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Boston Wants Pro Bowl Form Back (1 Viewer)

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After reading this article I thought, even he does 75% of what he did in 2001 he'll more than out perform his draft position. There are no guppies in my leagues anymore. No such thing as sleepers, it's just a matter of who jumps on who first... which leads to owner taking players earlier than they'd like to ensure they get them.

Boston Wants Pro Bowl Form Back

By IRA KAUFMAN The Tampa Tribune

TAMPA - Before David Boston races under any long passes launched by Chris Simms this fall, he'll have to outrun his past.

After leading the league in receiving yardage (1,598) and earning a Pro Bowl berth with the 2001 Arizona Cardinals, Boston has seen a blossoming pro career undermined by injuries and poor decisions.

Two months after signing with the Bucs for the $585,000 minimum, the former Ohio State standout heads to the NFL crossroads in Lake Buena Vista on Thursday as Tampa Bay players report to training camp.

"David played his butt off for me - in 2001, there was no better receiver in the NFL," said Tennessee linebackers coach Dave McGinnis, Boston's head coach in Arizona for three seasons. "Since I worked with David, he got married and now he has a child. We all grow up."

Boston, 27, is thankful for the opportunity to play for his fourth organization.

He has no assurances of making an NFL roster in 2006, a scenario which seemed preposterous when he was terrorizing defensive backs for McGinnis in the Arizona desert.

"My first few years I had a lot of success," said Boston, whose father, Byron, has been an NFL line judge for 11 years. "I was healthy and I was able to make a lot of plays. Right now I'm on my way back. I don't want a little bit back … I want it all back."

The eighth pick in the 1999 draft caught 71 passes for the Cardinals in 2000, setting the stage for his career year. Late in that memorable 2001 season, Boston sparked a 34-31 road upset of Jon Gruden's Raiders by catching six passes for 106 yards, including a 50-yard touchdown.

"He signed a contract here that was very much different than the ones he's signed in previous years," Gruden said. "He came out here and ran a 4.52 into a 15-mile an hour wind. He's made some mistakes and he's had some tough breaks, but he's a great kid.

"He got into some whatever you want to call it, bad situations, and he got hurt. He's going to get a shot and we're going to see what happens."

Boston's career began to turn in 2002, when a knee injury forced him to the injured reserve list for the final seven games.

The Cardinals declined to place a franchise tag on Boston the following spring, and he received a $4.5 million signing bonus in joining the Chargers as an unrestricted free agent.

Boston and old-school coach Marty Schottenheimer clashed to the point the Chargers suspended their high-profile receiver without pay in Week 4 for "unacceptable" conduct.

Boston responded with a career-high 14 receptions at Jacksonville the following week, but the workout freak couldn't hoist himself out of Schottenheimer's doghouse.

"All I know is David was a good teammate," said Bucs running back Michael Pittman, who spent three seasons with Boston in Arizona. "Before we signed him, Coach Gruden talked to me, and I gave him good insight. He'll come out here and compete and he'll work hard."

Traded to Miami in 2004, Boston sustained a season-ending knee injury in a training camp practice.

Less than three months later, Boston was charged with simple assault in an airport altercation, pleading innocent to striking a ticket agent who stopped him from boarding a flight.

The hits kept on coming. The NFL suspended Boston for four games in December for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

New Miami coach Nick Saban re-signed Boston in May 2005, 10 weeks after releasing the mercurial receiver. Another knee injury limited Boston to five games and four catches last year.

"I neglected to work out for teams until I came all the way back," he said. "I was on my way to Chicago after my Tampa trip, but I never got there. I'm excited to be here. I came in with open eyes and they welcomed me. I'm 27 now, with a family, so I'm a little bit different in that respect."

Boston's blend of size (6-2, 230) and speed proved too imposing for opposing defenders in 2001. Simms saw a glimpse of that package in May, when Boston auditioned at One Buc Place.

