Bloom's idea: Banking on 2nd String RBs UPDATED (1 Viewer)

[kimbosliced]

In light of Bloom's comments on the podcast this week, I'd like to start a thread devoted to the back up RBs that may "bloom" in the second half of the year. I'm ranking these guys according to the likelihood that the starter is: 1) Injury Prone, 2) Has a good Running Offense 3) The runner has flashed success in the past 4) There will more than likely NOT be a RBBC

1) K. Hunter

2) M. Bush

3) B. Tate

4) J. Rodgers

6) DJ Karim

7)The LOSER of the Torrain/Helu lottery

8) I. Redman

9) D. Lewis

10) T. Gerhardt

11) CJ Spiller

12) K. Williams

13). R. Williams

14) J. Ringer

Sound about right to everyone? K. Hunter seems like a good person to target w/ Gore's injury history as well as M. Bush w/ the Raiders bringing in some RBs to workout during the bye.

Please add/change the rankings as you see them.

The guys after 10 are kind of a crap shoot for several reasons--starter is unlikely to go down, the running offense sucks, the player isn't THAT talented.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

wouldnt that be "loser of Helu/Torain" lottery? The winner is the starter

with faulk activated, not sure about Ridley.

LOVE Houston's playoff schedule vs. the run so agree with high Tate ranking

MB3 and Ricky Williams are good additions even though likelihood of starter injury is low

I would also add: Spiller, Karim, Ringer, Scott (altho likely rostered this week)

Maybe even Tanner, Taiwan Jones if you want to get into 3rd string talents to watch

 

[kimbosliced]

wouldnt that be "loser of Helu/Torain" lottery? The winner is the starterwith faulk activated, not sure about Ridley.LOVE Houston's playoff schedule vs. the run so agree with high Tate rankingMB3 and Ricky Williams are good additions even though likelihood of starter injury is lowI would also add: Spiller, Karim, Ringer, Scott (altho likely rostered this week)Maybe even Tanner, Taiwan Jones if you want to get into 3rd string talents to watch

Ringer would be an interesting one too. I can't really tell if the O-line is entirely at fault for CJ2K's lack of production, has a little to do with it, or nothing at all. Perhaps the Coach should try and play Ringer for a half if CJ2k can't get it going this weekend. It would be telling if Ringer has any success.I forgot to add Karim and Spiller.

 

[PhantomJB]

Somewhat tongue-in-cheek but you could also add Deangelo Williams to this list. At this point, you may be able to obtain him at a deep discount since his performance/usage has been barely better than a backup. If Stewart ever goes down he would meet all the other criteria in spades.

 

[firstseason1988]

Somewhat tongue-in-cheek but you could also add Deangelo Williams to this list. At this point, you may be able to obtain him at a deep discount since his performance/usage has been barely better than a backup. If Stewart ever goes down he would meet all the other criteria in spades.

Problem with him, for this year and looking forward, is that Cam steals the short yardage TDs.

 

[Clifford]

In light of Bloom's comments on the podcast this week, I'd like to start a thread devoted to the back up RBs that may "bloom" in the second half of the year. I'm ranking these guys according to the likelihood that the starter is 1) Injury Prone, 2) Has a good Running Offense 3) The runner has flashed success in the past 4) There will more than likely NOT be a RBBC1) K. Hunter2) M. Bush3) B. Tate4) J. Rodgers6)I. Redman 7)The winner of the Torrain/Helu lottery8)S. Ridley 9) D. Lewis10) T. Gerhardt. Sound about right to everyone? K. Hunter seems like a good person to target w/ Gore's injury history as well as M. Bush w/ the Raiders bringing in some RBs to workout during the bye. Please add/change the rankings as you see them.

Not a single one of these guys will help you win this year and all of them should be owned in dynasty leagues. What is the point of this thread?

 

[Kenny Powers]

In light of Bloom's comments on the podcast this week, I'd like to start a thread devoted to the back up RBs that may "bloom" in the second half of the year. I'm ranking these guys according to the likelihood that the starter is 1) Injury Prone, 2) Has a good Running Offense 3) The runner has flashed success in the past 4) There will more than likely NOT be a RBBC

1) K. Hunter

2) M. Bush

3) B. Tate

4) J. Rodgers

6)I. Redman

7)The winner of the Torrain/Helu lottery

8)S. Ridley

9) D. Lewis

10) T. Gerhardt.

