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Brady Quinn to ... [where?] (1 Viewer)

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Rotoworld suggests a trade possibility. Makes a lot of sense to me since he's not fitting in with Mangini in Cleveland, and Cleveland could use some help in other areas. What destination makes sense?

Oakland seems a logical choice -- maybe too logical because that might be seen as an implicit admission that Jamarcus Russell is failing badly.

Buffalo is possible, but Quinn doesn't seem to offer much that Edwards doesn't already have, and Buffalo's biggest problems are not QB-related.

Carolina might make sense, but management seems perhaps too loyal to old standby players (like Delhomme) to bring in a replacement.

KC already has too many long-shot QBs on the roster.

StL? SF? Washington? Tennessee? All of those could stand to take a chance on a still-young but slightly damaged QB prospect.

 
As a dynasty owner, I'd love for him to get a shot somewhere else. Just not in Buffalo or Washington.

I'd actually like to see him get traded to Seattle to sit and learn behind Hasselbeck a year or 2.

 
Al Davis is an idiot, but he also wants his QB to have a rocket arm.

If you think Quinn is that guy you don't watch football.

Washington makes the most sense. Dan Snyder hates his QB's and draft picks, Mangini loves Ratliff and draft picks.

 
Jacksonville would make some sense. Garrard is hot and cold at best and McCown isn't much more than a stop gap reserve at this point. Quinn is a guy a that several people in the organization wanted to draft a few years ago and they may still feel that he can develop.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
who would trade anything for him?
:no: At this point who would give up more than a 6th or 7th round pick for Brady Quinn? And if that is all you're getting then why trade him if you're Cleveland?
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
who would trade anything for him?
Pretty much no one.Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez have shown that you either got it or you don't right out of the gate. Quinn has had shots and done nothing with them.
 
There are plenty of teams that would be interested in Quinn as a reclamation project. But there's no way he starts for anyone but Cleveland in 2009.

 
Lab said:
Rotoworld suggests a trade possibility. Makes a lot of sense to me since he's not fitting in with Mangini in Cleveland, and Cleveland could use some help in other areas. What destination makes sense? Oakland seems a logical choice -- maybe too logical because that might be seen as an implicit admission that Jamarcus Russell is failing badly. Buffalo is possible, but Quinn doesn't seem to offer much that Edwards doesn't already have, and Buffalo's biggest problems are not QB-related. Carolina might make sense, but management seems perhaps too loyal to old standby players (like Delhomme) to bring in a replacement. KC already has too many long-shot QBs on the roster. StL? SF? Washington? Tennessee? All of those could stand to take a chance on a still-young but slightly damaged QB prospect.
I was all set to say the Panthers, but then you mentioned Tennessee. I never really thought of them, but that would be an excellent fit. All they really want there is a guy with some accuracy who can move the chains. With a more talented supporting cast, perhaps Quinn could be that guy. As for compensation, I'd think a 3rd rounder and a late pick should get it done. Maybe Cleveland would have interest in Scaife or LenDale, although they'd probably have to throw a pick in the Titans direction for White.
 
I could see Green Bay. He's AJ Hawk's brother in law. He'd be able to relax for about 2 years and be a backup, which is what he should be. They won't give much to get him though.

 
Cleveland won with 2 of 17 for 23 yards passing (and a pick)....obviously, Quinn is expendable now.

 
Peyton Manning wasnt great his first year of starting, he was on an awful team, like Cleveland is now. Young QB success is partially predicted by the state of his team, Ben was 14-0 as a starter his rookie year, but the Steelers we built to win, Sanchez is on a solid team, Flacco stepped into a team with a great defense, and Ryan had Turner, White, a good OL. None of those guys had/will have great stats their first year.

What about St Lou? What about a good team with a good QB with no backup? Who is the backup in NE?

I think the team that would trade for him would be a team afraid(cheap) to spend millions on a first round QB next year, McCoy, Bradford, Tebow, etc...

 
I think Tenn or Carolina are the best fits for his game. He can be a good QB, but will never be a good Fantasy QB. I've seen him in Cleveland now and watched countless TD drops from Braylon and Winslow last year and we all know that Braylon has already killed several drives for the Browns this year. He is a game manager and needs the supporting cast like a strong running game to be effective. He has nothing in Cleveland. Now, who would give anything worth cleveland getting rid of him is another question, but Mangini loves picks and Quinn wasn't one of his so no ties. Could be a player involved or something...

 
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Needs to play in a warm weather or dome heavy division. StL would be an excellent fit, as would CAR and JAX.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
who would trade anything for him?
Pretty much no one.Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez have shown that you either got it or you don't right out of the gate. Quinn has had shots and done nothing with them.
plenty of QBs have struggled out of the gate. some even got cut - or have we already forgotten the kurt warner story?
 
IF all he costs is a 6th then I hope the Panthers get him, that said there is no way the Browns let him go for that low a pick. Maybe a 4rth maybe.

 
Tennessee, St. Louis, Carolina, and Jacksonville all make sense for Quinn. I would think that at least one of those teams would be willing to part with a 4th or 5ht round pick.

How would his salary be handled?

