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Brady Quinn is greedy (1 Viewer)

MSULions

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First the talk about him holding out due to his feeling that he should have been a top 5 pick, and now this. Not that I liked him to begin with, but Quinn has officially taken the title of player I most want to see fail miserably.

Fans Upset Over Browns QB Autograph Signing

No Comment Yet From Radio Sponsor

NORTH OLMSTED, Ohio -- Controversy was swirling around Cleveland Browns quarterback Brady Quinn, and he hasn't even taken a snap yet, NewsChannel5 reported.

Quinn was at Great Northern Mall in North Olmsted Saturday afternoon signing autographs.

It cost at least $75 for a signed picture and up to $225 for other merchandise.

Several fans called NewsChannel5 saying they thought they could bring anything for the Browns QB to sign. But then they found out they had to buy either an autographed picture or previously signed merchandise. They said there was no advertising that autograph seekers would have to pay.

The station tried to reach mall officials and the local radio station which sponsored the event, but could not get any information.

http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/13731744/detail.html
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MSULions said:
First the talk about him holding out due to his feeling that he should have been a top 5 pick, and now this. Not that I liked him to begin with, but Quinn has officially taken the title of player I most want to see fail miserably.

Fans Upset Over Browns QB Autograph Signing

No Comment Yet From Radio Sponsor

NORTH OLMSTED, Ohio -- Controversy was swirling around Cleveland Browns quarterback Brady Quinn, and he hasn't even taken a snap yet, NewsChannel5 reported.

Quinn was at Great Northern Mall in North Olmsted Saturday afternoon signing autographs.

It cost at least $75 for a signed picture and up to $225 for other merchandise.

Several fans called NewsChannel5 saying they thought they could bring anything for the Browns QB to sign. But then they found out they had to buy either an autographed picture or previously signed merchandise. They said there was no advertising that autograph seekers would have to pay.

The station tried to reach mall officials and the local radio station which sponsored the event, but could not get any information.

http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/13731744/detail.html
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come on, he's got to feed his family just like Latrell Sprewell had to . . . give the guy a break . . .
 
Being on every TV show before the draft saying he wanted to be the top pick started pissing me off. Last year I liked him but don't much anymore.

He could be a good player but he's reminding me of a whiny Rick Mirer.

 
bcr8f said:
Being on every TV show before the draft saying he wanted to be the top pick started pissing me off. Last year I liked him but don't much anymore.He could be a good player but he's reminding me of a whiny Rick Mirer.
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Rick Mirer was a better QB :thumbup: Heath Shuler was a better QB ;) , well.....maybe not Heath Shuler, lol.
 
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I'm a lifelong ND fan, but have to shake my head at this.

About the only thing as bad as this in my mind is the fact that people are willing to pay money for anyone's autograph in the first place.

 
Quinn = :thumbup:

I've found myself becoming more and more of a Derek Anderson fan with all these hold out talks. I'm officially rooting for him to keep Quinn off the field for a LONG time now.

 
Any autograph signing at a mall is gonna be a pay for autograph deal. Quinn probably got a call from his agent that said hey I got you $20,000 dollars to sign autographs for a couple of hours. He hasn't signed a deal yet and 20k would be some great pocket money so he says sure. Now the mall or another 3rd party, sets a price for what they want to sell and what they want to charge. Quinn signed the deal, so even if he doesn't like the deal he gets his ### sued, if he walks away. I don't really fault him for that, but he better sign his contract and get camp or my attitude may change.

 
To me this sounds like the Event Sponsor screwed up, not Quinn. He probably had no idea who would be paying how much for what when he showed up.

 
Fans have made Brady and other players do this in a way. It must be weird to sign all these things for free then hear how some guy made 1000 bucks selling the stuff on Ebay an hour later. I can't imagine how I'd react if I were in their shoes.

There was a previous thread here in which someone had a great suggestion for solving this but I can't find it or recall what it was. It throws everything "off" though.

 
GregR said:
I'm a lifelong ND fan, but have to shake my head at this.About the only thing as bad as this in my mind is the fact that people are willing to pay money for anyone's autograph in the first place.
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12 years old kids will do that to you.
 
bcr8f said:
GregR said:
I'm a lifelong ND fan, but have to shake my head at this.About the only thing as bad as this in my mind is the fact that people are willing to pay money for anyone's autograph in the first place.
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12 years old kids will do that to you.
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You're so weak letting a kid run your life like that.I'll BRB gotta go give her a bottle or pacifier, might have to change her diaper, BRB
 
we should definitely rush to judgement and draw conclusions about this with regards to Quinn's character

 
chris1969 said:
Any autograph signing at a mall is gonna be a pay for autograph deal. Quinn probably got a call from his agent that said hey I got you $20,000 dollars to sign autographs for a couple of hours. He hasn't signed a deal yet and 20k would be some great pocket money so he says sure. Now the mall or another 3rd party, sets a price for what they want to sell and what they want to charge. Quinn signed the deal, so even if he doesn't like the deal he gets his ### sued, if he walks away. I don't really fault him for that, but he better sign his contract and get camp or my attitude may change.
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Please!!! Do you really beleive this? I guess he needs a new agent.
 
