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Blade Runner (1 Viewer)

Koya said:
Insein said:
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
You are only looking at this from the vantage point of someone that wouldn't WANT to place a ticking time bomb (or something?) in the police force.

If your ultimate aim was aided by having a replicant planted, then we have a whole new scenario.

 
Koya said:
Insein said:
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
You are only looking at this from the vantage point of someone that wouldn't WANT to place a ticking time bomb (or something?) in the police force.

If your ultimate aim was aided by having a replicant planted, then we have a whole new scenario.
Sure but then we're getting into crazy what if scenarios. I don't remember Tyrell mentioning he wanted or did do that. Maybe I missed that part.

 
Koya said:
Insein said:
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
does this happen in the movie?

IIRC, they have limited life-spans... I don't remember going crazy as one of the problems with the replicants.
Yeah my take is that they went "crazy" because one of the few emotions they had was the panic of impending death. That's enough to make anyone go crazy.

 
Koya said:
Insein said:
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
does this happen in the movie?

IIRC, they have limited life-spans... I don't remember going crazy as one of the problems with the replicants.
Yeah my take is that they went "crazy" because one of the few emotions they had was the panic of impending death. That's enough to make anyone go crazy.
agree- impending death and the reality of unfairness humanity.

 
Koya said:
Insein said:
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
does this happen in the movie?IIRC, they have limited life-spans... I don't remember going crazy as one of the problems with the replicants.
Yeah my take is that they went "crazy" because one of the few emotions they had was the panic of impending death. That's enough to make anyone go crazy.
agree- impending death and the reality of unfairness humanity.
But they built in the failsafe because of the instability. The instability was there before they limited their lifespan.
 
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Koya said:
Insein said:
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
You are only looking at this from the vantage point of someone that wouldn't WANT to place a ticking time bomb (or something?) in the police force.

If your ultimate aim was aided by having a replicant planted, then we have a whole new scenario.
Sure but then we're getting into crazy what if scenarios. I don't remember Tyrell mentioning he wanted or did do that. Maybe I missed that part.
I'm not suggesting that there is something we missed, but it's certainly possible. Perhaps Decker is not human made, or made for motives that are not on par with who we see as the "good guys" in the film.

Or, maybe the "instability" was taken care of and Decker has some additional sense or force driving him. Who knows?

 
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
You are only looking at this from the vantage point of someone that wouldn't WANT to place a ticking time bomb (or something?) in the police force.

If your ultimate aim was aided by having a replicant planted, then we have a whole new scenario.
Sure but then we're getting into crazy what if scenarios. I don't remember Tyrell mentioning he wanted or did do that. Maybe I missed that part.
I'm not suggesting that there is something we missed, but it's certainly possible. Perhaps Decker is not human made, or made for motives that are not on par with who we see as the "good guys" in the film.

Or, maybe the "instability" was taken care of and Decker has some additional sense or force driving him. Who knows?
But none of that was hinted at or alluded to in any part of the film. So how could any one make the leap to "he's a replicant?"

 
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
You are only looking at this from the vantage point of someone that wouldn't WANT to place a ticking time bomb (or something?) in the police force.

If your ultimate aim was aided by having a replicant planted, then we have a whole new scenario.
Sure but then we're getting into crazy what if scenarios. I don't remember Tyrell mentioning he wanted or did do that. Maybe I missed that part.
I'm not suggesting that there is something we missed, but it's certainly possible. Perhaps Decker is not human made, or made for motives that are not on par with who we see as the "good guys" in the film.

Or, maybe the "instability" was taken care of and Decker has some additional sense or force driving him. Who knows?
But none of that was hinted at or alluded to in any part of the film. So how could any one make the leap to "he's a replicant?"
in the director's cut, they showed him dreaming about unicorns, IIRC- then "too bad she won't live" detective leaves an origami unicorn at his door, sim to what he did with Rachel... again, IIRC. I think there were a couple of other hints in the director's cut... but not in the original cut.

 
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
You are only looking at this from the vantage point of someone that wouldn't WANT to place a ticking time bomb (or something?) in the police force.

If your ultimate aim was aided by having a replicant planted, then we have a whole new scenario.
Sure but then we're getting into crazy what if scenarios. I don't remember Tyrell mentioning he wanted or did do that. Maybe I missed that part.
I'm not suggesting that there is something we missed, but it's certainly possible. Perhaps Decker is not human made, or made for motives that are not on par with who we see as the "good guys" in the film.

Or, maybe the "instability" was taken care of and Decker has some additional sense or force driving him. Who knows?
But none of that was hinted at or alluded to in any part of the film. So how could any one make the leap to "he's a replicant?"
in the director's cut, they showed him dreaming about unicorns, IIRC- then "too bad she won't live" detective leaves an origami unicorn at his door, sim to what he did with Rachel... again, IIRC. I think there were a couple of other hints in the director's cut... but not in the original cut.
Flimsy. Even on an artistic level. I get the big reveal is shocking but there's little to no build up to it and logistically goes against the basic premise of why they retire the replicants.

 
I prefer the idea that Decker, Rachel and others might be replicants. Gives them and the movie much more depth into what it means to be human vs non.

Take that away, and it's people hunting/shooting robots- which, Rutger Hauer's performance aside, is a bit shallow.

 
I prefer the idea that Decker, Rachel and others might be replicants. Gives them and the movie much more depth into what it means to be human vs non.

Take that away, and it's people hunting/shooting robots- which, Rutger Hauer's performance aside, is a bit shallow.
That's pretty much what I took it for. Which is why I think of it as a pretty good sci fi movie but not some classic.

 
I prefer the idea that Decker, Rachel and others might be replicants. Gives them and the movie much more depth into what it means to be human vs non.

Take that away, and it's people hunting/shooting robots- which, Rutger Hauer's performance aside, is a bit shallow.
That's pretty much what I took it for. Which is why I think of it as a pretty good sci fi movie but not some classic.
Most of the movie is dialog. The action scenes really are not that big a part of the movie except the final scene which is awesome.

 
Look I can get on board with the symbolism.

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does"

But why have a special force of blade runners hunt down replicants because they all eventually go crazy and keep one near by going against everything the unit was created for. That's just logistically stupid.
Logistically stupid for whom? Because for whom it may be logistically / strategically advantageous it's a nice lil rouse
If the reason they are retired is because they all go crazy at some point, why would you place a ticking time bomb in the police force?
You are only looking at this from the vantage point of someone that wouldn't WANT to place a ticking time bomb (or something?) in the police force.

If your ultimate aim was aided by having a replicant planted, then we have a whole new scenario.
Sure but then we're getting into crazy what if scenarios. I don't remember Tyrell mentioning he wanted or did do that. Maybe I missed that part.
I'm not suggesting that there is something we missed, but it's certainly possible. Perhaps Decker is not human made, or made for motives that are not on par with who we see as the "good guys" in the film.

Or, maybe the "instability" was taken care of and Decker has some additional sense or force driving him. Who knows?
But none of that was hinted at or alluded to in any part of the film. So how could any one make the leap to "he's a replicant?"
in the director's cut, they showed him dreaming about unicorns, IIRC- then "too bad she won't live" detective leaves an origami unicorn at his door, sim to what he did with Rachel... again, IIRC. I think there were a couple of other hints in the director's cut... but not in the original cut.
Your recollections are correct I believe.

That's why, when I saw the theatre version AFTER the directors cut I felt it was half the film and none of the meaning.

The DC just has so much depth

 

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