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Been a pretty good Christmas holiday so far. Landed an ORVW 10 just a few days before Christmas, then a couple days later I found an EHT Straight Rye. Wife got me a bottle of Rare Breed as a Christmas gift. Was gifted a bottle of Penelope Barrel Strength by a cousin in our Secret Santa. Store closest to me just dropped a delicious Russell's store pick a few days ago. And found someone willing to trade with me so I swapped a Maker's Mark Cellar Aged for a Russell's 13.

Would have been even sweeter though if I'd been in town the day after Christmas. Buddy of mine texted and said he was taking a ride ~45 min from my house to hit a couple stores in a small town where he'd had good luck in the past. This dude has a nose for finding allocated bourbon, and I would have jumped at the chance to tag-along and learn about a new honey hole, but I wasn't home. Later that night he texted me a photo of the Thomas Handy and George T Stagg bottles he landed for $199 each. I got back to town two days later and went by the store where he found them but they were long gone.
 
Tonight we visit with an old friend: Evan Williams 1783 Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey (90 proof, $20.99, Total Wine, Laurel, MD)

First thoughts: I first tried 1783 back in late 2022, which was still early in my bourbon experience. I came to try it at the recommendation of an employee at the honey hole I had discovered near my parents house, when I had asked him to direct me to something with caramel/butterscotch and vanilla notes. I had already tried the EW Bottled in Bond and got the appeal: it was a good bang for the buck. At the same time, it seemed a little off as a regular pour, and since I was still cruising the bargain basement, and had seen favorable reviews of it, I gave it a chance. I remember liking it more with a few drops of water and overall liking it better than the Bottled in Bond. I even toyed with the idea of keeping a handle on hand at all times, along with Wild Turkey 101. I haven't gotten back around to it until now, so I'm looking forward to seeing how my more experienced palate will like it.

First sniff: caramel and vanilla, albeit with the volume down low.

First taste (before adding water): The caramel and vanilla turn bitter, and I believe I'm also tasting the oak of the cask. There is no age statement, just "Extra Aged" on the label, and IIRC, it has to be in the barrel at least 3 years to be called bourbon, so extra aged probably means 3 years and a day...? Whatever, it's a more pleasant neat pour to me than the Bottled in Bond was.

Second sniff (after adding 3 drops of water): Still caramel and vanilla, and surprisingly, it's sweeter on the nose after adding water.

Second taste: The bitterness is all but gone, though there is now a little more burn, and the caramel and vanilla mostly stayed in place.

Knee-jerk reaction: In my notes, I specified that it's better with a few drops of water. Obviously I stand by this and while I've tasted a lot more (and more expensive and even better regarded) whiskies in just these 2+ years, my palate hasn't changed so much that I won't find a home for this if I need a cheap 'daily' sipper. I've been on such a rye tear this year that before I bought this bottle, I noticed I only have one bourbon left in my collection-the Wild Turkey Jimmy Russell 70th Anniversary, so I don't want to go through that too quickly. The 1783 will help and buy me some time before I get another handle of Wild Turkey 101 to do my 'heavy lifting'.
 
Just noticed this thread. I am not a big drinker and actually don't like the taste of beer. I have been trying some mixed drinks lately when out with friends. Seems like the ones with bourbon have been my favorite. Are you guys drinking straight bourbon or mixed drinks with bourbon in them? What are your favorite mixed drinks?
 
Just noticed this thread. I am not a big drinker and actually don't like the taste of beer. I have been trying some mixed drinks lately when out with friends. Seems like the ones with bourbon have been my favorite. Are you guys drinking straight bourbon or mixed drinks with bourbon in them? What are your favorite mixed drinks?
There's quite a few bourbon drinkers who enjoy Manhattans and Old Fashioneds. Most in here sip straight, on ice and/or with a little water. If I'm drinking bourbon it's generally straight or on ice. If I'm having a mixed drink with bourbon it's generally a bourbon and coke.

If you've never tried a little bourbon topping some vanilla ice cream you're missing out.
 
Just noticed this thread. I am not a big drinker and actually don't like the taste of beer. I have been trying some mixed drinks lately when out with friends. Seems like the ones with bourbon have been my favorite. Are you guys drinking straight bourbon or mixed drinks with bourbon in them? What are your favorite mixed drinks?
Generally sip “the good stuff” neat or with a big ice sphere. Enjoy the cheaper bourbons, especially on warm evenings, with coke, ginger ale, or 7-Up (the last one if I am thinking of my grandma, who had a single highball a night for most of her 97 years.)