Sound about right to everyone? K. Hunter seems like a good person to target w/ Gore's injury history as well as M. Bush w/ the Raiders bringing in some RBs to workout during the bye.

Please add/change the rankings as you see them.

Not a single one of these guys will help you win this year and all of them should be owned in dynasty leagues. What is the point of this thread?

Not true at all if the starter goes down

 

[acal21]

Gotta remember teams often sit players the last weeks if they are out of contention and their rb is banged up and has nothing to play for or simply in the case of the 49ers if they already have the division locked which they should they will probably rest Gore considering his history and how important having him fresh for the actual playoffs will be. Kendall Hunter definitely tops this list as records stand now unless they continue to play for seeding or home field. I also think if the Jets make it to the thick of the playoff race and have a spot secure then Bilal Powell or Joe McKnight fit this bill but this is far from a certainty that they will have anything locked up. But everyone still has a few weeks to see how standings start to shape out before any of this comes in to play.

 

[kinghill]

In light of Bloom's comments on the podcast this week, I'd like to start a thread devoted to the back up RBs that may "bloom" in the second half of the year. I'm ranking these guys according to the likelihood that the starter is 1) Injury Prone, 2) Has a good Running Offense 3) The runner has flashed success in the past 4) There will more than likely NOT be a RBBC1) K. Hunter2) M. Bush3) B. Tate4) J. Rodgers6)I. Redman 7)The winner of the Torrain/Helu lottery8)S. Ridley 9) D. Lewis10) T. Gerhardt. Sound about right to everyone? K. Hunter seems like a good person to target w/ Gore's injury history as well as M. Bush w/ the Raiders bringing in some RBs to workout during the bye. Please add/change the rankings as you see them.

Not a single one of these guys will help you win this year and all of them should be owned in dynasty leagues. What is the point of this thread?

(not commenting on dynasty) I disagree with the notion that none of them will help get wins. They will help teams who are playoff bound but experience some late season injuries, leaving them stumbling into the playoffs or just on the outside. There is a lot of luck in nailing one of these guys, but those who act earlier in the season and can free up a roster spot or two, "just in case" will sometimes reap the benefits. Better doing that imo than keeping a 5th WR who you know will just continue to get you 5 ppg every week, aka useless.Just a quick snippet I grabbed from last year... I bet these guys helped some teams:2010 wk12-1657pts, 11.4 ppg - Goodson, Mike CAR RB54pts, 10.8 ppg - Morris, Maurice DET RB52pts, 10.4 ppg - Westbrook, Brian SFO RB51pts, 10.2 ppg - Jennings, Rashad JAC RB46pts, 15.3 ppg - Torain, Ryan WAS RB42pts, 14.0 ppg - Ivory, Christopher NOS RB ®

 

[doeseatplace]

In light of Bloom's comments on the podcast this week, I'd like to start a thread devoted to the back up RBs that may "bloom" in the second half of the year. I'm ranking these guys according to the likelihood that the starter is 1) Injury Prone, 2) Has a good Running Offense 3) The runner has flashed success in the past 4) There will more than likely NOT be a RBBC1) K. Hunter2) M. Bush3) B. Tate4) J. Rodgers6)I. Redman 7)The winner of the Torrain/Helu lottery8)S. Ridley 9) D. Lewis10) T. Gerhardt. Sound about right to everyone? K. Hunter seems like a good person to target w/ Gore's injury history as well as M. Bush w/ the Raiders bringing in some RBs to workout during the bye. Please add/change the rankings as you see them.

Not a single one of these guys will help you win this year and all of them should be owned in dynasty leagues. What is the point of this thread?

Frankly, I'm glad Kimbo started this thread. I'm in a 16 team league, through the bye weeks, and have some roster space. I could pick up a 2nd Def or K, but reading SP thoughts on who might be a good 16th man roster stash with some potential late season sizzle is pretty helpful

 

[cvnpoka]

wont jacquizz split with snelling? seems he is poor long shot in standard.

 

[Sweet Love]

Tate's good week last week killed me...was ready to make an offer in a league where I own Foster, and I think I have to wait for a game where he gets few oppy's or the bye.

