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Bills @ Saints - Preseason Game Thread (1 Viewer)

Hard to believe Palko wasn't drafted by anyone. I thought he did a nice job at Pitt with not too much around him. Talk in NO is that he's already done enough to make the roster this year.
I feel the exact opposite. I couldn't believe he found his way onto an NFL roster. It seemed like his throws always hung in the air for hours and he took too long to make decisions. Hope he makes it, though.
Well that was more like it.
 
WOW, what a freaking young D...Hope they can play.
DiG, Crowell and Ellison starting. Ellison looked confused on one play.Langston Walker blocks the FG. Nice play.
Was I mistaken or did CBS list Crowell at WLB, DiG MLB, & Ellison at SLB? Could've been their mistake? Anybody notice?
I think you are right about that listing.Perhaps the Bills plan on Poz stepping up eventually, but DiG played well.
 
WOW, what a freaking young D...Hope they can play.
DiG, Crowell and Ellison starting. Ellison looked confused on one play.Langston Walker blocks the FG. Nice play.
Was I mistaken or did CBS list Crowell at WLB, DiG MLB, & Ellison at SLB? Could've been their mistake? Anybody notice?
I think you are right about that listing.Perhaps the Bills plan on Poz stepping up eventually, but DiG played well.
The surpise to me was Crowell at WLB. All the reports I've read up to now had him at SLB. That's why I think it was a mistake? But what do I know? :confused: (nothin' that's what)
 
Bills info from a fan -

Poz was all over the place played real well.

Walker aside from the blocked FG, I think played poor.

1st team was very out of it.

No holes for the run game.

Evans dropped a ball and was crunched.

Fred Jackson looked great running the ball, I hope he gets Shaud Williams cut.

Leonard played poor at safety.

Brees picked apart the secondary.

The DT's seemed to stop McCalister but Bush ran all over them.

Ko Simpson landed a nice hit.

Parrish ran solid routes.

Price was no where.

Wright had trouble picking up blocks.

Edwards looked ok, nothing deep all dump offs.

JP didn't really take any deep shots either.

Lynch was not show cased at all - I know he can do more

Greer looked a lot better then Webster - Youboty even too.

Lindell drilled a 54 yarder with ease

Aiken made a lot of possesion type hitch route and curl grabs, showed good hands.

O-line in general looked un-organized.

Saints line stopped any 1st string rush from the Bills ( I don't think they tried blitzing)

 
:ptts:

not a great showing from the Bills but they came out with a win, which is a good thing for a young team like this.

Fred Jackson looked great. They should just cut Shaud Williams tomorrow to get more reps for the young RBs.

Josh Reed always looks great in the preseason and then disappears when the season comes around. Have a good feeling about him this year though. Same with Parrish. Bills might want to go with Evans/Parrish on the outside with Reed in the slot. Parrish is small to play outside, but his quickness out there would be scary for defenses.

pretty unimpressive performance by the defense but that was to be expected. they gave up a ton of yards but kept the Saints 1st teamers out of the end zone at least. Posluszny and Lynch certainly need to get more PT in the next game. I thought Nall looked solid and Edwards showed promise.

regarding the Saints, Palko was very impressive, apart from a couple mistakes.

 
I know it's just one preseason game but i'll say it looks like a possibility that the Bills spent a ton of money on utter garbage to downgrade........ errrr upgrade the O-line.

 
I know it's just one preseason game but i'll say it looks like a possibility that the Bills spent a ton of money on utter garbage to downgrade........ errrr upgrade the O-line.
way way way way way way too early to make that kind of determination. these guys have only been playing together for a couple weeks or so now.
 
I know it's just one preseason game but i'll say it looks like a possibility that the Bills spent a ton of money on utter garbage to downgrade........ errrr upgrade the O-line.
way way way way way way too early to make that kind of determination. these guys have only been playing together for a couple weeks or so now.
I agree, way way too early is right, just a small observation/concern. I'll worry after week 3 of the regular season if the line doesn't get better, just sayin...
 
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not a great showing from the Bills but they came out with a win, which is a good thing for a young team like this.

Fred Jackson looked great. They should just cut Shaud Williams tomorrow to get more reps for the young RBs.

Josh Reed always looks great in the preseason and then disappears when the season comes around. Have a good feeling about him this year though. Same with Parrish. Bills might want to go with Evans/Parrish on the outside with Reed in the slot. Parrish is small to play outside, but his quickness out there would be scary for defenses.

pretty unimpressive performance by the defense but that was to be expected. they gave up a ton of yards but kept the Saints 1st teamers out of the end zone at least. Posluszny and Lynch certainly need to get more PT in the next game. I thought Nall looked solid and Edwards showed promise.

regarding the Saints, Palko was very impressive, apart from a couple mistakes.
:thumbup: Join the bandwagon while there's still room.