Had a fantastic smoked Old Fashioned on NYE, but it was Sazerac rye and not bourbon.

Had a variation of a Moscow Mule with bourbon that was tasty too.
 
Just noticed this thread. I am not a big drinker and actually don't like the taste of beer. I have been trying some mixed drinks lately when out with friends. Seems like the ones with bourbon have been my favorite. Are you guys drinking straight bourbon or mixed drinks with bourbon in them? What are your favorite mixed drinks?
There's quite a few bourbon drinkers who enjoy Manhattans and Old Fashioneds. Most in here sip straight, on ice and/or with a little water. If I'm drinking bourbon it's generally straight or on ice. If I'm having a mixed drink with bourbon it's generally a bourbon and coke.

If you've never tried a little bourbon topping some vanilla ice cream you're missing out.
Similar…mixed with Makers or lesser if I mix…ginger ale, coke or 7up/sprite.
 
When someone says mixed drinks I think of highballs like rum and coke. Whiskey and ginger ale is always solid in that regard

I drink a lot of bourbon cocktails too, it’s a really solid base. Old fashioned and manhattans are probably the most well known, or a mint julep

Works good in a mule too

Pairs well with orange and cherry liquors too
 
Once I found out I don’t have to report to work tomorrow due to winter storm, I started texting weather forecasts to my area friends:

“Forecasts call for up 3” of bourbon.”

“Bourbon removal crews are working diligently, but warn that additional accumulation is likely”.

“Local authorities have declared a Level 2 bourbon emergency.”
 
When someone says mixed drinks I think of highballs like rum and coke. Whiskey and ginger ale is always solid in that regard

I drink a lot of bourbon cocktails too, it’s a really solid base. Old fashioned and manhattans are probably the most well known, or a mint julep

Works good in a mule too

Pairs well with orange and cherry liquors too

:hifive: I like making a Boulevardier (essentially a Negroni with bourbon)
 
Just noticed this thread. I am not a big drinker and actually don't like the taste of beer. I have been trying some mixed drinks lately when out with friends. Seems like the ones with bourbon have been my favorite. Are you guys drinking straight bourbon or mixed drinks with bourbon in them? What are your favorite mixed drinks?
Generally sip “the good stuff” neat or with a big ice sphere. Enjoy the cheaper bourbons, especially on warm evenings, with coke, ginger ale, or 7-Up (the last one if I am thinking of my grandma, who had a single highball a night for most of her 97 years.)

Had a fantastic smoked Old Fashioned on NYE, but it was Sazerac rye and not bourbon.

Had a variation of a Moscow Mule with bourbon that was tasty too.
i made these on NYE with Sazerac. they were a big hit.
 
Just noticed this thread. I am not a big drinker and actually don't like the taste of beer. I have been trying some mixed drinks lately when out with friends. Seems like the ones with bourbon have been my favorite. Are you guys drinking straight bourbon or mixed drinks with bourbon in them? What are your favorite mixed drinks?
Generally sip “the good stuff” neat or with a big ice sphere. Enjoy the cheaper bourbons, especially on warm evenings, with coke, ginger ale, or 7-Up (the last one if I am thinking of my grandma, who had a single highball a night for most of her 97 years.)

Had a fantastic smoked Old Fashioned on NYE, but it was Sazerac rye and not bourbon.

Had a variation of a Moscow Mule with bourbon that was tasty too.
i made these on NYE with Sazerac. they were a big hit.
Sazerac Rye is probably what I reach for most often when making old Fashioneds, especially for guests who may not be frequent drinkers. It makes a great drink. I enjoy it too, but typically if I am only mixing for myself I will grab something with a little more proof and punch to it. I do like to use ryes in an Old Fashioned as the spiciness is a nice contrast and balance to the sweet of the simple syrup. I made a couple yesterday with the cask strength Prideful Goat rye...excellent!
 
I got my neighbor a bottle of a Backbone Uncut Single Barrel for Christmas. I was looking for something else but they had a tasting going on for this stuff and I pivoted after trying some. 117.1 proof and aged 116 months - barrel pick by my local bottle shop. Its got a high rye content at 21%. I loved it and hope he does as well. He got me a 16 year old Lagavulin so I ended up a bit ahead this year.