Good for him. If he can get it, fine. I will think badly of him when I hear about him turning some kid on the street down. Autographs are a big business, why should Quinn be any different than hundreds of baseball players?

 
I'd do it for sure if I was Brady. 95% of it would be going on Ebay anyway. Doesn't Bill Russell charge more than double that? (yes, I know Russell has almost as many rings as Quinn has years)

 
Bri said:
There was a previous thread here in which someone had a great suggestion for solving this but I can't find it or recall what it was. It throws everything "off" though.
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One solution: Sign only flat items (like posters, pictures, magazines, etc.) and personalize everything. Might be tougher to fetch much on eBay for something that reads: "To Skeeter, My No. 1 Fan, Best Wishes, Brady."
 
champ9598 said:
Bri said:
There was a previous thread here in which someone had a great suggestion for solving this but I can't find it or recall what it was. It throws everything "off" though.
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One solution: Sign only flat items (like posters, pictures, magazines, etc.) and personalize everything. Might be tougher to fetch much on eBay for something that reads: "To Skeeter, My No. 1 Fan, Best Wishes, Brady."
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Is he signing Patriots helmets?
 
Couch Potato autographs now on sale for a mere 5 bucks.

Obviously a real bargain comparatively.

And if I'm ever important or famous someday, you'll have a tremendous value.

What's 5 clams? You blow that at Starbucks!

Send check or money order to....

 
Many other athletes and celebrities charge at least this much for autographs. The problem is Quinn has done nothing on the pro level to be able to demand this much. This goes along with rookies in all sports signing million dollar contracts when they have yet to do anything in the pros.

At the same time, if someone is willing to pay that, I can't blame him.

 
Nothing to get wrapped up about here. Like one poster said... Quinn's agent charges the flat rate and the event charges the people who want the autograph. Quinn handled himself very well during the draft... but I don't he signs anything before the start of TC. This will be a very similar situation to Matt Lienart.

 
Just came across a story dealing with autographs, though not in football. Just amazes me that these things are worth so much money to some people.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-o...p&type=lgns

David Ortiz sued over memorabilia deal

July 20, 2007

NEW YORK (AP) -- A sports memorabilia company sued Boston Red Sox star David Ortiz for $1 million Friday, claiming he breached a contract by failing to autograph a required number of items and appear at "meet-and-greet" events.

Steiner Sports Marketing Inc. of New Rochelle, N.Y., said the company signed Ortiz to a contract to autograph 13,000 items, appear at public signing events, and to do these things exclusively for Steiner until Jan. 31, 2008.

"Ortiz has constantly remained substantially below the amount of memorabilia items required to be signed under the agreement," according to the lawsuit filed in Manhattan's state Supreme Court.

Steiner claims that Ortiz skipped several scheduled public appearances, and when he did show up, he didn't autograph the minimum amount of memorabilia required by the contract.

Ortiz also violated the exclusivity clause of their agreement by providing at least four other companies with autographed memorabilia and game-used items, diluting the value of items provided to Steiner, the suit claims.

The lawsuit asks for $1 million plus interest and an accounting of Ortiz' dealings with memorabilia companies in which he received money for autographs and used items.

Ortiz' agent, SFX Baseball Group LLC, did not immediately return a call for comment.
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Phurfur said:
chris1969 said:
Any autograph signing at a mall is gonna be a pay for autograph deal. Quinn probably got a call from his agent that said hey I got you $20,000 dollars to sign autographs for a couple of hours. He hasn't signed a deal yet and 20k would be some great pocket money so he says sure. Now the mall or another 3rd party, sets a price for what they want to sell and what they want to charge. Quinn signed the deal, so even if he doesn't like the deal he gets his ### sued, if he walks away. I don't really fault him for that, but he better sign his contract and get camp or my attitude may change.
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Please!!! Do you really beleive this? I guess he needs a new agent.
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Yeah...I believe it. I'm an avid card/memorabilia collector and know for certain that this is a likely scenario. A card shop owner/dealer might offer Quinn's agent a lump of money to come out and do a signing in hopes of raking in tons of cash by selling Cleveland Brown/Notre Dame mini helmets, Quinn rookie cards, NFL footballs, mini footballs, etc. Quinn more than likely had absolutely no say in what was being charged for the memorabilia. Yet he is made out to be the bad guy.I was at a card show back in 1998 that featured Peyton Manning and guess what...SAME BS SCENARIO! Are we gonna say what a money grubbing piece of crap Peyton is too? It was right after he was drafted by the Colts and he came to a show here in KC. I paid about $25 - $30 for the Colts mini helmet I bought and then I had to pay another lump of change on top of that to get Peyton to sign my helmet. And the price went UP according to what you wanted him to sign. This was also about 10 years ago so add in inflation and such and the prices that were being commanded in Cleveland is about right...actually a little on the low end! Trust me, it's NOT the player that sets the prices...it's the dealers!Quinn will learn. I'm sure he'll do plenty of charity stuff as well.
 