 
Wadsworth said:
Jacksonville would make some sense. Garrard is hot and cold at best and McCown isn't much more than a stop gap reserve at this point. Quinn is a guy a that several people in the organization wanted to draft a few years ago and they may still feel that he can develop.
Logically this would make the most sense, but Del Rio is on the hot seat and bringing in a new QB could cause issues this season and hasten his departure.There are four or five teams where Quinn would be an upgrade, the problem is he'd have to learn a new system and get timing with players.Green Bay makes sense, since Rogers is going to get injured playing behind that line.
 
Why would the Browns trade him? He's a cheap back up with upside. I'm aware of Ratliff, but this is also a team that was forced to pick up and start Bruce Gradkowski last year. Unless someone overpaid, a trade would be senseless.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
who would trade anything for him?
Pretty much no one.Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez have shown that you either got it or you don't right out of the gate. Quinn has had shots and done nothing with them.
plenty of QBs have struggled out of the gate. some even got cut - or have we already forgotten the kurt warner story?
That was a bit different. Warner didn't really "struggle" out of the gate because he never got an opportunity to play. He had 300 yards and 3 TDs in his very first NFL start and never looked back.But there have been many, many players who played, struggled, got cut......and then found success elsewhere. Rich Gannon comes to mind.
 
MAC_32 said:
Al Davis is an idiot, but he also wants his QB to have a rocket arm.If you think Quinn is that guy you don't watch football.
It's possible to watch football and not watch Notre Dame or the Browns. In fact, it's recommended.
 
Steve Young is another qb that struggled and eventually turned it around.
John Elway's first 4 seasons:1986 Denver Broncos 16 -- 280 504 55.6 3,485 6.9 19 13 32 233 79.0 52 257 4.9 1 -- --1985 Denver Broncos 16 -- 327 605 54.0 3,891 6.4 22 23 38 307 70.2 51 253 5.0 0 -- --1984 Denver Broncos 15 -- 214 380 56.3 2,598 6.8 18 15 24 158 76.8 56 237 4.2 1 -- --1983 Denver Broncos 11 -- 123 259 47.5 1,663 6.4 7 14 28 218 54.9 28 146 5.2 1 -- --
 
Quinn did get dealt a pretty tough hand of cards playing for a bad Browns team, with Edwards dropping passes and Jamal Lewis going nowhere, and against three pretty serious defenses to start the season (MN, Denver, Baltimore). Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Quinn is a real prize, but I definitely could see some OCs thinking there might be some untapped starter potential there, before simply tossing him in the backup QB trash heap.

I mentioned Oakland because they so desperately need a QB out there, but you're right that Quinn is not the right QB for that team. (Heck, DA might not be a bad choice for Oakland since he'd be absolutely fearless about tossing long balls for DHB to chase.) I vote for Tennessee. Heck, they could just swap Quinn for VY and call it a day!

 
Lab said:
Rotoworld suggests a trade possibility. Makes a lot of sense to me since he's not fitting in with Mangini in Cleveland, and Cleveland could use some help in other areas. What destination makes sense? Oakland seems a logical choice -- maybe too logical because that might be seen as an implicit admission that Jamarcus Russell is failing badly. Buffalo is possible, but Quinn doesn't seem to offer much that Edwards doesn't already have, and Buffalo's biggest problems are not QB-related. Carolina might make sense, but management seems perhaps too loyal to old standby players (like Delhomme) to bring in a replacement. KC already has too many long-shot QBs on the roster. StL? SF? Washington? Tennessee? All of those could stand to take a chance on a still-young but slightly damaged QB prospect.
you are also looking at a draft year deep in QB's. If I am the GM of the Raiders or the Rams and it is looking like a lost cause, do I dump a player or draft pick to get another reasonably expensive QB who is not gonna get us to the promised land, or do I take my lumps and get a shot at the best QB in a draft known to be deep at QB?I'm thinking the latter.the titans may be another matter as they have the talent to turn it around. Ditto for Carolina. Maybe you put some pressure on Delhomme by bringing someone in.tough to say, but I'm thinking there may not be a lot of buyers out there.
 
What about Dallas? I'm a big Romo fan, but I have to question if he is the longterm QB in D-Town. I'm not sure how many more 1 and out playoffs Jerry Jones is going to put up with. Stephen McGee has looked good in mini/training camp/pre-season, but I'm not sold. Why not let Quinn hold a clipboard next to Jason Garrett and learn behind Tony Romo?

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
who would trade anything for him?
Pretty much no one.Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez have shown that you either got it or you don't right out of the gate. Quinn has had shots and done nothing with them.
plenty of QBs have struggled out of the gate. some even got cut - or have we already forgotten the kurt warner story?
That was a bit different. Warner didn't really "struggle" out of the gate because he never got an opportunity to play. He had 300 yards and 3 TDs in his very first NFL start and never looked back.But there have been many, many players who played, struggled, got cut......and then found success elsewhere. Rich Gannon comes to mind.
Steve Young, Rich Gannon, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Dan Fouts...
 
St. Louis makes a ton of sense. A team that would otherwise use their top draft pick on a QB next year, Brady Quinn potentially fills that same void and the pick can be used to bolster the line.

 
Coaching is a gigantic part of football, especially at the QB position. In my opinion, both Quinn and Russell can be saved. Put them on a team with a strong starter and good coaching, then let them grow on the bench. I'd wait until the price came down, but I'd love to see either in NO sitting and learning behind Drew Brees.

 

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