 
I got my neighbor a bottle of a Backbone Uncut Single Barrel for Christmas. I was looking for something else but they had a tasting going on for this stuff and I pivoted after trying some. 117.1 proof and aged 116 months - barrel pick by my local bottle shop. Its got a high rye content at 21%. I loved it and hope he does as well. He got me a 16 year old Lagavulin so I ended up a bit ahead this year.

Just for edification...why would you age something 116 months? Is the flavor profile really super different than going to 120 months and calling it ten years?
 
When someone says mixed drinks I think of highballs like rum and coke. Whiskey and ginger ale is always solid in that regard

I drink a lot of bourbon cocktails too, it’s a really solid base. Old fashioned and manhattans are probably the most well known, or a mint julep

Works good in a mule too

Pairs well with orange and cherry liquors too

:hifive: I like making a Boulevardier (essentially a Negroni with bourbon)

I like making these or old fashioneds with different bitters like a mole.
 
I got my neighbor a bottle of a Backbone Uncut Single Barrel for Christmas. I was looking for something else but they had a tasting going on for this stuff and I pivoted after trying some. 117.1 proof and aged 116 months - barrel pick by my local bottle shop. Its got a high rye content at 21%. I loved it and hope he does as well. He got me a 16 year old Lagavulin so I ended up a bit ahead this year.

Just for edification...why would you age something 116 months? Is the flavor profile really super different than going to 120 months and calling it ten years?

It’s an oddly specific time period. It was a barrel pick for the store I go to so I assume Backbone bottled it when they made the order and however long it’s been in the barrel is what they put on the label.

 
I got my neighbor a bottle of a Backbone Uncut Single Barrel for Christmas. I was looking for something else but they had a tasting going on for this stuff and I pivoted after trying some. 117.1 proof and aged 116 months - barrel pick by my local bottle shop. Its got a high rye content at 21%. I loved it and hope he does as well. He got me a 16 year old Lagavulin so I ended up a bit ahead this year.

Just for edification...why would you age something 116 months? Is the flavor profile really super different than going to 120 months and calling it ten years?

It’s an oddly specific time period. It was a barrel pick for the store I go to so I assume Backbone bottled it when they made the order and however long it’s been in the barrel is what they put on the label.

I have an 99 month Backbone that is 126 proof...a pick by Mash and Journey. Very enjoyable pour. It is my first experience with Backbone. With the 99 month age, the bottle was labeled in honor of "The Great One", Wayne Gretzky.
 
Any 2025 bourbon related resolutions among the group?

My 2024 resolution was to primarily only buy store picks (not regular shelfers). I wanted to build some loyalty at a couple specific places, and get to try unique barrels. I'm not the bourbon drinker that has one reliable bottle that I go to frequently, and I rarely drink the same thing in back to back days/sessions. So I wanted to avoid spending my money on the "everyday bottles" and spend it instead on the "you'll only get this exact bottle/barrel once" type bottles. I concentrated my efforts at 5 different stores, and it ended up leading into some great finds, and some great allocated bottles thanks to building that loyalty.

In 2025, I'm going to try and continue this plan with a narrowed focus of just concentrating my spending from 5 to just 2 stores that do a lot of picks (that align with my palate), and where loyalty means the most in terms of leading to allocated bottles. I'm also planning to travel to other states more in 2025, so I want to save some budget to be able to find things that aren't distributed in my state.

Anybody else looking at a change in your bourbon hunting strategy for 2025?
 
Any 2025 bourbon related resolutions among the group?

My 2024 resolution was to primarily only buy store picks (not regular shelfers). I wanted to build some loyalty at a couple specific places, and get to try unique barrels. I'm not the bourbon drinker that has one reliable bottle that I go to frequently, and I rarely drink the same thing in back to back days/sessions. So I wanted to avoid spending my money on the "everyday bottles" and spend it instead on the "you'll only get this exact bottle/barrel once" type bottles. I concentrated my efforts at 5 different stores, and it ended up leading into some great finds, and some great allocated bottles thanks to building that loyalty.

In 2025, I'm going to try and continue this plan with a narrowed focus of just concentrating my spending from 5 to just 2 stores that do a lot of picks (that align with my palate), and where loyalty means the most in terms of leading to allocated bottles. I'm also planning to travel to other states more in 2025, so I want to save some budget to be able to find things that aren't distributed in my state.