I thin k he should charge double the amount he is currently getting, even triple or quadruple. Hell charge whatever the market will bear.

This is a Capital Market System we live in. And he's welcome to charge whatever he'd like to kids, fans et. al.

You either:

1-Pay

2-Don't Pay

Simple and doesn't make him any more of a jerk then the Oil Companies that get $3+ per gallon for gas we were all buying at $1.50 24 months ago.

 
softball said:
I thin k he should charge double the amount he is currently getting, even triple or quadruple. Hell charge whatever the market will bear.This is a Capital Market System we live in. And he's welcome to charge whatever he'd like to kids, fans et. al. You either:1-Pay2-Don't PaySimple and doesn't make him any more of a jerk then the Oil Companies that get $3+ per gallon for gas we were all buying at $1.50 24 months ago.
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:goodposting:
 
MSULions said:
First the talk about him holding out due to his feeling that he should have been a top 5 pick, and now this. Not that I liked him to begin with, but Quinn has officially taken the title of player I most want to see fail miserably.

Fans Upset Over Browns QB Autograph Signing

No Comment Yet From Radio Sponsor

NORTH OLMSTED, Ohio -- Controversy was swirling around Cleveland Browns quarterback Brady Quinn, and he hasn't even taken a snap yet, NewsChannel5 reported.

Quinn was at Great Northern Mall in North Olmsted Saturday afternoon signing autographs.

It cost at least $75 for a signed picture and up to $225 for other merchandise.

Several fans called NewsChannel5 saying they thought they could bring anything for the Browns QB to sign. But then they found out they had to buy either an autographed picture or previously signed merchandise. They said there was no advertising that autograph seekers would have to pay.

The station tried to reach mall officials and the local radio station which sponsored the event, but could not get any information.

http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/13731744/detail.html
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I have never understood someone willing to pay for another person autograph.
 
There are mixed (and strong) feelings on this issue. I think the main problem I have is...from what I understand, Quinn would ONLY sign items paid for at the show and not items brought by fans from home. So, if I just paid $200+ for my new Quinn authentic and brought it to get his sig on it, no dice. :mellow:

 
TitanBlitz said:
There are mixed (and strong) feelings on this issue. I think the main problem I have is...from what I understand, Quinn would ONLY sign items paid for at the show and not items brought by fans from home. So, if I just paid $200+ for my new Quinn authentic and brought it to get his sig on it, no dice. :shrug:
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What I heard was that he was expecting to sign his number 10 jersey, but got annoyed that fans kept bringing in clipboards for him to sign.
 
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TitanBlitz said:
There are mixed (and strong) feelings on this issue. I think the main problem I have is...from what I understand, Quinn would ONLY sign items paid for at the show and not items brought by fans from home. So, if I just paid $200+ for my new Quinn authentic and brought it to get his sig on it, no dice. :loco:
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I think a little perspective on what is known and what isn't is in order too though.I mean, here's a completely reasonable scenario. Quinn is hired to come sign only the show's memorabilia. I don't have a problem with that, or charging whatever they can get if it's a show. What would be at the heart of the issue is, did the advertising lead one to believe you could walk in with your jersey to get it signed, or that he was just there to sign new memorabilia from the show? I don't think there is any reason to believe Quinn would control the advertising for it, so if that was the case then I wouldn't blame him, I'd blame the company running things. (And the 'right thing' for Quinn to do if that was the case, would be to make sure the company doesn't let it happen again, or not work with them again.)

Now if it was just the mall brought him in, and Quinn's people made the unilateral decision to only sell his own stuff and didn't let the mall know that so they could advertise appropriately, yeah, I would think less of Quinn, and/or those he trusted to handle his business dealings.

I don't know that we can really say which is the case though, can we? Both seem reasonable ways it could have happened.

