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Bill Maher wants to coach the Democrats (1 Viewer)
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KingPrawn
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Trust me. I’m the guy who predicted Trump would win in 2016. Don’t be deceived by the people who still like Trump and go to his rallies. They like that he fights back and gets in Liberals’ heads. But they also realize he makes a bad President. He’ll get votes, but he won’t get the nom.
KingPrawn
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I'm not so sure about that.
And if he is the best chance that the Republicans have to beat the Democrats, they'll line up behind him in mass.
The General
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dkp993
Footballguy
I would love nothing more then to believe this, but the support he still enjoys with the rank and file GOP in Congress suggests otherwise. They still bend the knee at every chance possible.
He still has a stranglehold on the party as is evident by the fear of anyone to speak out and those that do get Ostracized almost immediately.
The General
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Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Who would primary him?
Desantis seems the logical choice--he's young, good looking, checks every box on the MAGA checklist, but Trump will unload on him, and perhaps do permanent damage to Desantis' career.
Brian Kemp is an example. He is MAGA on steroids. The dude made a campaign commercial where he pointed a gun at his daughter's boyfriend. He did everything he was supposed to do except steal the election, and for that reason Trump has humiliated him, going so far as to endorse Stacey Abrams.
Trump will burn everything to the ground if he doesn't get his way.
KarmaPolice
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Ghost Rider
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I think he will, simply because no one wants to commit political suicide by going up against him. Pretty much every Republican who has gone against him since 2015-2016 is either a non-factor now (remember when Marco Rubio was considered one of the future stars of the GOP? I cannot remember the last time I heard anything about him) or got in line behind him (Cruz, Graham) and you don't get in Trump''s line to jump it on him.
Maybe, but you can't win the presidency without winning over a lot of independents, and my guess is most independents would rather vote for either no one or the Democratic nominee than Trump in 2024 (mark me down as one of those people).
KingPrawn
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NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
The Raffensberger call stuff has been pretty thoroughly discussed and debunked. Yes, Trump used the words "find votes", no he wasn't asking Raffensberger to find votes for him on some secret call of coercion to overthrow the election. I'd rather not go into too much because of the mods, but Maher specifically states at the end he is fear mongering so my comment shouldn't be too controversial.
NorvilleBarnes
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dkp993
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I hope you warmed up and stretched well before that reach, you could pull something.
NorvilleBarnes
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I mean, there's a transcript that can be read. Like I said, already pretty thoroughly discussed here.
Can’t say that I disagree with Dr Fiona Hill and I don’t see how Trump doesn’t get the nomination One way or another will claim he won again and this time a mob like January 6th will be far more successful..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQkRoi7ulgQ
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The General
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NorvilleBarnes
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glvsav37
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He never asked to make up any fraudulent votes, he outlined that they believed that they won by many more (over 400K votes) than the 11k+ difference. But he says that there is no difference between winning by 1/2 million votes or 2 votes. He outlined multiple violations they believed happened but to save everyone time, they didn't need to investigate every instance of fraud, just the minimum would be enough for them to turn the state.
Here is the full transcript
But just in case you don't want to read the whole, here are the instances I reference.
Here is the full transcript
But just in case you don't want to read the whole, here are the instances I reference.
The General
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Sadly there is no one that will even come close to Trump to getting enough "Republican" votes in the primary. The General election itself is up in the air depending on whether Democrats can find a moderate candidate that can appeal to independents that is not a Bernie Sanders radical type. Biden should refuse the nomination.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/575207-trump-favorability-hits-new-high-in-iowa-poll
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Snotbubbles
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Ghost Rider said:
I can't believe people hate Trump so personally that they would really vote for Biden again? Biden has been a complete and utter disaster. Through his first 9 months, he is easily the worst President of my lifetime.
The General
Footballguy
A guy who so blatantly tries to destroy a fundamental part of our democracy is a nonstarter for a significant chunk of voters.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Not to hijack but anyone who calls for peaceful protests and pursues legal challenges through the courts is upholding democracy, not destroying it.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I would not characterize advancing specious and baseless legal claims as upholding democracy, nor would I consider the spreading of misinformation in order to undermine public confidence in our electoral process to be upholding democracy. Also, calling for the Vice President to act extra-constitutionally in order to overturn the election results is not upholding democracy, in my opinion.
NorvilleBarnes
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The General
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The dude should be a pariah. Shunned by Americans. Instead he’s the most influential person of one of our two parties. It’s seriously crazy.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Vote for Biden again? I would say the odds of Biden running again in 2024 are slim to none.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I can't think of a single Democrat right now who deserves my vote. Not one. I can come up with a few Republicans who I would vote for at this moment.
Sparky Big Time
Footballguy
It is curious. Rather than placing someone effective, albeit stomach turning, they would happily place someone they think is a "good guy" but whose policies are thoroughly devastating to this nation , notable the most disenfranchised among us.
The worst President in my lifetime failed to accept the fact he lost an election and concede like every other President, and said he loved a bunch of rioters who injured police while breaking into the US Capital.
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It would be wishful thinking if the Republicans you might consider were any of the following..Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, John Kasich, Mitt Romney. Ben Sasse. About the only ones I would consider.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
At least there are Republicans you would consider. I can't think of one Democrat. Maybe Buttigeig.
Shutout
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Shutout
Footballguy
If they make the right moves between now and mid-terms, I think Trump will NOT run and will throw his support behind someone. I am thinking a female and I am thinking Nikki Haley or Kristi Noem (although neither stick out right now). I do not think it is unreasonable to see a Haley/Desantis ticket with DeSantis as VP and I think that ticket with the support of Trump would be extremely difficult to match on the Democrat side.
Gopher State
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Coaching the Dems would be like coaching the Detroit Lions.
The General
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Chaz McNulty
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I hope you're right. I like Haley. But she's not a Trump acolyte, so I'm not sure Trump would throw his support behind her. Haley has been pretty good at straddling the fence between Republican and Trumplican, but I don't think she will kiss the ring.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Trump is obviously very dislikeable but he was also a disaster. His handling of the Covid crisis was just so awful. And it was pretty much set up on a tee for him. He just had to take it seriously and pretend to be concerned about the health of the everyday American.
I agree 100% with Maher and it is horrifying. This is why Trump was impeached and why the Senate should have convicted him. You'll still have a ton of people that say it was a waste of time or that it was a hoax, but the Senate clearly failed their job.
Snotbubbles
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Snotbubbles
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Sparky Big Time
Footballguy
Trump set a low bar for COVID response, and Biden can't even get over it.
According to many on the left he overstepped in his response.
Rich Conway
Footballguy
This seems a lot like complaining about an F on a test after refusing the teacher's offer to provide extra help. Republicans are the ones ranting and raving about COVID policies the administration wants to implement or tries to implement, then simultaneously complaining that the administration isn't doing enough to help.Snotbubbles said:
Admin: Get vaccinated!
GOP: *stomps feet* No, I don't wanna!
Admin: Wear a mask!
GOP: *stomps feet* No, I don't wanna!
Admin: Practice social distancing!
GOP: *stomps feet* No, I don't wanna!
GOP: Why won't the administration do something??!!?!
supermike80
Footballguy
Is it you that keeps repeating this tired little thing over and over? Or are you guys copying and pasting from Meta or something? You got one part wrong...The GOP isn't whining about the administration to do something, they want the administration to STOP doing things. And they especially want the admin to stop MANDATING things. Subtle differences I know, but hey..facebook is super cool!!!
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Not quite. But I'm not going to belabor how totally off-base you are with your position since it been beat to death repeatedly on these boards.
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