Anybody else looking at a change in your bourbon hunting strategy for 2025?
No formal resolutions here but I am in a similar place in my journey. Unfortunately, there are no store picks in Ohio and everything is the same price in any store you visit, so there is not much that is unique through the stores. I do belong to a couple of local groups that do some barrel picks, and I pick up some things that trickle down to the free tiers of a few Whiskey tuber Patreon group picks. I'll occasionally grab something of interest from Seelbach's online. A friend has a membership where he does not have to pay shipping costs. So I order things through him when I do it. That pretty much sums up my strategy for picking up more unique offerings.
 
I'll be narrowing my purchasing to just the bottles I really like. Don't feel the need to chase down the latest hot item and end up with a duster on the shelf. Not buying anymore $100+ without getting a sample first. 🥃
 
Any 2025 bourbon related resolutions among the group?

My 2024 resolution was to primarily only buy store picks (not regular shelfers). I wanted to build some loyalty at a couple specific places, and get to try unique barrels. I'm not the bourbon drinker that has one reliable bottle that I go to frequently, and I rarely drink the same thing in back to back days/sessions. So I wanted to avoid spending my money on the "everyday bottles" and spend it instead on the "you'll only get this exact bottle/barrel once" type bottles. I concentrated my efforts at 5 different stores, and it ended up leading into some great finds, and some great allocated bottles thanks to building that loyalty.

In 2025, I'm going to try and continue this plan with a narrowed focus of just concentrating my spending from 5 to just 2 stores that do a lot of picks (that align with my palate), and where loyalty means the most in terms of leading to allocated bottles. I'm also planning to travel to other states more in 2025, so I want to save some budget to be able to find things that aren't distributed in my state.

Anybody else looking at a change in your bourbon hunting strategy for 2025?
No formal resolutions here but I am in a similar place in my journey. Unfortunately, there are no store picks in Ohio and everything is the same price in any store you visit, so there is not much that is unique through the stores. I do belong to a couple of local groups that do some barrel picks, and I pick up some things that trickle down to the free tiers of a few Whiskey tuber Patreon group picks. I'll occasionally grab something of interest from Seelbach's online. A friend has a membership where he does not have to pay shipping costs. So I order things through him when I do it. That pretty much sums up my strategy for picking up more unique offerings.
Really wish we could do online ordering/shipping to my state. I'd be able to finally get my hands on some stuff that isn't distributed here and wouldn't have to wait months at a time to make a road trip.

Does OHLQ do monthly/quarterly/annual allocated drops? What do those look like if so? Camp out at certain stores? Lottery system? Curious to learn how you get your hands on allocated stuff up there. I've heard Ohio is the Land of Weller. What's it take to get one?
 
Any 2025 bourbon related resolutions among the group?

My 2024 resolution was to primarily only buy store picks (not regular shelfers). I wanted to build some loyalty at a couple specific places, and get to try unique barrels. I'm not the bourbon drinker that has one reliable bottle that I go to frequently, and I rarely drink the same thing in back to back days/sessions. So I wanted to avoid spending my money on the "everyday bottles" and spend it instead on the "you'll only get this exact bottle/barrel once" type bottles. I concentrated my efforts at 5 different stores, and it ended up leading into some great finds, and some great allocated bottles thanks to building that loyalty.

In 2025, I'm going to try and continue this plan with a narrowed focus of just concentrating my spending from 5 to just 2 stores that do a lot of picks (that align with my palate), and where loyalty means the most in terms of leading to allocated bottles. I'm also planning to travel to other states more in 2025, so I want to save some budget to be able to find things that aren't distributed in my state.

Anybody else looking at a change in your bourbon hunting strategy for 2025?
No formal resolutions here but I am in a similar place in my journey. Unfortunately, there are no store picks in Ohio and everything is the same price in any store you visit, so there is not much that is unique through the stores. I do belong to a couple of local groups that do some barrel picks, and I pick up some things that trickle down to the free tiers of a few Whiskey tuber Patreon group picks. I'll occasionally grab something of interest from Seelbach's online. A friend has a membership where he does not have to pay shipping costs. So I order things through him when I do it. That pretty much sums up my strategy for picking up more unique offerings.
Really wish we could do online ordering/shipping to my state. I'd be able to finally get my hands on some stuff that isn't distributed here and wouldn't have to wait months at a time to make a road trip.

