Superman 2025 (1 Viewer)

[Capella]

neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

I mean he literally saves a squirrel and then goes nuts saving a dog. Seems like that has a lot about kindness to living creatures.

I liked it a lot. Certainly not my favorite movie ever but I was way into it and am going to take my son to see it this weekend as well.

 

[fatness]

I guess I'll be the contrarian and say that I didn't like it at all.

I have a laundry list of things I rolled my eyes at; from the barely better than The Flash CGI to the ranging from uninteresting to downright annoying characters, and finishing with the Dog Ex Machina device of Krypto.

The worst was the outright changing of basic Superman mythos. Okay, that's not true - the worst was Guy Gardner's Anton Chigurh haircut. I know that's what the character looks like but that doesn't mean I want to see it on the big screen.

At least it wasn't woke like it was suspected to be. But neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

You kind of expected to dislike it, right?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I guess I'll be the contrarian and say that I didn't like it at all.

I have a laundry list of things I rolled my eyes at; from the barely better than The Flash CGI to the ranging from uninteresting to downright annoying characters, and finishing with the Dog Ex Machina device of Krypto.

The worst was the outright changing of basic Superman mythos. Okay, that's not true - the worst was Guy Gardner's Anton Chigurh haircut. I know that's what the character looks like but that doesn't mean I want to see it on the big screen.

At least it wasn't woke like it was suspected to be. But neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

You kind of expected to dislike it, right?

No. That was just about the director stepping in it, rather ironically.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

I mean he literally saves a squirrel and then goes nuts saving a dog. Seems like that has a lot about kindness to living creatures.

I liked it a lot. Certainly not my favorite movie ever but I was way into it and am going to take my son to see it this weekend as well.

Individual acts, sure. But as a central theme explored it developed in ways not already baked into the character or explored over the years? Not really.

 

[Capella]

neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

I mean he literally saves a squirrel and then goes nuts saving a dog. Seems like that has a lot about kindness to living creatures.

I liked it a lot. Certainly not my favorite movie ever but I was way into it and am going to take my son to see it this weekend as well.

Individual acts, sure. But as a central theme explored it developed in ways not already baked into the character or explored over the years? Not really.

I don’t think anybody said they were trying to break new ground with the character here. They were trying to return him to his optimistic roots after the darker version in man of steel and that stupid *** Batman/Superman movie.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

I mean he literally saves a squirrel and then goes nuts saving a dog. Seems like that has a lot about kindness to living creatures.

I liked it a lot. Certainly not my favorite movie ever but I was way into it and am going to take my son to see it this weekend as well.

Individual acts, sure. But as a central theme explored it developed in ways not already baked into the character or explored over the years? Not really.

I don’t think anybody said they were trying to break new ground with the character here. They were trying to return him to his optimistic roots after the darker version in man of steel and that stupid *** Batman/Superman movie.

I can agree they at least did that - although I'll always be a defender of MoS. But yeah, anything after that is unwatchable.

 

[ChicoCat]

neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

I mean he literally saves a squirrel and then goes nuts saving a dog. Seems like that has a lot about kindness to living creatures.

I liked it a lot. Certainly not my favorite movie ever but I was way into it and am going to take my son to see it this weekend as well.

Individual acts, sure. But as a central theme explored it developed in ways not already baked into the character or explored over the years? Not really.

I don’t think anybody said they were trying to break new ground with the character here. They were trying to return him to his optimistic roots after the darker version in man of steel and that stupid *** Batman/Superman movie.

One of the key narratives in old school comic book talk was that the two most important characters in DC Comics were Ma and Pa Kent; simply because they raised a good, caring child who would do anything to help people. I think Gunn was trying to get back to this.....particularly after Pa Kents kind of weird, cynical take on what Superman should do in the Man of Steel movie.

 

[-OZ-]

There are certainly a few things that could have been done better imo, or at least I would have preferred. A few thoughts

Spoiler

Green lantern - it’s just my age and when I followed but Hal Jordan will always be my Green lantern.

The video - that Clark was unable to see part of it but Lex and the engineer seem to have had no issue is a bit off imo. Not horrible and clearly had a huge impact on the story

Justice gang - only 3 people? I get that they probably didn’t want to bring in another Batman, Wonder Woman or flash yet, but Green arrow, Atom, Black canary or a bunch of others could have joined.

Mr terrific lived up to his name

I don’t love bringing in Super Girl at the end like that but she could be an interesting character and is the next movie.