 
Warpig said:
Phurfur said:
chris1969 said:
Any autograph signing at a mall is gonna be a pay for autograph deal. Quinn probably got a call from his agent that said hey I got you $20,000 dollars to sign autographs for a couple of hours. He hasn't signed a deal yet and 20k would be some great pocket money so he says sure. Now the mall or another 3rd party, sets a price for what they want to sell and what they want to charge. Quinn signed the deal, so even if he doesn't like the deal he gets his ### sued, if he walks away. I don't really fault him for that, but he better sign his contract and get camp or my attitude may change.
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Please!!! Do you really beleive this? I guess he needs a new agent.
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Yeah...I believe it. I'm an avid card/memorabilia collector and know for certain that this is a likely scenario. A card shop owner/dealer might offer Quinn's agent a lump of money to come out and do a signing in hopes of raking in tons of cash by selling Cleveland Brown/Notre Dame mini helmets, Quinn rookie cards, NFL footballs, mini footballs, etc. Quinn more than likely had absolutely no say in what was being charged for the memorabilia. Yet he is made out to be the bad guy.I was at a card show back in 1998 that featured Peyton Manning and guess what...SAME BS SCENARIO! Are we gonna say what a money grubbing piece of crap Peyton is too?

It was right after he was drafted by the Colts and he came to a show here in KC. I paid about $25 - $30 for the Colts mini helmet I bought and then I had to pay another lump of change on top of that to get Peyton to sign my helmet. And the price went UP according to what you wanted him to sign.

This was also about 10 years ago so add in inflation and such and the prices that were being commanded in Cleveland is about right...actually a little on the low end!

Trust me, it's NOT the player that sets the prices...it's the dealers!

Quinn will learn. I'm sure he'll do plenty of charity stuff as well.
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Yes he is the biggest!!!!!
 
he's going to need the extra $ when he's out of football and coaching HS football in 5 years

 
pmcdade said:
To me this sounds like the Event Sponsor screwed up, not Quinn. He probably had no idea who would be paying how much for what when he showed up.
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Of course this is the sane response, but let's not let it get in the way of a good rant. This is the internet after all. You can say whatever ignorant thing strikes your fancy without fear of being held accountable. Quinn's fault? :rolleyes:
 
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Seriously? I'm not a fan of the holdout situation, but how can you hold him responsible for event advertising?

"They said there was no advertising that autograph seekers would have to pay."

 
GregR said:
I'm a lifelong ND fan, but have to shake my head at this.About the only thing as bad as this in my mind is the fact that people are willing to pay money for anyone's autograph in the first place.
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That's all I got out of that post too. Not that I care but I doubt young players like quin even participate in the merchandising or marketing decisions. You might argue that he could've stepped in but when you're that young and new to this... being overwhelmed by the whirwind of people (agents, pr, sponsors, etc) you probably just nod and go along as if whatever they're saying is par for the course. He's just a kid. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being
 
you have bigger fish to fry: OJ Simpson charges $$ for autographs. lets put things in perspective.

go after him , instead of Quinn.. :headbang:

Quinn grew up in Ohio. Its been a dream of his to play for Cleveland. he's one of their own. they love him out there..

a big part of pro sports, is autograph signings..Roger Clemens will go into the hall of fame as a Yankee, if they let him. He's sure to make a heck of a lot more money signing autographs as a Yankee, than if he had gone in as ,say, a Houston Astro or Toronto Blue Jay..

Even Bobby Czyz made money signing autographs... :lmao:

 
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Even as a :shrug: fan and confirmed ND-hater, I have to :shrug: at the outrage over this.

Lay off Quinn; AFC defenses will be all over him soon enough.

 
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Tom Servo said:
Even as a :goodposting: fan and confirmed ND-hater, I have to :) at the outrage over this. Lay off Quinn; AFC defenses will be all over him soon enough.
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No problem with Quinn making bank.If someone wants to lay it down for the most over-hyped, under talented media creation of this year's draft cool. (Phil Savage ;) )That scribble has to be worth something, right?
 
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chris1969 said:
Any autograph signing at a mall is gonna be a pay for autograph deal. Quinn probably got a call from his agent that said hey I got you $20,000 dollars to sign autographs for a couple of hours. He hasn't signed a deal yet and 20k would be some great pocket money so he says sure. Now the mall or another 3rd party, sets a price for what they want to sell and what they want to charge. Quinn signed the deal, so even if he doesn't like the deal he gets his ### sued, if he walks away. I don't really fault him for that, but he better sign his contract and get camp or my attitude may change.
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This is how the autograph signings work. Brady has nothing to do with what is charged.
 
GregR said:
I'm a lifelong ND fan, but have to shake my head at this.About the only thing as bad as this in my mind is the fact that people are willing to pay money for anyone's autograph in the first place.
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This says it all and no one has been able to answer this.
 
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