Does OHLQ do monthly/quarterly/annual allocated drops? What do those look like if so? Camp out at certain stores? Lottery system? Curious to learn how you get your hands on allocated stuff up there. I've heard Ohio is the Land of Weller. What's it take to get one?
Ohio does a combination of stuff. Each of the state stores has a designated day during the week for making allocated bottles available. Most of them are Saturday and very few on Sunday, but there are different stores that do their drops each day of the week. What each store will get may vary...some stores get more than others...some stores get very little or even nothing in a given week. It is a bit of a guessing game, but if you pay attention to what is dropping during the week at other places, you get a pretty good idea of what will be available at your local stores on their day. Some of the Buffalo Trace allocated products like Weller red, Weller green, Eagle Rare, Blanton, EH Taylor Small Batch, Buffalo Trace show up about fairly regularly every 4-6 weeks. This is why we are sometimes called the land of Weller. It is obtainable, but you typically need to go stand in a line before the store opens to get something like the red...the greens survive a lot longer and seem to be getting closer to shelfer status. Other weeks of the month will feature other distilleries' products that are allocated or limited releases. I am just using the Buffalo Trace stuff as a common example. These drops are also when the state makes available their "exclusives". These are Ohio's versions of store picks. The state "picks". Many people question how much is actually getting picked versus the state receiving whatever barrels they are given that will only be available in Ohio. Sometimes they are good, some time not so much. Roll the dice...

Aside from the weekly drops of "common" allocated stuff and state exclusive releases, the state will do occasional special, and sometimes surprise, drops that usually include the more rare stuff like Weller Fulll Proof, 12, CYPB, single barrel, Stagg, EH Barrel Proof, etc... You can literally get an email at 7 AM from OHLQ saying "at 9 am (fill in name here) will be available at the following locations..." Then there is a chaotic dash for people to go line up at those locations where people with inside information already beat you there.. OHLQ will also run lotteries...typically one each season with an online sign up or a pick up a ticket system...with the more premium allocated stuff, For example, you never see a BTAC bottle unless it is in a lottery. This past winter things like King of Kentucky, Parker's Heritage, Blanton Straight from the Barrel, Old Fitz 10, Old Forester Birthday Bourbon, to name a few, were part of the lottery. I never freakin' win...

The whole process is rather random and chaotic. We are at the mercy of what the state decides to make available to us. The good thing is that you will always pay the state price, no matter what store, no matter what bottle....William Larue Weller? $150. It is not sitting in a museum store with a $2000 sticker on it. But, you will never see it unless you win the right to buy it in the lottery. This is why the secondary market thrives in Ohio. Since people can get Weller Red and Green regularly, that has become the currency. People stockpile those to trade for the things they won't find in the stores or can't get lucky enough to win. Guys with out of state connections bring in the rare stuff, collect the Weller in trade, and send it out of Ohio for big profit. Those Weller Red which can be bought for $60 in Ohio then get sold for a couple hundred at a store in another state where it is hard to find.
 
I had big dreams of taking my $250 fantasy winnings and splurging on one really nice bottle (ideally a GTS, but depending what's out there). I have hunted high and low over the last couple weeks and have found empty shelves and full secondary prices. Finally decided that I'd give it a whirl in a few online bourbon raffles instead. Turned my $250 into three bottles: Michter's 10, Wild Turkey 12 yr, and Russell's Single Rickhouse CN-B.
 
I had big dreams of taking my $250 fantasy winnings and splurging on one really nice bottle (ideally a GTS, but depending what's out there). I have hunted high and low over the last couple weeks and have found empty shelves and full secondary prices. Finally decided that I'd give it a whirl in a few online bourbon raffles instead. Turned my $250 into three bottles: Michter's 10, Wild Turkey 12 yr, and Russell's Single Rickhouse CN-B.
Finding BTACs at reasonable prices is next to impossible, maybe one day that will change, but still great stuff to get (like you did) out there.
 
I had big dreams of taking my $250 fantasy winnings and splurging on one really nice bottle (ideally a GTS, but depending what's out there). I have hunted high and low over the last couple weeks and have found empty shelves and full secondary prices. Finally decided that I'd give it a whirl in a few online bourbon raffles instead. Turned my $250 into three bottles: Michter's 10, Wild Turkey 12 yr, and Russell's Single Rickhouse CN-B.
Finding BTACs at reasonable prices is next to impossible, maybe one day that will change, but still great stuff to get (like you did) out there.
yeah I knew it was a pipe dream, but it was partially fueled by a post I made upthread. Buddy of mine invited me on a bourbon hunt to a town ~45 min away where he'd had luck before, but I couldn't go. He scored a GTS and a THH for $199 each that day...all I had to do was hop in the dang car with him and I'd have gotten 40% of the BTAC collection in one day...
 