 

[kimbosliced]

Basic premise was for redrafts as most of these guys are probably owned in dynasty. I started the thread because this kind of thing happens each year. If you have room on your bench, it's definitely worth a shot. No one can predict injuries BUT you do find some patterns--guys who don't finish the year typically (Frank Gore, J. Best, Run DMC, etc.)--their back ups become extremely valuable guys down the stretch.

Would you drop a productive member of your bench for one these, no...but instead of picking up that extra WR2 from Pitt or trying to find the Bears number 1 or getting N. Roosevelt from Buffalo, it might be worth a gamble to get one these guys BEFORE the aforementioned injury or loss in playing time.

I'd like to make an addition to the list. K. Williams DET. I added him simply b/c J. Best may be done for the year and M. Morris is 31 and has not completed a full season in three years. It may continue to be a timeshare, but that's another YOUNG back that showed some promise w/ the Skins last year.

 

[kimbosliced]

wont jacquizz split with snelling? seems he is poor long shot in standard.

Here's the thing with Atlanta. J. Snelling has recently been promoted to FB so if they don't bring someone in from the practice squad (and they didn't last year when their FB went down), Snelling is the guy. He's a bruiser too. So, Michael IF Turner falls, look for J. Rodgers to take over. It might happen..two years ago Turner missed a few games. I believe he had surgery recently AND he is the type of runner that so often gets hurt in the NFL now that he is more of a bruiser and less of burner.

 

[macknova]

In light of Bloom's comments on the podcast this week, I'd like to start a thread devoted to the back up RBs that may "bloom" in the second half of the year. I'm ranking these guys according to the likelihood that the starter is 1) Injury Prone, 2) Has a good Running Offense 3) The runner has flashed success in the past 4) There will more than likely NOT be a RBBC1) K. Hunter2) M. Bush3) B. Tate4) J. Rodgers6)I. Redman 7)The winner of the Torrain/Helu lottery8)S. Ridley 9) D. Lewis10) T. Gerhardt. Sound about right to everyone? K. Hunter seems like a good person to target w/ Gore's injury history as well as M. Bush w/ the Raiders bringing in some RBs to workout during the bye. Please add/change the rankings as you see them.

Not a single one of these guys will help you win this year and all of them should be owned in dynasty leagues. What is the point of this thread?

Dumb comment, this is the type of thing I've been looking at for weeks trying to hit.Every year, guys come out of nowhere late in the season and have big roles. It's hard to predict injuries, but I'd rather have a Kendall Hunter on my team than Thomas Jones any day of the week. If Gore goes down, Hunter immediately becomes an RB2. I have one transaction left this week in my league, and I'm looking to grab a wildcard RB like this. To me, Tate is #1 on the list. If Arian goes down, Tate becomes a stud. Bush is up there as well because of McFadden's injuries. If Fred Jackson goes down, Spiller becomes PPR gold. Hunter, Redman, and Ridley also have mostly clear paths for big roles on potentially good run offenses. Same with Dion Lewis, whom you would think is ahead of Ronnie Brown.I still feel if Turner were to get hurt, Snelling would be the guy over Rodgers. But that picture is muddled, too.

 

[glumpy]

Somewhat tongue-in-cheek but you could also add Deangelo Williams to this list. At this point, you may be able to obtain him at a deep discount since his performance/usage has been barely better than a backup. If Stewart ever goes down he would meet all the other criteria in spades.

Problem with him, for this year and looking forward, is that Cam steals the short yardage TDs.

No kidding. Carolina fan in a Carolina league, I drafted him and finally dropped. Yes it's short rosters but he's still on the wire--that pretty well tells it.

