Brady vs Lt. Point Totals from last year. (1 Viewer)

[twbillingsley]

I am wondering what everyone's points difference are between Qb's and Rb's. The league I am in is heavy to Qb's. It seems to heavy. Please tell me if I am wrong. The break down from last year are as follows.

Brady 532

Romo 410

Peyton 377

Brees 361

Farve 348

LT 243

Westbrook 213

Peterson 186

Adai 182

Portis 171

Moss 249

Owens 185

B Edwards 180

I am wondering what the difference is from so your leagues. Is there this big of a difference?

If it is how does it affect the rankings for a draft?

 

[sirfumblesalot]

I am wondering what everyone's points difference are between Qb's and Rb's. The league I am in is heavy to Qb's. It seems to heavy. Please tell me if I am wrong. The break down from last year are as follows.Brady 532 Romo 410Peyton 377Brees 361Farve 348LT 243Westbrook 213Peterson 186Adai 182Portis 171Moss 249Owens 185B Edwards 180I am wondering what the difference is from so your leagues. Is there this big of a difference?If it is how does it affect the rankings for a draft?

We had similar results in one of my leagues. 8 of the top 10 scorers were QBs. I know last season was a little down for RBs in general but I suggested to our commissioner that we lower passing TDs from 5 to 4 pts.If the scoring doesn't change I will be taking a QB in the 1st or 2nd round (3 player keeper and I am keeping 3 RBs).

 

[twbillingsley]

Our top 14 scores are Qb's.

 

[Sweet Love]

I am wondering what everyone's points difference are between Qb's and Rb's. The league I am in is heavy to Qb's. It seems to heavy. Please tell me if I am wrong. The break down from last year are as follows.Brady 532 Romo 410Peyton 377Brees 361Farve 348LT 243Westbrook 213Peterson 186Adai 182Portis 171Moss 249Owens 185B Edwards 180I am wondering what the difference is from so your leagues. Is there this big of a difference?If it is how does it affect the rankings for a draft?

So, there was a 190 point difference between QB1 and QB 5 and only a 70 point difference between RB1 and RB5...I would definintely go early on QB if the scoring stays the same.

 

[Novice2]

1 Brady, Tom NEP QB 370.10

3 Romo, Tony DAL QB 277.10

4 Manning, Peyton IND QB 254.65

5 Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 251.36

11 Anderson, Derek CLE QB 224.50

6 Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 246.89

8 Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 237.91

23 Addai, Joseph IND RB 192.05

29 Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 178.31

30 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 177.86

2 Moss, Randy NEP WR 287.65

7 Owens, Terrell DAL WR 239.00

10 Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR 226.35

12 Edwards, Braylon CLE WR 224.10

14 Wayne, Reggie IND WR 219.35

You have points per completion/bonus points for 250 Yrd games?

 

[Sinrman]

Hate to knock someone else's league, but man that is waaaay too heavy in favor of QBs. If you don't have a top QB, you're going to be left behind it seems.

 

[sholditch]

2 things of note

Brady was clearly the no. 1 player in the league last year by points of separation from his closest and baseline competition

He is more unlikely to repeat last season than LT

 

[puckalicious]

Maybe you can include your scoring system details so we understand WHY the QB scoring is so high. In my leagues all TD's are 6pts yet our scoring was higher for RB's and lower for QB's than what you posted. Something like Brady=490 and LT2=300 IIRC.

 

[BigRed]

So, there was a 190 point difference between QB1 and QB 5 and only a 70 point difference between RB1 and RB5...I would definintely go early on QB if the scoring stays the same.

Yes, because someone is likely to throw about 50 TDs again. ours was similar but closer gap due to PPR and we give 6 pts all TDs. I'm big on the VBD thing, but it's basic premise of focusing on the gaps between players within a position vs comparing across positions makes sense and is being ignored here. I thought this was VBD Groupie Land......?Anyway I suggest adding PPR.

 

[code]

Last year's results were unusual. Make sure you look back at a few years worth of stats/scoring history before you're convinced that this trend will continue.

Here's the last three years in our scoring system.