 
Looks like Henderson may be out until the season opener with a hamstring pull. :goodposting:
He made a couple of good catches, but none of his three were all that impressive. He actually looked slow to me and gained no yardage to speak of after the catch. As was already mentioned, he jumped too early on the possible TD and had a bit of a case of alligator arms. Of course, I would have too since if I was about to be sandwiched on that hit. Many in here seemed very impressed with him, I just was not one of them.
 
I thought the Bills looked pretty decent considering they were on the road and playing an opponent who had already played a game this year.

The first string defense couldn't shut down Brees, but with their first crack coming against the best offense in the NFL last year I am not worried about that. They shut down the running game. New Orleans was definitely running a NON VANILLA offense, lots of dump offs catching the Bills upfield. I think there were only a few balls downfield, mainly after the Bills tightened up to shut down the dump offs. I wasn't impressed by the linebacker play on the first string. They toughened up in the red zone and kept New Orleans out of the end zone which was great.

The first string offense didn't look good, I question the play calling. I think they were wanting to see how the run game would fair with the changes to the line. Answer: not good. I don't think Losman was asked to do much so we didn't see much out of him. It was well known that New Orleans secondary is a weakness, so coming out running the ball with A-Train might not have happened if it was a real game. Once Nall came in they did attack the secondary, mainly I think to see more of what they had in Nall and to see what was up with the rest of the receivers on the team after Evans. A little concerned about the Oline, but need to see how they perform in coming weeks.

 
jeter23 said:
Afro Samurai said:
Looks like Henderson may be out until the season opener with a hamstring pull. :thumbup:
He made a couple of good catches, but none of his three were all that impressive. He actually looked slow to me and gained no yardage to speak of after the catch. As was already mentioned, he jumped too early on the possible TD and had a bit of a case of alligator arms. Of course, I would have too since if I was about to be sandwiched on that hit. Many in here seemed very impressed with him, I just was not one of them.
I have not seem anything on the hamstring, wondering if anyone has a link. I guess IMO in watching the game I thought Henderson looked like the best WR the Saints had, Colston looked like he could not get free from coverage, Brees seemed to look Hendersons way the most.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
Afro Samurai said:
Looks like Henderson may be out until the season opener with a hamstring pull. :thumbup:
Do you have a link? I didn't hear anything about Henderson being hurt. Thanks
He was definitely hurt. Took a hit in the endwone, and stayed down through a commercial break.
 
I think JP Losman is the QB sleeper of the year - a guy currently being drafted as a backup who has the best chance to finish in the top 6-8 at his position. Hes got a live arm, some great weapons surrounding him and three full years in the system. I believe this is the year when it comes together for him.

 
FROM NFL.COM,There wereno major injuries, but Payton said Henderson had a hamstring pull while a Bills spokesman said safety Trevor Hooper had a concussion.

 
I think JP Losman is the QB sleeper of the year - a guy currently being drafted as a backup who has the best chance to finish in the top 6-8 at his position. Hes got a live arm, some great weapons surrounding him and three full years in the system. I believe this is the year when it comes together for him.
I think the Bills brutal schedule will limit his upside, and this will only be his 2nd year in Steve Fairchild's offense.
 
Who is Fred Jackson?

I think if used properly, Roscoe Parrish has a real chance to surprise this year.
Jackson Capitalizes On Opportunity

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 8/11/2007 12:53 AM ET

For Fred Jackson the spotlight has been shining in a lot of other directions leading up to the 2007 campaign. First-round pick Marshawn Lynch has been a headliner in training camp. Fourth-round pick Dwayne Wright has proven to be more versatile than originally thought. And Anthony Thomas and Shaud Williams have some NFL seasons under their belt.

But on Friday night Jackson was given the biggest on field opportunity in a game situation and he made the most of it leading the Bills in rushing with 49 on eight carries (6.1 avg.) and a touchdown. He also added a pair of receptions for good measure.

"Just going in you have to know that opportunities are going to be limited so you just go out there and make the best of it," said Jackson. "In this offensive system that coach Steve Fairchild runs we've got to be very versatile and it was just something that I wanted to show that I could do."

Head coach **** Jauron was so taken by Jackson's performance he went out of his way to mention him in the opening comments of his postgame press conference.

"I would be remiss if I didn't mention Freddie Jackson because he did stand out in that football game," Jauron said. "I think anybody that watched it would notice Fred Jackson, the effort he gave and the plays that he made were really good ones."

