Carl the floor walker
Footballguy
I think these guys were lefty's:
Doug Nussmeier
Peter Tom Willis (not sure if he ever threw a pass)
Doug Nussmeier
Peter Tom Willis (not sure if he ever threw a pass)
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Black QBs, Lefthanded QBs (2 Viewers)
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Will Furrer was white.(j/k)
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
David Mays played for the Browns in the 70's. He was a black qb.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
On the original list.
footballjunkie
Footballguy
Jeff Carlson - Bucs backup QB in the early 90's was a lefty.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
So far we have 46 black QBs that have thrown a pass in an NFL game.
Tarvaris Jackson
Vince Young
Jason Campbell
Seneca Wallace
Quinn Gray
Cleo Lemon
Byron Leftwich
Henry Burris
Rohan Davey
David Garrard
Quincy Carter
Jarious Jackson
Tee Martin
Michael Vick
Aaron Brooks
Michael Bishop
Dameyune Craig
Anthony Wright
Spergon Wynn
Daunte Culpepper
Shaun King
Donovan McNabb
Akili Smith
Charlie Batch
Wally Richardson
Tony Banks
Ray Lucas
Steve McNair
Kordell Stewart
Jeff Blake
Shawn Moore
Andre Ware
Rodney Peete
Reggie Collier
Randall Cunningham
Warren Moon
Doug Williams
Vince Evans
Parnell Dickinson
Dave Mays
Tony Adams
Joe Gilliam
James Harris
Marlin Briscoe
Willie Thrower
George Taliaferro
Anyone else?
Tarvaris Jackson
Vince Young
Jason Campbell
Seneca Wallace
Quinn Gray
Cleo Lemon
Byron Leftwich
Henry Burris
Rohan Davey
David Garrard
Quincy Carter
Jarious Jackson
Tee Martin
Michael Vick
Aaron Brooks
Michael Bishop
Dameyune Craig
Anthony Wright
Spergon Wynn
Daunte Culpepper
Shaun King
Donovan McNabb
Akili Smith
Charlie Batch
Wally Richardson
Tony Banks
Ray Lucas
Steve McNair
Kordell Stewart
Jeff Blake
Shawn Moore
Andre Ware
Rodney Peete
Reggie Collier
Randall Cunningham
Warren Moon
Doug Williams
Vince Evans
Parnell Dickinson
Dave Mays
Tony Adams
Joe Gilliam
James Harris
Marlin Briscoe
Willie Thrower
George Taliaferro
Anyone else?
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Trivia time: Name the three franchises that have never had a black QB throw a pass in a game.
cliffhuxtible
Footballguy
Ken Anderson had a great career as an african american QB, including a super bowl.
Rovers
Footballguy
Gee.... can I start a thread about right handed white QB's? Sorry, but the entire race thing as it relates to the NFL is useless freakin drivel. Makes as much sense as talking about white running backs. WHO gives a flyin rat's butt? And why in the world would staff start such a thread? It's FF. You draft the best players. NFL teams draft the best players. I don't care if a stud DE is from Syria or Japan. I don't understand why topics like this are ever started. Some day, maybe, race won't have to be a point if debate or discussion, but it's topics like this that extend that sort of debate. Rush Limberger would be proud.
Theo Epstein
Footballguy
Black QB - Quincy Carter
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Yep, he was nicknamed "Boomer Junior" or something like that. Had an 8-year career as a backup but never panned out as Cincy's QB Of The Future.I saw that Terry Baker was also mentioned -- wasn't he the only left-handed QB to win the Heisman?Here's another possible lefty QB: George McAfee, who played QB at Duke in the '40s but converted to RB in the NFL. However, he had 11 pass attempts his rookie year which makes me think that he spent some time at QB as well.
turkishkamel
Footballguy
Leinart won the Heisman
turkishkamel
Footballguy
PTW threw 183 NFL passes. all with his right hand/armI think these guys were lefty'soug NussmeierPeter Tom Willis (not sure if he ever threw a pass)
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turkishkamel
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also, what about a guy like randle el who is a WR but has lined up at QB a few times a year over his career. not actually a QB, but has taken the snap from center and thrown a pass. steelers fans can help me out here but i believe there was a game a few years back when ARE was forced into emergency duty as QB and threw several passes.
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Frankie Albert, 1946-1952 49ersTerry Baker, 1963-1965 RamsBobby Douglass, 1969-1975 Bears; 1975 Chargers; 1976-1977 Saints; 1978 PackersJim Del Gaizo, 1972 Dolphins; 1973 Packers; 1974 GiantsDavid Humm, 1975-1979, 1983-1984 Raiders; 1980 Bills; 1981-1982 ColtsJosh Heupel, 2001 Dolphins; 2002 Packers (on roster, never appeared in an NFL game)Jared Lorenzen, 2006-2007 Giants
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
Matt Lytle (Carolina) and Dave Ragone (Houston) in the last few years.