"He was a great player in this league and you can tell he will be again," Simms said. "He's impressive physically, but you could also see the work ethic. He really gets after it. David's very quiet, but he's also very driven."

Pittman is already envisioning Boston in pewter, another Buc bargain in the mold of defensive tackle Chris Hovan, reclaiming past glory while silencing skeptics.

"I remember the David Boston of 2001, when he believed he was unstoppable," Pittman said. "It seems like he has humbled himself and he's taking this opportunity very seriously. When he had his problems, I tried to get through to him. I don't know exactly what went on, but it seems to me David has mellowed out a little bit. He is so focused on making this team and I'm so glad he's here."

 
If Michael Pittman thinks he's good people, he's good people.
You better hope Pittman thinks he's good people...if not he'll ram his car into him.I don't know which fact I find more odd...the fact that it's been 5 years since Boston had his big year or the fact he's only 27. I didn't know steroids stopped aging.

 
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U.S. Attorney: You can avoid sentencing on these charges if you will testify that in fact, you were not the boss of North Jersey, that in fact, your nephew Anthony Soprano was and is. That he de facto controlled your capos with the backing of two of the New York families communicating through their emissary, John Sacrimoni. We want Johnny Sack. But more than him, we want Mangano and Teresi.

'Uncle Junior' Soprano: I want to #*#*# Angie Dickinson, let's see who gets lucky first.

I wonder if Boston plans to ask the DBs to go easy on him because his nipple ring is causing soreness. That one never gets old.

 
U.S. Attorney: You can avoid sentencing on these charges if you will testify that in fact, you were not the boss of North Jersey, that in fact, your nephew Anthony Soprano was and is. That he de facto controlled your capos with the backing of two of the New York families communicating through their emissary, John Sacrimoni. We want Johnny Sack. But more than him, we want Mangano and Teresi.

'Uncle Junior' Soprano: I want to #*#*# Angie Dickinson, let's see who gets lucky first.

I wonder if Boston plans to ask the DBs to go easy on him because his nipple ring is causing soreness. That one never gets old.
I always thought his ankle braclet was more feminine
 
has he calmed down on the balco smoothies yet?

i always wonder what would have been if he had just followed a normal training regimen.

 
If Michael Pittman thinks he's good people, he's good people.
Pittman is a leader in the locker room. He is an important person to have on your side. This team is full of players who experienced the locker room meltdown of 2004, and don't want it happening again.Boston has obviously cleared the hurdle of being accepted and respected.

 
If Galloway goes down (likely) then Boston gets the first shot at his position. Boston is really the only guy on the team with the speed to replace Galloway, and Simms likes to chuck it deep.

Not a bad stash in deep leagues.

 
If Michael Pittman thinks he's good people, he's good people.
Pittman is a leader in the locker room. He is an important person to have on your side. This team is full of players who experienced the locker room meltdown of 2004, and don't want it happening again.Boston has obviously cleared the hurdle of being accepted and respected.
Plus Pittman is a convicted wife beater. That helps too, gives him cred. :thumbup:
 
If Michael Pittman thinks he's good people, he's good people.
Pittman is a leader in the locker room. He is an important person to have on your side. This team is full of players who experienced the locker room meltdown of 2004, and don't want it happening again.Boston has obviously cleared the hurdle of being accepted and respected.
Plus Pittman is a convicted wife beater. That helps too, gives him cred. :thumbup:
Just some friendly advice from someone who lives in Tampa...Pittman is an important guy to have on your side. Ask Carnell Williams.Considering Boston's past, I think that blurb from Pittman is meaningful.

 
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If Michael Pittman thinks he's good people, he's good people.
Pittman is a leader in the locker room. He is an important person to have on your side. This team is full of players who experienced the locker room meltdown of 2004, and don't want it happening again.Boston has obviously cleared the hurdle of being accepted and respected.
Plus Pittman is a convicted wife beater. That helps too, gives him cred. :thumbup:
Just some friendly advice from someone who lives in Tampa...Pittman is an important guy to have on your side. Ask Carnell Williams.
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. On the one hand I understand that he's a leader and it's good that David Boston has gained acceptance. On the other hand, Pittman is a thug, and if he's leading the ballclub, what does that say about the character on the team?
 