 

[fCheeze]

I've been chasing this list now for weeks trying to replace Blount, so like this OP. The top 2 choices for me are MBUsh and Tate, however neither are available

I think Ringer has a chance to become relevant this week. Munchak has previously stated he want Ringer to get more touches. public opinion is not good for CJ, and you have to believe that Munchak has SOME doubt on whether Ringer can get it done better. Titans are still in the playoff hunt. If CJ struggles early this week against horrible STL DEF, I am wondering if they feedRinger and see what he can do. Maybe 20% shot, however better % than predicting an injury to guys like Gore or Turner

I also agree with DET Williams or possibly MOMo to emerge in DET. I thought Williams looks much better than MoMo last week, and I'm not sure we know what his true potential is. DET has a huge need to find a ground,pound option if they hope to make it to the playoffs and have a prayer of winning In Lambeua, Chicago, PHL in Januray. I think Schwartz may turns to Williams as his best option for this type of attack?? Perhaps Williams gets hot (ala Blount last year) and just takes the job over. MoMo looked unimpressive last Week, and was saved by a single run... I am holding both with the hope that 1 emerges

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Taiwan Jones belongs on any top 10 sleeper dynasty RB list.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

While you're at it add De'Rel Scott.

 

[cvnpoka]

gd no one cares about dynasty itt

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

gd no one cares about dynasty itt

Do people still play in redraft leagues?

 

[doeseatplace]

wont jacquizz split with snelling? seems he is poor long shot in standard.

Here's the thing with Atlanta. J. Snelling has recently been promoted to FB so if they don't bring someone in from the practice squad (and they didn't last year when their FB went down), Snelling is the guy. He's a bruiser too. So, Michael IF Turner falls, look for J. Rodgers to take over. It might happen..two years ago Turner missed a few games. I believe he had surgery recently AND he is the type of runner that so often gets hurt in the NFL now that he is more of a bruiser and less of burner.

Falcons ended up signing FA FB Mike Cox, formerly of the Chiefs

 

[buck naked]

In light of Bloom's comments on the podcast this week, I'd like to start a thread devoted to the back up RBs that may "bloom" in the second half of the year. I'm ranking these guys according to the likelihood that the starter is 1) Injury Prone, 2) Has a good Running Offense 3) The runner has flashed success in the past 4) There will more than likely NOT be a RBBC1) K. Hunter2) M. Bush3) B. Tate4) J. Rodgers6)I. Redman 7)The winner of the Torrain/Helu lottery8)S. Ridley 9) D. Lewis10) T. Gerhardt. Sound about right to everyone? K. Hunter seems like a good person to target w/ Gore's injury history as well as M. Bush w/ the Raiders bringing in some RBs to workout during the bye. Please add/change the rankings as you see them.

Not a single one of these guys will help you win this year and all of them should be owned in dynasty leagues. What is the point of this thread?

If you don't know, then God help you and your fantasy teams.

 

[FavreCo]

gd no one cares about dynasty itt

Do people still play in redraft leagues?

I play in both. Dynasty separates the men from the boys. A screw up in redraft is repaired in 1 year. A bad pick in dynasty can set a team back years. We'll fix this rivers mistake next year.

 

[spodog]

Taiwan Jones belongs on any top 10 sleeper dynasty RB list.

Ka-ching. Agree with this. I also like Anthony Allen late in the season. Go check some of his tape from preseason games.

 

[kinghill]

gd no one cares about dynasty itt

Do people still play in redraft leagues?

 

[NajehHejan]

Love this thread. This type of discussion is money for redraft leagues. Of course most of these guys are rostered in dynasty.

Here's what I'm struggling with - in shallow leagues where you only play 2 WR and usually flex an RB, once the bye weeks are done and your depth is mostly just insurance against injury, do you cut an underpeforming WR3/4 type like Mike Williams TB or Sidney Rice for a lotto play on a Hunter or Carter type? You would never play those WR barring injury, but they're very risky to drop as another owner could snag them and the guys could eventually get rolling and perhaps contribute to beating your team. Thoughts?

 

[Birdie048]

Great idea.... some players have started to be revealed to us.... Dallas RB DeMarco Murray could be the top of this list while Carolina RB J Stewart started the season behind DeA Williams. J Stew has clearly been the better RB especially in PPR leagues with his 21 Rec on 22 targerts (compared to DeA Will 8 on 13)

They and the likes of Hunter & Tate are already on rosters in most leagues. They might be trade targets, but not WW pickups for their potential late season contributions....