I had big dreams of taking my $250 fantasy winnings and splurging on one really nice bottle (ideally a GTS, but depending what's out there). I have hunted high and low over the last couple weeks and have found empty shelves and full secondary prices. Finally decided that I'd give it a whirl in a few online bourbon raffles instead. Turned my $250 into three bottles: Michter's 10, Wild Turkey 12 yr, and Russell's Single Rickhouse CN-B.
Finding BTACs at reasonable prices is next to impossible, maybe one day that will change, but still great stuff to get (like you did) out there.
yeah I knew it was a pipe dream, but it was partially fueled by a post I made upthread. Buddy of mine invited me on a bourbon hunt to a town ~45 min away where he'd had luck before, but I couldn't go. He scored a GTS and a THH for $199 each that day...all I had to do was hop in the dang car with him and I'd have gotten 40% of the BTAC collection in one day...
he did get some awesome prices on it! i'd be kicking myself also. Only BTACs I've gotten is through trading and finding lower ranking bottle to trade up with (2 Weller CYPBs for a GTS). Which is fine as long as I'm getting the lower ones at MSRP, again not easy.
 
Visited Maker's Mark last week and picked up a bottle of "The Heart Release." It's absolutely fantastic.

I'm not a huge fan of OG Maker's Mark. But most of the rest of their stuff has been very solid.
MM has a beautiful campus and the tour is pretty thorough. But man it seems like you are driving way out in the boonies to get there!!
 
Next stop in my whiskey ride is yet another return to a previous selection: Grey Wolf Solera Rye Whiskey ($27 from the distiller himself, 93 proof, 60% rye/40% malted barley)

First thoughts: This is one of the first ryes I ever tried (four long years ago), so I had no idea at the time what I had gotten into. My original notes about it read: better with a splash; too expensive. I paid $30 for a 375ml bottle, so I reasoned it was not worth $60 for a regular sized bottle; yet I never forgot there wasn't anything unpleasant about it. I've seen this bottle on the shelf at a couple of my local stores, and then last weekend, they had a booth at the Maryland Pet Expo at the Timonium Fair Grounds. It seems incongruous to find a liquor vendor at a pet expo, but they were one of 4-5.

Grey Wolf is a very small outfit located in St. Mary's, MD, way south and close to where the Patuxent River meets the Chesapeake Bay, but they find the time to set up booths at craft fairs and farmer's markets in the region. I have spoken to the guy (I geeked out to much talking whiskey with him to get his name, but I know he's the proprietor) that was at the booth before, as well as his wife in the past, and they're very approachable and passionate about the whiskey business. They have also recently released a bourbon, though it seems to share the same astringent first taste that I've gotten from several other local distilleries; must be the water.

Anyway, I was close to re-buying a bottle of their single-malt, which I highly recommend as a desert whiskey; they toast the barley so that it confers strong chocolate notes to the palate. Instead, I wanted to give their rye a second chance since I've become accustomed to rye over the last year.

I have no idea what 'solera aged' means, so I'll just relay what's on the label: It first begins in New Charred North American oak barrels. Successive maturation evolves in port wine casks then finishes in Appalachian white oak vats.

First sniff: The port appears subtly mixed in with the neutral-to-black tea nose typical of many ryes, and sweet.

First taste: The port comes through stronger, and the combines with the barley to bracket the rye notes. This is probably the same taste I got four years ago but was unfairly compariing to bourbon.

Second sniff (after adding 3 drops of water): the rye notes become more prominent, and it still has some sweetness to it.

Second taste: the water really helped the barley become more noticeable, and plays nice with the port and rye.

Knee-jerk thoughts: On the plus side: I paid $3 less than I did 4 years ago, and now that I know how rye differs from bourbon, I have a much more favorable opinion. I'm not the biggest fan of finished whiskies, not counting double-oaked or the now impossible to find Dewar's Ilegal, but this one is a fine balance because the port plays nicely with the other ingredients.