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. On the one hand I understand that he's a leader and it's good that David Boston has gained acceptance. On the other hand, Pittman is a thug, and if he's leading the ballclub, what does that say about the character on the team?
Well, considering that Derrick Brooks, who is possibly the most respected player in the NFL today, also is a leader in the clubhouse....I think it says that players lead very different lives in and out of the locker room.
 
With David Boston, was steroids the main reason for his failures since his breakout season? Serious question and please don't say he didn't use steroids as nothing could be more obvious.

 
If Galloway goes down (likely) then Boston gets the first shot at his position. Boston is really the only guy on the team with the speed to replace Galloway, and Simms likes to chuck it deep.

Not a bad stash in deep leagues.
Waste of a roster spot even in deep leagues. While he was bulking up his upper body his knees and ankles were suffering. They can't handle the wear and tear of 16 games. It's possible he has a good game or two, but that's still a waste of a roster spot even in deep leagues....
 
If Galloway goes down (likely) then Boston gets the first shot at his position. Boston is really the only guy on the team with the speed to replace Galloway, and Simms likes to chuck it deep.

Not a bad stash in deep leagues.
Waste of a roster spot even in deep leagues. While he was bulking up his upper body his knees and ankles were suffering. They can't handle the wear and tear of 16 games. It's possible he has a good game or two, but that's still a waste of a roster spot even in deep leagues....
this might be true, but it's a guess and nothing more. i'd rather have DB stashed on my deep roster than many other deep sleepers. i know DB's done it before and i could see how he could be very motivated.-orphan

 
What is he currently listed at in terms of weight? If he's still big then he will get injured again. They could move him to TE if the weight is still high.

 
If Michael Pittman thinks he's good people, he's good people.
You better hope Pittman thinks he's good people...if not he'll ram his car into him.I don't know which fact I find more odd...the fact that it's been 5 years since Boston had his big year or the fact he's only 27. I didn't know steroids stopped aging.
Wow, it's only been 5 years?With Plummer in Denver for several years now, and Boston having numerous failed seasons with numerous teams it really seems like it's been more like 7-8 years. :mellow:

 
Well I'm not going to sit here and defend a wife-beater. Pittman did what he did and he'll always be labeled as such.

That said, he IS one of the locker-room leaders for the team. Stepping aside for a rookie last year (after a very productive 04 season) and become a third-down/blocking back/pseudo-WR without as much of a peep was an incredibly selfless thing to do which really bolstered him up with his teammates and Gruden. He could've made a huge mess of things, and instead embraced his role. Not too many professional athletes actually do that.

As for those saying that if Pitt is a locker-room leader, then it must be one hell of a bad LR -- I'll submit the names of Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, Shelton Quarles, Mike Alstott and Greg Spires -- all very well-respected players. The team has done a nice job of replacing blowhards like Sapp and Keyshawn with young leaders like Caddy and Clayton.

 
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He is going to split some time with Galloway as the WR2 (not 50%, but Gruden is starting to push to the double big he's wanted this year). Next year he will start at WR2.

I'd say he's definitely worth a trade'n'stash in dynasty leagues.

Value this year? Nah...

Well I'm not going to sit here and defend a wife-beater. Pittman did what he did and he'll always be labeled as such.

That said, he IS one of the locker-room leaders for the team. Stepping aside for a rookie last year (after a very productive 04 season) and become a third-down/blocking back/pseudo-WR without as much of a peep was an incredibly selfless thing to do which really bolstered him up with his teammates and Gruden. He could've made a huge mess of things, and instead embraced his role. Not too many professional athletes actually do that.
I'll say it again too. I thought incredibly lowly of Pittman, but as I began working with him on his radio show last fall, I developed a good amount of respect for him. He's really a great guy to be around, and completely different from what I envisioned him to be like.He also has back-to-the-future style doors on his Benz :thumbup: . No he wouldn't let me ride in it.