Both of us thought krypto was a lot like our golden doodle. If ours could fly.

 

[Statorama]

I saw it and really liked it! I'd give it a B+ overall. Much lighter in tone than the depressing Snyder movies. Lots of comic easter eggs in there. I think David and Rachel did a great job as Supes and Lois. Christopher Reeves is still the top Superman in my book (well for the first 2 movies, 3 and 4 were trash), but David did a great job. I really like Henry Cavill, but his material wasn't up to snuff. I thought Hoult was just OK as Lex Luthor, Gene Hackman remains the bar for the character.

Nathan Fillion was great in his role, and I like the other 2 members of the gang as well. Looking forward to see how they expand it. Krypto was awesome. There is a cameo at the end I won't spoil, but I didn't like the first interaction with that character (although my son told me it is somewhat comic accurate).

I didn't see the movie being political at all, and that is from someone who is center-right. I really think if you were offended by anything in that movie, you went in expecting to be offended and reached for something.

Well said. While I have a soft spot for 'Superman: The Movie' in general and Reeve's performance in particular, this might be my favorite Superman movie. It's not flawless by any means, but it's the one I feel I'll revisit the most. It is definitely the most "comic booky" of the Superman movies.

From other comments in here:

• This movie is not political at all. Very refreshing.
• Superman isn't "all powerful" in this. He gets his butt handed to him on the regular, and he gets bailed out by the Justice Gang.
• I would have liked to have seen the movie open with Superman stopping the war (instead of it being a one-off line of dialogue). That would have given more weight to the first interview with Lois. She was coming at things from a philosophical point of view and Superman was literally the boots on the ground.
• The cameo at the end ties directly to a comics series - if you're a fan you'll get it right away. Looking forward to what they setup if Gunn is involved in that project. (ESPECIALLY if it includes the Red Lantern run)
• This movie is corny. He saves a squirrel for gosh sakes. This isn't Man of Steel.
• There are some ties to Doomsday in this, one of the many Easter eggs in here. If you're a DC fan, there's a lot that will make you smile.
• I'm getting a Superman movie with Metamorpho and Guy Gardner? Hypno-Glasses? Dimensional Imps? Hell yeah.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It was ok.
Comparing to the two recent Marvel films, it was much better than Captain America but I liked Thunderbolts* much better.

 

[Psychopav]

It was ok.
Comparing to the two recent Marvel films, it was much better than Captain America but I liked Thunderbolts* much better.

+1

 

[Orange&Blue]

want to take the family, but kids are 10 & 10...would it be okay for them?

 

[fruity pebbles]

want to take the family, but kids are 10 & 10...would it be okay for them?

Oh yeah

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

the worst was Guy Gardner's Anton Chigurh haircut

That really is dire. Social media would be brutal.

 

[ChicoCat]

Saw it last night.

Spoiler free observations:

The first 30 minutes or so are a little disjointed. Gunn drops you into an already established universe and the first 30 minutes you're finding your heading.

Nicholas Hoult and David Corenswet are great in their roles. Hoult in particular. I think his is the best Lex Luthor...by far (RIP Gene Hackman). Like all great comic villains...he's not exactly WRONG in his reasonings.

I don't think Brandon Routh gets enough credit for being a Christopher Reeve style Superman (lets all admit...Reeve is the best)....but Corenswet is an excellent Gen Z version of a Christopher Reeve Superman.

In typical Gunn fashion (particularly Guardians 3 Gunn) he'll tug on the heart strings a bit.....but none of the characters are as pop-ish or snarky as the Guardians characters.

Snyders Man of Steel gave us a great physical threat in Michael Shannons Zod....but Gunn gives us a Superman who does feel vulnerable. Some don't like him being a little de-powered, but it does add to the story.

Gunn did a great setting up future movies in this DCU. It really does feel like it has the potential to be as limitless as the MCU.

Great writeup, even if we differ a little on Hoult. You brought up something I meant to mention. I've never been the biggest Superman fan because he is often portrayed as being too powerful. The stakes don't seem to be there since he is nigh invulnerable (I really loved how they exploited one of his known weaknesses though). In this movie, he did not seem all powerful, which I actually appreciated.

I said "by far" and that's a stretch as I really do like Hackman. To me though, Hackman's Luthor seemed to rely more on Supermans conscience and sense of morality in formulating plans to defeat him. Hoult's Luthor felt legitimately dangerous and I think he did a great job portraying a man who genuinely believes he has the talent, ability, determination and even moral superiority to beat Superman.

