in some situations (for now), distancing, healthy diet, hydration and on. The vaccine is the best weapon because they are safe, highly effective at preventing death and (almost) everyone can do it. Healthy people can’t get healthy. Many people with certain conditions can’t get healthy.
I said as much in the FFA thread. IMO there has to be some level of comfort on Jada's part to go out in public like that and choose not to cover it up somehow. I think that would play into a comic's mind a bit as to if something is able to be joked about or not.
It is worth noting that Maher said all of this during his monologue (see: jokes).
Right, every pic I see of her she looks supremely confident and there she is so embarrassed with it sitting front row at the oscars. But maybe she is crying on the inside.
The worst part for Smith might not even be the lameness of the situation, it’s that I learned that his wife treats him like #### and he stays.
Yeah, we went through this in the FFA thread - your take seems crazy and has nothing to back it up. What exactly would Smith gain from staging that? And now he’s resigned from the Academy? Makes zero sense.
I had absolutely no idea about that particular aspect of Will Smith's life, and now it's common knowledge apparently. Kind of undercuts the "it was just a PR stunt" view.
I've watched the video. Didn't look real to me. There was something off about Smith's motion and arm angle throughout, and both of them were smiling/laughing immediately after. I didn't participate in the other thread, so maybe someone can add something.
On this note, I'm aware this is a bit of a hijack. In truth, it's really not something I care about. My next time watching TMZ or the like will be my first. Just wanted to consider the possibility.Rich Conway said:
I also thought it was staged, especially seeing how Smith initially laughed and Rock was chuckling and sticking his head out as Smith approached. But Smith put force into the slap. His heels lifted off the ground. Rock was as stunned as everyone else. His confusion looked genuine. He was probably expecting Smith to do something entertaining like make threats, not actual violence.Rich Conway said:
Great segment. I wouldn't have expected this to be bumped for that segment. This forum loves to focus on fringe people/beliefs on the left while the type of stuff highlighted in that piece have become the core of the GOP. They're (almost) all trying out Trump each other.The General said:
Great segment. This week’s show was solid.
It’s an interesting contrast, how we’ve decided that entertainment needs to be so “politically corrected”, yet when it suggested that the glorification of violence and other bad behaviors in entertainment is part of the problem so many are quick to dismiss it. Which is it?
Saw that earlier, hard to argue with most of it.
Unfortunately it (the gun violence) sells. In that context, political correctness seems petty in comparison.
Here is what I have always argued - I would much rather there be real consequences when there is violence in the movies. I think there is more danger in a pg-13 movie where bad guys get mowed down with no blood or 2nd thought vs. a very emotional, violent shooting in an R movie. I don't think the movies create violent people, but I've always thought it's unhealthy to see that much random violence in movies aim for teens and younger, especially when you consider the harsh divide we have for anything remotely sexual or have nudity in it. I'd rather my kid at 14 see a couple pair of boobs vs. 40 random bloodless baddie get gunned down, but I've also been told I am weird for having that stance.
Cigarettes sell too, we had no problem saying they shouldn’t be advertised and glamorized?
I'd love to see the movies put out if we changed the ratings system to reflect that gun violence can't be advertised or glamorized. I'd also expect most people to not g.a.f and watch them anyway.
I’m not saying they should be legislated or regulated (age based rating system is fine) . Just like I don’t think social media should be legislated or regulated. By government and preferably by private entities as well.
Agree. I just think it's a step to far with him correlating it to mass shootings so much. I have seen no such common trait in anything I have read.
I’m mostly on the same page.
I mean it's stylized and taken to the extreme, but these movies are largely for males and young males. Yes - I think that demographic are largely prone to violence to solve problems, have a lean towards taking care of things on our own (my example about the posts in these threads), and as a country have a ton of guns. Are we those people? no Do we think about and talk about doing those things if somebody hurt our family? Hmmm.
He very explicitly says it’s part of the problem and we don’t know how big the pie prices are - he’s right on the money, IMO. Many of the folks for gun control (hell, I voted numerous times around here I’d eliminate guns) are saying that people can’t be myopic and only discuss mental health or single points of entry or whatever. In that same vein, we can talk about the glorification of guns, violence and revenge in TV/movies.
I get that, but then he proceeds to talk about it as though it was a main factor and only lists 4 things in the pie graph. . I am just tired of not actually talking about the bigger slices of that pie, and didn't like that it was only 1 if 4 things. Imo this is such a small piece of the puzzle that focusing on it too much distracts from the big issues.