Currently List UNLikely to be on Rosters:

1) Det Keiland Williams - Best's status is unclear; Maurice Morris is a reliable filler, but does not have the ceiling of Keiland in this offense; improve his pass catching skills and he could be a solid value

2) Minn Toby Gerhardt - lost season at 1-6; ADP has over 1400 touches in his 5.5 yrs (wear and tear should be considered soon)... time for them to lighten his load on a lost season

3) Atl Jacquizz Rodgers - Snelling moving to FB role, Rodgers has shown some burst; might ease in as 3rd down COP RB; Turner has missed time before and at 30 yo, injuries are more common....

4) Tenn Javon Ringer - soft schedule and CJ's lack of performance could be a sign of more Ringer; loss of Britt might slowly change OC plan to Ball control offense with 30+ run plays shared

5) Phil Ronnie Brown - experienced & talented backup; McCoy is versitle but Ronnie is more up the gut RB; could add new dimension to offense

6) Pitt Jonathan Dwyer - Mendy has underwhelmed; soft schedule (ext Balt); talented RB who needs a chance to shine; injury caused his draft status to fall; almost 1st round talent

7) Jax DJ Karim - MJD is not the same.... knee issue might be clear but rookie QB and so-so offense might shift to more Karim

8) Balt R Williams - Ray Rice is a workhorse, but they will lighted his load to ensure he has fresh legs for playoffs

 

[ThePittbully]

7) Jax DJ Karim - MJD is not the same.... knee issue might be clear but rookie QB and so-so offense might shift to more Karim

Really? He's averaging 97 yards a game against some pretty good defenses and almost no threat of a passing game.

 

[macknova]

With the release of Choice, Philip Tanner now becomes an intriguing option. Felix is already hurt, and Murray has an injury history. He could be a factor down the stretch.

 

[kimbosliced]

The main problem with Tanner is he is still third on the depth chart when all three guys are healthy. However, Jones is constantly hurt and Murray is a big injury risk ( why I thought it was a risky draft pick for my cowboys). This is all a gamble anyway. I actually may drop K. Williams this week for him b/c there will be constant speculation next week when DET is on the bye week.

 

[menobrown]

Don't see how Hardesty was left out of this discussion.

 

[kimbosliced]

Don't see how Hardesty was left out of this discussion.

I left Hardesty out b/c he is currently a starting RB and figured most leagues would've owned him. That said, he hasn't shown much and I'd almost rather have a one of these top 5 guys that we know can produce than Hardesty

 

[gethugefast1]

Cowboys waived RB Tashard Choice.

BUMP Phillip Tanner

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

gd no one cares about dynasty itt

Do people still play in redraft leagues?

It was

 

[menobrown]

The main problem with Tanner is he is still third on the depth chart when all three guys are healthy. However, Jones is constantly hurt and Murray is a big injury risk ( why I thought it was a risky draft pick for my cowboys). This is all a gamble anyway. I actually may drop K. Williams this week for him b/c there will be constant speculation next week when DET is on the bye week.

Not singling you out because I hear this "fragile Felix" stuff from just about every source imaginable but until last week Felix had played 34 straight games. That's 2.5 seasons worth of football without missing a game. Notice how many RB's are going down lately and I say give me a roster full of RB's with Felix's injury history.

Now I will add I think it's fair for people to speculate that Felix can't handle an increased workload and remain healthy or effective. I could argue he's never had the chance for an extended period but the bottom line is he's not done it so it's fair to speculate if he could.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Not singling you out because I hear this "fragile Felix" stuff from just about every source imaginable but until last week Felix had played 34 straight games. That's 2.5 seasons worth of football without missing a game. Notice how many RB's are going down lately and I say give me a roster full of RB's with Felix's injury history.

Now I will add I think it's fair for people to speculate that Felix can't handle an increased workload and remain healthy or effective. I could argue he's never had the chance for an extended period but the bottom line is he's not done it so it's fair to speculate if he could.

Jim Brown never missed a game and he delivered just as much, if not more, punishment than he took. I had to throw this in. I guess he played in an era when men were men that didn't wear dresses, didn't feel the need to share their feelings with everyone, didn't expect their participation trophy when they were kids, or expect to play in little league even if they sucked.

 

[menobrown]

Don't see how Hardesty was left out of this discussion.