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
Just found this list, think you have most of them though...
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~maxymuk/home/passing/qblh.html
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~maxymuk/home/passing/qblh.html
Seymour Corn
it=info
Chase Stuart said:
Best Qb name evah!
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I had not included 2007 data in my query, so I missed Anthony Wright on the Giants. Good catch. George Taliaferro QBed the Baltimore Colts for two seasons in the '50s, so that leaves just the Packers and 49ers as the only teams (by my rough count) to never have had a black QB throw a pass.GordonGekko said:
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
To add to the lefty list:
Tony Graziani - now tearing it up in the Arena League.
Tony Graziani - now tearing it up in the Arena League.
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
How can you forget the most improbably named black QB of all time?
Bruce Gradkowski
Bruce Gradkowski
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I could swear I remember the Niners having a black quarterback for the replacement player games back in '87. Am I on drugs?(possible)
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Gradkowski is white and Polish, no?
Utter Chaos
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Great resource, thanks!I'd really love to have a COMPLETE list of all lefty QBs ever. Let's keep it rollingLord Lucan said:
[scooter]
Footballguy
I believe he was referring to Mark Stevens and/or Ed Blount, who were the backups on that strike team. Both were black.
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phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Testaverde Marino are Sicilian surnames, and that's pretty close.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Here's a list of black QBs who played on the 1987 strike teams:
Walter Briggs (Jets)
Homer Jordan (was apparently on the Cleveland roster)
Mark Stevens (49ers)
Ed Blount (49ers; never threw a pass though)
Larry Miller (Vikings)
Willie Gillus (Packers)
Tony Adams (Chiefs)
Reggie Collier (Steelers)
Bernard Quarles (Rams)
Tony Robinson (Redskins)
Vince Evans (Raiders)
Willie Totten (Bills)
Lots of data here: http://www.bqb-site.com/Timeline.htm and here: http://www.bqb-site.com/bqboverall.htm
So, it looks like the Packers and 49ers have had black QBs after all.
Walter Briggs (Jets)
Homer Jordan (was apparently on the Cleveland roster)
Mark Stevens (49ers)
Ed Blount (49ers; never threw a pass though)
Larry Miller (Vikings)
Willie Gillus (Packers)
Tony Adams (Chiefs)
Reggie Collier (Steelers)
Bernard Quarles (Rams)
Tony Robinson (Redskins)
Vince Evans (Raiders)
Willie Totten (Bills)
Lots of data here: http://www.bqb-site.com/Timeline.htm and here: http://www.bqb-site.com/bqboverall.htm
So, it looks like the Packers and 49ers have had black QBs after all.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
It looks like you're right about Stevens. Blount didn't throw a pass, though.
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1987: Several African American Quarterbacks get to play in the NFL in replacement games including: Walter Briggs from Montclair (New York Jets 1987), Homer Jordan from Clemson (Cleveland Browns 1987), Ed Blount from Washington State (San Francisco 49ers 1987), Mark Stevens from Utah (San Francisco 49ers 1987), Larry Miller from Northern Iowa (Minnesota Vikings 1987), Willie Gillus from Norfolk State (Green Bay Packers 1987), Tony Adams from Utah State (KC Chiefs 1987), Reggie Collier from South Mississippi (Pittsburgh 1987) Bernard Quarles from Hawaii (LA Rams 1987), Tony Robinson from Tennessee (Washington Redskins 1987), Vince Evans from USC (Raiders 1987) and Willie Totten from Mississippi Valley State (Buffalo Bills 1987).Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Sorry you guys didn't like the thread. I start lots of useless ones. But let's not turn this into an FFA post.Fortunately, everyone in the thread has been very cool so far, and we've gotten a lot of good information and links here.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Thanks, scooter.I know position designations were murky back then, but I don't think Pollard was really a QB. He was inducted into the HOF as a halfback, and I think that was his primary position. I don't know if he lined up as a QB and threw any passes (can't find any stats on that), but it looks like he did take snaps from center. Good catch on Brackins. He did have two incomplete passes in '55.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Any more updates on finding the lefties?
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Mark Stevens. That's the guy I was remembering. I was pretty sure I could recall Walsh running the friggin' wishbone in a game against....I think it was the Giants....and Stevens was manning the controls.
As to the point of this thread....why does there have to be any point to it other than Chase was curious as to how many total black/lefthanded QBs there have been? A few of you have broken out your trusty Conclusion Mats, apparently.