Jackson recognizes that the Bills offensive backfield is loaded with talented and determined rushers, but he claimed they all set goals as a group.

"We are a very competitive bunch and we love competing with each other," Jackson said. "It was just a night where we set goals to see what we could do."

And Jackson did the most. Entering the game in the third quarter to join rookie quarterback Trent Edwards in the offensive backfield, Jackson got the first drive of the second half off on the right foot as his first four carries went for a total of 18 yards. He also added a 10-yard reception that earned the offense a fresh set of downs. Ultimately however, the drive stalled shortly after the offense entered New Orleans' territory.

On the next possession Jackson was dropped for a four-yard loss on his first carry, but bounced back with a strong run out to the left for a 17-yard touchdown. Jackson broke an attempted shoulder tackle as he came out of the backfield and turned the corner quickly, found the sideline and leaped into the end zone.

And there was no doubt that Jackson was keeping the ball that he carried for his first NFL touchdown.

"I've got a 10-month old son and I'm definitely going to give him that," said Jackson. "It was exciting. The offensive line did a great job tonight and the receivers did a great job blocking downfield and my hat goes off to them."

Jackson wasn't getting too excited about his strong performance in the team's first preseason game. He knows there's a long way to go in an offensive backfield that will likely keep just four backs on the active roster. But right now his head coach is impressed with what he's seeing from the rusher that was on his practice squad last season.

"There are a lot of good things about Fred Jackson and you saw them," said Jauron. "The question was how he would look in an exhibition game. He looked pretty good. I think Fred may just continue to just answer all the questions in the positive as we move on. He's good."
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5048

he was on the Bills practice squad last year, but played in NFL Europe before that.



Running with purpose

April 26, 2006

By Mark Stringfellow

NFL Europe

Every single run he makes is like poetry in motion.

With every leg movement, he swiftly glides forward across the field’s greenery as if it were his personal canvas, with defenses serving as spectators viewing in amazement. Granted, many attempt to disrupt the momentum of the 6-foot-1 / 210 pound triple threat when he’s in his zone, but more often than not he just finds another way to make his presence felt.

Whether returning, rushing or receiving, Fire running back Fred Jackson gets the job done. And his reason is straightforward: “I don’t want to get labeled.”

In this game called football those who have the ball are usually limited to references such as scat backs, fullbacks or just the cut-and-dried running backs.

When stamped with these references it puts a player in a box where he is perceived to do only one thing. That has never been how Jackson wanted to be known.

“A lot of backs get tagged with certain labels and then all of a sudden they can figure you out,” said Jackson. “But if you bring every element to the table, it’s harder for them and it keeps defenses guessing.”

This season Jackson has stayed true to those claims by gaining countless extra-effort yards after initial contact. He’s totaled 644 combined net yards this season and is the only running back of the top three in the league to have balanced yardage across the board.

Jackson makes a living by being versatile, and offensive coordinator Steve Logan says he couldn’t ask for more.

“His lower body strength has been the most surprising thing for me. He’s a real slender hip athlete, but he’s incredibly strong in the lower body and his yards after contact are impressive,” said Logan. “And to top it off, his hands are impeccable and he catches everything thrown to him.”

On just about every play this season, opposing defenders have had the hit-and-miss syndrome when it comes to tackling Jackson. This may have something to do with his uncanny ability to change direction at the drop of a dime, those nimble hip movements Logan alluded to or, even easier, just his perseverance.

Jackson has seen his share of adversity on the green, but like a painter who’s hell bent on capturing the perfect stroke, he’s never dropped the brush.

Hailing from Texas, football is like the rite-of-passage and if you’re not watching it, listening to it or talking about it, then you’re probably playing it. As fate would have it, Jackson would grow up doing the latter with his mom as his guide.

His mom gave him and his twin brother their first taste of football in the second grade. She was their coach for their first four years of football and to this day she still serves as one of Jackson’s many inspirations for the sport. She helped bring his competitive nature to the light and he never blew it out.

Even with his mother’s childhood blessings, she couldn’t prepare her son for the adult lessons he would face following his years at Coe College.

During his stint at Coe, Jackson set single-season rushing record in 2002 with 1,702 yards and 24 touchdowns, while also being named the Iowa Conference MVP of the Aztec Bowl in the same year. Although these accomplishments were all done while participating in track and field, they still weren’t enough to turn enough NFL heads.

“Every scout that I talked to told me it was because I was at a Division III college and it’s hard to make that jump from there to the NFL,” said Jackson. “So they wanted to see me play somewhere else.”

Some scouts who came out to see him believed in his ability. They knew he had all the intangibles of a future NFL back, but they weren’t convinced that he could endure the load of the NFL, because of his previous competition level in college.