 

[Johnnie Nepal]

want to take the family, but kids are 10 & 10...would it be okay for them?

I say absolutely, but to each their own. My 10 year old daughter enjoyed it.

Comparing other Gunn productions; this is more in line with Guardians and no where near The Suicide Squad or Peacemaker.

 

[Johnnie Nepal]

Summer blockbuster movie by a Writer/Director that I have historically enjoyed to the utmost.

I've seen it twice now, second viewing is just as enjoyable as the first. Fantastic kick off to the latest DC universe.

 

[waiver wire]

I really enjoyed it. I liked that he wasn't all powerful.
8 or 8.5 out of 10

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I keep hearing how Superman wasn’t all-powerful and got his *** kicked, which was true, but wasn’t he getting his *** kicked by his clone that had Luther feeding him fight strategy?

So he got beat up by himself a few times.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

You might want to spoiler that

 

[Payne]

Watched it Tuesday.

I enjoyed it. I like Gunn's sense of humor and how he incorporates it into his movies.
I feel that is missing from a lot of superhero movies.

Story was good. CGI was good. It was good. Not great....good.

Not nearly enough Mikaela Hoover.

 

[Hastur]

Did my 'once every 2 years or so' visit to the theatre today and saw it. I give it a 8. They did a good job.

 

[Buckna]

Saw it this weekend, thought it was very good. Certainly much better than the Snyder versions. Cast did a great job, could see how some might try to bend some of the plot points into social/political commentary if you squint hard enough but didn't bother me any.

Ultimately Krypto made the movie IMO.

 

[Todem]

I guess I'll be the contrarian and say that I didn't like it at all.

I have a laundry list of things I rolled my eyes at; from the barely better than The Flash CGI to the ranging from uninteresting to downright annoying characters, and finishing with the Dog Ex Machina device of Krypto.

The worst was the outright changing of basic Superman mythos. Okay, that's not true - the worst was Guy Gardner's Anton Chigurh haircut. I know that's what the character looks like but that doesn't mean I want to see it on the big screen.

At least it wasn't woke like it was suspected to be. But neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

1/4 stars for me.

Easily the worst Superman Movie I ever saw not named Superman IV The Quest For Peace.

Changing the cannon about Jorel and Lara was downright dirty and awful. And Ma and PA Kent? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!!!! Portrayed them as idiots.

Superman was a wuss in this movie. Total wuss. The story was disjointed, so many roll my eyes moments. Just baaaaaaaad.

Saving grace were some good performances by Superman, Lex and Mr Terrific but that's it......the rest was cringe inducing.

The Justice League (gang as they called it) was cringe worthy crap.

So these guys at Warner Brothers got together and said "Hey Snyders Justice League Trilogy (which is good BTW not great but worlds better than this garbage that was rolled out as a restart for the DCU) was too dark let's take the Marvel Approach and make constant one liners, be funny, goofy blah blah blah.

Dude.......DC ain't Marvel.

Anyway we have our good DC flicks to watch......too bad for the new generation this is their supposed Superman.


My Superman rankings

1. Superman II
2. Superman The Movie
3. Man of Steel
4. Superman III (yeah I love this one too not a popular opinion)
5. Batman Vs Superman Director's cut
6. Justice League Snyders Cut
7. Superman Returns


I just make make believe Quest for Peace and this POS were never made.

 

[Todem]

neither was it about "kindness" like Gunn tried to market it. I didn't feel like it was about much at all.

I mean he literally saves a squirrel and then goes nuts saving a dog. Seems like that has a lot about kindness to living creatures.

I liked it a lot. Certainly not my favorite movie ever but I was way into it and am going to take my son to see it this weekend as well.

I saw it with my son and wife.....20 minutes in I begged them to walk out....I lost.

My son was meh after it was over (context he is 20 years old and grew up on Reeves and Man of Steel) and my wife after a night to sleep on it and then watch Man of Steel again thought it was crap.

But I literally wanted out of the theater 20 minutes in (paid $5 a ticket btw)

 

[Schmeabs]

As someone who loved the original movies I was disappointed in this movie. I just couldn't get in to it but it was OK. I didn't notice anything political at all.