As to the point of this thread....why does there have to be any point to it other than Chase was curious as to how many total black/lefthanded QBs there have been? A few of you have broken out your trusty Conclusion Mats, apparently.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
From Paul Perillo:
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Oakland’s Ken Stabler, Cincinnati’s Boomer Esiason, Seattle’s Jim Zorn, former Raider Todd Marinovich, Washington’s Mark Brunell, former Lion Scott Mitchell, Chicago’s Bobby Douglass, current Tampa backup Chris Simms and of course, current Falcons standout Michael Vick. Also, Seattle rookie David Greene and current Heisman Trophy winner Matt Leinart of USC are lefties. As for the Patriots, the only lefty I can remember is Jeff Carlson, who played three games in 1992.Paul “Southpaw” PerilloChase Stuart
Footballguy
Was this link provided before?
http://www.blackathlete.net/artman/publish...cle_01599.shtml
Another good resource there.
http://www.blackathlete.net/artman/publish...cle_01599.shtml
Another good resource there.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Already named, but
Will provide an updated list in a bit. I'm getting confident that we're almost 100% complete with the black QB list, and probably north of 75% complete on the lefties.TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Databasefootball.com lists multiple positions for Pollard, including QB. And it also credits him with 3 TD passes in 1925.
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
Of Polish decent, presumably. White, not by typical American standards:http://www.nfl.com/players/brucegradkowski...le?id=GRA068015
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Cool. For those of you that are young or didn't know, Totten was Jerry Rice' quarterback in college.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Briggs checks. Jordan never threw a pass. Stevens checks. Blount also never threw a pass. Miller checks. Gillus checks. Tony Adams must have quite the story. He QB'ed for the Chiefs until '78, and then came back for Min in '87. He was also on my original list, which is good.
Collier played in '86, and was not strictly a replacement player.
Quarles checks. So do Robinson and Totten. Obviously Evans stuck around.
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Please See Mine
Footballguy
Joe Hamilton did play in a couple games, but I can't find a record of him actually throwing a pass.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
List up to 55 black quarterbacks to throw a pass in the NFL. Great job for everyone with all the help. If anyone can think of anyone missing from the list,
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Tarvaris Jackson Alabama State 2006 minVince Young Texas 2006 otiJason Campbell Auburn 2005 wasSeneca Wallace Iowa State 2005 seaQuinn Gray Florida A&M 2004 jaxCleo Lemon Arkansas State 2004 miaByron Leftwich Marshall 2003 jaxHenry Burris Temple 2002 chiRohan Davey LSU 2002 nweDavid Garrard East Carolina 2002 jaxQuincy Carter Georgia 2001 dalJarious Jackson Notre Dame 2001 denTee Martin Tennessee 2001 pitMichael Vick Virginia Tech 2001 atlAaron Brooks Virginia 2000 norMichael Bishop Kansas State 2000 nweDameyune Craig Auburn 2000 carAnthony Wright South Carolina 2000 dalSpergon Wynn Southwest Texas State 2000 cleDaunte Culpepper Central Florida 1999 minShaun King Tulane 1999 tamDonovan McNabb Syracuse 1999 phiAkili Smith Oregon 1999 cinCharlie Batch Eastern Michigan 1998 detWally Richardson Penn State 1997 ravTony Banks Michigan State 1996 ramRay Lucas Rutgers 1996 nweSteve McNair Alcorn State 1995 otiKordell Stewart Colorado 1995 pitJeff Blake East Carolina 1992 nyjShawn Moore Virginia 1992 denAndre Ware Houston 1990 detRodney Peete USC 1989 detMark Stevens Utah 1987 sfoWalter Briggs Montclair State 1987 nyjLarry Miller Northern Iowa 1987 minWillie Gillus Norfolk State 1987 gnbBernard Quarles Hawaii 1987 ramTony Robinson Tennessee 1987 wasWillie Toten Mississippi Valley State 1987 bufReggie Collier Southern Mississippi 1986 dalRandall Cunningham Nevada-Las Vegas 1985 phiWarren Moon Washington 1984 otiDoug Williams Grambling State 1978 tamVince Evans USC 1977 chiParnell Dickinson Mississippi Valley State 1976 tamDave Mays Texas Southern 1976 cleTony Adams Utah State 1975 kanJoe Gilliam Tennessee State 1972 pitJames Harris Grambling State 1969 bufMarlin Briscoe Nebraska-Omaha 1968 denCharlie Brackins Prairie View A&M 1955 gnbWillie Thrower Michigan State 1953 chiGeorge Taliaferro Indiana 1950 nyyFritz Pollard Brown 1920 akrChase Stuart
Footballguy
As far as I can tell, he never did.
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