As whiskey enthusiasts begin looking at American Single Malt as the next big thing, I would encourage you/them to also consider the "Maryland" or "Pennsylvania" style ryes, where the mash bill is closer to 100% rye (IIRC, MGP's 95rye/5 barley mash has been mentioned as a popular choice, so i would consider that in the tradition of Maryland and/or Pennsylvania rye). Many of the legacy distillers simply flip the corn and rye ratio of their bourbon when making rye, so legally it's rye but has more in common with bourbon than the old-school rye the earliest Scot-Irish settlers made. I hope I don't sound snobby, as that's not my intent. I've enjoyed most of the 51% rye labels I've tried, so point is simply that while rye even at 'just' 51% is a different animal than bourbon, the even higher ryes of those mid-Atlantic states is even more different of an animal that should be held as distinct.

Anyway, it was worth giving this another try. :hophead:
 
Drove through a neighboring state Wednesday and Thursday traveling to a work meeting. Stopped at a few places along the way and picked up a Redwood Screaming Titan, a couple bottles of Buffalo Trace, and I found a store pick RY3 16 year Light Whiskey that's 143.8 proof. Picked that last one up solely because it's now my oldest and my hottest bottle all in one.
 
Drove through a neighboring state Wednesday and Thursday traveling to a work meeting. Stopped at a few places along the way and picked up a Redwood Screaming Titan, a couple bottles of Buffalo Trace, and I found a store pick RY3 16 year Light Whiskey that's 143.8 proof. Picked that last one up solely because it's now my oldest and my hottest bottle all in one.
Wow, that's hot!
 
I also love how it's mostly regular guys. They're not whiskey experts. They just are all good friends and like hanging out and drinking whiskey.

I'm sure there will be some past winners that will have the experts here thinking they don't know anything but for me, that's part of the fun. Decide for yourself what you like. Then drink what you like.
 
Just for the record and I know, nobody asked but I'd bathe in Bulleit Rye daily if I could. Love that stuff.
As a follow up, found Bulleit Rye 10 Year. Very smooth, incredibly easy to get over your ski's with this one because it just doesn't feel like you're drinking that much alcohol. This may or may not have happened this weekend.
Not sure I've had the 10 year rye but Bulleit 12 yr rye is very good and usually $50-55 when I see it. Wish it had ~10 more proof points to it, but for the price it's very tasty.
 
Peerless Double Oak Bourbon is pretty dang good.
Yes it is. Excellent. I hear the Peerless Double Oaked Rye is even better, but I haven't been able to get my hands on that one yet.
I've seen the Rye in the field a couple of times but it was a tad on the pricey side for me. I sprang for the Old Overholt 11 for 30 bucks less and it didn't disappoint.
Has the Overholt 114 made its way to your shelves? Definitely not going to be as good as Peerless, but for sub-$35 and 114 proof, I thought it was an interesting value selection.
 
Peerless Double Oak Bourbon is pretty dang good.
Yes it is. Excellent. I hear the Peerless Double Oaked Rye is even better, but I haven't been able to get my hands on that one yet.
I've seen the Rye in the field a couple of times but it was a tad on the pricey side for me. I sprang for the Old Overholt 11 for 30 bucks less and it didn't disappoint.
Has the Overholt 114 made its way to your shelves? Definitely not going to be as good as Peerless, but for sub-$35 and 114 proof, I thought it was an interesting value selection.
Haven't seen that one.
 
Picked up an Old Forester 1924 Batch 2 last Friday, and also snagged a Rock Hill Farms for the first time ever. RHF has been one of those unobtainum bottles in my area, just never see them at any price, even the museums around me don't ever have it. Not sure what MRSP has gone up to but I got it for 100 so I'm happy...
 
Picked up an Old Forester 1924 Batch 2 last Friday, and also snagged a Rock Hill Farms for the first time ever. RHF has been one of those unobtainum bottles in my area, just never see them at any price, even the museums around me don't ever have it. Not sure what MRSP has gone up to but I got it for 100 so I'm happy...
I've heard good things about both. I'm seeing a lot more 'allocated-ish' stuff on the shelves lately, so hopefully that means us regular folks can start to get our hands on them.

Heck, I'm even seeing Stagg (jr.) for purchase (VERY secondary price though, but it's a start). But previously harder to get stuff like ECBP, Bookers, and EH Taylor are everywhere now.
 

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