2007

1. Brady, Tom NEP QB 346.13

2. Romo, Tony DAL QB 280.31

5. Manning, Peyton IND QB 257.16

7. Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 243.88

4. Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 263.82

6. Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 249.69

14. Addai, Joseph IND RB 206.42 17.04

18. Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 193.87

3. Moss, Randy NEP WR 269.87

10. Owens, Terrell DAL WR 226.17

13. Edwards, Braylon CLE WR 212.98

15. Wayne, Reggie IND WR 205.12

2006

2. Manning, Peyton IND QB 261.82

5. Brees, Drew NOS QB 235.07

7. Bulger, Marc STL QB 218.02

8. Vick, Michael ATL QB 217.46

1. Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 370.19

3. Jackson, Steven STL RB 259.54

4. Johnson, Larry KCC RB 251.91

6. Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 228.58

12. Harrison, Marvin IND WR 196.14

15. Owens, Terrell DAL WR 187.36

18. Wayne, Reggie IND WR 177.66

21. Holt, Torry STL WR 176.20

2005

3. Palmer, Carson CIN QB 248.01

6. Brady, Tom NEP QB 230.58

8. Manning, Peyton IND QB 226.75

10. Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB 210.93

1. Alexander, Shaun SEA RB 291.18

2. Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 267.44

4. Johnson, Larry KCC RB 247.21

5. Barber, Tiki NYG RB 232.78

9. Smith, Steve CAR WR 217.68

15. Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 194.82

16. Johnson, Chad CIN WR 193.11

18. Holt, Torry STL WR 190.08

 

[twbillingsley]

Sorry I should have added the Scoring system.

6pts all Td's

1pt 25yd passing

2pt at 200yds

2pts at 300yds

-1 int

1pt for 15yd rushing and receiving

2pt for 100yd rushing and receiving

I have voiced my opinion that the Qb shouldnt get 2pt's for 200yds but the guys want to leave it so I just need to adjust my player list.

 

[Buffaloes]

Sorry I should have added the Scoring system.6pts all Td's1pt 25yd passing2pt at 200yds2pts at 300yds-1 int1pt for 15yd rushing and receiving2pt for 100yd rushing and receivingI have voiced my opinion that the Qb shouldnt get 2pt's for 200yds but the guys want to leave it so I just need to adjust my player list.

Why don't you propose 1 pt 10 yards rushing/receiving and 1 ppr or at least .5 ppr?Those 2 tweaks might even things out a bitWhat I don't understand is the 2 points for 200 yards and then a another 2 point bonus for 300 yards...seems strange to bonus at 200 and 300 yards

 

[DropKick]

I am wondering what everyone's points difference are between Qb's and Rb's. The league I am in is heavy to Qb's. It seems to heavy. Please tell me if I am wrong. The break down from last year are as follows.Brady 532 Romo 410Peyton 377Brees 361Farve 348LT 243Westbrook 213Peterson 186Adai 182Portis 171Moss 249Owens 185B Edwards 180I am wondering what the difference is from so your leagues. Is there this big of a difference?If it is how does it affect the rankings for a draft?

When your top QB (Brady) scores about 10% more than your top RB (LT) and top WR (Moss) COMBINED, I think it is safe to say the system favors QBs and the top QBs should go first.That being said, I don't like your system. Sounds like you league is adverse to the smallest change, but I would go with 1 pt per 10 yards rushing/receiving; add a 2 pt tier for 150 yards rush/receive and maybe introduce 1 PPR to balance things out somewhat.

 

[radballs]

If nothing's changing anyway, just go with whatever it is and adjust your draft list accordingly. In that league, obviously Brady and Manning should be the first two picks. Just be flexible with whatever the scoring system is.

 

[puckalicious]

If nothing's changing anyway, just go with whatever it is and adjust your draft list accordingly. In that league, obviously Brady and Manning Romo should be the first two picks. Just be flexible with whatever the scoring system is.

Manning 3rd.

 

[Gottabesweet]

My top 25 here, points are at the very end.