 
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They could move him to TE if the weight is still high.
Is he even a good blocker? Has the "move the slow WR to TE" suggestion ever even worked? It seems like every time a WR's speed or weight is called into question on this board, someone is there to sugguest a move to TE. It's like the TE position is a wasteland for failed WRs around here. Has any WR ever lost a step or put on too much weight and then successfully been converted to TE?
 
They could move him to TE if the weight is still high.
Is he even a good blocker? Has the "move the slow WR to TE" suggestion ever even worked?
No. He's not a good blocker, and he's not slow. He's not a tight end at all, even when he's 260.
 
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can someone link that pic of him from a few years ago where he is signing an autograph and his arm takes up like half the screen. I vaguely remember he was signing for some really big girl.

thanks

 
He is going to split some time with Galloway as the WR2 (not 50%, but Gruden is starting to push to the double big he's wanted this year). Next year he will start at WR2.

I'd say he's definitely worth a trade'n'stash in dynasty leagues.

Value this year? Nah...

Well I'm not going to sit here and defend a wife-beater. Pittman did what he did and he'll always be labeled as such.

That said, he IS one of the locker-room leaders for the team. Stepping aside for a rookie last year (after a very productive 04 season) and become a third-down/blocking back/pseudo-WR without as much of a peep was an incredibly selfless thing to do which really bolstered him up with his teammates and Gruden. He could've made a huge mess of things, and instead embraced his role. Not too many professional athletes actually do that.
I'll say it again too. I thought incredibly lowly of Pittman, but as I began working with him on his radio show last fall, I developed a good amount of respect for him. He's really a great guy to be around, and completely different from what I envisioned him to be like.He also has back-to-the-future style doors on his Benz :thumbup: . No he wouldn't let me ride in it.
Is that the Benz he crashed into his wifes car with his kid inside while chasing her?? :confused:
 
Is Boston a lock to even make the roster?
Yes.Clayton, Galloway, Hilliard, Boston, Stovall, Mark Jones, in that order.
Funny, I don't think he'll make it. Did Gruden tell you this?
Did Gruden tell you he wouldn't? Seriously this board is f'd up sometimes. You can believe the rants of those who have been burned by Boston or you can play it smart (especially those of us in Zealots) by stashing him on our 60 man rosters right now for nill. I'll take a 230 lb. WR who runs a 4.4 and has produce a top 3 season over quite a number of other crappy fliers out there... even if I do have to wait and see if he makes the roster or not.
 
After looking at their WRs, you have to think that Clayton, Galloway, and Stovall (by virtue of being a high draft pick) are locks to make the final roster.

Boston would have to beat out one, and possibly two, holdovers out of Ike Hilliard, Edell Shepherd, and Mark Jones (one if 6 WRs are kept, 2 if 5 are).

Since Mark Jones is their primary punt returner, he'd have to screw up in preseason. Edell Shepherd is young and, IMO, has shown promise, so I think he'll stay around. Shepherd is also their top kick returner.

Boston's best shot is probably to beat out Hilliard, which he certainly could do, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

 
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Shepherd is no longer their kick returner. Mike Pittman lobbied the special teams coach at the end of last year to get more involved and became the primary returner. He did so well that he's been pencilled in at the return guy this year.

Clayton, Galloway, Hilliard, Boston, (Shepherd or Jones)

 
Ah, yes. The annual David Boston hype.

Proof positive that we are running out of things to talk about in the offseason.

:thumbup:

 
After looking at their WRs, you have to think that Clayton, Galloway, and Stovall (by virtue of being a high draft pick) are locks to make the final roster.

Boston would have to beat out one, and possibly two, holdovers out of Ike Hilliard, Edell Shepherd, and Mark Jones (one if 6 WRs are kept, 2 if 5 are).