 

[Joe Schmo]

I liked it and was thrilled it was lighter all around over that dark and brooding monstrosity Snyder foisted on the public. Those were slit your wrist movies, this one was a good time family movie with enough meat on the bones to open up a new world for the DCU. Loved Krypto, thought it was a nice touch making him out to be a regular dog with super powers but not some talking, thinking intelligence. This movie definitely harkened back to the Reeve's originals in a good way and portends a good future for Superman. Looking forward to more of this.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Changing the cannon about Jorel and Lara was downright dirty and awful. And Ma and PA Kent? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!!!! Portrayed them as idiots.

This really was an odd choice.

 

[Todem]

Changing the cannon about Jorel and Lara was downright dirty and awful. And Ma and PA Kent? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!!!! Portrayed them as idiots.

This really was an odd choice.

It really rubbed me the wrong way. And completely discredited the entire movie for me. The relationship he had with Ma and Pa Kent was reduced to comic relief and making them out to be total country bumpkins who shop exclusively at a Super Walmart.

And then the whole Jorel and Lara thing was a mockery of the sacrifice they made for Kalel.....outrageous and a farce.

If you enjoyed the movie....no worries. But being a lifelong Superman fan this was an utter disaster of a movie. Oh well. I can simply enjoy what we have....we have tons of far better Superman content to enjoy over this reboot of the DCU.

And Rotten Tomatoes is a joke. I never have used any critics or general public reviews to sway me with movies or music......I simply judge for myself. And in this case I am highly contrarian in comparison with the general public on this craptastic superhero movie.

 

[Joe Schmo]

Changing the cannon about Jorel and Lara was downright dirty and awful. And Ma and PA Kent? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!!!! Portrayed them as idiots.

This really was an odd choice.

It really rubbed me the wrong way. And completely discredited the entire movie for me. The relationship he had with Ma and Pa Kent was reduced to comic relief and making them out to be total country bumpkins who shop exclusively at a Super Walmart.

And then the whole Jorel and Lara thing was a mockery of the sacrifice they made for Kalel.....outrageous and a farce.

If you enjoyed the movie....no worries. But being a lifelong Superman fan this was an utter disaster of a movie. Oh well. I can simply enjoy what we have....we have tons of far better Superman content to enjoy over this reboot of the DCU.

And Rotten Tomatoes is a joke. I never have used any critics or general public reviews to sway me with movies or music......I simply judge for myself. And in this case I am highly contrarian in comparison with the general public on this craptastic superhero movie.

As a Superman super fan, do you give this opinion piece any sway? It was written in 2017 so isn't influenced by the current movie and with Supe's parents message I went to the google machine to research if it was valid. Turns out it may be.

 

[Todem]

Changing the cannon about Jorel and Lara was downright dirty and awful. And Ma and PA Kent? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!!!! Portrayed them as idiots.

This really was an odd choice.

It really rubbed me the wrong way. And completely discredited the entire movie for me. The relationship he had with Ma and Pa Kent was reduced to comic relief and making them out to be total country bumpkins who shop exclusively at a Super Walmart.

And then the whole Jorel and Lara thing was a mockery of the sacrifice they made for Kalel.....outrageous and a farce.

If you enjoyed the movie....no worries. But being a lifelong Superman fan this was an utter disaster of a movie. Oh well. I can simply enjoy what we have....we have tons of far better Superman content to enjoy over this reboot of the DCU.

And Rotten Tomatoes is a joke. I never have used any critics or general public reviews to sway me with movies or music......I simply judge for myself. And in this case I am highly contrarian in comparison with the general public on this craptastic superhero movie.

As a Superman super fan, do you give this opinion piece any sway? It was written in 2017 so isn't influenced by the current movie and with Supe's parents message I went to the google machine to research if it was valid. Turns out it may be.

Not a word about Jorel as he and his wife Lara had a natural birth in defiance of Kryptonian ways. My point is strictly about them and their sacrifice to save Kalel and send him to earth where he would thrive and be a hero to the people of Earth. Jorel warned the powers that be about Krypton's imminent doom. He was against the military coup of General Zod and his treason. Jorel stood for the good of Krypton....not this total anti Kryton article.

They flipped the script badly on that. It was a mockery of the "source material" of the original comic which it was supposed to be and have the spirit of.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Changing the mythology of his parents is almost as bad as Luke disdainfully tossing the lightsaber over his shoulder.

 

[Psychopav]

Changing the mythology of his parents is almost as bad as Luke disdainfully tossing the lightsaber over his shoulder.

At least they had the wherewithal to keep (or at least pay homage to) the John Williams theme for this movie.