Jackson was disappointed, but since these words weren’t anything new to him he rolled with it. As if going through years of Coe College in Cedar Rapids, Iowa wasn’t hard enough for him to withstand, he now had to come up with a way to keep his dream of playing football alive with his years of eligibility behind him.

After learning about the very obscure United Indoor Football League’s Sioux City Bandits in Iowa, he decided to join them. He knew his dream was still attainable, but he would just have to take the road less traveled.

“I had to grind through the (UIF) league for two years, so that I could get my stats up enough for anyone to take notice,” said Jackson.

That anyone happened to be Marv Levy, who’s a graduate of Coe and now General Manager of the Buffalo Bills. Jackson met Levy through his head cach at the Bandits, who was one of the main reasons Jackson joined the team. His coach promised Jackson that if he showed up and put up numbers, that he would get a look from the NFL.

And sure enough he did, but not without a cost.

While there for two years he played for little to nothing, shouldered the load on all areas of offense and also got side jobs when needed. Although the circumstances weren’t the best, Jackson finished two seasons with 2,630 yards, 75 kickoffs returns for 1,467 yards, and 53 touchdowns, while leading his team to their first championship.

“The motivating factor throughout his whole experience there was that he kept producing and kept getting better,” said his fiancé, Danielle Allen. “That in itself was motivating, because he kept taking steps forward from where he started. He was at the bottom, but he always pushed and never gave up.”

After his seemingly endless struggles, “The Silent Assassin” — a nickname given to him by QB Timmy Chang for his play on the field —at last got his chance to connect with Levy, thanks to the coach in Iowa who kept his word.

In turn, Levy offered him an invitation to NFL Europe and Jackson obliged quickly.

Right before his trek across the waters, he was hit with more news that served as extra motivation for him to work his plan and give it every bit of what he’s got while here.

“I found out right before I came over here that my fiancé was pregnant,” said Jackson. “That was definitely something that added fuel to the fire. Now I realize that this is an opportunity to do something with my life that’ll take care of her and my child-to-be.”

Jackson has enjoyed every element of his NFL Europe experience, mainly because this is his best chance to prove to all doubters the truths that he’s known all along.

“With me coming from a Division III school, I never was on a big stage or given that opportunity, so coming over here is by far the biggest stage that I’ve played on since high school,” said Jackson. “Just being over here is something that just gives me a rush and fuels me, but every player will tell you that.”

Even with that statement, his modesty is the one thing that’s instantly noticeable and coach Logan knows that this, among other characteristics, will eventually put Jackson where he yearns to be.

“He’s exactly the guy you’re looking for,” said Logan. “You want him on your team and in your locker room. He’s quiet, serious about what he does, has a good sense of humor, a real mild spirit, and he’s just been a pleasure to have.”

With his wedding set for July 8, one can tell that this triple-threat back has the picture clear in his mind. Now it’s just a matter of applying the finishing touches to his work of art.
http://www.nfleurope.com/teams/story/RHE/9398452

 
I think JP Losman is the QB sleeper of the year - a guy currently being drafted as a backup who has the best chance to finish in the top 6-8 at his position. Hes got a live arm, some great weapons surrounding him and three full years in the system. I believe this is the year when it comes together for him.
I think the Bills brutal schedule will limit his upside, and this will only be his 2nd year in Steve Fairchild's offense.
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Bills info from a fan - Poz was all over the place played real well.Walker aside from the blocked FG, I think played poor.1st team was very out of it. No holes for the run game.Evans dropped a ball and was crunched. Fred Jackson looked great running the ball, I hope he gets Shaud Williams cut.Leonard played poor at safety. Brees picked apart the secondary.The DT's seemed to stop McCalister but Bush ran all over them. Ko Simpson landed a nice hit.Parrish ran solid routes.Price was no where.Wright had trouble picking up blocks.Edwards looked ok, nothing deep all dump offs. JP didn't really take any deep shots either. Lynch was not show cased at all - I know he can do more Greer looked a lot better then Webster - Youboty even too.Lindell drilled a 54 yarder with easeAiken made a lot of possesion type hitch route and curl grabs, showed good hands.O-line in general looked un-organized. Saints line stopped any 1st string rush from the Bills ( I don't think they tried blitzing)
This is pretty much exactly how I saw the game. The DTs were absolutely terrible. The Saints would run the ball right up the middle and there wouldn't be a single DT in sight. It was no wonder both DiG and Poz look great out there. With the DTs getting blown up all over the place, the MLBs had to make all the plays in the running game. Shaud Williams has never done a thing to show that he could be special in any way. I'll be really upset if Fred Jackson doesn't make the team over him. I've like Jackson since he was dominating in NFL Europe a couple of years ago. IMO, the only guy that I think is actually more talented than him is Lynch.Price shouldn't make this team. He hasn't had a very good training camp and was very lackluster last night. Reed is looking great in preseason. Again. The word is that JP really does love him though. So let's just hope that he can actually carry it over to the regular season finally. Parrish was terrific last night. Evans, Reed and Parrish on the field at the same time has the potential to be very high powered.The O-line was terrible last night. Fowler was about the only guy that didn't look awful. The play that Peters got called for holding on, he also should have been called for a false start. Amazing how you can start early and still get beaten so badly that you have to hold the guy. I was more disappointed by that than I was Walker getting beaten over and over again. I didn't think that Dockery was too bad, but there definitely wasn't a lot of holes to run through either. I do have to say though, the Saints do have one of the better pass rushing duos in the NFL in Smith and Grant. So it was a pretty decent test. Unfortunately the Bills pretty much got a D on that test.Greer was much better than Webster last night. Although I do believe that Webster was coming off of an ankle injury that has him sidelined for awhile. The secondary got eaten up pretty good last night though. Brees was just going right down the field on them. The Buffalo special teams was awesome last night. Looks like it will be another season of Buffalo finishing with the #1 special teams unit in the NFL again. Bobby April :thumbup: Even that other punter the Bills had in last night was doing a tremendous job. He was booming them downfield with tons of hangtime and great placement. It wouldn't suprise me to see him end up with the starting job for another team after the Bills have to let him go.
 