I left Hardesty out b/c he is currently a starting RB and figured most leagues would've owned him. That said, he hasn't shown much and I'd almost rather have a one of these top 5 guys that we know can produce than Hardesty

OK, makes sense but I view Hardesty as this weeks fill in, not the starter. In most leagues I'm in every player you mentioned is on a roster. Ronnie Brown, Rodgers, Ricky and Gerhart are the only ones I'll see on the waiver wire and that's still the exception more than the norm. I know in my biggest money league, 12 teams/20 rosters, the only one of those RB's who is not on a roster is Rodgers and that's because I cut him yesterday and no one can pick him up until Friday.

 

[kimbosliced]

Don't see how Hardesty was left out of this discussion.

That is a larger league with many roster spots. In 10 team redrafts and 12 team redrafts with 16 spots, most of these guys are available in well over 50% of leagues. I left Hardesty out b/c he is currently a starting RB and figured most leagues would've owned him. That said, he hasn't shown much and I'd almost rather have a one of these top 5 guys that we know can produce than Hardesty

OK, makes sense but I view Hardesty as this weeks fill in, not the starter. In most leagues I'm in every player you mentioned is on a roster. Ronnie Brown, Rodgers, Ricky and Gerhart are the only ones I'll see on the waiver wire and that's still the exception more than the norm. I know in my biggest money league, 12 teams/20 rosters, the only one of those RB's who is not on a roster is Rodgers and that's because I cut him yesterday and no one can pick him up until Friday.

 

[Instinctive]

Not singling you out because I hear this "fragile Felix" stuff from just about every source imaginable but until last week Felix had played 34 straight games. That's 2.5 seasons worth of football without missing a game. Notice how many RB's are going down lately and I say give me a roster full of RB's with Felix's injury history.

Now I will add I think it's fair for people to speculate that Felix can't handle an increased workload and remain healthy or effective. I could argue he's never had the chance for an extended period but the bottom line is he's not done it so it's fair to speculate if he could.

Jim Brown never missed a game and he delivered just as much, if not more, punishment than he took. I had to throw this in. I guess he played in an era when men were men that didn't wear dresses, didn't feel the need to share their feelings with everyone, didn't expect their participation trophy when they were kids, or expect to play in little league even if they sucked.

You've been a pretty good poster for a decent chunk of time, but the last two or three days...you gotta take a step back and re-evaluate what you type before you post. You're just making yourself look stupid.ON TOPIC:

The entire "injury prone" discussion is stupid, in my mind. Injury prone is not real. Injuries are all luck, you cannot predict them. Adrian Peterson was injury prone I thought? Schaub too, wasn't he? Fragile Fred Taylor missed games his first season or two and then he was like any other RB...but somehow he was still "injury prone."

I completely agree with the premise of grabbing guys who could/should produce big if their starter went down, but to say one is a better bet because the starter is "injury prone" is bogus. It's one of those common-wisdom things that really isn't true. e.g. 3rd year WR breakouts

That said - because of the 49er offense and Hunter's ability, he has to be in the top two or three on this list. I like Hunter, obviously Tate, and then I think Keiland Williams is definitely a guy to watch/grab.

I'm a fan of Helu as well - most of my leagues he was available this past week, so he may still be out there in a few. Torain was taken everywhere, so while the "loser" is the lotto ticket, only one guy is potentially available anyway.

 

[Jake22]

gd no one cares about dynasty itt

Do people still play in redraft leagues?

I play in both. Dynasty separates the men from the boys. A screw up in redraft is repaired in 1 year. A bad pick in dynasty can set a team back years. We'll fix this rivers mistake next year.

I play in both, dynasty is easier for me while redraft lets you really use your drafting skills every year, which is why I prefer redraft, to me dynasty is too easy since you can take fliers on players and just hold them to see what happens, which is what most dynasty leagues do anyway...If you really want to use your drafting skills go redraft, you will always be tested by drafting in a different spot each year and you start with a new roster instead of having 3 studs on your team already...

 

[Instinctive]

gd no one cares about dynasty itt

Do people still play in redraft leagues?

I play in both. Dynasty separates the men from the boys. A screw up in redraft is repaired in 1 year. A bad pick in dynasty can set a team back years. We'll fix this rivers mistake next year.