Since Mark Jones is their primary punt returner, he'd have to screw up in preseason. Edell Shepherd is young and, IMO, has shown promise, so I think he'll stay around. Shepherd is also their top kick returner.

Boston's best shot is probably to beat out Hilliard, which he certainly could do, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
At best you're getting the #3 WR, but with Stovall they will be developing a starter possibly next year so it's not very likely that DB will become a starter, let alone the #1.
 
:confused:

I'm not sure why anyone who would read that article would think Boston is worth drafting. How many red flags are needed to stay away from a guy?

 
If Michael Pittman thinks he's good people, he's good people.
Pittman is a leader in the locker room. He is an important person to have on your side. This team is full of players who experienced the locker room meltdown of 2004, and don't want it happening again.Boston has obviously cleared the hurdle of being accepted and respected.
Plus Pittman is a convicted wife beater. That helps too, gives him cred. :thumbup:
Just some friendly advice from someone who lives in Tampa...Pittman is an important guy to have on your side. Ask Carnell Williams.Considering Boston's past, I think that blurb from Pittman is meaningful.
All locker room support aside, do you think Boston could make the climb back to #1 status. It's not like he has a CJ, Moss or Owens to compete against. The Tampa WR core hinges on an aging vet and a 3rd year WR who regressed big time last season.
 
Has the "move the slow WR to TE" suggestion ever even worked?
Ask Ozzie Newsome.
We have to go back 30 years to find an example?
Only if we are interested in meeting your criteria. I agree though, it doesn't seem like it works very often, but then again, how often has it been legitimately attempted?Boston gets this comeback hype every year though. He's a terrific physical specimen that had a great start to a career. Something went off track though (bodybuilding shape vs. football shape, roids?). Every year since he got traded to San Diego he says he's in the best shape of his life, some naive reporter fails to do his homework, and some FFer thinks he has found a steal. It's getting as old as Brett Favre retirement talk.

 
I will watch his preseason with interest. His past breakdowns were due to his weight and the fact that with steroids he put it o so fast that he broke down and overwhelmed his ligiments. If he truely is 220 lbs he is back within the safety zone and will most closely resemble T.O. in size and strength. He may be worth a flyer, and his history may keep others away.

 
He should just want to make the team.

Buccaneers | Boston on the bubble to make the team

Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:20:05 -0700

Joanne Korth and Stephen F. Holder, of the St. Petersburg Times, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR David Boston is on the bubble to make the team's roster.

 
He should just want to make the team.Buccaneers | Boston on the bubble to make the teamTue, 29 Aug 2006 13:20:05 -0700Joanne Korth and Stephen F. Holder, of the St. Petersburg Times, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR David Boston is on the bubble to make the team's roster.
man.. Otis had some man-love for this guy
 
Is Boston a lock to even make the roster?
Yes.Clayton, Galloway, Hilliard, Boston, Stovall, Mark Jones, in that order.
Buccaneers | Stovall will make the team's final rosterTue, 29 Aug 2006 13:18:26 -0700

Joanne Korth and Stephen F. Holder, of the St. Petersburg Times, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden said WR Maurice Stovall will make the team's roster.

How many WRs does TB usually keep?

 
He should just want to make the team.Buccaneers | Boston on the bubble to make the teamTue, 29 Aug 2006 13:20:05 -0700Joanne Korth and Stephen F. Holder, of the St. Petersburg Times, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR David Boston is on the bubble to make the team's roster.
man.. Otis had some man-love for this guy
Doesn't Otis have it bad for Frank Gore as well...hey there's a guy in my league that has the same ....hmmm I wonder? Otis how do you feel about Favre and Eli Manning?
 
He won't regain his Pro Bowl form. He's a shell of the player he used to be IMO. Saw him against the Jags. Didn't even recognize him. Just not the same player I'm afraid. Wouldn't be surprised if he's looking for work in a week or so...

 

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