QB's were 13 of 25 spots

7 of the first 10

Player Team Att Cmp Yd TD Int Rate Att Yd Avg TD Targt Recpt Yd Avg TD FL FPTS

Brady, Tom QB NE Free Agent 578 398 4806 50 8 117.2 37 98 2.6 2 0 0 0 0.0 0 4 496.0

Moss, Randy WR NE Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 159 98 1493 15.2 23 0 380.0

Romo, Tony QB DAL Free Agent 520 335 4211 36 19 97.4 29 131 4.5 2 0 0 0 0.0 0 2 369.0

Westbrook, Brian RB PHI Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 278 1333 4.8 7 120 90 771 8.6 5 1 357.0

Manning, Peyton QB IND Free Agent 515 337 4040 31 14 98.0 20 -5 -0.2 3 0 0 0 0.0 0 1 352.0

Tomlinson, LaDainian RB SD Free Agent 1 1 17 1 0 158.3 315 1474 4.7 15 86 60 475 7.9 3 0 350.0

Brees, Drew QB NO Free Agent 655 443 4428 28 18 89.4 24 52 2.2 1 2 2 10 5.0 0 4 334.0

Roethlisberger, Ben QB PIT Free Agent 405 265 3158 32 11 104.1 35 204 5.8 2 0 0 0 0.0 0 3 323.0

Anderson, Derek QB CLE Free Agent 527 298 3787 29 19 82.5 31 76 2.5 3 0 0 0 0.0 0 2 319.0

Favre, Brett QB GB Free Agent 535 356 4157 28 15 95.7 29 12 0.4 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 3 313.0

Wayne, Reggie WR IND Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1 4 4.0 0 156 104 1510 14.5 10 3 308.0

Edwards, Braylon WR CLE Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 154 80 1289 16.1 16 2 304.0

Hasselbeck, Matt QB SEA Free Agent 562 352 3966 28 12 91.4 39 97 2.5 0 1 0 0 0.0 0 5 300.0

Owens, Terrell WR DAL Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1 5 5.0 0 143 81 1355 16.7 15 0 299.0

Palmer, Carson QB CIN Free Agent 575 373 4131 26 20 86.7 24 10 0.4 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 1 296.0

Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR CIN Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 5 14 2.8 0 169 112 1143 10.2 12 1 296.0

Fitzgerald, Larry WR ARI Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 168 101 1412 14.0 10 3 289.0

Welker, Wes WR NE Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 4 34 8.5 0 145 112 1175 10.5 8 0 288.0

Johnson, Chad WR CIN Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 6 47 7.8 0 161 93 1440 15.5 8 1 285.0

Warner, Kurt QB ARI Free Agent 452 282 3409 27 17 89.7 17 15 0.9 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 6 279.0

Colston, Marques WR NO Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 143 98 1202 12.3 11 1 276.0

Marshall, Brandon WR DEN Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 5 57 11.4 0 170 102 1325 13.0 7 1 272.0

Portis, Clinton RB WAS Free Agent 1 1 15 1 0 158.3 325 1262 3.9 11 60 47 389 8.3 0 5 263.0

Addai, Joseph RB IND Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 261 1072 4.1 12 49 41 364 8.9 3 0 261.0

Peterson, Adrian RB MIN Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 238 1341 5.6 12 28 19 268 14.1 1 3 257.0

Cutler, Jay QB DEN Free Agent 467 297 3497 20 14 88.1 44 205 4.7 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 4 256.0

Manning, Eli QB NYG Free Agent 528 297 3336 23 20 74.0 30 69 2.3 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 7 252.0

McNabb, Donovan QB PHI Free Agent 473 291 3324 19 7 89.9 50 236 4.7 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 5 251.0

Witten, Jason TE DAL Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 142 96 1145 11.9 7 1 250.0

Holt, Torry WR STL Free Agent 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 148 93 1189 12.8 7 1 249.0

 

[super sleeper]

Sorry I should have added the Scoring system.6pts all Td's1pt 25yd passing2pt at 200yds2pts at 300yds-1 int1pt for 15yd rushing and receiving2pt for 100yd rushing and receivingI have voiced my opinion that the Qb shouldnt get 2pt's for 200yds but the guys want to leave it so I just need to adjust my player list.

What stands out as off base with your scoring is that if a QB has a typical "good" game by a QB of 300 yards passing, that would score 16 pts. Yet a good game of 100 yards rushing or receiving only scores 8 or 9 points. That's a huge discrepancy. A 300 yard passing game, and 100 yards rushing or receiving games should all score approximately the same amount. I would suggest you make it 1 pt. for 50 yards passing and eliminate the bonus at 200 yards. That makes a 300 yard game equal to a 105 yard game by your scoring.