I think JP Losman is the QB sleeper of the year - a guy currently being drafted as a backup who has the best chance to finish in the top 6-8 at his position. Hes got a live arm, some great weapons surrounding him and three full years in the system. I believe this is the year when it comes together for him.
I think the Bills brutal schedule will limit his upside, and this will only be his 2nd year in Steve Fairchild's offense.
Aaron, are you basing this on the DVOA/KUBIAK pojections? If so have you found these to be accurate in the past? I see that Buffalo is ranked near the bottom in both passing and rushing schedules...
 
I think JP Losman is the QB sleeper of the year - a guy currently being drafted as a backup who has the best chance to finish in the top 6-8 at his position. Hes got a live arm, some great weapons surrounding him and three full years in the system. I believe this is the year when it comes together for him.
I think the Bills brutal schedule will limit his upside, and this will only be his 2nd year in Steve Fairchild's offense.
Aaron, are you basing this on the DVOA/KUBIAK pojections? If so have you found these to be accurate in the past? I see that Buffalo is ranked near the bottom in both passing and rushing schedules...
no, I'm basing it on looking at their schedule.Denver@ Pittsburgh@ New EnglandNY JetsDallasBaltimore@ NY JetsCincinnati@ MiamiNew England@ Jacksonville@ WashingtonMiami@ClevelandNY Giants@ Philadelphiathere's a lot of good defenses in that group, especially over the first 2 months of the season. wouldn't surprise me if people are disappointed with Losman halfway through the season given some of these matchups, but he may be set up to finish strong again just like he did a year ago.
 
I think JP Losman is the QB sleeper of the year - a guy currently being drafted as a backup who has the best chance to finish in the top 6-8 at his position. Hes got a live arm, some great weapons surrounding him and three full years in the system. I believe this is the year when it comes together for him.
I think the Bills brutal schedule will limit his upside, and this will only be his 2nd year in Steve Fairchild's offense.
Aaron, are you basing this on the DVOA/KUBIAK pojections? If so have you found these to be accurate in the past? I see that Buffalo is ranked near the bottom in both passing and rushing schedules...
no, I'm basing it on looking at their schedule.Denver@ Pittsburgh@ New EnglandNY JetsDallasBaltimore@ NY JetsCincinnati@ MiamiNew England@ Jacksonville@ WashingtonMiami@ClevelandNY Giants@ Philadelphiathere's a lot of good defenses in that group, especially over the first 2 months of the season. wouldn't surprise me if people are disappointed with Losman halfway through the season given some of these matchups, but he may be set up to finish strong again just like he did a year ago.
Yes, the first half of the season is definitely worisome. But the playoffs (MIA, CLE, NYG) couldnt be better. In Losman's situation I wouldnt look too much at his projected season-long statistics if youre not planning on starting him from the get-go. Since most people are targetting him as a backup, the likelihood of him starting early in the season is slim anyway. If he can make it past the Ravens in week six with this confidence still in tact, I can see a very productive second half of the season. He could be a great relief QB at the midway point of the year if your #1 QB tanks.
 

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