I play in both, dynasty is easier for me while redraft lets you really use your drafting skills every year, which is why I prefer redraft, to me dynasty is too easy since you can take fliers on players and just hold them to see what happens, which is what most dynasty leagues do anyway...If you really want to use your drafting skills go redraft, you will always be tested by drafting in a different spot each year and you start with a new roster instead of having 3 studs on your team already...

Best part of redraft is definitely getting to draft every year (for real, not just 6 rounds of rookies) - the draft is the most fun part of FF for many (2nd for me, after winning)

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

You've been a pretty good poster for a decent chunk of time, but the last two or three days...you gotta take a step back and re-evaluate what you type before you post. You're just making yourself look stupid.

Obviously it was an attempt at light humor.

 

[Gatorman]

NO talk of Dion in Philly? Ronnie brown has been a big disappointment.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

NO talk of Dion in Philly? Ronnie brown has been a big disappointment.

If McCoy were to go down Lewis would be the back to own for sure. I guess that's a given.

 

[Birdie048]

7) Jax DJ Karim - MJD is not the same.... knee issue might be clear but rookie QB and so-so offense might shift to more Karim

Really? He's averaging 97 yards a game against some pretty good defenses and almost no threat of a passing game.

Fair enuf.. I was more making a statement for the Jax offense. Lack of any passing threat means 9 in a box for MJD and more punishment. Rookie QB appears to be a "learning & growing" year, but currently sitting at 2-5 with a loss to Carolina and a win over Balt makes me question this team - Unsure of their direction or committment.

MJD has a nice 4.6 ypc after 100+ vs Balt. Impressive but only 2 TD's? Hard to predict TD's

After researching more, Karim has a paltry 2.6 ypc unimpressive, but on 43 carries in 7 games.

Maybe he should be lowered on this list.....

 

[Birdie048]

NO talk of Dion in Philly? Ronnie brown has been a big disappointment.

If McCoy were to go down Lewis would be the back to own for sure. I guess that's a given.

Is he? I don't know.... 7 Carries for Lewis & 13 for Ronnie tell me neither is really any threat.Ronnie has not touched the ball their last 2 games before Bye.... I see that D Lewis has passed Ronnie on the Depth chart..... but would either of them be involved like LeSean McCoy?

 

[loose circuits]

NO talk of Dion in Philly? Ronnie brown has been a big disappointment.

If McCoy were to go down Lewis would be the back to own for sure. I guess that's a given.

Is he? I don't know.... 7 Carries for Lewis & 13 for Ronnie tell me neither is really any threat.Ronnie has not touched the ball their last 2 games before Bye.... I see that D Lewis has passed Ronnie on the Depth chart..... but would either of them be involved like LeSean McCoy?

I don't think Dion would duplicate his production, but he would more than likely be a RB2 in PPR leagues and do a lot of the same things

 

[menobrown]

NO talk of Dion in Philly? Ronnie brown has been a big disappointment.

If McCoy were to go down Lewis would be the back to own for sure. I guess that's a given.

I'd rather have Lewis but I suspect it would be a RBBC if McCoy went down. Browns been a disappointment and of course they tried to trade him but if they were that sour on him they would have cut him instead of bringing him back when the trade was negated. Biggest thing I'd add to the subject of banking on 2nd stringers is that any RB in the NFL who gets enough touches is a viable fantasy option. Seeing tons of fantasy teams, many of which are my own, unable to come up with 2 RB's every week so anyone getting touches is value. I'd spend less time worrying about who is the most talented backup RB and instead try to focus on which backup RB would get the most touches if the starter went down. This is why I'm not as high on a guy like Jaquizz Rodgers who if Turner went down would likely be fortunate to get a piece of the timeshare with Snelling. Contrast that to a guy like Deji Karim, who I view as an inferior talent than Rodgers and on a worse offense, but I'd much rather roster Deji because if MJD went down he'd likely be the guy.

 

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NO talk of Dion in Philly? Ronnie brown has been a big disappointment.

If McCoy were to go down Lewis would be the back to own for sure. I guess that's a given.

Is he? I don't know.... 7 Carries for Lewis & 13 for Ronnie tell me neither is really any threat.Ronnie has not touched the ball their last 2 games before Bye....

I see that D Lewis has passed Ronnie on the Depth chart..... but would either of them be involved like LeSean McCoy?

You're right, it isn't a given, but it should be.